How the Marlins accidentally won another World Series in the middle of falling apart | Collapse 

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Since it's baseball season, the 2015 Royals could be a good one. Maybe a little early, but still.

2017 Ottawa Senators???? Probably too early

@@dorianj74 I was totally expecting those Royals to be featured this week

You should do a collapse video on the 2014-2015 Royals

MANCHESTER UNITED we don’t care

@MANCHESTER UNITED US, Mexico, Cuba, DR, Venezuela, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, China, Canada, Honduras and Vietnam are some examples

@MANCHESTER UNITED So just because Mexico is a soccer country disregards it's very sizeable baseball numbers?

@MANCHESTER UNITED Yes, it is a minority sport there, but its still not rare

@MANCHESTER UNITED Soccer still sucks.

the 03 team was no accident....look at the rotation of pitchers...pavano penny beckett willis looper redman urbina with pug lee cabrera castillo pierre conine gonzalez hollandsworth mordecai lowell encarnacion as hitters..those are 18 names everyone should know in the mlb fanbase...that team was stacked

That's ridiculous. NO ONE wins the World Series by accident. The Marlins were the real deal and they showed it the entire season--and they tore down everyone standing in their way and won the World Series.

@GTC Pohorex Also wrong. The 2003 squad didn't completely disband until after the 2005 season. From 2003 to 2005, many of the core players on the World Series-winning team played for the Marlins.

2003 Yankees were clearly better. Unfortunately Boone was a choke artist that entire post-season and no one remembers it because he managed to hit that one knuckleball out to beat the Sox in the ALCS. Boone had a runner at third and less than two outs - get that run in and Rivera closes, Yankees up 3-1. But Boone strikes out, and instead Torre went with that other horrible choke artist, Jeff Weaver who promptly lost the game.

@@OroborusFMA What are you saying is clearly a reminder that the Marlins were better. The better team won the series, it's that simple.

Good one 😂

Exactly

Just like Tampa bay lightning

@@azuredusk991at least Tampa bay won they division

Dead ass considering they won 2 times in 20 some odd years lmao the fact they won two rings and never won their own division is insane to me

yo for real, Sheff finessed the fuck out of the Dodgers. i loved him when he came to the Yankees and appreciated him playing through an injured shoulder. this story adds to my respect

You get what you can get for your professional career it doesn't last forever

Didn’t care for him as a kid but the older i get the more I respect his shrewdness

I'm glad he made pay those dogs big time for his trade

Sheff is a smart man.

Kayman234 same

Be careful what you wish for.

I'm your 666th like. Lol

Yea that would be nice

@yoda kazam Right

There is actually 4 of us, sorry dude

i am one of them, trust me going into this season i am still as optimistic as ever. you should see Marlins starting pitching this spring, this team truly is a wonder, a twisted wonder, that i love.

Five, don't forget the one guy who's always ready to bandwagon@@JonathanRod

Thank you

@@JonathanRod smh lmao

That’s true!! Very wild

They're not undeafeated, they lost games

@@noobmaster-wj3qm he said having never lost a series, not just a game

😂😂

That's true they've only made the Playoffs twice and both times they won the World Series. I praise them for their efficiency. However more often than not they've been a losing team and in the years that they won the World Series they won it as the Wild Card Winner. They never have won their division ever in their existence. Overall they're 324 games below .500 as a Franchise. While that seems like a small amount of games to overcome to get back to over .500 all time. They still have to hope their Prospects pan out and that Jeter and Co. do right by the Team and get pieces outside the team for them to be competitive. They also have to hope they have a decent season. If not the deficit and losing record becomes bigger and harder to overcome.

Kaque Burlington I love them; the most confusing team in sports. No division titles but two championships. No player has ever hit for the cycle as a Marlin (only team without a cycle). The Marlins also have no HOF Representatives in Cooperstown. But they do have their 6 no hitters. And only the Cardinals, Red Sox, Yankees, and Giants have as many championships since the Marlins were created in 1993 and won their two.

