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How the FANTASTIC FOUR Can Join the MCU After DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS 

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Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness featured many cameos and crossovers fans have been waiting to see. Not only do we get our first confirmed mutant in the MCU, with Professor Charles Xavier--but fans finally got their fan-casting wish, seeing John Krazinski play Mister Fantastic, leader of the Fantastic Four. A Fantastic Four movie is coming to the MCU--soon. But who will Marvel's first family enter the Marvel Cinematic Universe? We have some thoughts.
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The fantastic 4 are finally in the MCU… well sort of. John Krasinski is our Mister Fantastic, and that’s a fan casting dream come true. Which quickly turned into a nightmare, after Wanda shredded Reed into spaghetti.
But Marvel studios is working on a Fantastic 4 movie, so Krasinski will probably return as mister fantastic very soon. And I assume that it’s a pakedge deal, so Emily Blunt will join him as Sue Storm.
So we got to talk about how the Fantastic 4 will be introduced, now that we met a version of Reed from another universe.
Multiverse of Madness gave us some hints on what we can expect from the Fantastic 4, and how they will be introduced. And with so much happening with the multiverse, that’s how the fantastic 4 could fit into the larger scale of the MCU. And probably play a key role in the years to come.
But before we get to the MCU’s Fantastic 4 movie, let’s first explore the mister fantastic we got in multiverse of madness.
Earth-838’s Reed Richards is described as the smartest man alive. And that’s what he is in the comics. Reed is the most intelligent person on the planet. And he also has his signature stretchy limbs.
He uses a teleportation device to make his grand entrance in the Illuminati chamber. A teleporter that kinda reminds of the time traveling portals the TVA uses. And is it just me or does his grand entrance kinda feels like a video game’s character's entrance?
Also, Reed is probably the one who built the Ultron bots. He’s the smartest man alive, so that’s why in this universe’s Ultron didn’t turn into a murder-bot, and instead the peace-keeping-AI he was meant to be. So this confirms that Reed is a hell of a lot smarter than Tony.
When Mordo introduces Reed as a member of the Fantastic 4, Stephen jokingly asks “didn’t you guys chart in the 60’s”. And this could be a lot… maybe.
This joke is a wink to fans, because the Fantastic 4 made their comics debut in 1961.
But this remark is also in reference to a fan theory that garnered a lot of steam recently. This theory is that the Fantastic 4 will come from the 60’s. With the speculation that they were stuck somewhere in space or the quantum realm or some other place for the last 60 years.
And this is all mostly based on the ideas of Peyton Reed, who was developing a Fantastic 4 movie in early 2000’s. Reed, by the way, is the director of the Ant-Man movies. His dream project was a Fantastic 4 movie that is set in the 60’s. He pitched it, and instead we got this.
So I guess you could speculate that Stephen’s remark about the 60’s is in reference to that. Because you can make the connection between the word “chart” and charting a course….maybe on a spaceship that goes to space.
Well it’s that or it’s just a clever Easter-egg to the Fantastic four music band. Who’s song “The Whole World is a Stage” made it to the Billboard charts in the 60’s. And yeah that’s a real thing.
And remember, Stephen is a music aficionado. So I guess it’s best to not put too much stock into this 60’s remark. Funny how fans jump to conclusions so fast just with a few key words.
The 60’s direction sounds like it could be interesting, because it’s a previously unexplored era. And maybe it could play into the idea that the Fantastic 4 are Marvel’s first family. So in the MCU they will be the first real superhero team, pre-dating the Avengers.
But I got to level with you, I’m not sure if I want to see that in the MCU.
Marvel already has a few out-of-time characters: Steve Rogers, Bucky, Janet van Dyne and Carol Danvers. So it’s not such a fresh take anymore. Honestly, the whole 60’s thing just feels too much like an unnecessary gimmick.
And yeah, I get it, there is something really compelling about doing a time period movie with the Fantastic 4. But I also think that fans gravitated toward this idea for the same reasons why people keep fan casting John Krasinski and Emily Blunt for Reed and Sue.

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@ScreenCrush
@ScreenCrush 2 года назад
Who do you want to play the Fantastic Four?
@llpostboy
@llpostboy 2 года назад
Ur mom
@AhmadAneeq
@AhmadAneeq 2 года назад
EMILY BLUNT as invisible woman Bryan Cranston as doom
@robbbi
@robbbi 2 года назад
Sue Storm (her wife), Johnny Storm (idk), The Thing (Michael Chiklis aka Origin F4) 😄😄👍
@thebigpat799
@thebigpat799 2 года назад
If not Emily Blunt as Sue Storm then Alice Eve or Bryce Dallas Howard as Sue Storm. Dash Mihok (Ray Donovan) as Ben Grimm. Tanner Buchanan (Cobra Kai) as Johnny Storm. And Cillian Murphy as Doctor Doom.
@SpaceCopper
@SpaceCopper 2 года назад
Omg Brian Cranston as Dr. Doom would be phenomenal.
@emanemanne7088
@emanemanne7088 2 года назад
I think placing them "out of time" is the only way it'll make sense. We don't WANT to see yet another FF origin story... just like the X-Men. I just want them to already be fleshed out... which they already are from past movies. Unfortunately, the Fantastic Four would need to be established in the past and reintroduced in the present. Janet, the OG Wasp, could be the way we find them because I do think Dr Strange will go LOOKING for Reed Richards thinking there should be one in this universe - only to find out they went missing in the 60s... enter the Ant-Man squad. They'll find them in the Quantum Realm and bring them home.
