How SAM JONES III Found Out He Was Leaving SMALLVILLE

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Damn, he’s here! Welcome SAM JONES III as he joins us on our Smallville Season 3 finale: COVENANT! Before the guys talk to Sam about his experience on the series, his deep family bond with the cast, and his surprise that Pete was white - they dissect the jaw dropping cliffhanger montage that this episode leaves us with. Michael questions some of the bookend nakedness that this episode opened and closed with, Tom questions Lex’s obsession room reveal, and Ryan finds one of the coolest coincidences that has happened this season. Stay tuned for our recap of Season 3 next week!
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@lindamawdsley6130 6 месяцев назад

Sam brought so much to Pete’s character and you can tell he obviously did not want to leave😢

@mattmccullough1093 6 месяцев назад

He Left to do glory road.

@ronaldkishna8319 6 месяцев назад

Sam was so wholesome and good friend

@Hermes11332 6 месяцев назад

He left to do porn & have cam girls on his OnlyFans + drug dealer

@phatmantv 6 месяцев назад

It was the cruelest bait and switch for his black fan base. I never forgave Smallville for that.

@truthseeker2568 6 месяцев назад

@@phatmantvhe sucked

@rebal180 6 месяцев назад

It's amazing how Sam is the only one out of the 3 that doesn't look like he's change all that much in 20 years.

@Mwezi828 6 месяцев назад

Black don’t crack

@michaelclifford7214 6 месяцев назад

I think Michael is 10 years older and Tom if like 6 or 7 years older

@anotheruser1052 6 месяцев назад

Still @@michaelclifford7214

@TristanClarke 6 месяцев назад

@@michaelclifford7214welp. That literally explained it. Lol. Tom's silver foxiness ages him too. But they all look good.

@ninjanibba4259 6 месяцев назад

That hairline sure didn’t either

@ekzoX0 5 месяцев назад

HAIRLINE!!!… … There I said it. Glad I got that out my system.

@RetroExhibitCollective 4 месяца назад

Shit square hahha

@xSunnyDaysx 4 месяца назад

Dude, it's his natural hairline...

@ziggymarley8498 4 месяца назад

@@xSunnyDaysxhis barber is trash.. u wudn't under

@joeysantos3978 4 месяца назад

Got to agree is barber needs to clean that up

@deseanthomas8982 4 месяца назад

i Just need a name Mr, Jones so it doesnt happen to anyone else again

@grungesw1222 6 месяцев назад

Man- Tom and Michael both looked pissed when they were listening to Sam talking about how he learned of his departure at a convention and had to avoid all the fans questions…

@demoth 6 месяцев назад

they probably were. they both voiced their displeasure w the show direction numerous times

@disneytoysr4fun975 5 месяцев назад

I thought they were kinda annoyed that he was talking a lot lol.

@TheDarkdubster 4 месяца назад

you're totally right, I almost felt like they just learned it to...like "wait what? we didnt realize that's how that went down"

@shivang-gupta Месяц назад

@disneytoysr4fun975bro you dumb or what? A podcast's entire content is talking

@heebadeeba7279 22 дня назад

@@disneytoysr4fun975 Stop projecting - its a podcast

@FuzzyDan 6 месяцев назад

As soon as Pete found out Clark’s secret, the writers had no idea what to do with him except to make him a tagalong for Clark. There were literally episodes where Pete’s only scene was to say “Clark, what are we doing here?” or “Clark, what are we looking for?” He did so much more in the first season.

@lemondropzs 5 месяцев назад

Yeah I remember watching the show and finding those scenes odd because he just popped up out of nowhere. Like he was not even around to have any knowledge of what was happening and then he just shows up for a random scene.

@nintencat 5 месяцев назад

Yeah. Happens a lot during the script writing phase. They write a character in, with all the best intentions, but then don't really know what to do with them once they have them. Paint themselves into a corner and then try to paint themselves out. You see this a lot in other shows.

@AzguardMike 5 месяцев назад

he became the whiney third wheel. Always complaining. He was proto Finn. Where Finn just yells "Ray!!!!!", Pete just had "Clark!!!!!!"

