How the Governing Body Invalidates Baptism to Control You! 

Wonderful! I love to hear accounts like that. Thank you.

Can you describe how you felt the holy Spirit? I'm very curious about that

@@asapstan The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God. Romans 8:23,26

@@mamajan99 thanks for the reply.but it doesn't really answer my question.I guess what I'm asking is do you actually feel anything? Physically? Or is it a feeling of euphoria or a rush of calmness.some people described a burning sensation in the chest.

@@asapstan God's Word answers, "The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God." Romans 8:23,26

@kariberger4978 It's never too late, because the Father knows us and knows when we are ready and so he has guided us all along, though we never realized it at the time.

💃💃💃💃💃it's never too late my dear to come to Christ,you are welcome in the family of love,Jesus is the truth not any religion but Him alone

Yes, looking back I can see that being baptized was actually a sacrifice to the ‘authority’ of the Watchtower sadly disguised as a commitment to God. It is so blasphemous!

What a devious scam.

“Spirit directed organization” In other words, a business contract to sell magazines and help build their real estate empire.

@@deanpixx They don’t even say “spirit directed” any longer. It’s simply “in association with Jehovah’s Organization.”

Excellent, excellent points

You're most welcome.

Thank you so much, @akatheheretic.

Yes, thank you!

Then they sell them all to Christendom

Many of those "Dedicated" Halls (which I freely helped build and contributed to), are now Marijuana Dispensaries and New Age Churches, and who knows what else. Some "dedication" to Jehovah...

@@mamajan99 Exactly. I was about to write similarly 👍

@@mamajan99 O yes! Those charlatans keep shooting themselves on the feet with their obnoxious cult terms.

The Eunich was reading the scriptures when Philip came buy. Philip said nothing about reading a WT book for 6 months before getting baptised. He went under at the very first body of water they came to! The same with Silas and Paul's Jailer. He and his entire household were baptised that night. Acts 16:33 Religion is still "a trap and a snare!" Get out of her My people!!!

@@mamajan99 my thoughts exactly 💯

A good way to start over is to talk with others who are going through the same thing you are going through. You can find us every week starting the Bible together online. HTTPS://Beroeans.net/events/

@@BeroeanPickets You are correct, when you leave you have to find a support group as the WT leaves you destitute. I will have to join in on this, thank you!

@@Cfalconeri You won't regret it.

Non è facile. Io dopo 40 anni ho capito che c era troppo uomo e niente Dio. Ho smesso in 15gg. ...poi ho scoperto tutto e mi sono ritrovata sola,..sai com'è...ma Dio e Cristo meritavano la mia lealtà! Non questi massoni satanisti! Ti rifarai nuove amicizie. Il mondo è pieno di brave persone❤ un abbraccio

Thank you, so much, but I'm just doing what is my duty to do. (Luke 17:9, 10 ESV)

I would never subject my children to that again. Parents should teach their children about our Heavenly Father and Christ without the Pharisees" constant, hypocritical judgement and nit picking.

Thank you, Kimberly. You're so kind to say that.

A lot of what goes on with the traditional wedding (North America) is rooted in paganism.

God set up nations, boundaries and govt. .making a vow to God I ve done in Court. You r a legalist..Matt is to jews. Btw you swear not to lie.

@jackiepowell7513 '...Do not go beyond what is written...' -1st Corinthians 4:6 "Let what you say be simply 'Yes' or 'No'; anything more than this comes from evil". -Matthew 5:37 You are not arguing against me but against scripture.

It's true that God set up nations and governments and we should obey those who are leader but if they say we should do what is agaisnt God we should not obey,in anything God comes first we can't compromise Christ.

Thank you so much Rud. I hope you and Birgit are well.

You are so welcome!

I’m sorry, but you went from one cult to another.

@@deanpixx when I asked God for forgiveness and next day I was full of Holy Spirit, I didn’t even know if God has a real church on earth, it was the Holy Spirit that guided me to the Seventh Day Adventist church, 2 things convinced me, keeping the sabbath and preaching the second coming of Jesus Christ, Christ in the sanctuary and the Bible being our only guide, like I said I’m closer to God than I ever was being a witness, I bought a new Bible too, and in prayer I can feel the Holy Spirit, that’s my testimony, theirs only one truth and the sabbath is the mark of God. So I don’t agree with you saying from one cult to another, jw’s is a cult, not SDA!!

