How the 3-point line is breaking basketball

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The game is at a turning point. Should the rules be changed?
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The NBA introduced the 3-point line in 1979, and not much changed right away. Players weren’t used to shooting from far out, so for the first few years, they mostly didn’t. It wasn’t until the 1986-1987 season that the league as a whole scored over 100 3s in one season.
The arc of the line was shortened for a few years in the '90s, but besides that, it hasn't changed much - and that’s given players and coaches an opportunity to strategize around it. In 2014, statistic-obsessed sports executive Daryl Morey led what many people call the 3-point revolution. He used the D-League Rio Grande Valley Vipers as a testing ground to see if volume shooting from the 3-point line netted better results than shooting 2s - and it worked.
The math states that scoring one-third of your shots from behind the 3-point line is as good as scoring half your shots from inside the line. In other words: Shooting as many 3s as possible will likely lead to a higher score.
The league took notice, and teams and players followed suit. 3s have become so prevalent in recent years that fans are criticizing the league for being oversaturated with them. Critics worry that the game is on the verge of becoming boring because everyone is trying to do the same thing. And that's led some to wonder if the NBA should move the 3-point line back.
Additional reading:
Zak Geis compiled data of all the NBA shots since 1999 by scraping the NBA API. His work greatly informed our reporting, and you can find his original data here: data.world/sportsvizsunday/ju...
We were able to turn data into graph-able charts using this tutorial: datavizardry.com/2020/02/03/n...
James Dator is a senior staff writer at SB Nation where he covers the 3-point line, plus lots of other sports - like baseball, soccer, and the NFL. For more of James's reporting, check out his author page: www.sbnation.com/authors/jame...
And here's his article on the 3-point line: www.sbnation.com/nba/2021/3/1...
Grantland: The Amazing Pace (about how Daryl Morey transformed the Vipers) grantland.com/features/nba-dl...
Grantland: Is it time to move the NBA 3-point line back? grantland.com/the-triangle/is...
Basketball Reference’s detailed stats: www.basketball-reference.com/...
FiveThirtyEight: Did Moving The Arc Bring The 3-Pointer To A Breaking Point? fivethirtyeight.com/features/...
CBS Sports: What the shortened NBA 3-point line of the mid-1990s says about the future of long-range shooting www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nb...
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@Vox 2 года назад

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@dovydas4483 2 года назад

First

@stephcurry2350 2 года назад

First 🥇

@dovydas4483 2 года назад

@@stephcurry2350 no youre not

@Starbrahan72 2 года назад

Any SB nation shoutouts from y'all?

@iamdmc 2 года назад

"How Math is ruining basketball"

@themoon5602 2 года назад

Idk if it's breaking basketball as much as it's just evolving. The 3-point line is allowing people who aren't 7'0" to actually compete using their better accuracy. It's a more diverse game now, which it a good thing. The big man isn't gone, look at Giannis. There's just more ways to be great now.

@Thatslyguyy 2 года назад

spoke nothing but facts

@Simon-tc1mc 2 года назад

Yeah, I agree. I remember being a kid playing basketball and it felt unfair that I didn't care about basketball but did better than kids who lived for the game, just because I was super tall and they were short. Short kids (or not super tall) now have a chance to play the sport they love.

@frybreadking351 2 года назад

Yep 💯

@autumnson 2 года назад

Say it louder

@Nazenko 2 года назад

What makes players great in today's NBA is that flexibility. LeBron is scary when he's beyond the arc because you know he's a good 3-point shooter, but he can also drive by you to the basket for easy points. Same for Giannis.

@T1J 2 года назад

when i played on the basketball team in middle school we would get benched or punished if we attempted 3 pointers lol

@shakingitoff 2 года назад

i mean the three point shot could easily be the worst shoin the game if you dont make at least a third of them. probably why they benched them in middle school.

@Kevinschart 2 года назад

we were only allowed to shoot layups...this was back in the late 90s. coach would count the jump shots and make us run in practice. this was man that had coached pros and won a state championship

@l.s.11 2 года назад

Did you play for Coach Carter? ;P

@lyhthegreat 2 года назад

but were u a good 3 point shooter though, and were you guys taking good shot like shooting only when you guys are open? if u can prove that you can make 3 pointers consistently and only shoot when you are open, i don't see why the coach should stop you guys from taking them.

@abramrexjoaquin7513 2 года назад

@@shakingitoff I have a solution. Keep the 3 point line. But. Make a 4 point dunk. Must be two hands on the rim. Or else it's just two points.

@Praestantia 2 года назад

Honestly, the 3 point line levels the playing field in Basketball. Before, the game used to be a big man's game where height and size made such a big difference because majority of shots were scored inside the paint. The addition of the 3 point line makes shooting skill regardless of size and height very valuable. You can be short but still make a valuable impact as long as you practice how to shoot the ball.

@alectateformayor5129 2 года назад

Tru but still defensive liability. Dame vs gannis type of stuff.

@alectateformayor5129 2 года назад

Why some people don't like it is there seems to be more missed shots

@rdu239 2 года назад

A good point guard will still be a great asset in a team next to a good center, point guard with awesome playmaking skills can dictate and win games without needing to score high points.

@preservethe80s62 Год назад

If anything, the modern game is making it tougher for smaller players. The whole idea of positionless basketball and the constant defensive switching it requires makes it pretty difficult for (most) guys under 6'4" to excel. Finding players under 6'2'' in the NBA is becoming a rarity.

@DanteAtropos 2 года назад

I suggest making a 10 point full court shot just for laughs to see some extreme Hail Mary plays.

@user-tj7pn3kk7p 2 года назад

4 pointer logos

@elijahgavin6706 2 года назад

Best believe some freak of nature would come along nailing them and ruining everyone’s fun

@lisashhotwife2732 2 года назад

Well the warriors would just win everygame then..

@MrVitoriooo 2 года назад

Lol maybe 6 points if you shoot from inside your own 3 point area would be funny

@robbybevard8034 2 года назад

@@elijahgavin6706 That's actually the origin of basketball as we know it. George Mikan was 6'10 back when everyone else was 5'9 and dominated the game so badly they had to raise the height of the nets, introduce a rule about not blocking shots, the shot clock, and start getting other tall players. The prevailing idea at the time was actually that tall guys couldn't play because of coordination or something. He singlehandedly broke the game.

@raehan5988 2 года назад

5:01 "this become a problem when your team can't hit enough 3s" Even vox makes fun of ben

@thermitebanana 2 года назад

I thought they might have mentioned game 7 of the 2018 western conference finals, when the Rockets bricked 27 in a row

@liamleonard5035 2 года назад

Lol poor Seth curry

@michaelh7125 2 года назад

To be fair, that applies to his 2 point shots as well

@boromirofmiddleearth557 2 года назад

ouch....

@Rey-lg8sx 2 года назад

Ben is the reminder that it isn't easy to shoot 3's.

@Mufti199 2 года назад

When he mentioned houston rockets taking 51% of their shots from outside the 3 point line, I was like "yeah that's because 80% of those are from Harden"

@abelvillarreal7676 2 года назад

🤣🤣🤣

@dbabu51 2 года назад

@Imafraid Jumitebeeinnagang yeah bro by that superteam.

@CJ-sz1pw 2 года назад

mainly because of mike dantonie coaching. He lives by the three

@lukamagicc 2 года назад

@Imafraid Jumitebeeinnagang Did you even look at the thumbnail

@lukamagicc 2 года назад

Reminds me of the year they shot their way out of a game 7. One of the funniest things I ever seen live

@thiske0 Год назад

if everyone starts focusing on 3's eventually it might lead to a gamestate where it is easier to score a less defended 2 than a well defended 3. Scoring more than half the 2's is better than scoring 1/3 of the 3's. It might lead to a new system and again back to the different approaches of the game

@greghmn Год назад

We're starting to see this already. Mid-range shots are making a comeback as people realize that openness (defined in general as the distance from the defense) matters as much as or more than the points/distance tradeoff and even Steph Curry has spent time improving his ability to drive to the basket.