@woooooooah 4 месяца назад

He was in the hospital every episode

@ban66a1 4 месяца назад

In fact,Chloe was more useful after she found out Clark's secret,not so much with Pete who i expect work like Robin to Batman.

@thundertower 6 месяцев назад

My man still has the same line up. Bless this man at all cost

@deseanthomas8982 4 месяца назад

O my God he has i never noticed it has never change

@coreywashington5440 4 месяца назад

😂😂

@fronk140 6 месяцев назад

So cool to see Sam Jones III. Such a cool guy.

@matthewmayhem9213 6 месяцев назад

Sam was a favorite of mine and when I found out he wasn't coming back or being part of the show anymore, I was royally pissed off. His role was pleasant and quite grounded and that spoke a lot about his acting.

@jeffkeenan5059 6 месяцев назад

He did it to himself. He demanded more lines and more scenes. They showed him the door. Look at Tom’s face as Sam brags that he was the lead on his first two projects. Being the grandson of Sam Jones ( NBA legend) certainly gave him a big head.

@nicktubara 6 месяцев назад

@@jeffkeenan5059oh i had no idea he has that lineage having a grandad being on the nba. I liked his role in the show n was glad that he got to come back in later seasons. I did hear that he was having issues with the law at some point, good to see he's still keeping at it. I will say, that it would be EPIC if the podcast ever have Allison Mack on there, it would be HUGE considering what she been through over the last few years. It would be redemptive of her to do it where she can allow herself to be candid n honest and not hold back.

@langstonquin 5 месяцев назад

@@jeffkeenan5059 Good on Sam for demanding more than being the token Black guy in the cast. That's not arrogance, it's the reality of what would have helped the show. And nobody even knows anything about him having an NBA grandfather, lmao. That's just projection.

@jeffkeenan5059 5 месяцев назад

@@langstonquin ,I’m glad he did so they could get rid of him. We don’t want ANY tokens ANYWHERE!!! See ya Brotha 😂

@showwhite7320 5 месяцев назад

@@jeffkeenan5059 You've got the wrong attitude. To succeed in life, you need to be able to swallow your pride and ask for help. Your approach is the exact opposite of what you need to do. People who succeed are the ones who are able to put their pride to the side. For example, when an investor is trying to close a billion-dollar deal, he has to be able to take personal insults and criticism. Society today revolves around people working together. Nobody can succeed alone. I know in acting, actors need to learn to get along with others. If you're not known as a team player, you'll get blacklisted. Look at Terrence Howard in Iron Man. Or Marcus Chong (Tank) in Matrix. They all got big heads, and lost big opportunities.

@ddm62571 6 месяцев назад

Pete was such a under-rated character!

@biglocc2209 6 месяцев назад

Did him dirty on the thumbnail 😂

@Middle-FingerAt-U 5 месяцев назад

😂🎉

@danielrosen9930 5 месяцев назад

Wild!

@angellover02171 5 месяцев назад

His barber did him dirty first

@roberterniso5475 4 месяца назад

that's the so called big hats for ya. It was very disappointing and bringing him back as bubble gum hero?...

@xOmniCloudx 4 месяца назад

That's his hairline, not his barber.@@angellover02171

@DarthDread-oh2ne 6 месяцев назад

It was so fun hearing from Sam Jones III again. I always felt like they could have done something with him. In my ending for Smallville; Pete and Chloe end up together.

@GothamKnight84661 6 месяцев назад

That is if Allison would want that or not? Because in her cannon she wanted Chloe and Clark to be endgame.

@DarthDread-oh2ne 6 месяцев назад

@@GothamKnight84661 Clark and Chloe was my second option if we couldn't get Pete and Chloe.

@mrstupiduniverse731c 6 месяцев назад

they probably wanted to bring him back in the final episode but if i remember correctly he had some legal issues he was going thru or family stuff. I really cant remember what it was but it was enough to keep him from the series finale

@DarthDread-oh2ne 6 месяцев назад

@@mrstupiduniverse731c That's unfortunate. Because I really wanted to see Pete interact with Lois and get A scene of Clark, Chloe,and Pete together. I think homecoming would have been A perfect time to bring him back.