Jesus is our Sabbath. The Holy Spirit put you there for a reason. Rest in HIm. No condemnation for those who are in Christ. Keep the oil in your lamps until that day. The bride is getting ready! 💪🔥

Christians have no need to keep the Sabbath. SDA and Mark Martin are mistaken in this teaching.

@@vintage6346 Catholic Church changed the day of the Lord Sabbath for Sunday in 325 ac. The 4 commandment is the longest and the one God said remember it because I blessed it and sanctified it, Jesus said he was the lord of the Sabbath, I’m certain that God hasn’t changed his mind

Thanks, will do!

God aka ho logos, Jesus wld know u were in a cult. First john 1: 9 then rebound.

Thank you so much for that wonderful find and for exposing the dishonestly of Watch Tower scholarship.

Yes indeed!

I'm amazed that the elder actually said that. So, at least some of them knew the "scam" from the "get go". Satan must be laughing when he watches the JW baptisms.

@@vintage6346 Maybe satan is laughing, but God sees the heart and will have the last saying. And yes, it was surprising that the elder said that. Pretty honest 😂

@@pije23 A "Freudian slip"?

@@vintage6346 Quite possible- It's a pity that we can't have flashbacks as in movies, I would have be able to listen again. But ... no better not 😂

@marchascott3498 You could check out our online bible study at beroeans.net/events/. Perhaps you'd be able to find someone nearby your area who could do the baptism.

Welcome

I appreciate that

Excellent point!

The scripture is not discussed because they aren’t baptized into Christ.

Thank you. I can only heart your comment once, so here are some extras. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@@BeroeanPickets Thanks brother E. You made my day!

In John 3, Jesus uses the phrase “born of water” in answer to Nicodemus’s question about how to enter the kingdom of heaven. He told Nicodemus that he “must be born again” (John 3:3). Nicodemus questioned how such a thing could happen when he was a grown man. Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit” (John 3:5).

@@mamajan99 Yup. Born of the Spirit.

Are you saying that if bad things are said about you, you must be doing what is right? In that case, I'm on solid ground because Witnesses say all kinds of bad things about me.

There is no painless way to exit. You can fade away, but if you do, your family and friends will shun you anyway. You can formerly resign, but that just results in a stronger, quicker shunning. If you want to show love for all those you know in the Organization, write them all a letter explaining what you now know to be true. Essentially, preach to them as they do when they go door-to-door. You'll still end up being shunned, but you'll have a clear conscience. And when the fecal matter hits the ventilation device, as it inevitably will at some future point, no one will be able say to you, "You knew all along this was all false and never told me?"

Thx but i mean by law quite with them

@tonywalker5538 Always nice to quote what you cite. Here it is: "But Jesus remained silent. And the high priest said to him, “I adjure you by the living God, tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God.” Jesus said to him, “You have said so. But I tell you, from now on you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of heaven.” (Matthew 26:63, 64 ESV) Are you asking because you think Jesus was speaking literally? That the High Priest would literally see Jesus sitting at the right hand of God, as Stephen did when he was being stoned?

Thanks for your answer Eric Sorry I should of be more precise...here Jesus answers under Oath when asked by the high priest if he was God's son What's your thoughts on him answering when put under Oath? I think in writing out my question for you I have got the answer Eric lol He's merely responding to ,not taking the Oath 😊 If you feel you can add to this I would appreciate your comment, thanks and love your work Eric 😊

@@tonywalker5538 You've got it right. ❤❤

Thanks for bringing that to our attention. It is now visible on Biblehub.com

@VitaliyII Главное, чтобы вы крестились во имя Господа нашего Иисуса. Все, что вам действительно нужно, - это водоем и кто-то, кто опустит вас в него и поднимет. Поскольку вы живете на острове, думаю, найти место, где вода достаточно спокойна, чтобы можно было креститься, не составит труда. Если вы не можете найти единоверца в Иисуса, то, возможно, за вас это сделает друг.