@dirtyschoolclothes7260
@dirtyschoolclothes7260 2 года назад
Agreed, please no origin movie
@mageeaaron2624
@mageeaaron2624 2 года назад
Agreed! Also, since Kang is going to be in the Ant-Man movie, they could say that he imprisoned the Fantastic Four in the realm because they would become a threat to him later. But he doesn't kill them because this version of Kang assumes that if Reed and Sue dies, he would no longer exist. As for the X-Men. They could introduce them the same way in the comics. Where Professor X is using his telepathy and resources to keep mutants a secret. Until a huge event happens that he decideds to no longer do it
@JRF32185
@JRF32185 2 года назад
I think it will be even simpler than that. They will bring the Fantastic 4 into Earth-616 in Secret Wars, along with others like the X-Men characters. And they will be here permanently by the end.
@emanemanne7088
@emanemanne7088 2 года назад
@@JRF32185 Yeah, that's what I think they'll end up doing - which I actually wouldn't mind, at least we won't have to go thru another origin story plot. But dangit I still need to know why there are no mutants in 616.
@emanemanne7088
@emanemanne7088 2 года назад
@@mageeaaron2624 THIS is why I feel the way I do. They have everything already established. Janet living in the Quantum Realm (and evolving), the ease of getting there, the dome city, Kang's announcement in AntMan3, FF movie in development, Reed Richards in DS2:MOM (and using Kang tech)... They just gotta get the story right so that it all makes sense. Hell... Pym could be the one Doctor Strange ends up speaking to because he was the OG AntMan from their time.
@Nuck82
@Nuck82 2 года назад
I don't understand at ALL how people could hate John as Reed!! And how can you judge his whole 5mins of screen time. He looked pretty damn great and would love to see him play with the roll more. More so with him also directing
@JohnSmith-pe6wo
@JohnSmith-pe6wo Год назад
All people who have played Reed Richards have looked accurate. The only problem I'm seeing with him is those idiotic additional black squares on his suit. Also where are you hearing any of this, the internet?
@noni4535
@noni4535 Год назад
IKR The Krasinskis both being in F4 would be Epic
@UndertakerU2ber
@UndertakerU2ber Год назад
From what I’ve seen, most are fine with the casting but HATE the writing of Reed Richards’ character. People sarcastically say that Krazinski’s Reed is the most r*tarded incarnation of Mr. Fantastic in the entire multiverse.
@noni4535
@noni4535 Год назад
@@UndertakerU2ber I agree hon. The script is imperative.
@FrogGuru
@FrogGuru Год назад
Yes he fits the part by looks but that reed being the smartest man in the world. That universe must have been filled with idiots
@kalebhendrickson7672
@kalebhendrickson7672 2 года назад
I'm really liking the theory where Defender Strange was actually the Dr Strange from the Raimiverse
@ohnobro1424
@ohnobro1424 2 года назад
Lmaooo
@mattphoenix7816
@mattphoenix7816 Год назад
Tbh that is a dope theory cause I was wondering why he didn’t reference the Spider-Man 2 line at all
@ryanbrown173
@ryanbrown173 2 года назад
I want a Dr. Doom Disney+ show that explores his backstory. He has such a rich story, I think it would be great to see him exploring Earth and seeking knowledge and power to build him up as a dark parallel to Reed. Plus it would be cool to see a major and reoccurring villain built up in the MCU the same way the heroes are
@Tortuga2223a
@Tortuga2223a Год назад
Yes dude Dr.Doom is my top 3 favorite characters in marvel
@alma94_
@alma94_ Год назад
These are the Disney+ shows we need.
@Lord-Emperor-Vader
@Lord-Emperor-Vader 2 года назад
I think it could be interesting if the Fantastic Four was set in the early 2000’s so they can be the first team without being out of time. They can be stuck in space or somewhere else.
@nioxic77
@nioxic77 2 года назад
Reed richards is funding his search with a gofundme, with various... stretch goals!
@oof1907
@oof1907 2 года назад
I always thought that the fantastic four didnt get snapped and reed and tony even knowing each other. Reed could even visit and congratulate Tony and Pepper about Morgan, before he announces that him and the rest are going to be in space for awhile
@markwootson5550
@markwootson5550 2 года назад
yeah like they can be stuck in a quantum realm.
@WastedPo
@WastedPo 2 года назад
@@nioxic77 - I wish I could post that gif of Orson Welles clapping.
@thephilosopher7173
@thephilosopher7173 2 года назад
@@markwootson5550 That's a good idea! Ppl are completely overlooking why Kang is appearing in Ant-man so I'm glad someone's brining it up.
@deathsyth8888
@deathsyth8888 2 года назад
Prediction: Black Panther 2 will have an end credit cameo by Dr. Doom.
@bmla88
@bmla88 2 года назад
No thanks
@matthewboyd68
@matthewboyd68 2 года назад
@@bmla88 The place where Steven Wakes up in Moon Knight is implied to be Latveria and the Word Von D. make a cameo in the cupcake truck
@okthen9225
@okthen9225 2 года назад
@@matthewboyd68 it’s already been confirmed that it’s not doom
@captainjefferies9047
@captainjefferies9047 Год назад
Still wouldn't watch it.
@captainjefferies9047
@captainjefferies9047 Год назад
@@matthewboyd68 No Like Doom would let that cult in his country. He would have had Harrow fed to his lion.
@allendean9807
@allendean9807 2 года назад
It would be cool if Richards helps vision regain his old self- i mean, all he has to do is reintegrate a mind stone from the offices where Loki is temping..