@Kaque Burlington lol mind blogging?

plasticwrap uhh..yeah? it’s so crazy that your mind subconsciously starts a blog on the subject.

True fact there..hs

Now..hear me out here..im looking for this story..the one that involves a coaches relative from the Marlins that was in the hospital during that world series..the coach had asked players if they would visit that person during that world series. one of the marlins that did, in particular was Craig Counsel. The kid in the hospital said Craig reminded him of a crow.. at the end of the visit..the kid says ..the crow flies at midnite..the next day .CC crossed the plate on a base hit at 12 midnite..to win the series..look it up..it was a Paul Harvey Rest Of the Story when i heard this..cannot find it anywhere..

Unlike my beloved Braves...

Haha

That was funny asf😂😂

Haha I sawfish what you did there.

Couldn’t help it. The SBnation crew is a good grouper guys

And what Derek Jeter WILL do to this team....

The Marlins are the epitome of a broken clock being right twice a day

@@TheWileycyote95 Spot on, spot on.

baxatak Baxatak what? Get them to the playoffs? In the NLDS?

Seriously Marlins love trading away talent

The White Sox had gone even longer than the Worse Sox without a title.

@@EbonAvatar 2 rings in 6 years get hip

Dante Goodman no the cubs went beyond a century.

yeah..miami won while not trying to with no fans and as a fresh new team while the cubs and red sox tried so hard for nearly 90 years each lol ...

Not to mention that baseball's model organization at the time, the Braves, only managed to win one.

Yeah, but the penguins rose again by winning the Stanely Cup in 09', 16', & 17'.

gamermaster56 nope false. The Penguins haven’t won a cup since 1992

Hans nope nope nope. You obviously don’t know hockey. Stick to lacrosse and soccer you soft bitch!

@Millennium Falcon a joke do you know it

gamermaster56 so? They still collapsed for a while

True haha

Lol all the old timers who were against the Wild Card, and said if you won, you won, pointed this out, that a team could win a WS and never a division pennant, and were laughed at. They ended up being right.

@@dingdong7610 that's the point of the wild card to give other teams a chance at winning

@@why-km6lo well it is because there were many years that a team would do great having the 2nd best record in MLB but the best record was oh yeah in their division and so they don't get a chance which is why one was put in and then it was expanded to two and then later 3 chances. Look the phillies even made the WS even though they got in the playoffs right near the end of the season. Now one intresting thing about the Marlins is they have made 3 appearances last one being in 2020 and before that season they were perfect in the playoffs

@@Josh-ut4wvWasn’t the strike in 94 a big reason for the introduction of the Wild Card the next year? I was barely even a year old so correct me if I’m wrong

@RB01.10 No, the format had been put in that season (both the wildcard and the central divisions) but due to the strike there were no playoffs

Hard to give anything resembling credit to a franchise that has been around for 25 years and never once won their division.

Florida Marlins

ArmadilloAl It’s not hard to give them credit they won I was there

@@ArmadilloAl So? they won 2 titles while doing it. the indians on the other hand have won division & keep taking L's

The 1997 Marlins did spend a lot of money. They spent a lot of money in the prior offseason for free agents, bringing in Alex Fernandez, Moises Alou, Bobby Bonilla, Jim Eisenreich, as well as some guys like Al Leiter and Kevin Brown the season before. And then the next year, they dumped every big contract they could because Wayne Huizenga preferred making money over winning. The 2003 team was a budget team built through scouting, great drafts, clever value trades, and only one major free agency signing (Ivan Rodriguez).

As a Cubs fan at that time I was really pulling for those fun Detroit teams.

Maaannnnmm you telling me. I’m a Detroit sports fan

The Red Sox also helped dismantle that 2003 Marlins team.