@@BeroeanPickets Эрик, я с огромным трудом выхожу из дома один раз в один месяц, чтобы сходить в ближайший магазин за едой (в моём городе нет доставки). Вследствие болезни я стал ненужным никому - меня покинули жена и ещё 11 близких людей. Совсем просто говоря, у меня нет ни водоёма, ни друга. Можете представить Робинзона Крузо до появления Пятницы? Если да, то Вы представили меня. 🤷‍♂️🙂 И ещё… Эрик, пожалуйста, очень Вас прошу, сделайте отдельное видео, полностью посвящённое крещению. Пожалуйста, внесите в эту тему полную ясность. Как вижу, это очень важно не только для меня. ☝️🙂 Eric, I have a hard time leaving the house once every month to go to the nearest store for food (there is no delivery in my city). Due to illness, I became unnecessary to anyone - my wife and 11 other close people left me. To put it simply, I have neither a body of water nor a friend. Can you imagine Robinson Crusoe before Friday? If yes, then you introduced me. 🤷‍♂️🙂 And one more thing... Eric, please, I beg you, make a separate video entirely dedicated to baptism. Please bring complete clarity to this topic. As I see, this is very important not only for me. ☝️🙂 --

@BeroeanPickets Эрик, я с огромным трудом выхожу из дома один раз в один месяц, чтобы сходить в ближайший магазин за едой (в моём городе нет доставки). Вследствие болезни я стал ненужным никому - меня покинули жена и ещё 11 близких людей. Совсем просто говоря, у меня нет ни водоёма, ни друга. Можете представить Робинзона Крузо до появления Пятницы? Если да, то Вы представили меня. 🤷‍♂️🙂 И ещё… Эрик, пожалуйста, очень Вас прошу, сделайте отдельное видео, полностью посвящённое крещению. Пожалуйста, внесите в эту тему полную ясность. Как вижу, это очень важно не только для меня. ☝️🙂 Eric, I have a hard time leaving the house once every month to go to the nearest store for food (there is no delivery in my city). Due to illness, I became unnecessary to anyone - my wife and 11 other close people left me. To put it simply, I have neither a body of water nor a friend. Can you imagine Robinson Crusoe before Friday? If yes, then you introduced me. 🤷‍♂️🙂 And one more thing... Eric, please, I beg you, make a separate video entirely dedicated to baptism. Please bring complete clarity to this topic. As I see, this is very important not only for me. ☝️🙂 --

@@BeroeanPickets Эрик, я с огромным трудом выхожу из дома один раз в один месяц, чтобы сходить в ближайший магазин за едой (в моём городе нет доставки). Вследствие болезни я стал ненужным никому - меня покинули жена и ещё 11 близких людей. Совсем просто говоря, у меня нет ни водоёма, ни друга. Можете представить Робинзона Крузо до появления Пятницы? Если да, то Вы представили меня. 🤷‍♂️🙂 И ещё… Эрик, пожалуйста, очень Вас прошу, сделайте отдельное видео, полностью посвящённое крещению. Пожалуйста, внесите в эту тему полную ясность. Как вижу, это очень важно не только для меня. ☝️🙂 --

@@BeroeanPickets Eric, I have a hard time leaving the house once every month to go to the nearest store for food (there is no delivery in my city). Due to illness, I became unnecessary to anyone - my wife and 11 other close people left me. To put it simply, I have neither a body of water nor a friend. Can you imagine Robinson Crusoe before Friday? If yes, then you introduced me. 🤷‍♂️🙂 And one more thing... Eric, please, I beg you, make a separate video entirely dedicated to baptism. Please bring complete clarity to this topic. As I see, this is very important not only for me. ☝️🙂 --

Good points!

Благодаря ви и ви желая всичко най-добро.

@@BeroeanPickets 🙂🤝🤗 Эрик, мне можно писать по-английски. Будьте добры, пожалуйста, очень прошу Вас, прочитайте моё письмо здесь рядом. 🙂 Eric, you can write to me in English. Please, please, I beg you, read my letter here next. 🙂 --

​@@VitaliyII Vitaliyll, Я думаю, тебе следует держать в секрете свое точное местонахождение. Не публикуйте свое местоположение здесь публично. В мире много мошенничества. Но тебе следует написать Эрику по электронной почте. Адрес электронной почты Эрика указан в описании к этому видео. Программное обеспечение не позволит мне опубликовать его адрес электронной почты здесь, в моем комментарии. Сообщите Эрику свое местоположение. В будущем, по молитве, возможно, кто-то сможет прийти к вам на крещение. Vitaliyll, I think that you should keep your exact location a secret. Do not post your location here publicly. There is much fraud in the world. But you should email Eric. Eric's email address is in the description of this video. The software won't allow me to post his email address here in my comment. Tell Eric your location. In the future, with prayer, someone may be able to visit you for baptism.