@DoubleO88
@DoubleO88 2 года назад
White Vision already knows his history he just has no emotional connection to it. I think it would be more interesting if he rediscovers that as time goes on naturally without any Infinity Stone shenanigans.
@allendean9807
@allendean9807 2 года назад
@@DoubleO88 that’s a good point
@Marujo803
@Marujo803 Год назад
Vision Quest
@moviebuff7769
@moviebuff7769 2 года назад
I think the idea would work better if they were just ordinary Astronauts before they disappeared. Their Experimental StarkTech spaceship got sucked through a wormhole during which they get exposed to gamma radiation getting there powers, and when they pop out on the other side they have an adventure with like the Scrulls or something (maybe teasing Super Scrull in the post credit scene who is the baddie in part 3; obviously Dr. Doom will be the baddie in part 2) then find a portal back to earth only to discover that several decades have passed. Less Lost in Space and more Buck Rogers.
@ezequielblondetto152
@ezequielblondetto152 2 года назад
Me like
@icarteret
@icarteret 2 года назад
Me like
@BlackCenturx
@BlackCenturx 2 года назад
Me like
@mattphoenix7816
@mattphoenix7816 Год назад
Gotta have Surfer and Galactus down the line…tho maybe that’s an Avenger level threat
@MLN-yz4ph
@MLN-yz4ph 2 года назад
I really want Doom to be a stand alone movie that is built up to. He needs space and time and has more then enough story to pull off even a big screen feature. The Fantastic Four, I just think they can wait and maybe even not be a stand alone all at once story. Maybe get Reid out of where ever and work on building out the rest over time.
@captainjefferies9047
@captainjefferies9047 Год назад
No. Doom should be treated like Vader. Have him show up being a mystery and beating the heroes before you blow the lid off him in another movie.
@pabloquijadasalazar7507
@pabloquijadasalazar7507 2 года назад
Based on what you’ve said; a Fantastic Four Disney+ show would be the way to do it. From how you talk about it, the Fantastic Four aren’t or shouldn’t be too action oriented (which makes sense considering the powers, so I don’t know that a movie makes that much sense.
@suisui7481
@suisui7481 2 года назад
yeah but marvel knows that FF are a household name and their 1st MCU outing being a show would not be good financially
@pabloquijadasalazar7507
@pabloquijadasalazar7507 2 года назад
@@suisui7481 Are they still going? I pretty much associate TFF with boomers and the older comic book crowd. Even when I was a kid I found them to be the most boring super heroes I could choose from.
@suisui7481
@suisui7481 2 года назад
@@pabloquijadasalazar7507 ok so what happened is when Sony started making fantastic four movies, marvel writers basically had the FF family with the future foundation go into the negative zone and like explore other universes and basically they vanished from the comics for a long while, then in 2018 they came back in an epic return. Also the FF are very imp for a lot of the huge plots and even smaller ones especially with the evil reed richards and so. do try to read them again and see if you resonate more with them
@JETVISION1
@JETVISION1 2 года назад
The FF started the Marvel Age of comics, and laid the foundation for so much. Those characters and their stories, if done correctly, are phenomenal. The Kirby/ Stan Lee and John Byrne runs of their comics were incredible. They were hardly BORING! They just weren't given the proper treatment by Fox. Hopefully the MCU finally gets them done fantastically. Pun intended.
@huntrokilla
@huntrokilla 2 года назад
Bill Burr as Ben Grimm
@BlackHedgehog
@BlackHedgehog 2 года назад
I think Krazinski being Reed Richards in MOM was a one and done, but I can see him writing or directing for sure. I also think Strange's line "Didn't you guys chart in the 60s?" is more than just a small or insignificant line. And it's going to be how the F4 end up being in the MCU. Also explains their absence from the MCU. Or it's just that band thing?
@jonlewis9627
@jonlewis9627 2 года назад
I hope you are right. I just don't see or want him or his wife in the movie or anything to do with the film . I just don't buy him as R.R. Hopefully I'm not the only one that feels this way
@larrystrange8044
@larrystrange8044 2 года назад
thats where Ive gone F4 need to be a 60s period movie
@zipboy4630
@zipboy4630 2 года назад
I think Krasinski will come back and I hope he does as there is gonna be a Fantastic 4 movie
@marx3379
@marx3379 2 года назад
most likely a band thing. Strange was poking fun at all of the illumanti's names as they were being called out. (blackagar boltagar and stephen's pig latin retort)
@larrystrange8044
@larrystrange8044 2 года назад
@@marx3379 Thats what the writers were going for but it makes a great explanation for why they are just showing up and makes the movie easy to do. just tell the original origin story from the 60s. Fits the accuracy thing theyve been going for more in this phase and for once their complete lack of interaction with other heros in their solo would make some sense too
@MWhaleK
@MWhaleK Год назад
I really like the idea of the FF being from the 60's and having been frozen in time or skipped forward about sixty years somehow. It gives an interesting and easy to follow character arc for Reed, Sue and Johnny as they adjust to having lost out on over half a century. It would also be very different from what happened with cap as they not only have each other but didn't lose quite as much time.
@jcboyle82
@jcboyle82 2 года назад
I’m pretty sure the “charting in the 60s” comment is a call back to Strange’s incredible memory for music chart toppers and that there was a soul group out of Detroit called “the Fantastic Four” that *did* chart.
@DaviesKirk
@DaviesKirk 2 года назад
I thought it was just a Beatles joke, since they were the Fab Four
@skindreads
@skindreads 2 года назад
It could also be a reference to The Beatles AKA the Fab Four
@jcboyle82
@jcboyle82 2 года назад
@@skindreads Strange is a music nerd. He wouldn’t use the Beatles nickname when he has a chance to flex his music knowledge.