@amazintr3266 Год назад

Love this comment, exactly what we have going on now

@SirHugoStiglitz 2 месяца назад

It's happened

@Omoplataha 2 года назад

The 3-point shot was brought in by the ABA to open up the court and make that further shot more rewarding. While also giving the smaller players more opportunities to score. Novel concept in the 60's

@guppy719 2 года назад

The problem is that smaller guys are disappearing in the NBA a big part of it is landing Space shorter guys used to be able to make up for their height to some extent by guarding a guy closer. Landing space made that a foul which meant that to play decent defense you needed to be taller to effect the shot.

@ibringthelastwords1358 2 года назад

ABA is much better than NBA. Dont know what happen to them but a lot of nba success is came from that league in back then.

@yeah-rb6kz 2 года назад

@@ibringthelastwords1358 They merged together that’s what brought people like Dr. J.

@guillermoelenes7252 Год назад

@@ibringthelastwords1358 they merged, and the NBA uses their rules.

@jeremiahjohnson1513 Год назад

@@guppy719 Interesting point in that one idea of the 3 pointer is to give smaller guys more of a chance to play but shorter players are becoming rarer anyways. Curry and Young notwithstanding. I suspect it has to do with defense, because you now need longer rangier players on the perimeter to cover great 3 pt. shooters. So it's a conundrum because a shorter player might be quicker and can get open easier for a 3 but then you need length on the other end to stop the other 3 pt. shooter. What happens is longer, rangier guys start improving their 3 pt. shot to make it in the NBA and if you can have a longer guy who can shoot the 3, you're going to take him over a shorter guy. So the arms race in height continues to escalate even on the perimeter where the shorter player used to rule. Maybe what we are losing is shorter players that are more average level players, it's the 3 pt. shooting phenoms that can still play and be great but the more midrange type talents are getting squeezed out by taller players.

@UPerez 2 года назад

Finally the NBA catching up to my 2K strategy

@iyannlee 2 года назад

Back in 2K14, my strategy was to build a team with sharp shooters and 1 traditional center that can also shoot. Steph Curry Paul George Kevin Durant Kevin Love Tim Duncan

@russellripley6527 2 года назад

@@iyannlee 666

@corngreaterthanwheat 2 года назад

Between this and those weird HS football teams that never punt like they're playing Madden, video games have drastically improved sports.

@ogkd31 2 года назад

@@iyannlee kyle korver was my go to even back in 2k13 at 60 OVR

@iyannlee 2 года назад

@@ogkd31 Yeah absolutely bro, I remember Jose Calderon was good, with Igoudala and Jamal Crawford. Shooting threes during that time was just good to see and feel every time the ball swish.

@TheM3csl 2 года назад

You can't talk about 3-point shooting without mentioning Curry.

@zzcc229 2 года назад

Right I was about to say that

@NatanYayo 2 года назад

Fax

@theobuniel9643 2 года назад

Yeah, I was waiting for the moment they mentioned how broken Curry was when it comes to three-point shooting... but no, they just shifted the narrative to some exec.

@antonm_ 2 года назад

Yup, especially in the part talking about logo threes. Curry was part of that change; the switch from Mark Jackson to Steve Kerr was a huge milestone in this era of 3-point shooting. Not even a mention of GSW, that actually won multiple championships with this exact tactic (not to mention Kerr using big men as playmakers).

@maxh276 2 года назад

@@theobuniel9643 to be fair that exec, Morey was the first guy to have a team shoot mainly threes. Curry wasn't shooting as much back then, and his whole team wasn't either. But he also paved the way for it

@deathbackwards7850 2 года назад

It’ll never happen due to the record books, but making the points switched to 3s and 4s would only making them 25% more valuable rather than roughly 33% more valuable

@nomooon 2 года назад

just allow fractional scoring, change 3pt shots to worth 2.5 points.

@adaelasm6467 2 года назад

Messes with fouls though. Do you have to shoot 3 shots?

@mikelewicki1557 2 года назад

Kinda brilliant

@PaperB0y91 2 года назад

good idea but it now affect free throws. theyre either gonna be underpowered with one point or overpowered with 2 points

@voltaire6062 2 года назад

Records could easily be adjusted. I think it’s definitely worth the slight inconvenience

@dougsmith5690 2 года назад

2 things that could help: - change the rules to allow for more aggressive defense. - reduce the size of the key to make it easier to score inside

@alecrichardson7290 2 года назад

I don't watch the NBA because the defense is so bad, if they would play defense like they cared there wouldn't be as many 3s made

@fraxx3842 2 года назад

@@alecrichardson7290 watch the playoofs then

@NavidErde 2 года назад

I don't think a more aggressive defense would be a good idea. More than an increase of 3-pointers we saw an huge increase of fast break situations and running up and down. And there're also a lot of injuries especially in this saison maybe because of the increase in speed. Aggressive defense will lead to more injuries and that can't be a good idea. Also if you watch the shooting chart you see that there're a lot of scoring inside the key. The decrease is about the amount of long 2-pointers. Well 5 years ago when houston start to shoot a majority of 3-pointers I thought this could be a problem, but after they missed to succeed in the playoffs this story seems to end. The last 2 champions (Lakers, Bucks) balanced the shooting from inside and outside against each other focusing on fast breaks, steals and "drive-and-kick" plays.

@thefloormat3297 2 года назад

@@NavidErde the word is injuries not insureies

@thefloormat3297 2 года назад

@@NavidErde more hutie defendie playie are meanies and wenines. More punchie wunchies downie knockie outies funies tonie watchies highlighties

@markw.schumann297 2 года назад

Summary: "The NBA wanted more scoring and less shoving around under the hoop. So they created the three-point shot and got more scoring and less shoving around under the hoop. This is breaking basketball!"

@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 2 года назад

The problems are, however: 1. Some of that shoving around the hoop was entertaining. Being able to posterize a bigger man is amazing to see 2. Everyone is doing the same thing, which making the game boring to watch. I don't know what the solution is, but I personally don't want to see 7'3" guys shooting 3s. Imagine watching the X-Men, but every single mutant had the same ability to control metal. I feel like this is where the NBA is now.

@KRYMauL 2 года назад

@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 Basketball is a no contact sport, so there actually shouldn't be any shoving under the hoop and all those are technically fouls.

@johnb6850 2 года назад

Thanks for saving me seven minutes of life

@royvandermarel3953 2 года назад

@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 The thing with dangerous long range shooters is that they open up a def for driving. Which SHOULD lead to posterizing. IMO: prime Splash Bros were a great watch. I think it has more to do with guys like Harden, making every play the same one that makes it boring to watch. Dribble down the court, face up at the perimeter, fade away shot and repeat.

@jonathanbennett3691 2 года назад

@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 I disagree with the premise that everyone doing the same thing makes a sport boring. Yes a difference in schemes is bound to spice up the game in some regards but that by no means means that watching two forces attempting the exact same thing isn't necessarily entertaining. Most pro football teams play in a similar manner in comparison with college football, but this doesn't make the nfl much much more interesting. The thing that vox fails to address is why nba teams can't fix this issue. The Air Raid was nasty until they figured out zone coverage beats it, and the '79 falcons defense was nasty until it was figured out that a quick pass will usually succeed. I'm no basketball fan so why defenses can't cover three point shots is open question. if there is no answer, than the nba should nerf the offense in some way, like mandating that only two players per team can shoot threes.

@LeBeautiful 2 года назад

Curry started to revolutionize the 3pt line as early as 2014. It’s amazing now even BIG MEN should have a decent 3pt shot to be recognized.

@TheRoadrunn 2 года назад

Laugh in Giannis

@martytu20 2 года назад

@@TheRoadrunn Even Gianni’s helps with getting threes by generating gravity towards him, which leaves Brook López (a 7 foot old school center who learned to shoot 3s) and Kris Middleton open at the perimeter.

@TheRoadrunn 2 года назад

@@martytu20 its natural, when you're so dominat in low post the chance youve got double team is higher thus make a space for your teammates

@ChrisCali831 2 года назад

Facts it sounds like this video was made by Daryl Morey

@emilianolopez1243 2 года назад

Giannis is two time MVP and he can’t even shoot free throws

@PresidentScrooge 2 года назад

I'm surprised it took this long for teams to even try out to abuse the 3 points rule. As the one guy said, its plain obvious that you need only 1/3 of 3 points to hit vs 1/2 of 2 pointers. Not to mention that a missed 3 pointer can still create chances depending on where the ball goes. I would've assumed that a smaller team would have went all-in attempting this many years ago to get an edge. Yet it took 30+ years for that to happen.