I don’t believe I ever suggested that water baptism is not necessary. Why would you not want to be baptized?

@@BeroeanPickets I’m sorry. I thought that’s what I was hearing. That’s why I questioned it. It was at 8:33 where I felt you were stating that.

I don’t Think baptism is necessary for salvation. Baptism = work. No work can save us. The thief on the cross was not baptised. But offcourse we SHOULD get baptised as a symbol of our faith in Christ and that we have been born of the spirit.

@@JKV84 I agree that if baptism is not possible--for instance, because we're nailed to a cross or some such--then we can still be saved. But if the reason you're not getting baptized is because you think God has already poured out his spirit on you so that you can be born again without taking the step of baptism, then you're ignoring what the Bible says. Baptism is necessary for our salvation based on what Peter says. “. . .Baptism, which corresponds to this, is also now saving you (not by the removing of the filth of the flesh, but by the request to God for a good conscience), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ. . .” (1 Peter 3:21)

@@BeroeanPickets i respectfully disagree brother. It says it right there in the verse you quoted. “Not by the removing of the filth of the flesh but by the request to God for a good concience”. No work can save us. Christ has done it all. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5-IOSK5jWd4.htmlsi=PRFLX2ZeiOhFCiFI But would love your take on salvation and what it requires. I am open to be corrected.

A good point about the affect of passing on partaking of the emblems.

All you need is a body of water and a person to perform the baptism. Ideally, it should be someone who believes in Jesus Christ, but in the absence of anyone like that, just a good friend, whom you can trust.

@@BeroeanPickets Ok, I will do that. Thx. I did believe all the right stuff at my JW B. but I think its important that to do the baptism according to my growing knowledge.

@@BeroeanPickets Thank you, I will consider that. (my husband is a Christian)

But Abraham was not a Christian. Jesus had not yet opened the way for the adoption of humans as God's Children. Now things are different. The Org loves to quote James 2:23 but how often do you see John 1:12, 13 applied to the other sheep. “However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to become God’s children, because they were exercising faith in his name. And they were born, not from blood or from a fleshly will or from man’s will, but from God.” (John 1:12, 13)

Water logged?

@@mamajan99 the Bible doesn’t cover double dipping ……?????!!!!!! Jesus didn’t have to get baptized but did anyway maybe for another reason

@@albertafine9445 Jesus replied, “Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness.” Then John consented. Matthew 3:15 Jesus was then born again, now of water and spirit just as we are. Now Jesus' was CHRIST (Anointed) His spiritual mother was "The Jerusalem above, our mother." Likewise for His followers, we are born again of water and spirit' from the same womb (adelphos), heavenly Jerusalem our mother, as is Jesus Christ. Gal 4:26

@@mamajan99 got baptized over 50 years ago before they made baptism corporate.

I've seen this phenonmena and it baffles me. That the trinity is a false doctrine was one of the few worthwhile things taught by Watchtower. Smh. How can exjws be so gullible as to now extoll the Trinity doctrine?

And sadly others leave with a bitterness towards God and lose all faith! Mt 23:15: “Woe to you, hypocrites, because you travel over sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a convert, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are."

It amazes me how many exjws have adopted a belief in the Trinity doctrine. Had they never thought about this doctrine when they were active JWs? Watchtower finally got something "right" and that's what exjws reject. Smh.

Yes, many exjws have accepted the Trinity doctrine. It's bizzarre that they do this.

@@mamajan99 Very true

Jesus never told us to go from door to door. That's a misinterpretation from the mind of J. F. Rutherford. For a consideration of what the texts he used really mean, please check out this three-part series of articles: beroeans.net/category/door-to-door-ministry/

@@BeroeanPickets So Mathew 28:19,20 is wrong.

@BeroeanPickets just asking because it is hard for me to believe being a witness.

@@carnivorelife152 2001translation.org/notes/matthew28-19 There's nothing wrong about making disciples. However, the Witness idea that only by going from door-to-door can we obey Jesus is based on false reasoning.

​@BeroeanPickets So what about James 2:23 where it says Abraham was called Jehovahs friend help me understand that.