@DaviesKirk
@DaviesKirk 2 года назад
@@jcboyle82 what, he'd rather make a joke that no one gets? I don't think so
@jcboyle82
@jcboyle82 2 года назад
@@DaviesKirk Yes. Yes he would if he could flex while doing it.
@faristhehonest
@faristhehonest 2 года назад
You are killing it lately 🔥
@speedykings
@speedykings 2 года назад
It woud be so crazy if they have Cris Evans to play a cameo human torch at some point of the multiverse, like a Steve´s grandson or so
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 2 года назад
They were S.W.O.R.D. agents who went to space and got superpowers, simple as that
@cameronh225
@cameronh225 2 года назад
Boring
@bmla88
@bmla88 2 года назад
No thanks
@linkostrich3256
@linkostrich3256 2 года назад
S.W.O.R.D agents who were captured and experimented on by rebel Skrulls attempting to merge multiple races together and make a super Skrull
@Oibble
@Oibble 2 года назад
They were blah blah blah snore
@luksalter8200
@luksalter8200 2 года назад
Could work
@DionJamari
@DionJamari 2 года назад
To me its pretty obvious how they'll enter. After Reed was introduced in MoM, Strange asked " Didn't you guys chart in the 60's?" We all saw the city bubble in the Quantum Realm. Janet gained powers from being there so long, which may likely be the reason for theirs as well. They've been there the whole time and my guess is the events of Ant-Man 3 will free them
@MrBazBake
@MrBazBake 2 года назад
Chart in the 60s is probably a reference to the 1960 musical The Fantasticks by Tom Jones.
@DionJamari
@DionJamari 2 года назад
@@MrBazBake Two things could be equally true maybe🤷🏾‍♂️
@jamescheddar4896
@jamescheddar4896 2 года назад
krasinski and rudd in the same movie and it isnt a comedy
@MusicLover-my6fo
@MusicLover-my6fo 2 года назад
The Fantastic Four have always been my favorite team in Marvel Comics. Thanks for making this video to show how important they are to the Marvel universe.
@jonnbridges
@jonnbridges 2 года назад
Oh hey, I was the one who made the fan poster used for the background of this thumbnail! That's cool, I've been loving these Screen Crush videos for a long while!
@DBTT1000
@DBTT1000 2 года назад
The Fantastic 4 movies that came out in the early 2000s were awesome! That shite they realesed a few years ago, was just that, shite!
@wheatgrowssweet
@wheatgrowssweet 2 года назад
Why not combine both ideas and have a retro 1960s fantastic 4 adrift in the galaxy they are exploring. For Reed Richards to be impressive he really needs to have some really cool technology that's more advanced even in the alien technology we've seen, so it would make sense if he has been exposed to alien technology and learned from it. They could introduce them in the next Captain Marvel film.
@captainjefferies9047
@captainjefferies9047 Год назад
Make it 80's FF, with the kids. They could have been a super hero family from the 80's that people don't talk about much anymore. It makes since. The FF is usually fighting in space or in other dimensions.
@giftfromgod8204
@giftfromgod8204 2 года назад
Best breakdowns!🤓👍🏼🤜🏼🤛🏼
@juandirection3751
@juandirection3751 2 года назад
I gotta say, when there John Krasinski fancast first arrived, I didn't think he could portray intelligence, as most of his characters I know of aren't exactly scientists. But after watching MoM, I'd say he'd do a fantastic Reed Richards
@justinskywalker
@justinskywalker 2 года назад
I could see a F4 film doing something similar to Captain Marvel or Captain America in how they start the story in one time but then end it in present day. Steve gets frozen, and Danvers goes off to fight bad guys in other parts of the galaxy. With the first family it could be that they have been around the whole time but have been fighting threats from the quantum realm (Such as Kang) and we know from Scott that "time works differently in the quantum realm" and as such they've been trapped there for years (our time) but only really days (their time) Scenario two, which I think would also be very on brand, involves Reed creating some sort of light speed engine that malfunctions and leaves them flying away from earth at relativistic speeds that means that decades pass on earth while only a few weeks or even months pass for them on the ship. Maybe the ship and drive they built is related to the one that Mar-Vell was working on. Also, it could be that the malfunction they experience ties back to how they got their powers. Again similar to carols origin. Scenario 3 is they exist now, and get their powers in the present day through some freak accident
@Skyrocketpenguin
@Skyrocketpenguin 2 года назад
Those video got me really excited. I haven't been able to dream up a NARRATIVE reason why the FF should be in the MCU, and I like Ryan's idea a lot. They could be the first proactive characters who embrace the new world of aliens, gods, and magic. All MCU heros so far react to crises and save the day. The FF could instead explore the unlimited possibilities offered by this new era. No more, "The world is changing..." but instead. "Let's go change the world!"
@tommystevens7126
@tommystevens7126 2 года назад
I think they could be the next corner stone too and I hope they are since they can open us up to soooo much. I also think that John Krasinski could be a good motivating face for the MCU just like RDJ was.
@fahriandikadir5799
@fahriandikadir5799 2 года назад
At this point doctor strange kinda is the new face of the mcu
@stephenstrange6254
@stephenstrange6254 2 года назад
Reed Richards was a student of Hank Pym in Pymtech later working with Darren cross on the quantum realm but due to some accident the team gets trapped in the quantum realm and develop powers and living in one of those cities shown in ant man. Scott and hank pym will meet them and Darren cross(now as modok) and fight against kang.
