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How the re-introduction of wolves is impacting Colorado 

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As part of efforts to save wolves from extinction, the animals have been re-introduced in Idaho, Wyoming and Montana. Some of the wolves have moved to Colorado of their own accord, and more are set to be released there soon. Michelle Miller takes us inside the debate.
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@qmantexas440
@qmantexas440 Год назад
Please re-introduce grizzly bears into LA.
@Nocomment552
@Nocomment552 Год назад
Bruh, this is a serious video. I’m not here to laugh lol.
@Brainbaskit
@Brainbaskit Год назад
Exactly, a lot of people don't know, they used to be native to Skid Row. Let them be free again!
@brichards989
@brichards989 Год назад
Are you talking Louisiana or Los Angeles? I guess they're both good ideas.
@skysthelimitvideos
@skysthelimitvideos Год назад
Grizzlies unironicaly need to be reintroduced to California
@markphillips2252
@markphillips2252 Год назад
Boulder and ft collins also
@lukespack
@lukespack Год назад
Large dogs used by ranchers can have a definitely positive effect on the cattle lost to wolves. Europeans have used guard dogs for years. Dogs like great pyrenees, anatolian shepherd, kuvasz and other livestock protectors.
@bprint555
@bprint555 Год назад
Will you help the ranchers pay for these dogs? And a “large dog” cannot defend itself against 3 wolfs
@attysthoughts3253
@attysthoughts3253 Год назад
@@bprint555 they're not that expensive to feed and are lower maintenance than a small house dog like a chihuahua or a daschund
@bprint555
@bprint555 Год назад
@@attysthoughts3253 nice, glad you think they are inexpensive, why don’t you help pay a rancher for a guard dog?
@attysthoughts3253
@attysthoughts3253 Год назад
@@bprint555 he's a big boy. he can pay for his own. he probably pays more yearly on coffe
@poppinc8145
@poppinc8145 Год назад
Dogs, mules and donkeys can all keep wolves and coyotes away, but these farmers are too lazy for that.
@coloradomallcrawlers
@coloradomallcrawlers Год назад
I’m a railroader and saw my first wolf near Granby (Frasier Canyon) a few weeks ago. “Whoa, that’s a massive coyote!” Then he stopped and watched the train go and both of us in the cab said, “That’s a wolf, right?” I wish we had footage, but it was grey blue in color with long legs. Bigger than a husky or malamute so I’m pretty confident. We see a lot of awesome animals (lions, bears, lynx, bald eagles, moose, elk, ringtails), but I’m not going to lie, wolves make me slightly nervous to walk a train through 3ft of snow at night. I also believe we still occasionally get a Grizzly or two in Colorado, but that’s a debate I want to prove with video. Edit: “lions” means mountain lions. My channel is called Colorado Mallcrawlers not African Mallcrawlers lol 😉
@coleholloway2523
@coleholloway2523 Год назад
Absolute no grizzley I’m colorado! Need to see it to believe it !!! But if that was a wolf that is crazy dude. There is a few near Walden in a pack that goes in and out of colorado and Wyoming
@Kiraiko44
@Kiraiko44 Год назад
Bears and cougars are WAY more likely to attack you than a wolf. There have been only 2 recorded fatal and 22 nonfatal wolf attacks in North America in the last century. Cougar and grizzly attacks are also pretty rare, but there's been way more of them. 126 attacks, 27 fatalities for cougars, and 158 fatal grizzly bear attacks, I couldn't find a record of how many nonfatal attacks but they're more common so over 150 for sure.
@Saps_bigbaits
@Saps_bigbaits Год назад
Some guy hS a video of a grizzly he saw in Colorado a few years ago
@coloradomallcrawlers
@coloradomallcrawlers Год назад
@@coleholloway2523 I have good intel that isn’t true… everyone acts like Colorado is so developed that there’s no way. However, a Grizz doesn’t see Colorado and say, “oh no, I can’t go in there.” Yes, I know they don’t travel like wolves do, but I find this argument surprising. I have a zoology degree, but apparently so does everyone else.
@coloradomallcrawlers
@coloradomallcrawlers Год назад
@@Kiraiko44 I know, but that doesn’t mean I’m not going to be nervous when I’m dredging slowly through 3 feet of snow, with absolute silence, and fresh cat (or wolf) tracks in the snow. We’ve had cats not back down from conductors and these are wild animals who might be hungry or irritated by my presence in their territory.
@JakeLuke308
@JakeLuke308 Год назад
There are dog breeds that are specialists at protecting livestock from predators, wolves and cougars. Farmers and ranchers in Italy have been living with wolves forever and it works just fine.
@markw999
@markw999 Год назад
Uhhhh, no. These are Canadian Gray Wolves - upwards of 200 pounds for large males. Also stronger pound for pound than any domestic dog breed. Even the big Anatolian breeds don't stand a chance.
@sweettaterpie7009
@sweettaterpie7009 Год назад
@@markw999 The dogs scare them away.
@hwy1310
@hwy1310 Год назад
Wolves eat dogs
@jessematheny3636
@jessematheny3636 Год назад
@@markw999 Nepal has the biggest wolves on the planet some videos are scary but it seems like the kengal I believe is the dog name does a good job of protecting from those massive wolves
@CarShopping101
@CarShopping101 Год назад
@@markw999 Wrong. Obv you need more than just 1 or 2 dogs to scare away a wolf pack but 4 or 5 Anatolian Shepherds or Kangals will def scare away a wolf pack. Wolves will always choose the easiest prey and its not worth it to them to risk injury fighting four or five 150 lb dogs. Most male wolves are in the 160 lb range.
@BeefyGordita
@BeefyGordita Год назад
I’ve lived in the Colorado Rockies my whole life and solo backpack regularly, and can tell you first hand that wolves have been “back” in Colorado for several years. Part of the state voting yes to reintroduce wolves, includes the allocation of funds to both monitor those wolf populations, as well as set up programs to reimburse farmers and blunt the wolf’s negative impacts during the transition. The point is, even if Colorado voted no, the wolves were already coming south naturally as the wolf population grows and new food sources were needed, so at least now there are funds and oversight to help “curate” the populations. All of that said, this conversation often skips over the benefits the wolves bring to an ecosystem, particularly one like Colorado with over an population of both deer and elk, which has detrimental effects of forest health and erosion. After a few years of wolf predation, a more manageable deer population will be unable to eat the majority of aspen saplings and our famous aspen groves will once again grow.
@larryborn1082
@larryborn1082 Год назад
Over population of deer? Do you have any grasp on the historic mule deer population trends? Aspen groves are EVERYWHERE, including my back yard and all over GMU 26 where I spend my outdoor back coutry time.