@chrispeplinski7306 6 месяцев назад

I wish Pete did make another return other than the guest spot he did in season 7

@mannholloway 5 месяцев назад

I can't believe he still got that cut🤣🤣

@ezekelwilson5084 5 месяцев назад

That barber fuck up his line up 😂😂

@andrewharris9302 5 месяцев назад

Might as well shave it all now

@xOmniCloudx 4 месяца назад

That's just how it grows for him naturally 😂

@adamguinnmusic5871 6 месяцев назад

I thought Pete was terrible. That however was not Sam's fault. It was the writers. He was a dang good actor and the character had so much potential but they didn't use him for anything interesting. He had zero development. Most episodes I would forget he was even in it until they needed a sidekick for something Clark was doing. It was lame they axed him for their mistakes.

@koulor315 6 месяцев назад

That’s true and I do agree but his goodbye performance and the race car episode for me he did great in those

@thebasedgodmax1163 6 месяцев назад

he wasn't developed enough but he was still really likeable as a character.

@mattmccullough1093 6 месяцев назад

You're forgetting about the race episode when he was racing. A car that was powered by kryptonite.

@DavidMartinez-ce3lp 6 месяцев назад

@@mattmccullough1093 that was a good episode

@mattmccullough1093 6 месяцев назад

@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp That was one of my favorite episodes. I remember when that episode was brand new and first came on.

@kinglyatticus 6 месяцев назад

In the comics, Pete Ross actually marries Lana Lang, and they have a child. Pete also goes on to be President of the United States. He discovers Clarks secret on his own but never discloses to Clark what he knows. He and lana eventually divorce after pete discovers that Lana knew Clarks secret this whole time. Because he felt he always came second to Clark Kent, he divorced lana and raised his son in Smallville.

@Caraxes_RoguePrince 6 месяцев назад

Glad they wasn’t a thing in the show

@sandunikalingamudali5200 5 месяцев назад

I don't think writers were ever going to make Lana and Pete a couple in the show... these two actors do not look like a couple... I still believe they shouldn't have made lana, lex and clark love triangle either...

@kinglyatticus 5 месяцев назад

@sandunikalingamudali5200 Yeah, it was a little odd to see that happen to lana. But ngl, that was some good television. Imagine the woman you love the most, marries the person you hate the most. Ooof

@disneytoysr4fun975 5 месяцев назад

@@sandunikalingamudali5200 yeah i can see Pete and Chloe before i can see pete and lana.

@ban66a1 4 месяца назад

That was Annette O'Toole version (Superman 3)

@chrisbarker7619 6 месяцев назад

Hearing Sam talk about this instantly took me back to his last scene and how sad it was. Knowing that he didn’t really want to leave makes it even sadder! 😕

@frankciavone6446 5 месяцев назад

Started watching Smallville when I was a kid getting bullied in school. Fell for the show immediately. I'm now 35 and still love it

@DarkHeart515 6 месяцев назад

Pete was the light of the show. That's huge to accomplish, because his parts in most episodes was so small.

@darkwyve 6 месяцев назад

Yeah, they did not give him a lot to work with, but Sam is just such a great and charismatic actor he brought every moment they gave him to life!

@truthseeker2568 6 месяцев назад

Light of the show😂😂😂 lets not go overboard

@DarkHeart515 6 месяцев назад

@@truthseeker2568 If you don't feel like he brought different energy to his parts compared to the others, then you tell me who you think was the light of the show?

@SeventhheavenDK 6 месяцев назад

@@DarkHeart515. Anybody else but him. That's for sure. His character was forgettable.

@DarkHeart515 6 месяцев назад

@@SeventhheavenDK Ok then give me somebody else from the show that gave feel good energy whenever they was on screen? I'll wait... His parts may have been small, but his energy was everything

@lobofka.1543 6 месяцев назад

He loved the role so much... they chouldve thought of something to keep him in the series...