@My2cents.
@My2cents. 2 года назад
One doesn’t experience self transcendence, the illusion of self only dissipates__🎈
@Oibble
@Oibble 2 года назад
COOL
@KidFresh71
@KidFresh71 2 года назад
When I was little, my dad's favorite comics were Fantastic 4 and Spider-Man. I grew up with them. I totally enjoy seeing these stories brought to the big screen in such dynamic fashion. Anyone who hates on superhero movies is just, well, a hater.
@DevlinDomini
@DevlinDomini 2 года назад
Good job on describing what I like about the FF and what makes them so great.
@acbennett7
@acbennett7 2 года назад
The edit with Jim and Dwight was beautiful.
@JDP-88
@JDP-88 2 года назад
The teams origin should see them working with SHIELD to unlock the powers of the Tesseract (just before Avengers 2012) Reed, Sue, Ben and Johnny are all working on replicating the device that Zola used in First Avenger. Their first device test is deemed a tragedy by SHIELD as the whole team disappears after the machine malfunctions during the test. However, it was a success and the four of them are transported to another dimension/universe. From here the team try in vain to recreate the device and travel back home, only to bounce from reality to reality. It’s during these trips through dozens of different universes they encounter Kang and become the inspiration for his own pursuit of multiverse travel. This origin will explain where they have been this whole time and justify Reed being so smart as he’s spend the last decade learning all there is to know from alien and future civilisations in an attempt to get his family home.
@Hawkcam1996
@Hawkcam1996 2 года назад
Honestly, I’d prefer your idea over the Quantum Realm “from the 60’s” idea. I don’t want The First Avenger all over again, the MCU is repetitive enough as it is.
@deddrz2549
@deddrz2549 2 года назад
Honestly, with how packed the cast of the MCU is, and the stories leading up to a multiverse war, they could have some of the MCU movies in the future be in a completely different universe, having the fantastic four and X-Men possibly not even interact with hardly any of the current MCU cast until the crossover event. Or any Other characters that would have been difficult to fit in current MCU for chronological reasons like Miles Morales
@zacharygill8722
@zacharygill8722 2 года назад
This has been out out days and this is just now (5 days later) popping up on my notifications saying you just released jt 2 hours ago lmao
@lindsaybodi1200
@lindsaybodi1200 2 года назад
That photo at 8:44 of Cap and Sam about to clash always sends shivers down my spine
@eliasscorsone4649
@eliasscorsone4649 2 года назад
Agreed on explorers: Lost in Space is the vibe. Trek is the vibe.
@darkstarplays6315
@darkstarplays6315 2 года назад
So, an Easter Egg can have all those meanings all at once and I love it and that you guys added all the meanings the could mean
@weirdguy59
@weirdguy59 2 года назад
If I were to pull the F4 into the MCU, I'd actually go for a variant coming into the MCU. That would allow the stranger in strange land gimmick again, but keep it fresh. Have them fight something/one other than Doom or Galactus, then end with them coming to the MCU and buying the old Avengers Tower area and make it the Baxter building or something. After credits have some sort of nod to Doom being interested in them and have Nathaniel find leftover Stark tech to potentially become Iron Lad.
@stopgenduh1690
@stopgenduh1690 Год назад
But Doctor Strange established that you can’t spend to long in another universe or it will destroy the universe
@captainjefferies9047
@captainjefferies9047 Год назад
@@stopgenduh1690 No. It established that Doctor Strange doesn't know how to do it. That doesn't mean Reed Richards couldn't figure it out. Doom certainly could.
@mageeaaron2624
@mageeaaron2624 2 года назад
10:38 My man!!!!!! 🙏🏽💪👏
@cacoethes1366
@cacoethes1366 2 года назад
I love John Krasinski but I really didn't want him to be Mr Fantastic. I think I'm fairly alone in that opinion though lol. I think there'd have been a riot if he didn't get the role. You raise a good point though about fan casting. I'm worried that fan casting is becoming too much of a thing to the point that huge groups are furious if their preferred fan casting didn't happen. I trust Marvel 's casting. Loads of people thought RDJ, Chris Evans and Chris Hemsworth were terrible choices when they were announced but now they're seen as perfect casting. It's great that fans are listened to but I think people need to stop pushing their fan casting so hard.
@kosdsd6524
@kosdsd6524 2 года назад
🤡
@proudbeanerii3810
@proudbeanerii3810 2 года назад
@@kosdsd6524 he's not wrong
@ohnobro1424
@ohnobro1424 2 года назад
Fancastings almost never work out though
@shlobs422
@shlobs422 2 года назад
!00% agree with you. Everytime I see him, I just see Jim cosplaying and expect Dwight to hop on screen as Thing.
@noni4535
@noni4535 Год назад
Again…the Krasinskis would be perfect in F4. Throw out fan casting & you have 2 ppl absolutely typecasted for RR & Sue. Why do ppl keep pidgeonholing John as ONLY Jim. It’s like only seeing Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow when he is such a diverse Actor. Move on already.
@roberthoyt4028
@roberthoyt4028 2 года назад
The teleportation Reed Richards uses and what the TVA use are similar because it was Reed who invented it and was then expanded upon centuries later by his descendent Nathanial Richards...who is Kang and He Who Remains.