@bryanluntz1603
@bryanluntz1603 Год назад
Absolutely Yellowstone has a 50+yr history of the downside of extermination of the wolf The upside far outways The negative effects of re introduction And back to the reason The unbalanced nature of Human Encroachment
@bryanluntz1603
@bryanluntz1603 Год назад
@@larryborn1082 How many are hit in the roadway each year I used to put a bunch of Colorado miles on a truck every year Those accidents are everywhere Re introduction "may" lessen those negative human interactions
@jacbear6658
@jacbear6658 Год назад
@@bryanluntz1603 I remember going to utah when i was young and there had been entire herd that was plowed through
@bryanluntz1603
@bryanluntz1603 Год назад
@@jacbear6658 Hunted Meeker Colorado years ago with some friends Saw more dead on the road then harvested We hunted private property
@jamesroof6150
@jamesroof6150 Год назад
Wolves were reintroduced in 1995 in Yellowstone NP AND Bitterroot/Selway Wilderness in Idaho. Not just Yellowstone NP.
@jerrywhitejr5292
@jerrywhitejr5292 Год назад
Moved into ID on their own... Same in Washington - they came out of Canada. It is all happening regardless of human tinkering.
@kevinohara4778
@kevinohara4778 Год назад
​@@jerrywhitejr5292not true. They were introduced in 1995 near Big Creek.
@ltdc426
@ltdc426 Год назад
And while I know a lot of people in Idaho I don’t know ANY who are happy about it.
@dreamparkms
@dreamparkms Год назад
The wolves have done a lot of damage to our wildlife populations in North Idaho. Fish and Game destroys everything they touch! They ruined all of our fisheries with their Mysis shrimp too.
@twostop6895
@twostop6895 Год назад
@@kevinohara4778 get your boogeyman nonsense out of here, the 1st wolves entered Montana in 1979 from Canada and denned in Glacier National park, some of the wolves were natural migrators from BC and Alberta
@romaynecarlin1249
@romaynecarlin1249 Год назад
as a colorado resident who voted to reintroduce the wolf here, examining the good and bad is very important. yes, there will be livestock kills and there are also ways to reduce/negate that. the wolf is not the bad guy here. the exorbitant urban growth with no thought of the natural inhabitants is to blame.
@galepatrick1702
@galepatrick1702 Год назад
absolutely right-
@Trihard_7
@Trihard_7 Год назад
💯
@johnbrattan9341
@johnbrattan9341 Год назад
Romayne Carlin. Yes. Simple solution....quit eating beef. Or so much of it, for the average American. When this "cattle farmer" operates on 1200 acres standing in CO "pastureland" that's been denuded of even a blade of green, and delivers grain grown elsewhere via truck and trailor.....well that explains it all. Sickening.
@reese-em9wk
@reese-em9wk Год назад
CO resident here. I also voted for reintroduction. Colorado Trail, Continental Divide Trail, and other wild spaces are getting trashed by city folk and transplants. Reintroduction of wolf packs should keep the amateurs at home. You're a fool not to carry a rifle on the high country trails in the western states going forward. Hopefully this will bring traffic down.
@galepatrick1702
@galepatrick1702 Год назад
Helen Thayer's book is a great read about wolves in the wild -
@ncubesays
@ncubesays Год назад
As a Zimbabwean who lives near a wildlife rich area, what I find interesting in this report is the empathy shown towards the ranchers. It's rare for Western media to afford the same attitude when discussing human elephant conflict in my local area.
@Reed411
@Reed411 Год назад
The Cattleman's Association, The Elk Foundation and Hunters for Colorado are powerful interest groups with a lot of money... the argument is usually skewed to reflect their concerns and one of the reasons it's taken so long for this to pass... Classic USA
@e.t.2914
@e.t.2914 Год назад
@@Reed411 Considering what percentage of us jobs are restaurant based, and what percentage of those jobs rely on beef as a product, I would say its definitely fair to pay attention to what the suppliers of your product are asking for in order to provide you with said product.
@e.t.2914
@e.t.2914 Год назад
Western media isn't run by farmers and ranchers, its run by out of touch urbanites whose greatest understanding of nature is a potted succulent on their kitchen table. Plenty of westerners agree farmers should be able to protect their livelihoods, its just that those aren't the type of people that make mass media.
@Reed411
@Reed411 Год назад
@@e.t.2914 I agree! But it appears the entire anti-wolf side of the argument is completely unwilling to look at, or even acknowledge the studies done by the USDA, USFWS and the CPW along with other organizations who are involved in the reintroduction of wolves to the greater Yellowstone ecosystem. Idaho, Montana, Wyoming collectively rear far more cattle then Colorado does, and they have had healthy wolves populations for years. In that time have we seen the cost of beef rise? Outside of inflation, no, not due to wolves. The research that has been done suggest that less than one 1% of all cattle mortality is due to wolves in those states. That’s basically nominal. Study after study suggests that the benefits outweigh the liability. But fear and LOUD VOICES often out way the facts unfortunately…
@poppinc8145
@poppinc8145 Год назад
Yep, weirdos on the internet literally call for poachers to be murdered and they're cartoonishly dehumanized, while ignoring that it's poverty that drives people to poach, just like how it's poverty and persecution that drives people in African towards insurgency and warlords. There's also little to no coverage inside and outside Africa of places like the DR Congo where government rangers (who receive foreign aid) are actively massacring and ethnically-cleansing poor tribes people who happen to live in or near nature reserves. Furthermore, there's very little active discussion in African and Western media alike about how it's China that disproportionately drives the demand for illegal ivory and body parts that causes the poaching. Instead of blaming the root cause, people are blaming the middlemen instead.
@brqxton8974
@brqxton8974 Год назад
As a Midwesterner, the decline of native wolf populations has caused raccoon and deer populations to get way out of control(coyotes see cow calves as easier targets and barely go after adult deer anymore)
@rack9458
@rack9458 Год назад
What area in the Midwest have deer populations gotten out of control?
@brqxton8974
@brqxton8974 Год назад
@@rack9458 multiple Midwestern states have had to pay hunters to manage the population
@rack9458
@rack9458 Год назад
@@brqxton8974 The only time they pay to take out deer is due to deer in urban areas. Wolves do not live in urban areas
@brqxton8974
@brqxton8974 Год назад
@@rack9458 it has nothing to do with where the deer are
@kristenkaz3080
@kristenkaz3080 Год назад
Yup. Well said. I’m a horse owner & regularly have issues with coyotes pushing my horses thru the fence line. It’s a real problem.
@krysatheo
@krysatheo Год назад
It may not always be easy, but we should make sure there are wild spaces for wolves to a reasonable degree within their historic habitat. They are very important species as well as being amazing creatures in their own right, they were here long before us and we need to share this massive country.
@kwyatt261
@kwyatt261 Год назад
Do you live in a city or out in the country?
@robertjimenez1611
@robertjimenez1611 Год назад
No
@hyenaboy7504
@hyenaboy7504 11 месяцев назад
@@kwyatt261Not sure what your point is
@billwesner6351
@billwesner6351 6 месяцев назад
In wolves historic habitat, it was also inhabited buy BISON. You now introduce the predator and give it no prey. Think it will wait till bison come back or will it eat cats, dogs, cattle ,sheep and maybe people. Yea, This was thought out real well !!!!!!