@Gnofg 2 года назад

the actual number is 40% to 50 %.

@NotYou1979 2 года назад

No it took 43 years.

@edwardbrito4010 Год назад

@@Gnofg 3 pt x 3.33 = 10 pts & 2 pt x 5.00 = 10 pts The problem is variation Houston went on a big slump because they’re so predictable. So defense lockdown & losing driver CP3 doomed them. Need balance to throw off team like run/pass in football & can get cold occasionally.

@jovanvasic3434 Год назад

Lithuania and Latvia had similar 3 point basketball system 15-20 years ago, although it wasn't so extreme as todays NBA.

@Lito027 2 года назад

The even more interesting thing is that effective mid-range shooters become more rare, leading to their value being increased as defensive schemes focus on protecting the 3 point line and the paint exclusively.

@Johnkoth Год назад

Its not just that. Players good at posting up is even more rare than good mid range shooters. Big men are not more skilled now. They're less skilled. They almost all don't have any post moves and they just dunk and layup and set screens for 3s. Its the worst era ever for skilled centers. Also Powerforwards play like shooting guards now

@inigobantok1579 Год назад

Not exactly, Derozan, Wiggins, and Basically your stereotype wing still does that.

@nonyun8784 Год назад

Right do u remember Richard (Rip) Hamilton? Won a championship off 18ft jumpers

@stefanrusek2322 2 года назад

This sounds more like people complaining about their game evolving rather than the game actually being more or less boring.

@ThirdThinker 2 года назад

Exactly! Steph Curry indirectly retired a lot of players careers because they didn't want to work on evolving their game. That's the price you pay for being stagnant as a professional.

@vaniIy 2 года назад

Spot on, people gotta realize the game isnt what it was before, but that doesnt mean it’s less entertaining

@totenbrunk 2 года назад

The dude that said “We could get to the point where its just boring cause everyone’s trying to do the same thing”, what? Before everyone was shooting two’s

@BenjaminBroekhuizen 2 года назад

To be fair, as sports evolve, it can also make sense for the rules to evolve.

@ryansmith135 2 года назад

Honestly this is mostly just vox not knowing much about basketball.

@fonzi981 2 года назад

The “big man” isnt really gone amymore. There was a time not too long ago when golden state set the bar on how basketball would be played, and it did seem like the big man is extinct.Their skill set just changed. Some of them can shoot like KAT and brook lopez, play defense like Embid and Giannis, or play make like Jokic. You gotta specialize in something and be a decent shooter to do well today as a big man.

@thermitebanana 2 года назад

Exactamundo! Who were the MVP candidates in 2021? Jokic and Embiid. Finals MVP? Giannis. Big men are still at the very top of the hierarchy, but they've gotta have skills now

@graysonschutzman4853 2 года назад

This videos like 4 years late the 3 point revolution is actually slowing down the last three champs weren't good 3 point shooting teams the only team that ever won depending on it was the warrior and they had two or three of the best shooters of all time. Its now more of just another way to win then the only way like we thought it would be a few years ago. The past three mvps were big men. like this video is so late. What really happened is what happens a lot in football. One team creates a whole new way of winning then every other team zigs to copy them and everyone thinks that's how the sports going to be until on team zags and finds away to exploit that now way and now everyone copy them.

@vectorz8821 2 года назад

Big Man doesn’t just refer to size. It also refers to skill set and range of shot attempts. For example, Charles Barkley was known for his remarkable rebounding and back to basket game. He’s 6’6 at most and he was a power forward/center. Just being tall doesn’t make you that. It’s about skill set combined with presence and size

@vectorz8821 2 года назад

Giannis is a downhill driver and shoulders the point guard duty for the bucks. Far from the Big Men of old. Jokic doesn’t really fit in that category of player either. No problem with that of course, but to refer to them as big men because of their size would be to fundamentally misunderstand the position

@samitpaudel7886 2 года назад

Exactly Gianis, Jokic and Embid the top 3 mvp candidates last season.

@arandombard1197 2 года назад

It's inevitably going to happen when you have two different scoring methods. One of them is going to be superior to the other, so that will become the default. Eventually somebody will run the numbers and find this out. In Rugby, they realized a few years ago that you actually score more often when you kick away possession to the other end rather than try to drive the ball up the field and score, simply because if you can turn the ball over, you've now got the ball deep in your opponent's territory. So now in Rugby, all they do is kick possession away if the ball is in their half.

@vaughnsigal4560 2 года назад

Facts, why you always see ping pong matches in rugby

@DaveWingardJr 2 года назад

Yes, but Nash Equilibrium says that defenses should adapt and make the expected value equal. However, it's so easy to make a 3 and the rewards are so great, teams aren't able to achieve Equilibrium. Nash Equilibrium is how bad passing defenses (e.g. Bengals) all the sudden can get quite good with proper coaching/adjustments (e.g. against the Chiefs). They are achieving equilibrium and they indifferent to whatever the offense gives them. If they "show their hand" and try to stop either the run or the pass too much, the offense has an advantage.

@flimgenco 2 года назад

Pretty sure this same discussion happened maybe 60 or 70 years ago with dunking. They talked about having a 12-foot rim. I think the only change that happened was the widening of the shaded area, but that was mainly because of Wilt Chamberlain. So, I don't think there will be any changes to curb the three point shot. If at all, they might incentivize shooting even further out, like a 4-point line, but that's also incredibly unlikely, if not already ruled out.

@Matthew-qx3dh 2 года назад

3 point line gives a chance for smaller guys to compete on the court, big men still exist

@josuebarboza9809 2 года назад

6'3 smaller guys lol

@jonq8714 2 года назад

Big men don't exist in the traditional sense, they are camping the 3 point line too.

@futurehofer1564 2 года назад

@@jonq8714 unskilled big men camp at the line, in the past guys like Javale McGee and Hassan Whiteside would be getting post ups. If you are talented, you still get loads of post ups. I will not give the ball to a terrible player just because they are big lol

@youngdon3123 2 года назад

Tell what big men that can't shoot and are dominant big still exist oh and Incase you wanna say Giannis he's improved his shooting. He can shoot. So can AD and Joel embiid

@daltonsteede6482 2 года назад

Tell smaller guys to try a different sport

@luis77731 2 года назад

This video fails to explain what generally happens to teams that heavily rely on three's during the playoffs. Teams defend the three point better in the playoffs and because the game slows down, less three's are attempted in fast break scenarios. It's rare that a that team that solely relies on three's, for them to win a championship. And when they do win (17' 18' warriors) they also heavily rely on mid-range jumpers. Good explainer video, but also heavily FLAWED.

@peepinR 2 года назад

That is kind of true. I mean Morey led teams still have never won a title.

@Scottsdaleofficesteve 2 года назад

Still the threat of the three opens up other areas offensively. A team with poor spacing/lack of shooters cannot win in the modern NBA. It’s debilitating offensively

@unfocuseded 2 года назад

Spot on. It's surface level analysis. They brought up the 76ers - their issue wasn't simply lack of 3pt shooting but that one of their stars wouldn't shoot AT ALL. There's also magic within the game on getting open shooters. The Warriors, Nuggets, and Nets all shoot a lot of threes but their offenses are VASTLY different.

@joshkatz4448 2 года назад

So annoying when Vox does a video on something youre actually interested in but they butcher it

@kentcelicious578 2 года назад

good.Hope this shed a light mate

@FarFlungHeel 2 года назад

My solution - and I do think there is a problem - would be to change shots from behind the line to be worth 2.5 points rather than 3. On my view, the game is less interesting now, because it is so much how who happens to get unusually hot or cold on a given night from behind the line, and the beauty of the mid-range game has mostly been destroyed. On the other hand, I don't want to return to the WrestleBall of the 1990's NBA. Literally and figuratively, it is all about where you draw the line, though I disagree with the commentator in the video that said it would not matter if the line were pushed back. It would definitely matter because the farther you go back the more players you eliminate who can hit a sufficient percentage to justify taking shots behind the line. Not everyone is Seth Curry or Damian Lillard, even with lots of practice. The problem with adjusting the line is that in the corners, there is no room to back up the line unless courts are widened, which is not feasible league wide. So, my solution would be to make shots behind the line worth 2.5 rather than 3, which requires only re-engineering scoreboards rather than courts. Making shots behind the line worth 2.5 would mean a player has to hit 40% from 3 to get the same result as 50% from 2. At 40% being the threshold, you'd still have a lot of 3 point shooting from the likes of Seth Curry, but less overall than you see today. It would still make sense for excellent 3 points shooters to take 3's, but it would no longer make sense for guys who average in the 30-35% range to be hoisting lots of longshots worth only 2.5, and the mid-range 2's would start to make sense again. At 2.5 rather than 3.0 for shots behind the line, I think we'd see a great balance in shots from in the lane, mid-range shots and shots behind the line, and we'd have a more balanced and beautiful game.