It was depressing that my Tigers ended up having just as big as a fall now as the Marlins did in this vid

Don't forget Dontrelle Willis, but at that point he was washed up

Honestly stunning that it took until 2020 for them to lose a postseason series at all. As a Braves fan, I was honestly sweating out Game 1 until the 7th inning because it just felt as if the postseason voodoo was working its stuff on the Marlins again up to that point

They also had a great OF with Ozuna, Yelich, Stanton. Once the team was dismantled I only went when my beloved Cubs came in town. Previously I’d make a couple games per month. Glad Loria/Sampson is out of the picture.

@@rappcu I dunno, still seem better than the Jeter regime

@@philthornton1382 jeter's been gone

They are the October team with the shittiest April to September you could imagine. If they somehow get into the playoffs via Wild Card, they will win the World Series.

Yep, pretty much. As a fan of the team, spot on analysis.

@@lookinforthe70s No. When the Marlins win, they go big. When they lose, they go home.

@@matthewmazzatto8003 basically the NL version of the Royals

The mlb version of the carolina hurricanes

to be fair they got their 2 titles in 6 years....what did the cubs do for 106 of their 107 year drought but lose before the world series?..or the red sox 86 year drought...like the Indians are still waiting...the marlins aren't that bad off are they?...

I am! Let's go for the gold! What a run.

As a Cubs fan I’m having nightmares about the Steve Bartman game. If we don’t win the world series I hope you guys do. Make it 3/3!

I'm here after remembering my Braves ended that undefeated postseason streak schtick.

@@MeargleSchmeargle Okay we get it! 😂

Mikey K ‘03 NLDS 😂 so stfu

Greatest marlin of a time

I am Jobu no pudge is is the greatest catcher in marlins history

Nathaniel Levesque For a week

And Carlos Delgado

5 days ! That has to count

Laughs in Yinzer Mode

Ian Osorio Don’t forget though, the 2010 Giants also had Tim Linecum still in his prime and both young Buster Posey and Madison Bumgarner. But Edgar Renteria was truly the MVP of the 2010 WS. I’ll never forget his heroics.

whats funny is the team they had prior to jeter getting here wasn't going to win but now that they are doing it the right way watch them win in 5 years lol and blow it up again..shame too cause both teams could of repeated ...

Geesh get a room

@@ktat01 u mad bro?

I requested this in the comments to the last one. It's fun because they can actually do a sequel of the shit of the entire Loria era up to now, which I am now officially requesting.

if it was just you they wouldn’t have done it

I know 2 Zions. You're the worst one i know.

Thank you for mentioning this. Just like poor Bill Bukner, Bob Stanley threw a wild pitch before the Bukner error. Cubs still had it until the botched double play.

It’s because Bartman is a much sexier story for the casual viewing audience. The casual audience couldn’t care less about the DP that should’ve been made by Alex Gonzalez; just like the casual viewing audience could care less about Bucker and not about Calvin Schiraldi or John McNamara really being the key factors in the Red Sox losing Game 6 in ‘86.

No way. Maybe battle it out with the Braves for NL dominance but the Yankees were way too good from 1998-2000. Don't think they would have won any more WS in those years but perhaps won another pennant.

Uh, really? Wow, that...that's just awesome! You, my friend, are the epitome of a baseball fan, and for you and your friends, I want nothing more than for the Marlins to rise from the dead one more time and scratch and claw their way to one more title, and for the Miami crowd to embrace them once again.

@@lcrossmk8563 Thank you so much for the kind words. Your comment made me tear up....I know one day we will rise again for good, to end the torment, to earn our city, and to forge our dynasty.

@@lcrossmk8563 WE'RE BACK!!!!!!!!!!

They actually got him in a trade from the Cubs when he was still a minor leaguer.

Willis was actually drafted by the Cubs - he was a piece of the 2002 trade that sent Matt Clement and Antonio Alfonseca to Chicago.