@onthelineoutdoors6974
@onthelineoutdoors6974 5 месяцев назад
@@hyenaboy7504 his point is that people that live in the city have no clue about the damage that wolves do
@deanfirnatine7814
@deanfirnatine7814 Год назад
My family ranches in Oregon, the boost in the wolf population has had zero effect on us, yes we have had wolves on the property, but we have VERY high deer, turkey and elk populations for them to eat. Our cattle have horns and are a larger breed, the wolves do not seem to bother them and we keep a substantial pack of very large dogs that seem to scare them off. I strongly suspect some ranchers are lying about wolf losses, none of the people responsible about writing reimbursement checks seem to check too much into it so there is less screaming by the ranching community also coyote predator losses seem to get blamed on wolves as well, so far the wolf population sadly has made a minimal dent in the coyote population around here which seems to be afraid of nothing, their packs use females to try to sucker our dogs off to be attacked. Maybe the coyotes will go away when the wolf pack around here gets bigger. I always found it odd fellow ranchers make such a giant stink over wolves like the world is ending yet just deal with the huge livestock losses from coyotes like it is no big deal.
@derekyonekura5509
@derekyonekura5509 Год назад
You must not live in Fort Klamath, Oregon
@thaddeust.thirdiii736
@thaddeust.thirdiii736 Год назад
Give it time. Wolves get more populated and start going for the bigger animals first, like Moose & elk. Then they move on to deer and livestock
@sander2723
@sander2723 Год назад
The dogs dont really scare the wolves off. The wolves just decided the risk and effort aren’t worth the reward and choose fir easier loot.
@MarioRomero-cc4oj
@MarioRomero-cc4oj Год назад
Ted Turner has tried to get wolves introduced to northern New Mexico , red tape and lack of interest has not had that happen , but many people have claimed to see them near his Vermejo property !
@JubioHDX
@JubioHDX Год назад
@@sander2723 which is all you need, dogs dont need to actually fight the wolves and win (though they definitely could. people forget we have bred domestic dogs to 1v1 fighting bulls in their prime and there are many breeds that are similar in size to wolves) and we have bred dogs to be MUCH more bolder than wolves are. As long as they realize a dog is willing to fight they wont hunt there because the injury isnt worth it to an animal that isnt conditioned to disregard that because it has humans to aid it
@culbinator
@culbinator Год назад
Ranchers need to get protective dog breeds. I know it’s a new normal to deal with but we can have a world with both cattle ranching and wolves.
@CarShopping101
@CarShopping101 Год назад
I have yet to see any ranchers in any of these stories get a pack of large livestock guardian dogs and of course they complain and complain without taking the action to protect their herd.
@skyforgerpack3645
@skyforgerpack3645 Год назад
@@MrJav1986 No, they really haven't
@jancyvargheese5351
@jancyvargheese5351 Год назад
@@MrJav1986 big guard dogs in numbers will never be attacked by wolves or other predators. These big Anatolian sheep dogs, kangals, Tibetan mastiffs will protect cattle easily
@culbinator
@culbinator Год назад
@@MrJav1986 that’s an amateur response. yes I’m sure some have been killed but most of them aren’t killed.
@MrJav1986
@MrJav1986 Год назад
@@culbinator Its far from amateur, Google is a supper easy resource that anyone can use. I just watched a news article a few days ago of some guard dogs being killed in N Colorado from wolves.
@dynamoterror18
@dynamoterror18 Год назад
I remember seeing my first ever wolf in the wild at Denali National Park. They're so underpopulated there that the chances of seeing one on my first bus tour in the park was one to nearly a million.
@MROJPC
@MROJPC Год назад
It is hard to define underpopulated. I lived in Alaska for many years, still own a home in the MatSu, and plan to return for good in a few years. Animal populations and diversity in environments like Alaska is sometimes more limited because the landscape cannot sustain higher densities. It’s a post-glacial landscape that is in a sense recovering biodiversity but also has other limitations. There are examples of enormous herds like caribou in the state but nothing like what you would see in Africa. Denali is also removed from the ocean linked waterways that act as highways bringing nutrients from the ocean in the form of the big salmon runs. I am definitely not an expert but just expressing what I have heard from talking to some of them. As far as the wolves go, their numbers will fluctuate depending on the prey population and there are more numerous wolf areas but they hunt off the much larger caribou herds which number in tens or hundreds of thousands. The Denali herd is a few thousand.
@user-yn5kb7ep2l
@user-yn5kb7ep2l 2 месяца назад
Who cares is a friggin wild dog... big deal!
@dynamoterror18
@dynamoterror18 2 месяца назад
@@MROJPC You do have a fair point, it's just I remember hearing Denali once had as many as a hundred wolves living in the park, which was a reasonably healthy population. Today, last I heard there are roughly 30 left in Denali.
@elrobo3568
@elrobo3568 Год назад
If you want to read a great book about Boulder Colorado and the effort to attract the deer to the park areas of Boulder that backfired with multiple deaths of humans. Read "the beast in the garden" by David Baron.
@_Chessa_
@_Chessa_ Год назад
Thank you for this recommendation
@h8marxists663
@h8marxists663 Год назад
Human deaths in Boulder? That’s a win win.
@dhand34
@dhand34 Год назад
@@h8marxists663 not like it would be in Rifle
@the_boonies
@the_boonies Год назад
Yes! The ONLY book I've read cover to cover in one sitting 👌 And since that day in 2012 I've had 2x lion encounters, one of which was on NYD in RMNP face to face at 30yds before dawn while hiking for sunrise. Pretty cool experience. But now we venture out with 1000 lumen flashlights and ultrasonic dog deterrents 😊
@manifestdestiny1191
@manifestdestiny1191 Год назад
We need to look at Europe and how they've been able to mitigate human-predator conflict in recent decades with their wolf reintroduction programs. They've incentivized the use of livestock guardian dogs for ranchers and it's proved a great success with far less livestock and wolves being killed. It's even worked in Canada in some areas where huge wolf packs and grizzly bears still roam.
@mtadams2009
@mtadams2009 Год назад
I was hiking the Long Trail in Vermont and the trail ran through a chicken farmers field. There was four of the biggest most fearsome dogs I have ever seen. I actually think even a wolf would go the other way. I think they were Great Pyrenean Mountain Dogs and they were at least 150 pounds each. They took protecting their chickens very seriously.
@d.b.2215
@d.b.2215 Год назад
It depends on what European country. Some like Germany are dealing with what little wildlife they have very poorly. You can't talk about "Europe" as a whole. Typical American mistake.
@G53X0Y0Z0
@G53X0Y0Z0 Год назад
Yeah, like reintroduce Covid-19 and see if we can mitigate it. Or, not reintroduce it, and save a lot of work dealing with it. Wolves just aren't worth the cost.
@Wildstag
@Wildstag Год назад
A further issue is that livestock that die to disease, starvation, injury, or dehydration are taken on as losses by ranchers. But livestock that die to predators can be reimbursed by the government. But also to justify that report, a predator needs to die. So a lot of reintroduction efforts run into archaic laws and regulations that incentivize killing predators and encourage ill will towards them. P.S. Also all that's needed to justify predation is evidence of consumption by predators. But wolves will also eat carrion, so if the cow dies from exposure to cold, but a wolf eats of its dead body, it can be reported as predation, and the rancher gets kickbacks.
