Update 6 May 2024: it looks as if Mike has tried to scrub his nootropics video off the internet (the link no longer works), and hasn’t made any kind of statement about removing it. He just swept it under the rug. Too bad for Mike, the internet never forgets. Enjoy the show 🤣
@the_chaotic_neuron if you’re out there, I saved your comment at the 27:33 mark. Shame you put in all that effort to fact check Mike’s video only for him to erase your good work. I got you though buddy :)
Thanks for preserving this critical blunder from Mike. It was weird how little people talked about it outside the video and pretty hilarious when it was quietly swept under rug. I am still extremely curious where the hell they found that guy or why they greenlit the video after presumably editing and rewatching it.
I actually work in the supplement industry and 95% of nootropics are straight up marketing. Often times the clinical studies used as support are cherry picked and not always repeatable, which is one of the main principles of the scientific method. The second is that there’s this weird trend in the industry to start lumping in substances that help with relaxation as “cognitive performance “ which is deceitful. In short there’s thousands of extracts and shit out there that haven’t been studied extensively enough to say “this boosts brain performance by X amount”. Most of the research centers around minerals and letter vitamins but that’s not as sexy as “Nootropics “ lol. Not to mention all the quality issues that come into play during the manufacturing of said supplements ( many of these facilities make multiple products for multiple companies) and the industry in general is not heavily regulated because it’s seen as adjacent to pharmaceuticals, which to be fair might be more regulated, but the FDA is too over worked to really stop bad companies. Also I just checked like 6 different times and can’t find this video anywhere. Dr.Mike must’ve removed it after getting ass-blasted by his comment section
It's funny how they make a video about smoking pot and eating pot cookies using one of its constituents as a cover. "I just took a large dose of THC edibles" is just Mike's way of saying "I just ate a ton of pot brownies!"
Mike is awesome, but his nootropics video SUCKED SUCKED SUCKED. I get people being angry at the guy in these comments who haven’t see his other material, but his videos are generally extremely good. He’s a PhD in sports physiology, but as with any expert, if you talk outside your realm of expertise you’re bound to eventually make a fool out of yourself. The weird thing is that he somehow didn’t even know how to find a good expert on the topic to bring on.
@@Solomon_Nelson Haha, that’s me. I showed up about 5 times in your video. As you could see, I was extremely disappointed with Dr. Mike when he posted this- and I went a little crazy in the comment section of his video. I’m so glad he took the video down- it would be better if he also made a statement for the sake of those who were mislead, but I’ll take what I can get. I wonder if you’re the reason he took it down! Good work.
I wonder if this was a paid video or something? It feels so out of place. Most of Dr. Mike's videos actually quote/have science backing and good solid advice. So it is surprising to me why he published this. He had to be aware of this bs. Right?
I wanted to become an IFBB Pro so I’ve listened to the stuff Dr Mike has done with Nick Shaw or Jared Feather. Also listened to that squeaky voice Greg fella, but Dr Mike on his own just don’t cut it apart from entertainment value!
@@Solomon_Nelson It's a goldmine of Mike doing "I can relate to The Bl@cks". Beastmode even gets in a few "I mean, you a J@w, so you know what's up" of his own.
@@Solomon_Nelson Did you have time to check it out? The funniest part is Beastmode's surprise that Mike - being Jewish - does not know the intricacies of esoteric Kabbalistic gematria math.
I swear this is not the channel I subbed to😭😭. Bro ate a 400mg nerds rope with his homie, spoke nonsense for half an hour. Good god almighty bro has gone round the twist. Is this really what it’s been the whole time?
I was already getting tired of Mike's tired jokes finding their way into every video (not allowed around playgrounds, my parole officer says I'm not allowed to do that, women never liked me growing up, women don't like me, anything gay sex related), but this dumpster fire of a video sealed the deal to unsubscribe from the channel.
Oh wow, a lot very insecure people talking about having muscle like it’s a bad thing in these comments. Mike is probably the leading source when it comes to exercise physiology on RU-vid, that’s what he’s known for, he’s open about his gear use and he’s a BJJ brown belt. He never talks about nootropics so this is a one off. Also who tf is this guy?