@tcrump212IsLmbrJck_t 6 месяцев назад

Yall wrong for this thumbnail. lol

@manawearblack 5 месяцев назад

You know, I've been binge watching these clips for the past hour or so and i only just realised that the guy on the left is Tom Welling (Clark) lol, he ages so ridiculously well throughout the show that I still expected him to look like that for some reason

@jcchambers7896 6 месяцев назад

As a black man who was a fan of his in Smallville and blue mountain state his hairline is offensive and yet its still wild 😂😂😂😂 him and the black ranger hairlines are jacked up 😂

@teamtim87 5 месяцев назад

This man's barbers have never been kind to him.

@Hinokami777 5 месяцев назад

Not his hairline at all. His hairline is actually nice. It’s just the shape of his head

@supermac1749 5 месяцев назад

As a bald white man, I wish I had at least that hairline lol

@jcchambers7896 5 месяцев назад

@@Hinokami777 his head is oddly shaped 😂😂🤔

@theobnoxiousguy3425 5 месяцев назад

His barber did the best he could lol.

@jp-zp4zz 6 месяцев назад

So glad they got sam jones on this podcast.. he seems like such a good guy... This pod cast is soo good!

@edwardazar7371 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the memories thanks for being great pete ross

@ace360 6 месяцев назад

Man Im so happy that they got Sam in on a Guest The OG ❤️💙🌹🌹🌹🤘

@Ryda124 5 месяцев назад

Looking at Sam and Tom side by side here and imagining them as their Smallville characters is crazy

@mitchdavis6001 6 месяцев назад

I watched smallville between missions in Iraq lol there would be 4-5 of us watching it together from a hard drive.

@redwolfe7049 6 месяцев назад

Pete deserved so much more on that show. Also, he looks great.

@samuelmcloving1761 6 месяцев назад

I always thought and feel it was him wanting to go, i remember i was sad to see him go.

@15Kilo 5 месяцев назад

Very true what he said. I binge watch Smallville while I was deployed. It got me through for real

@WealthTransferTC 6 месяцев назад

Smallville was one of the best tv series ever. It pulls you in like Once Upon a Time or Stargate SG1. The writing and storylines were great. The way the writing introduced characters was top notch.

@jonnycashh3876 6 месяцев назад

Tom already knew Sam wasn’t coming back ……

@misoboskovic 6 месяцев назад

I hope that Sam will be more open to come back in Talk Ville after such a great reaction from fans. And i hope that he read all these positive comments!

@legion9387 6 месяцев назад

bro is still rocking that wild hairline whaaat lol

@JH-yg5oo 5 месяцев назад

Loved Sam on Smallville!!

@joshk2076 6 месяцев назад

Smallville did get me through war. I still have the DVDs. Loved hearing that.

@KaLx13 6 месяцев назад

I wish Pete had more fanfare for leaving, both Martha and Chloe left Clark so he could become who he was supposed too, but they did that as adults. Pete made that decision to protect Clark when the were still basically kids.

@FaithfulSteve 6 месяцев назад

That’s right Sam. Just like he said. Smallville got many of us through war….❤ I told Tom this at Rhode Island Comic con this year. That he has no idea what Smallville did for me and some of the group I was with in Iraq and Afghanistan. It gave us a sense of security while away from home in a weird way. 💯💯💯

@Lordnova85 5 месяцев назад

I’m hyped that I found this podcast as a big Superman fan this was one of my favorite shows I was in high school when it started its run

@jeso317 6 месяцев назад

Ive never seen an episode of smallville but im very interested in it

@Rosyrose101 5 месяцев назад

His exit made me cry bc even without the soft .music you felt the emotion from the character

@theopenroad2011 5 месяцев назад

all three of these guys were the best they could have ever cast for their roles. That's rare to find in shows.

@R1ZZyD1ZZy3 4 месяца назад

Smallville pioneered the superhero shows...there were previous ones before, but Smallville IS that show!

@ViolentVillain 5 месяцев назад

I was a kid. I came from a very unsafe home and Smallville was everything to me.

@sudan723 6 месяцев назад

Honestly I stopped watching Smallville when Pete left. I loved him and Clarke together. I’m happy y’all brought him back to tell his story.

@reinaiheartpink_ 6 месяцев назад

I loved his character so much I watched all the seasons growing up and when Sam left it just wasn’t the same but God works in mysterious ways and he went on to do better things and develop more

@mrmicro22 4 месяца назад

He did not go on to do better things.