@nkoistrash
@nkoistrash Год назад
Livestock guardian dogs/ animals also significantly reduce herd stress. So better product gets produced due to the guardian animals creating a safer and low stress environment. And they are very efficient with keeping predators at bay.
@oldmanrunsandrides7680
@oldmanrunsandrides7680 Год назад
The pros far outweigh the cons of having wolves back in their old historic territories.
@buck4490
@buck4490 Год назад
The "cons" are paid by the very few.
@lawabidingcitizen6377
@lawabidingcitizen6377 7 месяцев назад
Buy shares in snare wire.
@bigtex4058
@bigtex4058 Год назад
Wolves gonna be wolves.
@gabrielford3473
@gabrielford3473 Год назад
And help return the ecosystem to balance. Exactly Tex!!! You got it!!!
@Ethan-um7cp
@Ethan-um7cp Год назад
3 Great Pyrenese on that dudes tiny plot would be very effective. I have family with 8000 acres, and predatory kills are insignificant with 5 LGDs.
@Greenpeppersandeggs
@Greenpeppersandeggs Год назад
Pin this comment!
@dt3675
@dt3675 Год назад
Nope, a Great Pyrenees is no match.
@gabrielford3473
@gabrielford3473 Год назад
Thank you for this!!!!
@gabrielford3473
@gabrielford3473 Год назад
@@dt3675 Soooooo, how is it that it's working on his acerage?
@CarShopping101
@CarShopping101 Год назад
@@dt3675 Perfect example of stupidity in action. The guy literally just said that his 5 dogs are working on 8000 acres. But that doesn't fit your narrative so you just spew nonsense.
@mtadams2009
@mtadams2009 Год назад
I truly can see both sides and I feel bad for the ranchers. That all said how many people have had their cars totaled from hitting a deer or moose? How many people have lost their pets to various animals. Wolfs are part of the food chain and they keep things in check. I was hiking the Long Trail in Vermont and the trail ran through the farmers field. His chickens were guarded by four of the biggest baddest dogs I had ever seen. They were Great Pyrenean Mountain Dogs and they weighed at least 150 pounds and they took guarding those chickens very seriously. There are options, maybe not perfect but nothing in life is.
@kwyatt261
@kwyatt261 Год назад
Do you live in a city or out in the country?
@mtadams2009
@mtadams2009 Год назад
@@kwyatt261 Country
@moth300
@moth300 Год назад
​@@kwyatt261 you really tried.
@LS1056
@LS1056 9 дней назад
Ranchers in Colorado don't actually protect their cattle. Over here in ohio, we have a thing called fencing, does wonders.
@thechickenwizard8172
@thechickenwizard8172 Год назад
Here's the solution to the predator conflict issue: 1: raise bison instead of cows, they're tougher and less vulnerable than cattle to predation, not to mention healthier to eat. 2: use guard dogs bred to protect livestock, or better yet get some donkeys for your herd. We need more predators to keep our ecosystems stable, and coexistence is an important issue for us all to overcome
@davestagner
@davestagner Год назад
Ranchers who lose livestock to wolves should be reimbursed for their losses. It seems like a reasonable expense to me. But as a bigger and better thing… let’s stop leasing public land to ranchers. Let’s give it back to the wolves.
@jamesduck926
@jamesduck926 Год назад
We have as much right here as any animal. You ever leave the sidewalk?
@lauracollins5172
@lauracollins5172 6 месяцев назад
You are right on. Ranchers need to quit the free.ranging of cattle. It is destroying our Federal lands, the "People's " lands. Ranchers are paying pennies on the dollar. The general public is getting fleeced by ranchers. Smart ranching is making a comeback. The federal government needs to put their foot down on the ranchers destroying public lands
@lauracollins5172
@lauracollins5172 6 месяцев назад
​@jamesduck926 No you don't
@jengordon1501
@jengordon1501 6 месяцев назад
​@@jamesduck926no you really don't. Stop being cheap and buy you're own land
@Mace-cq9lo
@Mace-cq9lo 4 месяца назад
@@jamesduck926Except we only take from the earth. We shouldn’t dictate nature. If we actually cared about the environment we wouldn’t be killing everything we think is bad.
@e.c-s8611
@e.c-s8611 Год назад
How about using Pyrenees or other dogs or donkeys?
@CarShopping101
@CarShopping101 Год назад
These ranchers just want the easy way out. I have yet to see one rancher with a pack of large livestock guardian dogs.
@Nocomment552
@Nocomment552 Год назад
They take a lot of time, effort, and money to raise and train properly. Most ranchers don’t have time or the desire to do it.
@skyforgerpack3645
@skyforgerpack3645 Год назад
@@Nocomment552 That's not entirely true. Most LGDs are inherently protective of livestock if raised with them, that's why they were selectively bred for the job, same goes for herding dogs naturally wanting to herd, or hunting dogs naturally wanting to hunt. Dogs won't take anymore money and time to raise than a newborn calf would, probably far less. If ranchers don't have the time or especially the desire for such a relatively easy dog, that naturally does it's job, maybe they should find a new occupation.
@Nocomment552
@Nocomment552 Год назад
@@skyforgerpack3645 I’ve heard and seen differently, but I could definitely be wrong on what the general experience/predisposition is for livestock guardian breeds.
@skyforgerpack3645
@skyforgerpack3645 Год назад
@@Nocomment552 Perhaps you've met some not very well bred ones, but several lines exist of LGDs where people spend good money for the dogs, because they're good at their job.
@YellowRambler
@YellowRambler Год назад
The best way to think about a wolf is when you compare it to a domesticated dog who’s been bread to maintain the puppy mental state of mind even in adulthood, however a wolf achieves full K9 adulthood if they don’t die First.
@_Chessa_
@_Chessa_ Год назад
I’m like the domesticated dog. Still a child in mind with an adult body. XD lol
@curth.1500
@curth.1500 Год назад
You sound like a true expert! Fascinating insight!
@YellowRambler
@YellowRambler Год назад
@@curth.1500 Definitely no expert, just some hearsay that rang true for me, it help me understand my old dog back in the 70s, who look like a short hair version of the thumbnail image, he was supposed to be half and half, he gave the vet quite a fright when he saw him.
@rcpmac
@rcpmac Год назад
I get what you mean but disagree with the characterization that domesticated k9s are less developed and somehow stuck in the puppy stage. I would argue that they are more developed with a different skill set that insures their survival. My Great Pyrenees has the instinct to dig out a spot under some brush and sleep there while we are tenting in the cascade mts but she gets meals and shelter from me in exchange for “protecting” my family. She knows that. If you ever encounter hearding breeds in their work environment you will clearly understand that there is serious skill and dedication there.
@JohnSmith-lg2ie
@JohnSmith-lg2ie Год назад
​@@rcpmac As someone who has worked with dogs and studied wolf behavior as well for many years, I certainly agree with you. Dogs who have a job to do certainly become adult canines and take their job very seriously. And most dogs who are not given a job to do try to create one for themselves. Also wolves are far less dangerous to humans than most realize. They avoid people and most run away when they see or smell a human. Ranchers who are not used to having wolves around need to learn how to ward them off. It's just more work they are not used to, but wolves will learn to avoid well protected livestock. If they are put down they don't learn, they are just replaced.