I was waiting

I forgot about d-train. I even copied his pitch when i played baseball

Man that's a whole sad story in and of itself. Poor Dontrelle. I hated the Marlins for 2003 as a Cubs fan, but D-train was cool, easy guy to root for. Sad things fell apart on him with his life.

Money is evil

Dwayne Howard No the worship of money is evil, money is a tool. And the Marlins don’t have the revenue to spend like the Yankees, Red Sox, and Dodgers.

If you broadened the lens to other industries and sports, I suspect it would be largely the same story.

@@arthasmenethil4297 I laugh at how painful it was that the Marlins organization cashed in after every World Series/Pennant run. As an entrepreneur, you would think that they would keep a winning team to keep winning and sell tickets.

Not the Red Wings as much.

Actually, the teams are supported, and it's because of those World Series titles.

We've had great players in all sports but our managers have been very cruel to us.

September 21st

I lived in South Florida from 2002-2017, and I gotta say I loved watching the Marlins. There were definitely some trying times, but I saw lots of great players and plenty of magical moments over the years. 2003 was simply amazing, so much fun watching that team.

Parrhesia 😂

D.J. Howell Word. 😔

He declined rapidly after '05, but I agree, he was a big piece of their franchise at the time

Nor any mention of Álex González, Mike Lowell, or Pudge Rodriguez.

bjchit im listening to them mention pudge right now why dont you pay attention

@@bobbob-iv4we Wow, once in passing. Why don't you try not being a dick?

yelich too

Indians traded Cy Young winners in back to back seasons the year after they won the award with CC and Cliff Lee. At least the Marlins got to celebrate twice.

Ttt

That same story would also tell of the rise of the Oilers, would be interesting I am sure

Shows how good the AL is think about it when the Marlins where good in the 90s the Yankees where always better even now how they have they get close to the playoffs but never get threw

James Jackson its because of our trash management, why let go of cano and Cruz ??

Yeah, I'm about to watch opening game

Were they ever high enough to even collapse?

Or the Detroit Red Wings

Mike Provencher II they were never very good, the collapse of the north stars would be better

Maybe they weren't a championship team, but they actually meant a lot to the city of Hartford, they were really popular despite what the owner claimed, and then all of a sudden they were just gone. I think it would be a really fascinating story, especially in this format.

Mike Provencher II really popular? You know they averaged more than 15,000 per game in a season right? Their last season they averaged less than 14,000. The few years prior to leaving they weren’t able to draw 12,000 a night. You may have really liked them and been a big fan but they were not popular by any stretch.

only 8 of the main 20 players on that team were drafted by the marlins

That's why I love the Marlins. Their players, coaches, and management are among the best in baseball. They make the Marlins, not the front office, and certainly not Loria.

Well 92' & 93' was a great couple of years but due to the strike it decimates the squad

No one left though just got old and slow. NHL has little player movement so doubt they would cover them except maybe Senators cause of the insane amount of drama.

Mason O'Leary they just got old and slow. Better teams would be the collapse of the 90s-now Islanders

they became awful after letting Gretzky walk however that was in the 90s

Facts

Derek Jeter*

Well that's because you're a fuckin loser, there are much worse MLB teams and they still have a great fan base stop being a crybaby.

That was a good game

Why wouldnt u go to a game in 2015 when they had a solid team

gotta go see the fish statue bro

@@larsfinlay7325 I thought they took it down for this season.

Zebulon, North Carolina?

Reminds me of that Indians owner in the movie Major League

I knew I'd find Jose Mesa here if I dug deep enough. Man, he ALWAYS faded from August through October at some point. Remarkably unreliable closer.

@@closethockeyfan5284 he is hated in NE Ohio alongside Art Modell

dolphins and heat own your franchises in terms of titles as well ….philly has 5 titles between their major 3 teams since hockey isn't that big with way more history and the miami teams combined have 7 in way less time for 2 of their teams in the heat and marlins lol....