You’re right. The nootropics video was terrible, but almost all of his other content is gold. People in these comments don’t know that though, so they just jump to “roid head=dumb.” I don’t entirely blame them, if this was the only thing I saw from Dr. Mike I would probably think the same thing to some extent.b
Not true at all. We here are simply asking for scientific evidence and research in regards to the “nootropics” recommendations in this video. For comical relief we joke on Mike being a roid-head which by your own admission he is. I also work in the supplement industry so proliferating bullshit claims and “bro-science” is what causing a lot of issues currently. I’m not taking away Mike’s insights into lifting , specifically controlled eccentric movements to increase muscle stimulation. However, just because a channel offers a counter to your favorite RU-vidr doesn’t mean it’s inherently flawed just because it critiques this terrible video
The CBD part is pretty simple, I don't know how you are confused about this. CBD is supposed increase sleep quality. At the moment, it looks really promising. Assuming it improves sleep quality>improves cognition. I'm not going to cite shit on a youtube comment because you would claim I'm cherry picking. Look it up for yourself.
@@BuJammy Nootropics are just cognitive enhancing drugs. Sleep-aids fall into that definition.It does not matter how simple and complex the mechanisms are. maybe google words meaning before you try cheeky comebacks
@@Eduardo-rw8yd That makes no sense. You said "CBD improves sleep.". Ok, some research no doubt says it does. Then you said, "therefore it's a "smart drug" (nooptropic) because it improves sleep quality, which improves cognition.". Nooptropics are defined as cognitive enhancers, not things that aid sleep. In fact, some nootropics are bad for sleep, but lets leave that to one side. You continue with "Sleep aids fall into that definition, does not matter how simple and complex the mechanisms are.". Many (most ?) sleep aids are not cognitive enhancers. In fact, many of them are well established to promote cognitive decline, but lets leave that to one side. If it "does not matter how simple and complex the mechanisms are" then we could say that bathtub meth is a cognitive enhancer, because eventually the comedown will make you fall in to a deep and restful sleep. Better yet, while we're speaking of bathtub meth, let us go with an extremely tried and tested method of cognitive enhancement. Your Mom is a cognitive enhancer, because after she whacks me off, I sleep much better. Entire towns will testify to this, no doubt. You don't know what "mechanism" means and, like most people who are dumb, you use emojis. You clearly need more and better smart drugs, a glass of warm milk, and forty winks. Maybe call your Mom?
So I'm coming over as a fan of Dr Mike, full disclosure. From where I'm standing, most of his advice seems based in pretty solid science. This video about nootropics seems very iffy though! I gotta say though man, if you don't link to a single study or mention one by name (halfway through the vid, sorry in advance if there are references later) this really just boils down to your word against his. Edit: okay, watched the whole thing! Man, that video (Dr Mike's video I mean) sure was bad! I don't ever watch his long form stuff. He has shorter, more scripted and edited videos with much more reasonable advice. So how was this a "critical analysis?" It was certainly critical but it sure aa hell wasn't analytical. You pretty much just said "wrong" or "citation needed" without further explaining any points, making any substantial corrections, or pointing to any scientific evidence. I can agree that Dr. Mike's video was pushing misinformation, but I don't see how this "analysis" meaningfully corrects that.
Hi there. You allege that I don’t point to any scientific evidence, which is false. Do you know what a PMID is? Any time I mention a study, I show it with its PMID on screen, which allows you to retrieve the study yourself. If you manage to find a study whose PMID I didn’t give, then I’ll send you a link to it.
@@Solomon_Nelson my goodness. I listened to most of this video. Lol, I only saw the links at the end. And those were about AAS abuse if I remember correctly. So it seemed like you didn't post any studies about the main topic here! Well, that sure was a misunderstanding. Time to read some studies then! More out of curiosity than anything, I wasn't sold on the nootropic thing anyways!