@AliceFordAdventures
@AliceFordAdventures Год назад
Got to love the news playing up the same storyline that led to wolves almost going extinct in the first place
@PortmanRd
@PortmanRd Год назад
Ranchers would gladly see them go the way of the Passenger Pigeon.....Extinct.
@hyenaboy7504
@hyenaboy7504 11 месяцев назад
@@PortmanRdSo, ranchers want the ecosystem destroyed?
@PortmanRd
@PortmanRd 11 месяцев назад
@@hyenaboy7504 I remember watching a video about ranchers reactions to wolves being reintroduced to Yellowstone park, and to say they were not happy is an understatement.
@hyenaboy7504
@hyenaboy7504 11 месяцев назад
@@PortmanRd Guessing you don’t agree with them?
@PortmanRd
@PortmanRd 11 месяцев назад
@@hyenaboy7504 Wolves were there long before ranchers.
@roefamily
@roefamily Год назад
It is a loose loose...who paid the rancher for the losses...government did NOT...the money comes from hunting and fishing license fees....then the numbers of elk will be decimated thus reducing the number of hunters and thereby money (from license fees)....These license fee monies help ALL wild animals/fish...ALL. So loose as money diverted from wild animals to ranchers and less hunting license fees.
@casienwhey
@casienwhey Год назад
Wolves, bison, grizzlies and many other animals were there long before humans came and killed them all. Something to think about.
@jujitsujew23
@jujitsujew23 Год назад
That rancher's problem isn't wolves, it's that he's working alone. No guard dogs, no other ranch hands...
@jamesjohnson-rr9gp
@jamesjohnson-rr9gp Год назад
Guard dogs cant deal with northern ontario grey wolves.
@jujitsujew23
@jujitsujew23 Год назад
@@jamesjohnson-rr9gp what do you mean by deal with? Their job isn't to fight them...Pyrenean mountain dog protect cows from wolves in Europe. They weigh as much as a wolf and when a few of them start barking wolves back off. There are other breeds too
@tman8939
@tman8939 Год назад
this rancher has lost his dogs to the wolves already, why is it an issue working alone and by the way he does not work alone.
@JubioHDX
@JubioHDX Год назад
@@jamesjohnson-rr9gp yes they can, do, and will. domestic dogs are much bolder than wolves as a part of the breeding we did, an equal sized dog will always win the intimidation battle against a wolf, and not even a pack of 3-6 wolves will want to fight 3-4 large dogs that dont back down
@jujitsujew23
@jujitsujew23 Год назад
@@tman8939 where is your evidence he's lost dogs and does not work alone?
@katiesalvadore7306
@katiesalvadore7306 Год назад
I remember learning about this in science class in middle school back then. That’s cool to see the long term results.
@bruceevans9664
@bruceevans9664 Год назад
I think a few wolves and some bears would be good in central park san francisco and l.a.
@evalynmachia182
@evalynmachia182 Год назад
While cattle might appear to be easier prey than elk or deer, ranchers have the ability to build fences or raise guard dogs to help protect their livestock. Preventive measures like this is should encourage the wolves to stick to their natural diets.
@rack9458
@rack9458 Год назад
Fences and guard dogs don't keep cattle safe on 1000 acre ranches! Keep shooting wolves!
@dhand34
@dhand34 Год назад
Too many are on public land. They get to run livestock on it for pennies on the dollar. I’m much more sympathetic to the small rancher on his own land
@Saxxin1
@Saxxin1 Год назад
@@dhand34 Do you complain when you eat? You so called good doers have zero incite on how the world works. Just how high do you want food prices to be before you get it?
@dhand34
@dhand34 Год назад
@@Saxxin1 western ranching accounts for only about 2-3% of meat output in the US. It’s a crappy business model that relies on tax payers to keep it afloat, aka socialism. If it went away, nobody would miss it
@dt3675
@dt3675 Год назад
You have no idea what you're talking about.It is a rare species of herd dog that can take on one wolf much less a pack of them. You can not babysit cattle 24/7.
@jamespratt529
@jamespratt529 3 месяца назад
That pack of wolves literally lived off of those cows that winter. They weren’t hunting many wild animals that winter
@kodybracken518
@kodybracken518 5 месяцев назад
So my only question is when do we reintroduce grizzly bears across the entire state of California I think it would be amazing to see bears there again , after all they were there first 🤣😂🫵💪
@shoja2009
@shoja2009 Год назад
wolfs are essential for nature & we must respect this beautiful & highly intelligent animals
@Saxxin1
@Saxxin1 Год назад
They should be let lose in all democrat cities.
@on1ytheb3st
@on1ytheb3st Год назад
@@Saxxin1 Exactly, they'd have too much of a food source to then turn on the cattle; good thinking!
@ebtcard3037
@ebtcard3037 Год назад
I saw a Wolf in Smith Valley Nv a handful of years back he was chasing a Coyote the Coyote was smart he timed it perfectly and ran out in front of the vehicle I was driving causing me to brake the vehicle the Coyote got away and the Wolf had to come to a quick stop or risk getting run over the Wolf was huge and very beautiful grey in color he was we were returning from the Pinenut festival in Schurz Nv to me I took it as a Spiritual Sign and Message
@Ap_twsh
@Ap_twsh Год назад
The wolf is a good sign when you see them.
@jimnowak3960
@jimnowak3960 Год назад
He got lucky.
@markchor
@markchor Год назад
The entire time the rancher was talking I was just saying to myself, " get dogs, get dogs, get dogs" you need to make the wildlife the easier target than the livestock
@Croakin
@Croakin Год назад
*adds a singular donkey to the herd* *local wolf population dissapears* There are ways to control animals outside of shooting them
@lisamann8521
@lisamann8521 Год назад
Totally agree
@seeharvester
@seeharvester Год назад
Donkeys? What caliber?
@harbyarby1347
@harbyarby1347 Год назад
The Donkeys are mint! Livestock Guardian Dogs, especially as a group of three or more are profoundly helpful. I had a LGD and she protected against two Bears - we have it on game camera.
@CarShopping101
@CarShopping101 Год назад
or 4 or 5 Anatolian Shepherds or Kangals. Wolves will not risk serious injury and will look for other prey.
@Croakin
@Croakin Год назад
@@harbyarby1347 so badass 🤙
@theodorerzepski8491
@theodorerzepski8491 Год назад
A fair presentation of the issues. Thanks
@robertscheinost179
@robertscheinost179 Год назад
For 1,200 acres, 4 livestock guard dogs will keep the wolves looking for a better place to find food. Bringing your pregnant cows into a calving area will also help. You will take a loss here and there but let the dogs do the work. The State should provide the dogs to the ranchers, along with vet care for the dogs. The cattle losses will drop 90%. It should have been in the legislation that brought the wolves back.
@LMays-cu2hp
@LMays-cu2hp Год назад
Thank you fir sharing.