Try being a Pirates fan it’s even more degrading. I still think Philadelphia should’ve kept the Athletics.

I started protesting with my money

@@geebee6010 good job. These greedy owners are what's holding back alot of talented teams reaching their peak. I remember the Mccutchen Pirates being really good. If only they made the trade or free agent pick up that pushed them over the top. See how the astros got verlander, the cubs got Chapman, The royals got Johnny cueto, the redsox got J.D. Martinez. What could have been.

Wow! So in 1980, they had a 97 year drought that nobody talks about!?

Ssshhh! Americans don't know they exist. :) Plus, the Jays were still the defending World Series champs heading into the 1995 season as well.

Didn't they win back to back with mostly different rosters?

Taekwondo Time No, people are well aware of the Blue Jays existence.

It’s almost like you can get away with anything if you’re rich or something...

Not the first time Floridians worshipped a scumbag

Huizenga did a lot for local hospitals, but make no mistake: The guy was a ruthless businessman.

Well Blockbuster video was pretty awesome back in the day so.........

Probably the hockey fans version of it, he owned the panthers too but he never did anything with them either unless you count 96

Kofie Why? Juan pierre is one of my favorite marlins along with the D Train!

the best 1-2 punch, we talking like 90+ steals and like 200+ runs combined

you're in luck, he'll be taking the mound @great american ball park tmrw at 4

And that defense at 2nd and short stop of Luis Castillo and Alex Gonzalez op 😁

Hell yes

How about the collapse of the organization since 2006 :)

To be honest, it wasn't much of a collapse. That 2001 team completely came out of nowhere, and the team still won 93 games in '02 and '03 (somehow missing the playoffs both times). The wheels fell off the cart in '04, but by then, Edgar Martinez had retired, and with the anchor of the team and one of Seattle's most mythic sports legends gone, everyone else fell away, too. Bret Boone got caught in the PED scandal of the early 2000s, to no one's surprise, John Olerud played one more year in 2004 before hanging up the glove with catcher Dan Wilson gone the year before, Mike Cameron and Freddy Garcia both left for greener pastures, and new GM Bill Bavasi was way in over his head, trying to supplement the quickly decaying 25-man roster with veterans at the cost of the team's future. So, yeah, those early-2000s Mariners' teams didn't really collapse. They got old and moved on, and the GM refused to go gently into that good night, postponing a rebuild until the next GM could strip the farm even further. It's been 15 years, but the Mariners are finally attempting to build a healthy organization from the bottom up.

@@tripleoo0 dont forget they made the ALCS in 2000 when they lost to the yankees in 6

Good call.

Mariners and Marlins my fav teams....now its the Yankees

As a Marlins fan it’s pretty embarrassing

@@MrSayWhatIThink23 well you could be a Tampa Bay fan or a Padres fan or Seattle fan or maybe a Cincinnati Reds fan or a Pirates fan trust me there's a lot worst teams out there in the MLB.

Hal Vil both can be true, the Marlins have still been an embarrassment for a number of years and I’m not optimistic for the future

Young & Ambitious I’m optimistic with Brian Anderson to say the least

i feel bad for florida baseball, there are other bad teams, but they try.....dumbs gms...but try....rays and marlins are all lets make money.

KUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNITZ

As a Pens fan, that may have been my favorite moment of that season, I’m putting it over winning the Cup, it was an amazing moment

@@alexlewis2184 As a Senators fan, that was my least favourite moment in all of hockey.

- It'll continue if Colorado wins the lottery with Ottawa's original 1st round pick LOL

@Hans Oh mann, poor Sens fans if that's true. Haha

If only the Marlins began play in 92 instead of seeing 93, lol

@@LittmanStethoscope Bud Selig didn’t ban Pete Rose that was the commissioner after Pete I can’t remember his last name and before Francis “Fay” Vincent….. I hope you will reply to this