@benjaminsteen339 2 года назад

Something to think about; think about the contact allowed in the paint on layups and dunks compared to a 3 point attempt. Yeah 3 point shots are contested but never allowed to be as contested as a bucket in the paint. Any contact would send them to the line

@royfablooo2810 2 года назад

Curry was a crucial Part on the 3pt Revolution, when teams saw GSW Win the 2015 Finals and Curry 2014 On wards they already started making more 3's.

@joessj5 2 года назад

He’s not a “part lol, he is the reason for this video.

@kelancameron1625 2 года назад

@@joessj5 Casuals keep crediting Curry for the 3 point explosion. Real ones know that Daryl Morey is the one responsible for it.

@amanialsoquar4945 2 года назад

@@joessj5 what have u been watching? of all the things, is that what you've grasped?

@jj-uv4rf 2 года назад

@@kelancameron1625 morey. really. MOREY??

@kleinsitwala2357 2 года назад

I feel like this guy's goal was really to make a 3 point shooting video without mentioning Stephen Curry.

@lequedicatsamarge4228 2 года назад

😂👌

@MrErricoMalatesta 2 года назад

They literally mention him within the first two minutes. Did you even bother watching the video?

@LaForce1notdone 2 года назад

This is not espn It’s real journalism

@Mzee1084 2 года назад

@@MrErricoMalatesta To be fair they didn't discuss how much of an impact he had on popularizing it. He also popularized deep 3s, and While Lilliard has become known for it Curry started the trend.

@sls12III 2 года назад

The fact that he wasn't mentioned even though he singlehandedly changed NBA is a crime.

@Man-dl9ml 2 года назад

This was very interesting and insightful! Good video!

@Tsuny999 Год назад

The 3 Point line has been there for years since the 80s it only took years for people to realize they can utilize it the way teams do today, something that has been apart of the game for so long shouldn't be changed

@cjezinne 2 года назад

The game was boring when all you had to do was pass it to the 7ft guy and he dunks it…

@DatBoyIsAvirgin 2 года назад

Just to show Wilts 100 pt game (with all due respect) is not as impressive as Kobe’s 81 pt game

@ThirdThinker 2 года назад

@@DatBoyIsAvirgin Exactly!

@mclovin4974 2 года назад

@@DatBoyIsAvirgin Wilt > Kobe (with all due respect)

@hollister2320 2 года назад

@@mclovin4974 dude played against farmers and substitute teachers

@brandnewman21 2 года назад

@@mclovin4974 Aw nah you on coke bro 💀

@AdamRomie 2 года назад

Also if you’re going to make a video with this title and Vox’s reach, might’ve been smart to interview some people closer to the game. Like maybe guys who’ve played basketball, just a thought

@chrisyoung1720 2 года назад

Exactly, this guy has no statistical context for what he's discussing.

@BrawlerTM 2 года назад

Exactly bro. Not a soul in the NBA, whether it's coaches, staff, analysts or players are talking about the game being ruined.

@herrmannmunster 2 года назад

@@BrawlerTM that's not really true though, if we're being honest. Gregg Popovich is probably the defining coach of the past two decades and one of the most respected voices in world basketball and he certainly *does* think the game is being ruined by excessive 3-pointers.

@jgreed5 2 года назад

@@herrmannmunster he a grumpy old man

@herrmannmunster 2 года назад

@@jgreed5 it's possible to be a grumpy old man AND have a very valid opinion. As a neutral observer I must say that the San Antonio Spurs of around 2013-15 are one of the most enjoyable basketball teams I've ever seen. And I'm sad to see that such a team would no longer be viable nowadays because the sport has become totally 3-centric

@cjvaye99 2 года назад

the 3 pointed being added made sense and they did it for a good reason. A 4 point line is not needed and will further space the floor. Basically the game will just be watching guys iso all day and shoot over each other. There's already too much iso in the pros imo and this would only make it worse.

@dominiclee5786 2 года назад

The game of Basketball has evolved. Even Centers are shooting 3-pointers nowadays

@2nd3rd1st 2 года назад

"Most fans are watching because they are emotionally attached to the team, that's what's important." The only reason why Baseball can still sell tickets.

@2nd3rd1st 2 года назад

@Don Chae true because its true

@filthy0819 2 года назад

That's not true nobody is loyalty to basketball team that much anymore they have loyalty to players that's why people aren't watching cuz players don't stay put anymore

@queentron17 2 года назад

Bingo!!! The Raiders lose almost all the time and they have the largest fan base!!

@dbclass4075 2 года назад

That's applicable to any type of sport.

@dgw4049 2 года назад

Shooting takes more skill than dunks. 3s make it so a 6ft guy with an incredible jumper has a shot to make the nba. Shooting makes basketball for normal people again and not just 7ft freaks. This is good for the game as a whole.

@holeindanssock156 2 года назад

Yes and no. To dunk over and over on big defensemen you have to work so so hard to get close to the paint and keep it fresh as theyll adapt. Cant really adapt to someone sniping from half court. Lul

@DoubleTTB22 2 года назад

Dunks are still the most efficient shot in the game by far. I mean you are literally picking the ball up and placing it in the hoop directly. Nothing can compete with that in terms of average value per shot. The next most efficient shot is the free throw, which you usually end up getting when driving to the rim. The next most efficient shots are layups and corner threes Then the above the break 3's that everyone takes now Then mid-rangers.

@ComS512 2 года назад

I don't want to see normal people. Go to your local gym for that.

@dgw4049 2 года назад

@@ComS512 Go outside, lower your rim to 9ft and see how easy basketball is for Wilt Chamberlain. Then, step back 30 ft and shoot a shot on that same goal. The 30ft shot simply requires more skill. A guy who can hit a 30ft shot at %50 accuracy while being guarded is not normal. You won't find him in your local gym. However, he is a freak because he worked hard to develop his game, not primarily because he was born with a certain set of genes that made him taller than 99.9% of humanity. My son will never be Wilt. He could become something like Steph. Shooting makes basketball accessible to everyone, which makes it more fun to watch.

@dnice4145 2 года назад

@@dgw4049 it's quite the opposite. It requires less "skill" and simply more practice. Kerr was a good three-point shooter but nobody would call him "skilled". You heard the statistic you only need to make 33% of your 3s to match a 50% average of 2 pt shots. An effective low post/mid range game are harder to develop.

@Quilt82 2 года назад

The answer is simple: All successful baskets go through a Plinko. Will you get 1 point? 2 Points? 3 points? 15 points!?

@anen9332 2 года назад

What broke the NBA was the hard ban on hand-checking that took place in 2004-05. Teams shooting 50+ threes per game is the result of making perimeter defense a (near-)automatic foul.

@jaylonmarikar6829 2 года назад

The game is far from being broken. It has evolved. The big man is still very much alive, as seen in several of the GM surveys where big men are leading MVP races. Even Jaren Jackson Jr was voted the highest to have a breakout season. The big man has an admittedly smaller role, but still an integral role in the game of basketball

@Jackson-mi3dr 2 года назад

you touch down on a lot of different things. The big man is largely obsolete. Modern NBA requires big men to be good shooters or at least have good defense, and think about how many quality big men are from overseas. It's not a coincidence. The euroleagues have a much more fundamental youth system that teaches kids the technique, compared to the shitshow that is AAU. The last AMERICAN big man to seriously dominate was Shaq... there have not been many revolutionary centers who have the strength, agility, etc but most importantly the FOOTWORK to be as dominant as Shaq Robinson and Hakeem. Big men are still important, but they are still expected to be able to shoot if they want to get starter minutes... when is the next big man gonna come around and say "yall cant stop me in the paint" and go to work?