@clairemendoza8082 6 месяцев назад

Loved Pete!! Damn that man hasn’t changed a bit! Still the same after all these years! Loved Chloe’s relationship with him and Clark. Great group of friends! Can’t wait to hear them talk about season 4. Wonder if Jensen will tune in since he was on Season 4. 🙏🙏❤️ Love these clips! ❤️🙏

@Videoproducerfantic 6 месяцев назад

Tom is looking great and much healthier/ younger. Props to him.

@yonahlemieux6719 6 месяцев назад

I was so pissed when they let Pete go!!! I thought his character brought so much to the show.

@texavery8492 6 месяцев назад

I was about to comment on his hairline then I saw the old footage. How did I not know his line was always busted?

@leannepritchett6323 6 месяцев назад

Loved having Sam on!!! Can’t wait until he comes back.

@cynthiastephie Месяц назад

Every hero needs a sidekick and that was Pete.

@damienjohnson4051 6 месяцев назад

It's so cool to see these three...when you have co stars that are really cool off camera it brings so more to their performances on screen .....you go hard for your friends and these three definitely did!! Salute!!!

@somebuddyX 6 месяцев назад

Yo!!!! How awesome to see Sam!! I have been hoping for this for forever! I loved Pete, especially when he was brought into the fold as Clark's confidante. I think the problem was his role was also being done by other characters. Because Lex did the bestfriend role, Chloe soon got the confidante role but also was the plucky sidekick, his parents had all of Clark's knowledge since birth and brought more mature storylines with the Luthors. And getting rid of Pete probably afforded them to bring in Lois as a series regular. I would have loved Pete to come back several more times during the show to help Clark out, not like the gum episode. Clark just superspeeds to chat with Pete at some bar and helps get perspective. "No worries Clark, that's what friends are for."

@BiggRuss 6 месяцев назад

Similar to Guinan on Star Trek.

@uria2001 6 месяцев назад

I believe he said to the producers/creator he wanted more material for his character because he was not given much at a certain point. What hurt Pete's character more than the writing was Chloe being so popular and the chemistry that Tom and Allison had. I loved Pete but there just wasn't enough screen time even if they gave Pete descent stories. Tom and Pete definitely had chemistry but with so many characters somebody is going to get less. Unfortunately it was Pete

@87tezzy6 6 месяцев назад

Nah my man hairline was always crazy 😅😅😅

@drok17games 4 месяца назад

Pete was such a good, brother-like figure to Clark in the show. It was really odd how he just left after all that. He could have had much more of an arc in later seasons.

@uncle_ben_rices_nephew 6 месяцев назад

It’s great seeing these three together.

@warrenman1919 6 месяцев назад

Smallville season 1 got me through 9/11. We needed a hero and Sam was right. Smallville was it. ❤

@AnointedFlow 6 месяцев назад

Pete was such a good character. Sam Jones did his thing.

@bullymaguire9318 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for getting him❤

@adz4528 6 месяцев назад

Really cool to see Sam Jones III!

@baldybald100 6 месяцев назад

Sam was such a great actor in the show!

@TheAnitdote 6 месяцев назад

Damn...y'all killin my boy with the thumbnail

@itpugil 6 месяцев назад

Finally got Sam on the podcast! Was wondering what ever happened to him.

@MasterChiefSha 6 месяцев назад

I loved Pete and never understood why he just was taken out so randomly. Felt like they could have done so much more with his character over the seasons.

@Cofimaslisa 6 месяцев назад

He could be at least in season 4 for high school ending, then it would be fine to leave, but he had one great episode after s3

@cwolf201 6 месяцев назад

I'm glad he went on with you to talk. looked like he had fun reconnecting

@Goldiney 6 месяцев назад

I always missed his character ... I really disliked him leaving out of nowhere.

@lavender89 6 месяцев назад

i saw Sam in the show "The Parent Hood" he had no lines.. he was jus one of the students in the back ground.. very very young. i always found that he should have been in smallville longer.

@cdgates1 6 месяцев назад

I think he was in the background of the wedding episode also. He is good friends with Tyrone Burton. They are both from Boston

@apb38 6 месяцев назад

To be part of a successful series with a significant character must be hard to deal when someone up above tells you that its over.