@jaym.g.5789
@jaym.g.5789 2 года назад
FF can have traditional origin being in space when a gamma accident happens due to snap (Banner said energy of the stones were closest to gamma). A worm-hole gets created along with the explosion, and F4 gets sucked into worm hole (Quantum realm) as they are being dusted. When Hulk reverse-snap, F4 returns but in Quantum realm. Movie not only is with them dealing with their new powers/appearance, but also exploring the QR before they eventually make their way back (due to Ant-man? Marvels? GotG3? those are three movies slated to release before FF). That way, when they return to Earth-616 to meet other heroes/villains, they are already full-fledged F4. Meanwhile, Victor was on Earth when the blip happens. Goes into full-on Dark Tony Stark mode (army of robotos to protect the Earth), and starts to build his city (which was already established in TFAWS when small cities/resistance areas were rising post-blip to start their own government/rule) and begins his Dr. Doom journey.
@scottmacleod2944
@scottmacleod2944 2 года назад
I'm hopeful he'll play Mr Fantastic when we get a fantastic four movie since we didn't get different actors like Tom Cruise playing Tony Stark. We got a different captain marvel but she was playing her character not Carol Danvers. No matter what tho I'm super excited and can't wait to see what they do with fantastic four in the MCU
@Omar-cm5pb
@Omar-cm5pb 2 года назад
Besides Adam warlock when has marvel ever introduced or talked about a character and never brought them up again? But even with that one example I gave Adam will show up soon, soo
@phoule76
@phoule76 2 года назад
I've actually been to Latveria. It's retro.
@adenkirby8844
@adenkirby8844 2 года назад
It was noted in the video that Reed Richards in Doctor Strange 2 has teleportation technology similar to that of He Who Remains from Loki. It was also pointed out that He Who Remains is related to Reed, and that He Who Remains is a descendant of Reed. But I could see this playing out that He Who Remains is a VARIANT of both Reed and Kang.
@drasvader1
@drasvader1 2 года назад
He was insinuating that they were a band in the 60s
@avidityrar
@avidityrar 2 года назад
Was such a good video, then I heard your pronunciation of Valeria Richards and nope. Up until then it was a really good video!
@thequiet5727
@thequiet5727 2 года назад
I hope Krasinski is the main mcu Reed Richards
@CarltonPhillupBanx
@CarltonPhillupBanx 2 года назад
@ 2:17 What if The Fantastic 4 accidentally traveled back in time from the 1960s to the Egyptian time where Khonshu was at war with Kang and a certain mutant rebel conqueror who goes by the name of En Sabah Nur aka Apocalypse, who was a former servant of Khonshu but then bargained a new deal with the Celestials to gain his new powers and now has beef with Khonshu and Kang who is disguising himself as Rama-Tut. You could also add the time traveling mutant Cable and a former Wakanda King during the Egyptian reign, into the mix.
@keithrhodes5912
@keithrhodes5912 2 года назад
Seeing how I haven't seen Dr. Strange 2 yet, It would be interesting if they do it the way spider-man was done... but since we have a variant of Reed Richards, which means they could be involved in Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumanium which then leads into their own movie. But It would have been better if they were involved in the Infinity War or at least mentioned or a wink.
@samgreen387
@samgreen387 2 года назад
The idea of watching them explore the multiverse or even just 616 would be an unreal perspective for the MCU.
@twistedknickers
@twistedknickers 2 года назад
Yah a Marvel Video with out the " its the Bees" clip. Nice job Ryan
@sowcntnt
@sowcntnt 2 года назад
i like this!
@BfDelano
@BfDelano 2 года назад
Rainn Wilson as Dr Doom. "Identity theft is not a joke Reed!"
@randymarshusa2928
@randymarshusa2928 2 года назад
Rain Wilson would be great as Modok
@BfDelano
@BfDelano 2 года назад
@@randymarshusa2928 I'd be fine with that. If what I read is true, had they used Paul Rudd's concept for the next Ant Man movie, we would have seen AIM and Modok.
@PopCultureFunMY
@PopCultureFunMY 2 года назад
Wow! That 'stranded' / 'Cast Away' idea sounds awesome!! Whether out-of-time or 'lost in space' or quantum realm would be cool for me!! As long as they are done properly. I hope it won't be Kransinski and Blunt though as Reed & Sue. I'm feeling for an actor with a stronger jaw look and one that can play multiple Reeds convincingly too :D Tall order but in Sarah Hayley Finn - I TRUST!! 😄
@noni4535
@noni4535 Год назад
100% disagree. The Krasinskis would be perfect as Reed & Sue. They have chemistry both on & off screen. Plus, John has “the look” for sure.
@BruceNewhouse
@BruceNewhouse 2 года назад
I would have them as part of their own parallel earth, separate from any seen prior. I would open with Dr Doom invading the TVA, downloading their computer files and collecting technology & artifacts. The TVA seeks out the Fantastic Four, Doom’s natural antagonists, to restore order. Loki could call up Avengers, Kang could call up X-men and Sophie could up others. An all out battle for control of the TVA would ensure.
@michaeldatuin15
@michaeldatuin15 Год назад
Reed: john krasinski Sue: emily blunt Johnny: dacre montgomery Ben: seth rogen
@emerje0
@emerje0 2 года назад
They should have been doing a slow background build over time, and maybe there's still time. They aren't mutants so there's no need for a drastic introduction or time displacement. They can have TV in the background on National Geographic talking about gamma rays in space on Mrs. Marvel, linger on a newspaper headline about an experimental space study lead by top scientist Reed Richards in Wakanda Forever, and then a news special report about a shuttle incident involving the so called "Fantastic 4" in Quantumania. There are more organic ways of introducing new characters than just a ham fisted introduction in a single movie.