@ConspiracytardHunter420 2 года назад

@@Jackson-mi3dr First of all this isn't what's actually happening. Giannis alone has won two MVPs, DPOY and finals MVP award in the last few years, he can barely hit a jump shot. Also Jokic just won league MVP and he gets a ton of buckets in the paint and gets a ton of rebounds, granted he's all finesse and skill, but that's what's required because the level of skill in the league is higher than its ever been. How is being able to pass and shoot from deep a bad thing, it only raises the level of competition and skill required to compete. Anthony Davis, Joel Embiid, Karl Anthony Towns, etc.....

@amjan 2 года назад

It has evolved into being broken.

@dnice4145 2 года назад

@@Jackson-mi3dr yep. You got these 7 footers standing behind the 3 point line like they're playing guard or SF position. It's just weird for anyone who's watched basketball since before the 2000s.

@mapper7310 2 года назад

Its better, because people like Steph Curry and Luka have proven you don't need to be a 6'9 big man to be good at basketball, and I think that might be better, because obviously as Giannis has proven, both big man centered teams and 3pt centered teams like the Warriors both can win championships

@zyllas9715 2 года назад

Stephen curry is on another level with his three's

@abort_abort5322 2 года назад

African hand ball

@BeKindToBirds 2 года назад

@@abort_abort5322 Brand new account with anti jewish pepe profile pic. ..hmmm

@davidhaimo734 2 года назад

Thanks a lot for a great video!

@toyyoda3119 2 года назад

Imagine making a 7-minute video about something "breaking basketball" and then only bringing up statistics showing said thing is being used. Players are actually paying attention to a line painted on the floor? The horror.

@cjezinne 2 года назад

The answer is on Defense. Allow for more defensive pressure outside the 3pt line… decreasing league wide 3pt percentage and increasing the value of the long 2pter…

@nightwing4065 2 года назад

My thoughts exactly!

@chrisyoung1720 2 года назад

I'm not sure what you mean by more defensive pressure, NBA defenses have already extended further out.

@cjezinne 2 года назад

@@chrisyoung1720 I meant more leniency on reach in calls and a bit of hand checking. Allow the defender to get their hands in there and get closer to the defender. Similar to the illegal contact rule in football outside 5 yards… once the defender steps within the 2pt lines, back to normal… make the 3 ball harder to get off

@chrisyoung1720 2 года назад

@@cjezinne I actually think that's an interesting idea, but I do think the amount of picks modern NBA offenses use could easily negate that extra defensive pressure.

@Philosific 2 года назад

The game is just getting more efficient. This is usually the result data has on everything but the curve eventually flattens. This is basic econ. The advantage never lasts

@MrCTruck 2 года назад

You'd think these professors of economics would understand that

@Ksoism 2 года назад

The difference between 2p and 3p is so small, that when teams fortify their defences out in the 3p area, there is a more space for dunks, lay ups etc. It's a hard game to try to tell games entertainment quality through statistics. Futile, even. Games have been good, I do remember the old matches also - everyone inside 3p line, waiting for shot clock to exhaust it's stride once more before a move. Courts were so packed occasionally, that there was no space for the playing now that half of the court is truly always open for action, there is so much more space for things to go down that I certainly don't share their fears. It's good that there are incentives to evolve the game. Now it's up to the teams and players to adapt.

@Said-zl2xc Год назад

No body is complaining about it except so-called experts. Like you said, the 3 point has allowed for players to space out creating opportunities for more flashy dunks and layups

@rickeyshamburger7652 Год назад

I love this show and I'm going to subscribe right now

@ImOriginallyGreen 2 года назад

This is how games work, as time goes on, strategies become more and more optimized based on the rules. Nothing is being “broken” here. It’s just slowly the nba has figured out the “meta”

@NashRespect 2 года назад

If the meta revolves around something that was added, and is now dominating the meta, "broken" is an accurate adjective to use

@mattzero7837 2 года назад

@@NashRespectIt's not broken if its only used a third of the time, If there's no 3's teams just clog up the key and becomes tallest player wins, shooting from 3 is a skill which makes games more entertaining, watch kawhi's game 7 in the fianls

@psicologiajoseh 2 года назад

I think it has reached the point where it is balanced. The classic game is still important, it still is. It's just that now there is room for a greater diversity of strategies and players with different characteristics. And that is a good thing.

@seesee5363 2 года назад

No there is not almost every team is doing the exact same thing on offense

@Hooperd2023 2 года назад

@@seesee5363 and it still doesn’t matter, as you can see, the championship has ROUTINELY gone to the team that shoots the mid range effectively for the past 10+ seasons.

@nhlanhlasithole2899 2 года назад

@@Hooperd2023 school dat bwoy.

@theotherview1716 2 года назад

There’s almost ZERO diversity now.

@GoldenGod69 2 года назад

@@seesee5363 Bro look how the Bucks just won the championship last year, it wasn’t off just three point shooting, it was based in the paint and mid range.

@joeym5243 2 года назад

I mean back in the day it was more like whoever had the taller player had the biggest advantage, so it's really just people whining. The game will evolve to counter teams that only focus on three point shots.

@QuinnDonaldson 2 года назад

basketball is as popular as ever in almost every country in the world, keep the game how it is

@Him_Downstairs36 2 года назад

This why I loved the Suns/Bucks finals. 2 teams that play outside/in and inside/out. They had 3 point shooters, mid range players and post players. The perfect mix.

@Wasserkaktus 2 года назад

If only the Suns had more experience together, then they would've won.

@wazzup233 2 года назад

@@Wasserkaktus Phoenix lost to the Finals this year both on the NBA and WNBA.

@raimundohott9716 2 года назад

@@wazzup233 So?

@gracelandtoo6240 2 года назад

@@wazzup233 That's tuff🔥💯

@GansoFlair 2 года назад

can't believe they didn't mention steph curry's impact on the way the game is played today

@Real28 2 года назад

I think it's implied at the beginning.

@Totalpckge 2 года назад

The Disrespect!

@hucz 2 года назад

they let the numbers speak

@sowishful 2 года назад

@@hucz they mentioned “Damian ‘logo’ lillard” instead 😭😭😂😂💀💀

@ancientphilosopher 2 года назад

They don’t watch basketball, they’re internet nerds

@gregorymurphy9980 2 года назад

I like the three pointer. I have noticed since there is less congestion in the paint there seems to be a lot more unobstructed drives to the hoop. I also like that you no longer have to be a 7 footer to be a force.

@protecttomato5180 2 года назад

They didnt realize that we see more highlight dunks because the defense is not congested.

@Johnkoth Год назад

Jerry West avg 27 per game. Baylor 24 per game. Pistol Pete 24 per game.

@reuniteireland 2 года назад

I don't buy the logic that it's ruining basketball at all. I love watching well executed 3s. All they did was change up the dynamic so that they have more options. Before no one would shoot long at all if they could help it, is that any more exciting? Are people really excited about lay ups and short shots?

@Gnofg 2 года назад

The lack of the post is most noticed at crunch time. It is much easier to get a good shot off of the low post or the high post.

@Mari-gn8su 2 года назад

The reason so players are taking so many threes is because of the officiating. Literally any type of contact is a foul. So now defenders are basically forced to let their opponent shoot jumpers in their face because the don’t wanna risk give up 3 free throws.

@brandnewman21 2 года назад

Nah there’s a rule to prevent unnecessary contact to draw fouls

@austinz9310 2 года назад

If all contact was a foul wouldn’t that incentivize driving to the basket and created contact? The reason take more 3s is because they’re worth more points. That’s pretty much it.

@UAlredyKnowWhatItIss 2 года назад

that's actually not the reason.. the reason is exactly what they said in this video. analytics suggests shooting threes is better, so more teams started shooting more threes

@kazedcat 2 года назад

o3t0r1ya But analytics is wrong inside shot are not 50% only mid range is 50% with several exceptions where a mid range player can have greater than 50% at mid range. What is actually happening is that >33% 3point shooters are cheap so teams can stack their lineup with as many shooters as they want. But >50% mid range player are very expensive and there are only a few of them. Also the coaching staff buy into the myth that 3points are always better and misuse their talents who have >50% mid range shot. People who can't do math are doing math incorrectly.

@Mari-gn8su 2 года назад

@@austinz9310 but if no one can guard you from the 3 don’t you think teams will look for 3 point shooters and older players would want to change their game. You missed my point.