@isaacmarshmallow8751 • There is no conflict and we don't have to read a book to figure that out. Let's read Matthew 23:16-22. (By the way, it is always helpful to quote texts rather than just cite them when you are making an argument.) “Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.’ 17 You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18 You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.’ 19 You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20 Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21 And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22 And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it. (Matthew 23:16-22 NIV) It is obvious from even a single read that Jesus is not advocating making vows or swearing oaths. Rather, he is showing the foolishness of these blind guides that even when they are doing something wrong, they can't even get their internal logic right. He's mocking their reasoning by showing that even if it were true, they are still doing it wrong. Notice that he starts out with the words: "You say". He's showing with those words that it is their rules, not his, which he is discussing.

@@BeroeanPickets Based on your response, I can say for DEFINITE, that you need to read the book, or at least listen to the lecture. And as I said the book is short, taking a couple of hours at most. I say for DEFINITE because your response spouts ignorance of several facts. You are a teacher in a public space. It is your responsibility to keep up to date when new information is pointed out to you. If Jesus is against vows of any kind, what about marriage vows? What about Nazarite vows that Paul was happy to go along with? Was he proclaiming to his Jewish audience that Numbers 30:2 was no longer valid? Certainly if Jesus had been teaching his followers against God's law, then the religious leaders would have had valid reason to be concerned about him. Jesus would have been teaching contrary to his own words just prior at Matthew 5:19 in that case. If you're not open to correction/ suggestions when you're teaching an incorrect thing, if you think you already know everything, if you aren't interested in learning, if you are more interested in misinterpreting a scripture to your own agendas than you are in seeking truth, suit yourself. Your loss.

It isn't my teaching nor understanding, but that which comes from our Lord. If God says Yes, then it is Yes. He can never go back on his word. If he swears an oath, it is not because he needs to, is it? “. . .For when God made his promise to Abraham, since he could not swear by anyone greater, he swore by himself, saying: “I will surely bless you and I will surely multiply you.” So after Abraham had shown patience, he obtained this promise. For men swear by someone greater, and their oath is the end of every dispute, since it is a legal guarantee to them. In this same way, when God decided to demonstrate more clearly to the heirs of the promise the unchangeableness of his purpose, he guaranteed it with an oath, in order that through TWO UNCHANGEABLE THINGS in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to the refuge may have strong encouragement to take firm hold of the hope set before us.” (Hebrews 6:13-18) What are the "TWO UNCHANGEABLE THINGS"? God's promise and God's oath. His promise to Abraham was all that was needed, but he new our weak human character would need a little more, so he also issued a legally binding oath. He did that for us, not because he needed to. Jesus' words regarding making oaths must be taken within the historical context. He was not making a blanket condemnation of the act of swearing an oath, no matter who does it or under what context. If you are in court and are required to swear under oath that you will tell only the truth, you would not be in a circumstance such as Jesus is addressing, would you? But, to swear an oath of dedication to Jehovah God and then symbolize that oath by water baptism is clearly doing something God does not require nor ask for, and it perverts the true meaning of baptism as clearly explained in 1 Peter chapter 3. So that is undoubtedly covered within Jesus' condemnation of making vows because we can see from the result that the "vow of dedication" comes from the wicked one.