@evanrafael844
@evanrafael844 2 года назад
I think you should do a video explaining the relationship between fantastic 4 and dr. Doom would be cool😁
@amalbinmahfooz8097
@amalbinmahfooz8097 2 года назад
Since Reed is basically a descendant of kang the conqueror in the comics and is related to him, what if the mcu might do their own take by making Reed a variant of Kang the conqueror/he who remains but only the fact that reed is a hero. Plus, he who remains explained his origin in loki which was similar to kang's/reed's origin in the comics and this might be shown in more detail later in the mcu
@n1hondude
@n1hondude 2 года назад
OMG a space exploration movie!! I hadn't thought of that, I'm not a reader so I don't know anything about the F4... They could just have a line drop how they were in the quantum realm or something and be set in space :D
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley 2 года назад
My lifetime love of the Fantastic Four is disturbing. The fun quotient of The Incredibles and Brady Bunch (!) movies makes me excited for the '60s take. But I trust Fiege, so I'll just wait and be deliriously happy with what I get :)
@adrianguzman4987
@adrianguzman4987 2 года назад
Say what u say about the previous fantastic four movies they are great
@rgorskic
@rgorskic 2 года назад
Glad I saw the movie last wednesday and did not get the spoiler about Krasinski in the movie in this thumbnail. I know the movie has released almost 2 weeks now but there are people that did not get to see yet. : (
@wisdomadingo2844
@wisdomadingo2844 2 года назад
I had a fantanstic 4 game as a kid which was the first game I played overnight
@daneo617
@daneo617 Год назад
We'd be lucky to get J.Q for Reed but if we do then you can count out Emily Blunt, the way their film life works is 1 of them films while the other is home E. B made this clear after their last collaboration I doubt we'll see her 🤷🏻‍♂️
@thecastaways2
@thecastaways2 2 года назад
I think it would be interesting. Like how there might be no Vision in any other universe for Wanda, maybe no other universe has a Dr. Doom except the 616 one, so when 616 and another universe collide and merge, Billy and Tommy become real, but so does Franklin Richards and the fantastic 4. They come into conflict with Doom before he even becomes Dr. Doom in 616, maybe Franklin and the fantastic 4 arrive as teens, and same goes for Dr. Doom, maybe doom is a younger threat and the team is younger as well, which could create a very interesting dynamic between the Fantastic 4 and the new Young Avengers in the MCU.
@oliveracuna8255
@oliveracuna8255 2 года назад
nice
@MisterBrimm
@MisterBrimm 2 года назад
I'm glad fans have come to understand just how vital to the Marvel universe the FF are. They are the first family, forever and always. They are pure Stan and Jack magic, never let that flame die.
@CamiloVM13
@CamiloVM13 2 года назад
I think you would be an awesome Reed Richards variant!
@imkluu
@imkluu 2 года назад
As for the FF in the MCU. I think the best way to handle the FF is to have them be an episodic series that then also makes cameos or takes part in the Movies. The FF really needs the episodic series time to develop their family dynamic and reach into the deep back story of their adventurous exploits and the villains they have dealt with, which many times are deeply connected to them and their history. I think it would be great to have them arrive back on Earth after having been on a deep space travel adventure which started back int eh 1960's. Due to time compression the experienced while they were space traveling, they were only gone for a few weeks but when they get back 60 years have gone by on Earth. This lets them be as they were during the 1960's and have anachronistic behavior, needing to catch up to today's world. They will also be suddenly very much more wealthy than when they left because the inventions that Reed had built for the FF to use were sold after their presumed deaths, and once they are back they are able to reclaim the rights to them and get billions of dollars for the licensing and such. some of them would be the Laptop computer, Cell phones, parts of the internet. This would also be a tie in with She-Hulk, who has been a member of the FF at times, to be their lawyer helping them to procure their lost rights and ownership. The first season could be their origin and first encounters with some of the villains and troubles they had back in the 1960's. There could be one long story arch with some other smaller side plots in each season. Each season could be one of the early major FF story lines, and a couple side plots. After a couple seasons then integrate them into the Main MCU. Them returning to warn about the coming of Galactus on the trail of the Silver Surfer with a back flash story of the first visit by Galactus, and how they managed to get him to leave Earth, would be a good intro to the MCU. Alice Eve Should be cast as Sue Storm. I don't have a Johnny Storm choice, but I think he should be the same ethnicity as Sue. I think Ben Grim would be great if played by a Black actor. Ben Grim's history and background much better fits that of a black man who worked himself out of the ghettos of NYC to become a fighter pilot, and an astronaut. I believe her name is pronounced Va-Lair-E-Uh
@jimmymcmanus9467
@jimmymcmanus9467 Год назад
Pretty good video I guess
@1shop738
@1shop738 2 года назад
I think we will see them or get a hint of them in the quantamania movie.
@ricknick5318
@ricknick5318 Год назад
I like that storyline from that cartoon that you just showed where Ben was just invulnerable and super strong until Reed tried to get rid of their powers and tested it on him first it turned him into the thing that's a lot better than him being the only one that turned ugly From The Storm it made more sense too
@tfoxx17
@tfoxx17 2 года назад
I would have LOOOVED to see Reed’s 1960s F4 vision. Would have been so cool and different.
@dominoeffexx4416
@dominoeffexx4416 2 года назад
Anybody know which number Fantastic Four Graphic Novel this underwater scene is from🤔
@ArinJager1
@ArinJager1 Год назад
so, _lost in space_ meets _fantastic four_ ? _cool!_ (oh, and if they really do F4, they should do Power Pack, too - very good, but very underrated, imho)
@PPsqueezer
@PPsqueezer 2 года назад
Having the F4 assumed to be lost in space/dead after a freak accident, but then somehow arriving back on earth with powers would easily work getting them into the MCU. They could tie it with Howard Stark maybe assisting Reed Richards with the rocket they use, to give us a little connection to characters we know and love.