@ill_steal_your_pbj7363 2 года назад

The value of an instant bucket on the inside or off a fast break is still incredible. People like Giannis aren't going anywhere. Teams aren't going to completely give up a 2 pointer JUST because it isn't a three, so big men and slashers can still break down defenses and punish them with finishing or passing. Also, teams are adapting to defending three-pointers, so offenses need to become more efficient and still have those inside threats. It isn't breaking the game in a negative, it's just reshaping it in an interesting way, at least to me. I don't find it painful to watch the ball move as much and find an open man off a cut, or maybe have an iso to watch somebody go to work. Also, it makes defense more exciting to watch, because it isn't just people bumping into each other anymore.

@lik7953 2 года назад

Well just like how 1/3 from three is equal to 1/2 from the 2, guys who are good at the 2 pointer also score more points. If giannis can shoot 80% on dunks and layups that’s waaayyy more efficient than the best 3 point shooters

@Mzee1084 2 года назад

@@lik7953 Indeed. Also tends to be harder to get close enough to get those shots off as you have to get through the defenders unlike with shooting 3s. I think there are still stars like Giannis that aren't about 3s, but I do think the game has shifted too far in the other direction. I found the Warriors with Klay and Curry to be super boring to watch. What's nice about 2s is all the creative ways players get to get through the defense, and the acrobatic jumpers and layups. Defense also got more involved this way.

@thecountofmontecristo8280 2 года назад

No one is arguing that 3pt shots should be 100% of shots taken which is kind of what you're doing - 51% is the highest mentioned in the video. Of course 2pt shots still play a critical role in the game. But to counter your point on fast break points, players turn down the easy 2 for a 3pt shot all the time! Ask yourself, is that because they know the analytics or is that because they think they have a better chance of hitting the shot? If it's the former then you've just lost the argument.

@marqshaw7888 2 года назад

@@Mzee1084 I find it odd that you find the Splash brothers boring to watch when the Warriors play the most team ball in the past decade. They lead the league in team assists, cut, slash, screen, etc… and it’s not just to shoot 3s. In they’re dynasty years they were actually a really balanced team that actually shot more 2s than 3s. (Bogut, Barnes, Livingston, Iggy, Klay, Durant, West, etc… provided a lot of interior scoring). They just had two of the best 3 pt shooters in NBA history, so the league tried to mimic the 3s and everybody started jacking them up. They literally play team basketball. I’m guessing you don’t actually watch GS play outside of highlights.

@Mzee1084 2 года назад

@@marqshaw7888 I watched a little bit of it, and I found it boring. Still way to many 3s for my taste. I don't watch that much of the NBA these days because of the 3 point fest, and lack of defense due to rules changes. The more physical play of the 80s, and 90s was much more enjoyable to me, and 3s did exist back then, though not used nearly as frequently.

@shaqtaku 2 года назад

Three point line: exists NBA players: And I took that personally

@Fuegoooo2211 2 года назад

its breaking the basketball we like and was used too. just evolving is all

@SaadKhan-sg1ki 2 года назад

I don't see how it's breaking the game. If a team is known for attempting more 3 pointers then it's your job to defend them better. It's a skill to consistently score from a distance so it should be rewarded.

@Mzee1084 2 года назад

Defense has been hamstrung by rule changes over the years, and for many of the fans all the 3s makes the game less exciting.

@IramCoercere 2 года назад

@@Mzee1084 many but most os us want the 3 point line. Why should only tall people have advantages?

@Mzee1084 2 года назад

@@IramCoercere Tall centers are now practicing 3s instead of working in the paint. Tall players still have just as much advantage, and shorter players can be point guards, and sometimes shooting guards too.

@IramCoercere 2 года назад

@@Mzee1084 what i meant to say is, that the 3 point line is only fair, so that it not only depends on how tall you are

@juandelacruz4679 2 года назад

I also feel like some statistics from outside the NBA would've been useful, how do the statistics pan out on fiba rules and stuff.

@plutoburn 2 года назад

It's not the 3 point line, it's been there for a long time. It's the defensive option (lack of) at the perimeter that's making 3pt shot statistically the more valuable shot that lead teams like Rockets and Warriors hurl the ball from deep all the time.

@nathanlevesque7812 2 года назад

@Tech-cy9yo 2 года назад

True. The rules favor three point shooting but the NBA updated the rule book, so shooters can’t intentionally draw fouls anymore. I think defense is gonna be a lot tighter now.

@plutoburn 2 года назад

@@nathanlevesque7812 If they allow the teams playing defense more ways to guard shooters at the 3 point line such as bringing back hand checking or don't give fouls so easily to players like Harden when they do pull up 3s.

@RSMoreno 2 года назад

@@nathanlevesque7812 rule changes to how you check dribblers have drastically changed. The limitations put on how the defense can legally guard is similar to what has happened the last decade in NFL with pass interference. Back in the early 80s, a defender could push and pull dribblers with both arms… sonetime in the 90s, they changed that to one arm. Now they rigorously call any defensive contact… even when the offense initiates contact.

@nathanlevesque7812 2 года назад

@@RSMoreno Last time I watched, the players were constantly grabbing each other's jerseys. Even that is obnoxious to me.

@luishuncho2054 2 года назад

3 pointers also went in way more because of foul baiting and players being scared to foul 3 point shooters but now thanks to the new rules players don’t gotta be scared to close out on shooters.

@pashinfps 2 года назад

Gottta love the closing statement there. The fans really don't care. They love the teams and the sports and as long as we aren't changing the game dramatically and making it a different game all together then why worry about it. I'm surprised it took the NBA this long to figure out how that it makes sense to shoot more 3s. 30% from 3 is equivalent to 50% from 2. Why did it take 35 years to figure that one out?

@Squeekysquid 2 года назад

It might also have to do with something I saw in another comment about how playing with the 3 point line adds that experience to next generation of players. When it was first introduced the people that were playing weren't trained with that line in mind, and the next generation was learning from a generation that didn't utilize it that much. The dude that mentioned this explained it way better than I could. It boils down to how experience is turned into wisdom for those that come after. A comparison is the evolution of engines as a whole. Not just the gas powered ones we're so familiar with. It dates back to steam power.

@robnichols229 2 года назад

Alternatively you can make a 2 point shot worth 3 points and a 3 point shot worth 4 points. This then still gives shots beyond the line more value than shots within, but devalues it significantly since shots beyond the line are only worth 33% more than within as opposed to 50% more.

@ricklocket2812 2 года назад

and floppers like harden would shoot 25% to 50% more freethrows. Yay!

@cesarbernal3959 2 года назад

@@ricklocket2812 harden doesn’t even get much free throws with the new rule ☠️

@michaelg34 2 года назад

I like this idea, however it would implicate the scoring system. Free throws would have to be worth 1.5 points for 2 free throws or a decimal for 3 in order to add up to 4 which wouldn't work. Then scores would start looking like 88.5 to 90.5 and it would just be weird. I'm sure there's a solution, however.

@robnichols229 2 года назад

@@michaelg34 you could just shoot 3 free throws or 4 free throws for fouls inside vs beyond the line

@talcat8031 2 года назад

@@robnichols229 the problem with that is it would slow down the game. I don’t really have a stake here as I despise nba. But another idea could be 8 (or 7) behind the line 6 for a traditional bucket and 3 for a free throw.or it could be 5,4,2.

@TheNoviceVillage 2 года назад

"The Rockets became the first team to shoot more 3s than 2s." Yeah, and see where that got 'em.

@DrawQuick2014 2 года назад

the closest anyone ever got to beating the greatest basketball team ever?

@christianroy4177 2 года назад

@@DrawQuick2014 the raptors literally beat the warriors in the finals what are you on about?