@rypatmackrock
@rypatmackrock 2 месяца назад
The key to solving this is to understand how domesticated livestock can fit into the natural ecosystem, and possibly involve the historic indigenous tribes with the respect to their history, woven into the history of these ecosystems. That, wildlife corridors, and defensive livestock for ranchers, I hope are all possible tools.
@kerryarrant1523
@kerryarrant1523 Год назад
There is already a Federal Wildlife Program to control predators. Agents are authorized to help ranchers by capturing or killing animals. Wolves are not protected from Federal Agents. Ultimately, ranchers will have to get Bigger Dogs as best protection. Thank you very much.
@twostop6895
@twostop6895 Год назад
and there is limits to that
@twostop6895
@twostop6895 Год назад
those USDA predator programs have been successfully sued in court and forced to relent in a lot of cases, many want the USDA defunded cause of these programs
@NewEnglandGaming413
@NewEnglandGaming413 Год назад
The wolves are a keystone species. Better for the environment overall that they be there than not.
@jessmerrithew3897
@jessmerrithew3897 7 месяцев назад
Says who? You can't even draw a nonresident tag to hunt any of the western states that have wolves these days. So don't tell me the deer and elk are over populated because that is BS. But more states are reintroducing wolves? Why? So there is no more deer or elk to hunt? The deer and elk are a public resource per the constitution. What gives the wolf the right to wipe them out? Seams like just another tactic to eliminate a justifiable food source. And for this so called reintroduction of the grey wolf. This is a hybrid wolf that is almost twice the size. Why is this hybrid protected by law?
@strutstopper45
@strutstopper45 6 месяцев назад
How is that ? Making every animal in their habitats live in stress !!! Wolves not only put stress on deer and elk but every living creature out there
@TheCholopolo209
@TheCholopolo209 Год назад
Where I am from Wolves were wiped out. The last one was killed in 1786. There have been talks about reintroducing them cause we have a massive Deer population problem. The Deers are culled annually, which costs the taxpayer. I do think that if farmers are well compensated or maybe be allowed to defend their land. It would be a good idea.
@hyenaboy7504
@hyenaboy7504 11 месяцев назад
Would that be the UK, by any chance?
@TheCholopolo209
@TheCholopolo209 11 месяцев назад
@@hyenaboy7504 it is Ireland actually. You were close though.
@billwesner6351
@billwesner6351 6 месяцев назад
No deer cull has ever cost the public a dime. And i would like to see you prove that deer are a population problem in your area . I call BS !!!!!!!
@Wildstag
@Wildstag Год назад
Studies show that wolves learn how to hunt from their mature family. So if the adult wolves in a pack are killed, and the young survive, they only learn how to hunt easy prey. The easiest prey are livestock that have been bred to be docile and raised in environments free of predators. Healthy wolf packs don't hunt livestock, they hunt wild deer, elk, bison, moose, and other prey. Most livestock predation is because ranchers see a wolf, assume it killed one of their livestock, and shoot it; thus leaving the young with only one efficient food source. But also, when livestock is killed by predators, ranchers can get reimbursements from the government. So a lot of livestock are reported as predator-kills rather than deaths by disease, dehydration, or starvation. And to justify the reimbursement, a predator needs to die. If we updated ranching regulations to discourage dishonesty, we'd have less wolf problems. Until that happens, wolf reintroduction will always be on shaky ground. P.S. Also if livestock dies to exposure, disease, dehydration, or starvation, all that is needed to claim it as predation is evidence that its body has been eaten. Wolves will eat carrion, especially in winter. Once it's been eaten, it's hard to determine a specific cause of death. But if ranchers were more honest about *why* their livestock are dying, we'd have fewer dead wolves.
@dhand34
@dhand34 Год назад
Gittleson has been losing livestock to coyotes, bears etc because he lets his cows give birth all over the place instead of bringing them in. Several of his wolf claims turned out to be coyotes not wolves. He should be great full for all the volunteers who helped him get deterrents. He’s better off now. He’s not even a full time rancher. He has a day job in town.
@buck4490
@buck4490 Год назад
Attacking this man's character doesn't make your argument any more convincing. It does, however bring yours into question.
@dhand34
@dhand34 Год назад
@@buck4490 These are just the facts of the situation. You can judge the character yourself.
@buck4490
@buck4490 Год назад
@@dhand34 I can easily judge yours. Without sources backing up your "facts" you are engaging in gossip and that my friend is a low character activity. You can come in a place like this and say anything you want. You have been challenged to back up your claims.
@dhand34
@dhand34 Год назад
@@buck4490 not gossip, i know people who were out there and saw for themselves, plus the news media did plenty of articles on it. Try again Also he was discussed in some of the SAG meetings I attended
@gabrielford3473
@gabrielford3473 Год назад
@@buck4490 He brings up solid facts that definitely bring the man's character into question as it would appear, if the claims are true, that he has intentionally misrepresented the details of his loss, and in fact seems to be inviting it to further controversy. The rancher, in that case, would have no character to be worth discussing. In Montana I've seen this exact same behavior.
@alexh9676
@alexh9676 Год назад
Bring on the wolves. Ranchers must adapt or fail.
@joecole7122
@joecole7122 7 месяцев назад
and how are you going to eat.
@thuggoe
@thuggoe Год назад
why are they standing 10 feet apart
@bobritchie6720
@bobritchie6720 Год назад
So they don't get arrested. Pandemic restrictions are still on for wild animals.
@Vernbubba
@Vernbubba Год назад
Minnesota moose have been nearly eliminated thanks to the wolves. 80 percent of the calves are killed in the first 6 months
@robertsole9970
@robertsole9970 Год назад
Not true and you know it. The moose population went down due to the brain parasite, that was in the snails that was in the grass the moose eat. Stop lying bro, you got nothing to prove your statement
@obiwan2112
@obiwan2112 Год назад
Denver voted heavily in favor of wolf reintroduction while areas that actually got them were opposed. Shouldn't the wolves have been released in areas that voted for them?
@utahjizz5015
@utahjizz5015 Год назад
Wolves were here before foreign ranchers and cows who are not native to colorado
@vizzini2510
@vizzini2510 Год назад
@obiwan2112 They could drop a few dozen in Denver and solve the homeless problem lickety split.
@obiwan2112
@obiwan2112 Год назад
@@vizzini2510 Could the wolves be trained to go after the carjackers?
@vizzini2510
@vizzini2510 Год назад
@@obiwan2112 Canines are extremely trainable.
@zenofthemoment
@zenofthemoment Год назад
That’s right there is the real problem. The people that voted for it, don’t experience the consequences of that decision firsthand. Peak NIMBYism on display.
@ebtcard3037
@ebtcard3037 Год назад
Here's a tip for the ranchers get yourselves a Pyrenees we have one and I have seen him chase off five Coyotes once I was scared and worried about him but he returned safely definitely has balls of steel
@on1ytheb3st
@on1ytheb3st Год назад
@EBT Card Tell us you have no clue without telling us you have no clue. The difference between a pack of coyotes and a pack of Gray Wolves is the ability to bring down an adult Grizz; I'll let you ruminate over which one has that ability with your last two braincells.