@yderga8707
@yderga8707 2 года назад
I like the idea of FF being from another reality drawn to 616 by some crazy multiversal event. Same thing goes for Xmen (although I feel the fox Xmen characters could easily be brought back in) I thought that DS2 would pull a reverse house of M with wanda trying to bring back her kids by bringing mutants into 616 same way DS inadvertently drew in spiderman characters into 616.
@Kansom333
@Kansom333 2 года назад
What i am thinking and that is my thought tho. That the movie might be based on another universe align to our own. Then later when ours and theirs start to collide, Reed instead of destroying one universe or the other... He will merge both and you can see the timeline changed a bit. Like in New York you see them. Or on civil war where you see it be bigger with some mutants and the fantastic 4. Then in Endgame you see them and see mutants in there too.. These obviously happens as flashbacks sort off showing stuff... I don't know, i think it would be fun
@justjimmy2024
@justjimmy2024 2 года назад
I like to think of his appearance in the movie as a screen test. We can still get him as reed Richard’s from another earth
@johnspence8141
@johnspence8141 2 года назад
7:07 I have not seen this scene, can someone tell me what show it is from and what is going on here?
@NSPiermaster
@NSPiermaster Год назад
The actor Jay Harrington that plays Deacon in hte series SWAT would make a great Mr. Fantastic!
@macstancil2455
@macstancil2455 2 года назад
This has nothing to do with the fantastic four but i rewatched Loki and got to thinking does the TVA deal with anything off earth like I know the whole purpose was to keep other kangs from being created but wouldn’t at least some off world stuff cause that as well
@madtitan0825
@madtitan0825 2 года назад
Oh yeah, they arrested a Skrull in episode 1, also remember they arrested Sylvia when she’s a kid on Asgard which is very off earth
@Sahel0001
@Sahel0001 2 года назад
I think that will be a pretty standard origin story within main mcu univers (616). They already bought the tower from Tony Stark will do their stuff up until the moment they will go to space and receive their powers. In terms of the same actor playing two diffrent variants of the same character is no problem. There is no need to overcomplicate the story in which they are already in the mcu but somehow they did not show up..
@Jza_Dragon
@Jza_Dragon 2 года назад
Gah, this has me so hype for FF. Can't wait to share this to my sons.
@LYRADdl
@LYRADdl 2 года назад
Here's my fancast Krasinski and Blunt are a given for Reed and Sue no doubt. Zac Efron or Dacre Montgomrey for Johnny. Now for Ben/Thing i've always wanted David Harbour. I know he's Red Guardian, but if Gemma Chan and Mchelle Yeoh can play two characters so can Harbour, but alternatives would be either Liev Schreiber, Jason Segel or Jesse Plemons. As for Doom i would love GOT's Nikolaj Waldau or LOTR's Viggo Mortensen.
@acifuat
@acifuat 2 года назад
You are absolutely right about this being a science fiction movie. We need solid theories and scientific background with f4. After all mcu fans back in the day are getting older. Teens of that era are more capablenof understanding things and mid-age people of the same era will start to get bored of the same type of movies.
@nsdkido
@nsdkido 2 года назад
they should use the multiverse bring all the past movie iterations of F4 - with Chris Evans making a short cameo as Johnny Storm.
@chrislister570
@chrislister570 2 года назад
Problem with adapting FF to movies is that, as a monthly comic, they had the time to go on crazy adventures on Earth and space and the Microverse and the Negative Zone while also having plenty of time to fight Doctor Doom and the Mole Man. We can only get a new movie every 3 or 4 years, so they can only focus on one aspect or the other .
@JohnSmith-pe6wo
@JohnSmith-pe6wo Год назад
If they were to be inhabitants of the MCU, it would make far more sense to use the Ultimate Marvel version of them because using the normal versions this late in development wouldnt be right. Plus the whole thing going on in MCU now about bringing any younger Heroes. And if the executives don't meddle too much, you could get some real juice out of Ben suicidal depression, as long as it's not being done as to send the message to people
@masterpig5s
@masterpig5s 2 года назад
It’s be nice to get the Spider-Man treatment. In the sense of look at what has already been done, don’t repeat etc. Skip the origin, media res maybe, have the origin eluded to through a counselling scene or two. Stuff like that.
@RegularRegs
@RegularRegs 2 года назад
broooo this is probably going to happen. the 60s version. thats a great idea
@malik6091
@malik6091 2 года назад
I like both the 60s theory and your theory but I honestly don’t care how they bring them in, I’m just glad they’re coming 😂
@kazuha74
@kazuha74 2 года назад
they could stick with the Reed we already saw sense they were probably brought back to life thanks to Baron Mordo sense they still have the time stone (Thanos lost in that universe and if you notice his gauntlet is missing the timestone)
@saboorheath7769
@saboorheath7769 Год назад
With Marvel digging deeper into Cosmic.... you need a FF around as the eyes/ears of the MCU. A S.W.O.R.D sponsored exploration team that becomes public after a mishap. A 5-6 episode annual series on Disney+ in between cameos by individual members could work.
@CarlosCruz-ox9wc
@CarlosCruz-ox9wc 2 года назад
The Fantastic Four could be the astronauts that sword lost contact with that are mentioned in Wandavision
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