@gqtuesday 2 года назад

@@christianroy4177 😭😭😭😭got em

@philly6954 2 года назад

@@christianroy4177 The warriors were injured, they only had Stephen Curry and a weak bench So no the Raptors didn't beat the greatest basketball team ever

@ericzhang7658 2 года назад

@@DrawQuick2014 27 missed 3s in a row

@lad8907 2 года назад

My cousin who plays said that he just mostly watch his favorite team/players do their thing, and most of the time doesn't really care very much about the opposing team unless they do some stuff that catch his attention

@ColinRichardson 2 года назад

Idea: Lower the rim. This will allow the ball to be intercepted mid flight more. . This reminds me of the whole "The guy who broke jeopardy". This guy was unstoppable. They made the game harder.. He still won.. They brought in ringers (eg, more intelligent people).. Slowed him down, but he still won.. His strategy was different to others to maximise money rather than win the round quickest. It just broke the 'usual' ways to play.. . In the end.. they eventually DID come up with a strategy that made it harder for him, and eventually he lost... They made the game easier.. At that point, almost ANYONE could play at his level, and rather than other people getting things wrong and he them scoops up the wins. Other people would take greater chances and take all the good stuff for themselves because they felt confident they could answer the questions.. And.. it won.. . So, sometimes, getting into a "make the rim higher, make the 3 point line farther away" will reduce the amount of players who can actually play the game, and it will be a case of, 3 pointers are the ONLY way to win the game, because it would not be worth putting in short range players. . So, time to think backwards. . So, making the rim lower, and making intercepting the ball easier, means the players will need to get closer and closer to ensure their shots have the shortest amount of 'travel' time. Giving their defense less time to intercept...

@NattiNekoMaid 2 года назад

Do you mean make blocking easier? You know you can’t intercept the ball on the downward arc of the trajectory right, thats goaltending.

@ColinRichardson 2 года назад

@@NattiNekoMaid sounds like a nice easy rule to cut out of the rule book then.. Simple

@your_fathers 2 года назад

@@ColinRichardson nice easy rule? the rule been there since 50s and keepin 7fters from blocking every shot, you know nothin about bball if u type all this out and not even know what goaltending even is

@ColinRichardson 2 года назад

@@your_fathers we watched a video about how they keep changing the rules to change up the game. And you are arguing about not changing a rule because it will change the game? Are you alright ?

@YDNfn 2 года назад

Perfect timing for Klay Thompson’s return

@abort_abort5322 2 года назад

African round ball

@YDNfn 2 года назад

What do you mean?

@nert-13 2 года назад

Easy. Just make 3s less valuable by making 2s score 3, and 3s score 4. Thus, to be as good as someone shooting 50% from inside the line, you have to make 37.5% of shots outside the line

@rly1977 2 года назад

fascinating idea -- in this scenario, how would you score free throws?

@longwu9412 2 года назад

Not enuf to only consider reward, it is still more valuable than 2s, and all those trainning makes the risk diferrence quite minimal.

@nert-13 2 года назад

@@rly1977 free throws, you get one shot at a 2 pointer and ball

@alexp8785 2 года назад

@@longwu9412 that's not how analytics works.

@mob_abominator1868 2 года назад

That's not the point though ? Why would they do that ? There's a reason shooting behind the line gives you three because it's riskier and requires more skill and practice. More risk more reward simple.

@thedrummerdude2431 2 года назад

You know something's up when you can have a more interesting/exciting basketball game in the video game

@mcming3338 2 года назад

I feel watching steph curry shoot 3's is leagues more interesting than Kareem's Skyhook, which literally did break the game and make it unfun to watch at the time.

@blackmugen 2 года назад

Dirk Nowitzki was maybe the catalyst of this exponential grow on 3 point shots.....just because you aren't expected a 7'0" guy shooting from far away. But this is very interesting nonetheless. Also I think the international basketball game, any basketball outside of USA, they trend to play for the 3 point shot. They just adapting to the game and players too.

@kylethompson3218 2 года назад

Dude, Dirk's 3 pointers literally fall from space 😂 Vox people need to realize that there is multiple ways to play a game 🤦

@marcusmendoza2378 2 года назад

Curry changed 3 point line

@kylethompson3218 2 года назад

@@marcusmendoza2378 True, but Dirk did it before it was cool 😂

@blackmugen 2 года назад

@@marcusmendoza2378 don't forget about Ray Allen and check his numbers...just saying

@dylanf3108 2 года назад

It was definitely the GSW that caused the explosion. There were great three point shooters before that team but no team was heavily built around that like those Warriors are. You had guys like Ray Allen and Dirk but they were outliers in the NBA not norms.

@jrmarcus 2 года назад

The change to how fouls are called for shooters initiating contact should change the game a bit. Defenders will be able to guard the perimeter better, and the three-point shooting percentages will drop as a result of more defensive pressure and more misses counting in the stats as the players don't head to the free throw line as much.

@nomooon 2 года назад

when they took away hand checking, it was green light for shooters ever since.

@6reps 2 года назад

It's not simply shoot more 3's = win Didn't mention anything about spacing and switching or anything about the nuances pick and roll of today's game. Players today are expected to guard versatile players from 1-5 at times. PG are getting taller and Centers are getting shorter because how well a team is able to manipulate mismatches. What analytics really say about the game is; if you're a role player space the floor out and shoot the 3 because it makes it easier on your star players without a clogged up paint.

@kinodertoten4922 2 года назад

I like this modern style. It makes the player defend, and not just clogging in the paint.

@kambocommando6009 2 года назад

Is it just me or was Curry never mentioned at all in this video… a bit strange considering he is the single biggest reason for this shift in the NBA.

@hocuspothos387 2 года назад

Math was the biggest reason for the shift.

@FatCatCooper 2 года назад

Lol basketball simp

@oliverhumphris4771 2 года назад

No they are correct. Guys like Morey and statistics are the reason for the shift. the shift just allowed Curry to flourish.

@barakobama9743 2 года назад

He’s overrated

@zen.artwork 2 года назад

@@barakobama9743 tell me how

@names305 2 года назад

nah ball isn't breaking--it's just evolving

@user-pb3fi1rp9e 7 месяцев назад

Amazing video!!! I really liked the part where they played basketball!!!

@seanlowry6014 2 года назад

Because it was so much more interesting when all that mattered was who has the tallest player to throw it in to...

@ylstorage7085 2 года назад

"God fights on the side with the best Artilleries" --Napoleon

@fattahrambe 2 года назад

Artillery only

@ylstorage7085 2 года назад

@@fattahrambe good point, "artillery" is usually used as singular. But, "artillery" can be countable as well, and it is suitable for this context too.

@badmanskill1112 2 года назад

@@fattahrambe I was there. Napoleon said "artilleries." We used to call him Lil Nap.

@stealtho 2 года назад

yeah the word artillery can be used to refer to many artillery or just one

@stealtho 2 года назад

@@badmanskill1112 that’s a shame I didn’t see him say that I died in borodino when the Russians did a cavalry charge

@ernestbywater411 2 года назад

While I'm not familiar with the US NBA and their stats, I can talk about how the 3 point line changed the way basketball was played at the amateur level in Australia. The 3 point line is NOT breaking the game of basketball at all, but it has resulted in players having to learn more skills. Prior to the 3 point line the focus of the defensive game was on setting up a good tight zone close to the line of the key and keeping the opposition players out of the zone, if someone had the ball outside the zone you left them be. However, if the person with the ball outside the zone was a good distance shooter, and there have been good distance shooters about since the first days of basketball, then you had to have someone leave the defensive zone to hassle the player with the ball, and that made room for people to cut into the zone. The 3 point line encouraged people to shoot from out there which lead to encourage hassling of players further out which lead to opening the zone a lot more and passes to people cutting in. I lived through this transition as both a player and a referee of amateur basketball. The 3 point line made for a faster and more exciting game, which also lead to more fights for the rebounds in a slightly less crowded space. Saying the 3 point line damages the game is like saying the introduction of the shot clock damaged the game. Both were introduced to liven the game up, and both did just that. If you do away with the 3 point line you might as well do away with the shot clock. BTW: When I played about 80% of my shots were made from outside of the where the 3 point line is, and most of that time was before the 3 point line was introduced. As a player of 5 ft 9 inches tall I had a distinct disadvantage in shooting over 6 ft plus opposition players, so I learned to shoot from further out because they kept to their zone position and that gave me the better angle over them. That changed when the 3 point line gave them incentive to come out and hassle me. Also, for many years prior to the 3 point line I played on a team in the early 1970s with some old guys who played in the Olympic team in the 1950s and one of them had a record of scoring 95% of his shots from within 2 paces of the halfway line.

@mainhoondon21 2 года назад

Really cool to read all this. Thanks for sharing.