@ebtcard3037
@ebtcard3037 Год назад
...yhw swonk doG ylnO
@skyforgerpack3645
@skyforgerpack3645 Год назад
@@on1ytheb3st You're the one with no clue. You're telling me, the dogs that have been used for hundreds of years, successfully, to scare off predators, can't deal with wolves, even though they do this in several countries? You clearly don't understand the use for LGDs, or why they are even still used to this day.
@Bakedea87
@Bakedea87 Год назад
​@@on1ytheb3stHow about three packs of coyotes? Or a hundred packs of chihuahuas? Lol
@Ap_twsh
@Ap_twsh Год назад
The wolves are the best thing to happen. Cattle aren’t natural.
@btsxanime81
@btsxanime81 Год назад
When you destroy habitat and take away the wolves food, you run into the risk of them going after cattle. Put up fences to keep the cattle from roaming all over. Cattle can also be the cause of overgrazing and erosion issues.
@bolbyballinger
@bolbyballinger Год назад
Free roaming cattle don't lead to overgrazing and erosion issues. That only happens when you fence them in. Really we should just be using factory farms. Much more space efficient and makes dealing with wolves a lot easier.
@btsxanime81
@btsxanime81 Год назад
@@bolbyballinger Thanks for clearing that up for me. :) I agree.
@hans5130
@hans5130 Год назад
So many people on the earth is the problem.
@jercasgav
@jercasgav Год назад
Then how do you propose to fix this supposed "problem"??
@NWard1210
@NWard1210 Год назад
@@TheKnoxviciousHaving as many kids as we want on a planet with finite resources is a big part of the problem, especially when we’re fighting against nature. The sooner we start working with it, the more sustainable it is for all life, not just us.
@Reed411
@Reed411 Год назад
@@TheKnoxvicious lol this guy's comments are hilarious. Keep posting! Not because they are smart or clever, but because you're making everyone else in the room look like a genius 😂
@keithgreenan638
@keithgreenan638 Год назад
They should introduce wolves to Los Angeles and New york.
@Reed411
@Reed411 Год назад
They are trying to re-introduce the red wolf to New York
@yossarianmnichols9641
@yossarianmnichols9641 Год назад
The fact that Colorado has massive numbers of elk and deer suggest maybe a few wolves could keep them in check.
@joesee8079
@joesee8079 Год назад
If you knew anything about repopulating wolves you would know it's only a few wolves for a very short time. In 10 years they will be everywhere, killing everything around them.
@JohnSmith-ef2sp
@JohnSmith-ef2sp Год назад
Besides man, what hunts wolves? Before long there will be a wolf behind every tree.
@1ACL
@1ACL Год назад
Mountain lions are top, i think. and we dont have too many of them because they are top. So...wolves wont get out of hand..
@rgt321
@rgt321 Год назад
@@1ACL Wolves won't get out of hand? They're already out of hand. So are the grizzlies
@micheledietrick265
@micheledietrick265 Год назад
The ranchers need to get herds of donkeys and large protector dogs to guard their cows.
@KFrost-fx7dt
@KFrost-fx7dt Год назад
North Park is completely overrun with cattle. They're everywhere. I don't know how these ranchers expect the wolves to resist temptation.
@ragecave518
@ragecave518 Год назад
I support reintroduction but there also has to be measures to help out the ranchers with de-predation efforts, whether that’s money for fencing or whatnot.
@zairaclaine8685
@zairaclaine8685 Год назад
They can easily get a livestock dog
@MrTeamBringIt123
@MrTeamBringIt123 Год назад
@@zairaclaine8685 a hungry wolf won’t give a crap
@MercenaryMuse
@MercenaryMuse Год назад
Does there actually?
@Ap_twsh
@Ap_twsh Год назад
Yes but that’s a risk they take and should consider pivoting their business strategy. They should raise more deer and get funds by the government in compensation
@manifestdestiny1191
@manifestdestiny1191 Год назад
@@zairaclaine8685 they should probably get a few. One is no good vs a pack. But yes, livestock guardian dogs are the answer.
@thomashiggins9320
@thomashiggins9320 Год назад
I like the idea of using dogs to keep the wolves away from livestock; also, hazing, as long as it doesn't injure the wolves. That said, Colorado is only used for grazing because so much open land existed for so long. Most of the pasture land, here, consists of short-grass prairie that actually rates as lousy for grazing. It takes more than 13 acres, here, to feed a cow with a nursing calf (a "cattle-unit"). By contrast, in most of the humid, tall-grass prairie of the Midwest, or the rainy meadows of the Old South, it takes less than a third of that land to graze. Up in the Willamette Valley of Oregon, not only does a cattle-unit need only about 3.5 acres (as compared to Colorado's 13 or more), the grass stays green for 10 months a year. In that part of Colorado, Gittleson probably sees winters that last 5 months. (The realities of agriculture economics would have been good to include in such a story, but television "news" has always been long on evocation of emotion and short on presentation of boring stuff such as *facts* ... 🙄) Still, that raises the question: Do we support a way of life that has existed for more than 150 years, in Colorado, even though the land has never been well-suited for it? Or do we return more of the territory to its natural state, knowing that other parts of the country can easily make up for any lost production, here, with land that's actually *better* for the job? For ranchers, the answer is easy -- but then, they have a vested interest. For the rest of us without a vested interest, not so much. In Colorado, we expressed our preferences for "not so much" directly, with the vote on the ballot measure.
@wcb5890
@wcb5890 Год назад
nobody uses "cattle-unit" the correct use is AU as in (Animal Unit) or AUM (Animal Unit Month) when figuring out grazing allotments. Also, in whole there should be no ballet box wildlife management. Especially ones that do not include proven management practices like hunting and trapping. You really think getting rid of ranching and not somewhat supporting it is the answer? You think that land is just going to go back to its natural state? Ranchers go out of business and leave more land gets developed for idiots like the ones that voted for the reintroduction and people who use Cattle Units as a measurement.
@Liberals.suck303
@Liberals.suck303 Год назад
Thomas- your comments show me you know absolutely nothing about wolves, ranching and their way of life. The fact you think dogs and hazing will work is absurd and you may want to look into why a little more. Destroying ranching for a animal that never existed in the lower 48 is even more crazy. WBC below nails it on the head. This is why you don't let ppl like you vote on this. Why do think the fish and game from Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Minnesota Wisconsin and the Dakotas told us not to do it?!? I get that they might help the eco system, but the negatives of wolves don't even come close to the positives. also If the issues are what they say, they are. why are they not going dead smack in the middle of rocky mountain national park? If you don't have to deal with the wolves , you should have no say.
@capsitan
@capsitan Год назад
Please reintroduce Manbearpig into Colorado as well
@rostamr4096
@rostamr4096 Год назад
The solution is easy. The ranchers should get Kangal dogs and lots of them. This way the cattle are protected and wolf can go after elks and cayots...
@rippindrummer666
@rippindrummer666 Год назад
My sister has 4 kangal/Anatolian Shepards, they’re beast dogs but they still don’t match with wolves.