@What.99 6 месяцев назад

Sam Jones III was great on Smallville AND Blue Mountain State, and he left both shows way too early.

@HKA-Rendition 6 месяцев назад

Tom head tilt at 00:38, says all you need to know what they both think of how Sam was told.

@maddoxtolliver 6 месяцев назад

*_#REALLY_** thought he'd get a cameo in the last season.*

@luisfelipefonsecadacosta 6 месяцев назад

Now they can call Alisson

@camronmorgan7621 5 месяцев назад

This dude and Zack from power rangers had the most offensive hairlines ever

@J.Giovanni 6 месяцев назад

Still got the Nintendo 64 cartridge hairline

@jjay6764 5 месяцев назад

The truth is Pete was a victim of the success of the Chloe character. Chloe just became so popular as a character that there was just no room for Pete. They had to advance the story through Chloe and they couldn't spend time trying to come up with a Pete story that didn't fit into the overall story arc each week. It was a smart move.

@djramshead 6 месяцев назад

The network execs were (and still are) garbage for treating mainstay actors like a disposable background extra. Many stories of series regulars being out and about joyfully promoting their hit show, then suddenly getting news out of left field that their character is getting killed off / leaving town the next season.

@user-lc2kb8ut3l 6 месяцев назад

I feel so bad for him.

@cyndigirl418 6 месяцев назад

Smallville and Game of Thrones are my two favorite TV series of ALL TIME! I continue to rewatch them until this day!! ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️

@4tCa4mzUPqRZZo 6 месяцев назад

Why did they remove Pete's character?

@squatchsurvivalgearusa 5 месяцев назад

Yeah Smallville DVD Box sets made there way around iraq when I was there. My wife back stateside was supplying them as soon as they were available.

@russellkim_ 5 месяцев назад

That harline got man cut of smallville😂

@UltraKryptonian 6 месяцев назад

Remember when Pete got the Kryptonite laced gum and turned to a pissed off Plastic Man, choking the shit out of Lex? I was like DAH-YAMMM, when I saw that! Anyway, I loved this show and I wish Sam could've stayed.

@CaptainSawyer 6 месяцев назад

It’s great to see you dear boy

@neurogenesis9179 5 месяцев назад

It was always interesting to see the friendship dynamic with an actual ship in the picture. Now I have a better understanding of why you left Smallville, both the town and show. The suspense of Clark's secret, and no one knowing was killing me. Pete did save Clark's life, proving he wasn't just a liability, and even heroes should have back up💯

@idostuff91 5 месяцев назад

Hairline STILL crazy after all these years

@martinthabang9621 5 месяцев назад

I'm rewatching this show for the 5th time now. I'm pushing s4e15

@erik9157 6 месяцев назад

Loved him and Toms relationship on the show.

@danw4490 6 месяцев назад

Damn, he hasn't aged a day!

@keonta81 3 месяца назад

Right he's 40 now

@leodefensor4222 6 месяцев назад

Black don't crack. Pete looks the same, and you can really see it when he is right next to his former costars.

@scott9352 6 месяцев назад

Pete looks great but Michael is about 50 years old as well

@Belgas173 5 месяцев назад

It got me through high school 😂

@thedangerwich5476 6 месяцев назад

I see he still got that Nintendo 64 hairline.

@nebriancoleman4704 5 месяцев назад

ZIG ZAG was an amazing movie!

@marcussabom2696 5 месяцев назад

Poor Pete, he was the most well-acted nuanced fun character on the show, and yet, he was rendered pointless by writers who didn't know what to do with him. Like, seriously, what was his purpose on the show? Oh, he knows Clark's secret and keeps him grounded. Okay, so do his parents, and they have the added interest of being regular mortals tasked with raising a demigod with the maturity level of a teenager. He's Clark's friend, so is Chloe and Lana, and Chloe helps him investigate stuff. Lana is a love interest. Hell, Lex Luthor is also his friend, he's the complicated friend. Like, this show made Pete the most pointless character of the show, which is a shame because I knew the actor was doing everything in his power to make Pete mean something...