@Thecrazygamer2 BeroeanPickets said: "Jesus' words regarding making oaths must be taken within the historical context. He was not making a blanket condemnation of the act of swearing an oath, no matter who does it or under what context. If you are in court and are required to swear under oath that you will tell only the truth, you would not be in a circumstance such as Jesus is addressing, would you?" I agree with this point. Some of that context is helpful because it allows us to consider the state of things back at that time when Jesus was addressing those religious leaders, and how they had 'changed' what belonged to God, by means of many, many of their own traditions. These included 'short-cuts', cop-out clauses, that would allow for them to renege on oaths they had made; they cheapened the importance, the value and seriousness of an oath. Their self-imposed traditions gave them various ways out of obligation. By the time Jesus arrived, these religious leaders had strayed far away from the spirit of the law of God. They had added so much more, unnecessary extras, that it weighed heavy on the people in general. These were invalidating Gods ways; and Jesus saw all this first hand. In Matthew 5:34-36, we are given a clue as to how easy, off-the-cuff, oath-making had become; for they were swearing (making an oath) by means of many different things, as if this would add some weight to their frivilous promises; things such as 'by heaven, 'by earth', 'by Jerusalem', and by their own 'heads'. Today, people do something very similar, don't they; they may say things like: "Hand on heart, I swear by my.....( eg a close relatives) ...life." Then how often, that that 'sworn oath' proved to be worthless. Oaths are only as good as the one making the oath. And within the nation of Israel, it appears that there was very little, if any value, on oaths being made. And so Jesus let them know. "But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: *either by heaven, for it is God’s throne* ; *or by the earth, for it is his footstool* ; *or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King* . And do not swear *by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black* . All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one." Matthew 5:34-37 "Anything beyond this.....", their frivolous oath-making, which had 'cheapened' the serious matter of an oath, "...comes from the evil one." Their oaths were without substance; they had drifted so far from the seriousness and importance placed on an oath, by God Similarly, the Jews drifting away from God, into stubborness and hard-heartedness, was the reason Moses allowed for them to issue a certificate of divorce. "Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. *But it was not this way from the beginning* ." Matthew 19:8 Now again, here, regarding oaths, Jesus says: 'Don't even make an oath; not by heaven, not by earth, not by Jerusalem, not even by your own heads.' And as we know, '...it was not this way from the beginning.' I believe this would also include 'no oath-making' to an organisation just because it claims to be 'the channel of God'. I find it encouraging to consider the words of the writer of Hebews chapter 7, on the importance and true value of an oath that *DOES* please God. This ties in nicely with Eric's reference to Hebrews chapter 6. Gods promises and oaths had already been discussed in two important places in the book of Hebrews, with the mention of two oaths ("...two unchangeable things" - guaranteed) made by God, regarding 1) Melchizedek and 2) Abraham. Hebrews 5:5+6 and Hebrews 6:13+18 "For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah, and in regard to that tribe Moses said nothing about priests. And what we have said is even more clear if another priest like Melchizedek appears, one who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the basis of the power of an indestructible life. For it is declared: “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.” "And *it was not without an oath* ! Others became priests without any oath, but *he became a priest with an oath when God said to him* : “The Lord has sworn and will not change his mind: ‘You are a priest forever.’ ” *Because of this oath, Jesus has become the guarantor of a better covenant* ." Hebrews 7:14-17; 20-22 What a difference, then, between the oaths of men and those of God.

We don't know that for sure. All we know is that it doesn't appear in Greek manuscripts. However, his name Yeshua, does contain the divine name.

Ooops :' There is no difference ' ; correcting my words.

Did you watch the video? Because it demonstrates that what the Bible teaches is not what Jehovah's Witnesses practice through their baptism policy.

Those with faith in God don't need organized "religion", just fellow believers "the body of Christ." "Wherever 2 or more" are gathered in Jesus name, he will be there." But some people have no faith in anything but themselves.

Doubt he denies the Godhead???

I stay away from organized religion. (A tautology, I'm coming to see.)

There are the church of god general conference churches, the ones who run Atlanta Bible college , they are non trinitarian and there are the oneness groups they are modalist which is what JWs think the trinity is.. The best understanding of the trinity comes from knowing the name of God, Was Is Will Be Causes To Become The Eternal, time exists in him, The Son, is his imager and through the Spirit we can image God through the Son, that’s the trinity, Jesus went to The Father after he was resurrected and this means he was The Angel of The Lord in the Old Testament who’s “name was in him”.

@@tzaphkielmelekiyah1518 Describing the Biblical relationship between the Father and Son and the holy spirit and then calling that "the Trinity" is like describing a pickup truck and calling it a jet plane. You can't slap a label on something hoping to find legitamacy. It's the game the judiazers used to try to placate the Jews into not persecuting Christans by getting the gentile Christians to be circumsized. The early Christians preached the Good News. They didn't preach the Trinity. So the Trinity is not part of the Good News. That means anyone preaching it is accursed. Read Galatians 1:6-9.

@BeroeanPickets the bible refers to mystery of Christ, I believe over time his identity was being revealed. With the right translation, you can't deny that Jesus was worshipped, called God, and prayed to directly. They will call him Emmanuel "God with us" how could you not see that the writer of Mathew knew his true identity. My original question regarding a place to worship for ones who don't believe in the trinity is that the bible encourages fellowship Hebrews 10:24-25 "And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near" I never knew the beauty of a church until i started attending one that actually cared about the sick, the hungry, the widow.

What's your point??

Jews had a priesthood. Which Jesus s lineage goes back to; fulfilling His promise to Abraham. We re grafted in ( the Church).

@@jackiepowell7513 If you are a JW or been one you would understand the point.