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@@1chaft plus artists make more money from outside of the music industry. It’s like the music is marketing and a gateway into acting and other brand deals
Tbh this all comes down to the fans if people just supported good music artists wouldn’t need labels to push the product by people are simulated now a days so we have a divide.
1:49 this happened in the UK. 2 RU-vidrs purposely made a real shit song and they got it on the UK charts. The video is called 'we hacked the UK music chart'. But they didn't buy fake views tho. They just got loads of people to buy it
After you take into consideration more people stream than buy physical records the answer is no that those won't be all real streams if his fan base isn't active and large. Also don't forget Billboard has now just re bought back 'Bundles' counting towards physical sales. That's not organic.
spotify playlists like rap caviar are dined out or they do "dating" so it's not that they pay directly but they do get a nice diner or some tix to a show or something
They don't pay to RapCaviar, the majors have deals behind closed doors. These little services that run mid sized playlists definitely sell spots, and they get caught often, and the plays are never organic (ask me how I know lol). Streaming platforms A.I. is way too good to finesse non-human streams so you'll see ppl getting caught a lot moving forward.
If u write, record, produce, mix & master ur own music u get 100% royalties. Letting Spotify take a cut of streams in that scenario balances out to that of an artist that doesn’t produce/mix their own music maybe more.
Lmao bro did yall forget that casual listeners usually listen to things twice? And then hardcore fans will listen to an album like 5-10 times in a week it's not super surprising when you add that into streams. Lets Say An artist get 1 million people to tune into their album first day right (realistic for artists like uzi ,travis , post etc), around half will probably listen to it twice to double check if it's ass or not or w.e. as for the other 500k... Take uzi for instance he has 100k or more real hardcore fans , they by themselves get get 1 single on spotify to a million in like 12 hrs from constant listening. Just by themselves. How about an album with 16 songs? Hardcore fans will it get it to 100k × 16 × 10 aka 16 million listens alone in just rather than in 12hrs. Add the 500k casuals who will probably listen twice (1-3) , 500k×16=8m × 2 =16m! So far we have 16m+16m = 32m in one day As for the 400kfans leftover that aren't as hardcore they will stream anywhere from 2-5 times which is less than hardcore stan fans but more than the casuals who just came for the hype surrounding the album (?). Boom. 400k ×16 = 6.4 million streams x (2-5) let's go undercut it and go for 3 Which arounds an extra 20 million to our equation. (Majority streams!) Keep in mind the artist will get their biggest streams on day one , so our total is now 32m + 20m =52m all from one day. After that day things die down hard whether or not a project is good or not and also.... depending on if their singles before the album were already trending! .....A song that already has a ton of traction will automatically boost up the listens overall album streams even if it has to carry it. So if that single on average was racking in 10 million spotify listens extra each week then you can basically add 10 million to that equation immediately so that the album is now at 52m+ expected 10 million. Lets say the next two days it goes down half , so basically no more casual listeners. That's 104m streams in 3 days +expected 10m Now here is officially where I think it matters , if more of the newer songs are actually good and ppl give it good or really bad publicity they will increase so much gaining more new attention so let's just say for the argument and artist like uzi did this with eternal atake , let's just keep it constance 26m a day regardless of new fans , on avg you will see at least another new song on the album become trending so that song now gets extra millioms im a day alone. So another 10 million to add to the pot that first week. In another two days by night fall the album should have 160~ million streams and it's day 5! Another 2 days and the album still being talked about by casuals forget about it but for fans they will keep listening, so add another 52m making your total 210m + additional 20 million from hit song chartings 230million legit streams but NOT played by 230 million people bro 😭. The rest i believe for these huge artist to get to whatever numbers are backed by their labels managers executives, billboards , payola lol all of that. But 400m authentic is still authentic and possible for an artist like drake or taylor for the same reasons and DOUBLE the hardcore fans (global).
If you want to beat the music industry at it's own game slowly build a strong fan base and always treat your fan base well talk to them, thank them for their support your fans will buy your music, your fans will push your streams for you, your fans will buy your concert ticket and merchandise. You have to learn how to circumvent the Music Industry.
You crazy if you think Morgan Wallen numbers is all organic but Uzi and Post Malone aren’t😂😂 this is nothing new. This shit been going on since the 50s. Labels wouldn’t push James Brown like other artists, so he bought his own radio station and played his own music constantly. All the music from the 80’s, you had to go and pay the most lit DJ in the region to play your song.
Astro world had a lot of physical sales because of the merch bundle deal that Travis MILKED TF out of that’s why his jump went from 88k to 501k which is ridiculous. Travis numbers are going to be lower than astroworld facts unless Travis milks something else
y'all forgetting how JW is also a streaming god and with this being his "last project" supposedly + it being more hype music/grails it might actually be 1 of the biggest projects this year. It's a highly anticipated album fs. Label just bad at marketing imo so we'll see
Has nothing to do with being good, it was his first full length project in a while so it had a lot of buzz around it. Luv is Rage 2 was a great album so a lot of people were tuned in for a new album. Plus he coupled it with the deluxe which was very popular with his core following. Eternal Atake started the whole separate deluxe thing. A deluxe album was usually just the original album with a extra 2 or 3 new songs on it. EA started the trend of a deluxe being basically a whole new album that adds to your sales of the original album