@@Solomon_Nelson Huh... So I checked out a couple of those studies. The one about weed making negative cognitive effects, I think it was a big meta analysis but I scanned it, didn't see anything crazy. I did read in a study that found an average four point IQ difference in long term smokers. Lol, daily smoking isn't great for your brain, but four IQ points isn't huge. That is important though, people don't always acknowledge that! The other one I read, the CBD study, 31161980 pmid... Did you actually read that whole study? It was pretty damn positive about CBD, mentions like a dozen different areas of possible therapeutic potential and also the one proven therapeutic use, anti epileptic. Regarding adverse events "In humans receiving the drug for the treatment of epilepsies and psychiatric disorders, the most common AEs included tiredness, diarrhea, nausea, and hepatotoxicity. Overall, the incidence of these occurrences is low and, in comparison with other drugs employed for the treatment of these diseases, CBD has a better side effect profile." This just doesn't feel super well researched or well written man, I gotta be honest.
Came upon this channel and hoped I found someone objective and critical that can give counterpoints to Dr Mike and alike. Being natty I genuinely wanted to like this. But after watching a few videos it's clear you're not objective, you're a hater. The way you point out every single little thing that you possibly could that goes against their narrative, throw in a little jab at anything and only agree with them when there's some backhanded compliment or straight up insult to be created from it. It's obvious you do not approach the content in good faith and then disagree, you come in with full determination to disagree and find ways to do it successfully. Shame really, you seemed like a smart guy, but all that I've seen from you has toxic and hateful undertones, which is made worse by your "holier than thou" approach to "roiders".
Here we go again, lol. I tend to agree. If you don't have your brain, you have nothing. It's no good saying "there's a pill for everything". You must guard your brain jealously. I can only imagine the sort of replies this would provoke ("well, actually, nootropics exist to guard your brain".). I tend to feel that nootropics exist for people who are not as "smart" as they feel they should be. A side point. I had my IQ tested in my early 30s. The result was 153. This is highish, but not exactly Newton or Napier. I had a bunch of strokes, out of the blue, aged 32, and it was tested again at 131, more than an entire standard deviation drop. Having it tested 18 months ago, aged 43, it was at 147. Close enough, but I still cannot shake the feeling I am not as I once was. I would also add that it's important to learn how to think, not what to think, then to learn how *you* think, and to learn what you're suited for. Being an intellectual is all about what you've read, while being a creative is all about what you've written. We've all met people who are intelligent but have tried to squeeze themselves in to the wrong box, and would be better off finding out what they are good at. (Although, if you've been a pig farmer for 40 yrs, it's no good saying "I'm really a ballet dancer". You should probably learn to be a better pig farmer).
Imagine saying my IQ was 158, which is about 4 standard deviations from the mean. ... Which is an IQ higher than 99.999% Percent of the population, but hey it's not Newton level. What an idiotic comment.
Sorry to hear that you had a stroke man, that sounds truly awful - especially at your young age. Hopefully you remain stroke-free into the future. After your stroke, which of your mental faculties would you say took the biggest hit?
I'm seriously sick of youtube flooding my recommendations with low quality, clout-chasing content from channels that get a few hundred or a thousand views. it's a shitty type of content and with these numbers, you're not even doing it well
1:35 I love how Mike Israetel is talking about cognitive enhancement as it looks like he has this mini seizure where he blinks so hard at 1:37. People have been commenting for quite a while about all the tension he's exhibiting in his face, obviously from the substances he's loaded himself up on through the years. AND NOW I notice Mike is doing these hard twitchy blinks ALL through the video, lol. And yes saying you "must try" any nootropic/stim drug is really irresponsible. Great how you're calling Mike out respectfully. Lol @ pick up artist app Great vid
To be fair, Mike’s blinking could also just be a motor tic. But yeah, his drug abuse is destroying his body in any case. I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
One thing I’ve noticed with people training a lot and often no matter if geared or natural is that they’re excessively blinking. It might be connected to the cns being constantly stimulated but that’s just a guess.
Taking in consideration his decision to solve problem of not knowing how to train with drugs it's not surprising he's trying to solve his mediocre intelligence problem with drugs too...