@amachefe2 2 года назад

Wow... really good perspective with history. Thanks for sharing

@MartinHernandez-hm5sb 2 года назад

Good comment

@polpol1005 2 года назад

the game needs more balance tho, it's becoming boring to watch. We need better defense and solid centers

@Uraveragegamer172 2 года назад

@@polpol1005 I don't think that has so much to do with adjusting how 3 point shots work though, I think that'll happen naturally as the game develops. I have been an avid basketball fan for a while, although I've never played seriously myself. I have however played water polo at a high level, and we have a similar situation with shooting outside of 5 meters (up until recent rule changes which I haven't played with). Remaining outside of 5 metres allows for more shooting flexibility, but the moment a team starts to contest those outside shots, you look to the big man in the middle for a shot from close to the goal. I imagine the same will naturally happen in basketball. The moment people start locking down 3 point shooters, teams will need a strong center to pass to for a layup or dunk. Eventually teams will start to focus on locking down that center, and then 3 point shots are open again. Overall I think people just need to give the league more time to develop here, these things tend to sort themselves out naturally, its just that progress is kinda slow as players don't typically want to change their play style dramatically, so we're waiting for young guys to make adjustments.

@theFirstAidKit 2 года назад

I don't follow basketball at all, how ever I do design games. Why do I feel like there is an easy fix, just not quite sure how the players, teams and fans would recieve it. The three point line is good, it provides additional ways to play the game, however the 50 % point increase makes it too valuable to not try and do 3 pointers. So the fix is, give 3 point shots 4 points and 2 point shots 3 points. Now the value is only 33 % better, making it more viable to play closer to the net. This way a really good long distance player can still bring a lot of value to the team while not making it make or break it to have those in your team.

@jakestine1159 2 года назад

This devalues free-throws slightly and also makes free-throws use more time (slows down the game), which is bad for a spectator sport. I agree that your proposal solves one problem but you will also need to address the Free Throw (FT) problem. Which might be to not have FTs, or make FTs 2 points each and always give players 2FTs (which could have other positive impacts on the game, because currently most players have little incentive not to foul -- its only the one Help Defender near the Key who ever gets into Foul Troble) (

@rexcolt9742 2 года назад

So, the NBA essentially _Moneyballed_ their scoring points from short to long distance...

@TheRoadrunn 2 года назад

Yez 3 point line is important but in playoffs mid range jumper is a key. When you can excelled in both area youre literally unstoppable

@piusbutarbutar1782 2 года назад

This years playoff should show that the midrange ISNT dead See how middleton and booker made living in the midrange

@sollymadeit 2 года назад

You know I’m ok with stats but only when used right… There is a distinct correlation between loosening up foul calls and 3 pointers taken too. Look into that for a solution without over complicating it

@SASDFFify 2 года назад

correlation != causation If the NBA does decide to take action, the main issue is that E(2pt shot) @ 50% accuracy is identical to E(3pt shot) @ 33% accuracy, and its much easier to hit 33% compared to 50%, even for bad shooters. This can be addressed by changing how points are tallied such that shots within the arc are worth 3pts and shots beyond the arc are worth 4pts. This means that teams would have to average 37.5% for a shot beyond the arc to be equivalent to a shot within the arc, assuming they're shot at 50% accuracy. This would discourage teams from spamming low percentage, ill-advised threes and raise the benchmark for a competent shooter in the league. Moving the line back can also be a solution, but players are likely to catch up in a few offseasons.

@nickborn2369 2 года назад

the meta of a game like that is always changing. sooner or later a team will come up with something new that will start winning and everyone will jump on that

@TYDescartes 2 года назад

Since my strategy in NBA Jam TE has been built around 3-pointers since ~mid-1995, I can only assume that the NBA in general is only just now catching up with the brilliance of my stratagems.

@AwesomeBoysJPTV 2 года назад

You forgot to mention that Steph Curry is the reason that 3s skyrocketed duting the 2013s

@BS-vx8dg 2 года назад

How many "2013s" do you think there were?

@specialist0147 2 года назад

These dudes act like defending threes are impossible. I think its made the game more competitive and requires players to be more versatile for shot creation/making

@Gnofg 2 года назад

what is missing is true fast break teams. We are pretty much watching 4 guards and a forward.

@FromTheHipp 2 года назад

nah. if i know you're just gonna shoot from 25 feet out...i just gotta play the drive and contest. aint no competition in that

@russellst.martin4255 Год назад

1:41 Chris Ford alone went 70 of 164 on 3's in 1979-80 2:00 The entire NBA went 64 of 227 on 3's in 1979-80 Something aint adding up guys

@shaunsimon9189 8 месяцев назад

I think the thing that people miss is that the three point revolution was invented by Mike D'antoni in order to get more layups. The analytics today don't just say, take more threes. it says specifically that you should cut out the long 2s. the 18 footers and beyond because those shots are converted at a similar rate to threes but are significantly less efficient. It also really applies to role players who are now spaced to the three point line so they don't clog up the lane. Role players used to stand just inside the arc and shoot something like 45% on long 2s. Now they space to the three point line and shoot like 38% on threes which is much more efficient, but teams and analyists know that a layup/dunk is still the best shot in basketball.

@tozotasty4598 2 года назад

Everyone only takes 2-pointers: “2 teams with very different approaches” 1 team takes half of their shots from 3: “a game of who’s able to hit more 3s”

@dustinridgeway3383 2 года назад

Not actually a contradiction

@stevieboymkii 2 года назад

5:26 - pretty sure we got to that point a few years back... Sleep inducing volume of 3s coupled with lack of defence. At least the defence is stepping in the right direction this season.

@angematik9 Год назад

The game is just evolving, stop complaining about it and evolve defensively to stop it

@Mark-gi4tp Год назад

I think an interesting idea would be unique courts for the home team, similar to the different fields in baseball. That would allow teams to have a court catered to their strength; let the team update the court every 3 years or something. For example: whomever has Rudy Gobert could eliminate the 3 ball from their court, and force them inside. The warriors could expand it and take advantage of their long range sharpshooters and open up the game even more. Would be fun to play around with this idea in the D league

@8teenOfficial 2 года назад

They need to thank George Mikan, he's the one put it on ABA

@errk8093 2 года назад

Yea, lets not take any sports critique from VOX 🤣

@johnmarc1986 2 года назад

This new rule that reduces the fouls on 3 point shots should help. The thing about the inside 2 is the chance of getting a foul and scoring 80% from the free throw line or getting the and 1.

@maje.47 2 года назад

Its not ruining its changing from your favorite way of playing the game

@m.x. 2 года назад

6:50 *_"Do teams that shoot more 3s have more or less demand? And the answer is it has no effect at all. Fans don't care. The vast majority of your fans are watching because they're emotionally attached to the team."_* He couldn't be more wrong. The NBA has fans across the globe and I doubt that majority of them could be considered "emotionally attached". The most unconditional fans may last longer, but it'll inevitably cause less and less interest for the sport as a whole. Also, there would be less chance that those who were not fans but could potentially be, never were and opted for another sport.

@thearacit1878 2 года назад

i thought the same thing. As a non-american basketball fan with no big attachment to a specific team, I've been watching less and less nba over the last few years as I've found it became a bit of a 3-point circus, which is very boring to watch

@diggalehd966 2 года назад

As a european fan I absolutely agree. These were my exact same thoughts.

@chretienli6405 2 года назад

I think I, alongside many in the new generation, find 3-pointers exciting 😕 it’s a marker of skill, and remarkable accuracy at the NBA level. The game isn’t breaking it’s just becoming more efficient and skilled

@brickwall2002 2 года назад

My thoughts exactly.

@riskderic 2 года назад

Oldheads are just salty because their idols weren’t skilled enough to shoot threes, and maybe they’re also salty that they themselves can’t shoot threes

@RLSmith-jt8qj 2 года назад

@@riskderic no they just like their brand of basketball.

@bobzombie2710 2 года назад

@@riskderic Not really. The 90s had some solid 3pt shooters, It just wasn't popular. Also, I believe it's more exciting to see a Dunk or a battle in the paint than a 3 point contest lol. But some of the 3pt shots are nasty ngl.

@bobzombie2710 2 года назад

@@RLSmith-jt8qj This.

@lvseka 2 года назад

In football, it doesn't matter where you shoot from. If it's post to post, still one goal, from a penalty, still a goal. Maybe, that's the reason why most of the world loves it