@CarShopping101
@CarShopping101 Год назад
@@rippindrummer666 Its not about which dog or wolf would win in a fight. Wolves will always go for the easiest prey so they are not interested in fighting four or five 150 lb Kangals and risking serious injury. It's about deterrence.
@jimmymarsh44
@jimmymarsh44 Год назад
The reintroduction measure that passed in CO ensures ranchers will get compensated for every cow they lose. Is it a perfect system? No. They have to provide all kinds of proof and the money they get isn't necessarily how much that specific cow may have been worth. But fight for ways to improve that system. Don't fight against the wolves that were here long before you.
@gabrielford3473
@gabrielford3473 Год назад
That's a reasonable comment!!! Cheers and you're exactly right
@CarShopping101
@CarShopping101 Год назад
Or they could spend less than $10K one time and purchase 4 or 5 large guardian dogs and not have to worry about this but they are too cheap to spend the money.
@jackpumkinhead9583
@jackpumkinhead9583 Год назад
that’s a cowardly response of someone that doesn’t actually have to deal with this problem and at the end of the day the people that actually have to deal with it will deal with it in their own way. Somethings you can’t wait on the lazy long arm of the government because in these wilderness areas, it’s deliberate living they don’t have time for committees out here.
@grandpaissues4156
@grandpaissues4156 Год назад
​@@jackpumkinhead9583 Cattle grazing on public lands isn't that independent to this Midwesterner where ranchers own their land. Sign of the times. The hand is out for every public subsidy with no regard for public benefit. Should the government give them dogs AND free grazing?
@tristancoffin
@tristancoffin Год назад
​@@jackpumkinhead9583 I would pay for your product at marked up price if you buy dogs and get fences. However if you raise the native bison they tend to faire better against the wolves anyway. Just a thought.
@stan4now
@stan4now Год назад
Thank you CBS for reporting on this crucial issue to restore wolves and balance out the increase of other wildlife. Ranchers have a right to protect their livestock and need to be allowed to do so.
@Amidat
@Amidat Год назад
livestock guardian dogs existed for centuries to keep wolves away from cattle... then humans thought it was easier to just shoot... that ruined the ecosystem.
@Reed411
@Reed411 Год назад
* but should try preventative measures before going to their guns.
@Dyltheboy
@Dyltheboy 4 месяца назад
Wolves are such an important part of the ecosystem
@dalepellerin
@dalepellerin Год назад
They were here before all of these domesticated animals. Bring them back. Love ‘em
@joecole7122
@joecole7122 7 месяцев назад
Bears were in LA before humans. Let's bring 'em back.
@coondogsoutdooradventures2484
Now any rural resident knows that the Wolf being reintroduced without predator control is a mistake . The locals should have always had the right to defend their property, especially since they are not fully compensated. Outsiders need to mind their business. We don't tell them how to live .
@djcodea
@djcodea Год назад
I believe wolves are a part of Colorado's ecosystem that belong here. I would like to see more highway wildlife crossings under byways , I worked on Mt Massive when I saw my first wolf, couldn't believe it was real and forest service confirmed it.. mountain lions need a lot of range and our valuable predators need to be protected hard core. To be honest, they look tough, but they are the most vulnerable mathematically
@Kenny-bj2zq
@Kenny-bj2zq Год назад
Lived in Alaska and lived in Texas - If you want to live out in the wilderness then you should not have an issue with wildlife - It's simple if a Wolf Kills your cattle get a check from the State within a month. It's a win win for the wolf and the rancher.............Yeah, I don't live in Colorado but I live in Texas and have cattle I have seen tons of Coyotes and a few Cougars have never lost a cow yet to one of them. And no have never killed one I have shot at the Coyotes as far as the Cougar they so damn beautiful and hardly ever see one in daylight
@billwesner6351
@billwesner6351 6 месяцев назад
Glad we have liberal folks like you to protect the world .@@Kenny-bj2zq
@reedschrichte800
@reedschrichte800 4 месяца назад
Public lands ranching in the West accounts for less than 1% of the US beef supply. These ranchers ACT LIKE THEY OWN THE LAND. THEY DO NOT OWN THE LAND!!!
@georgkoenig4459
@georgkoenig4459 6 месяцев назад
First pair of high-heeled hiking boots I've ever seen. 😂 I remember growing up in rural Texas in the early 70's farmers would hang the coyote skins on the fenceposts.
@ebr-fan1117
@ebr-fan1117 Год назад
Reintroduce them to Colorado's major cities where the voting population resides; as that is what they voted for.
@Reed411
@Reed411 Год назад
Lots of anti-wolf advocates love saying this, but what they don't realize is that it only paints them as being completely incompetent in their ability to actually debate the subject. We didn't vote for them to be in the cities. Here, read a little: *Colorado Proposition 114* *The measure was designed to require the Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission to create and carry out a plan to reintroduce and manage gray wolves (Canis lupus) by the end of 2023. Under the measure, wolves were set to be reintroduced on Colorado lands west of the continental divide* WEST of the continental divide... not east.
@ebr-fan1117
@ebr-fan1117 Год назад
@@Reed411 you said enough to let me know you voted to make someone else's life harder in hopes that you could somehow benefit from it.
@Reed411
@Reed411 Год назад
@@ebr-fan1117 I only said you didn’t know what you were talking about.
@Ap_twsh
@Ap_twsh Год назад
Wolfs are great.
@IvanIvanoIvanovich
@IvanIvanoIvanovich Год назад
@@ebr-fan1117 Cry me a river.
@hotttt28
@hotttt28 Год назад
Let nature be nature !
@TheKnoxvicious
@TheKnoxvicious Год назад
Yes, allow the ranchers to do what nature has allowed them to
@gabrielford3473
@gabrielford3473 Год назад
@@TheKnoxvicious does your head hurt when you try to think?
@charlessmith4242
@charlessmith4242 Год назад
@@gabrielford3473 * What makes you think that man is not part of the ecosystem?
@Reed411
@Reed411 Год назад
@@charlessmith4242 yes, the ecosystem of adults with an average education of a 6th grader.
@Mace-cq9lo
@Mace-cq9lo 4 месяца назад
@@TheKnoxviciousUse way too much land and expect other animals to not do anything? We aren’t the only ones on earth. We aren’t entitled to anything really.
@zur13l13
@zur13l13 10 дней назад
We can't live without Nature, but Nature certainly can live without us!
@roefamily
@roefamily Год назад
AND the wolves being re-introduce...wait they are ALREADY in Colorado..as the Video documents......this "Yellowstone" wolf was NEVER historically in Colorado. Colorado had wolves, a smaller species...now extinct (sad) but the "yellowstone species" ..we have NO record of it being in Colorado
@alansach8437
@alansach8437 Год назад
Did you miss the part about how wolves travel? If they were in Alberta they were (historically) in Yellowstone. If they were in Yellowstone (historically) they were in Colorado. They will travel wherever there is suitable habitat.
@rosssmith9941
@rosssmith9941 Год назад
Coyotes and wolves are so beautiful
@rack9458
@rack9458 Год назад
To a citiot!
@Greenpeppersandeggs
@Greenpeppersandeggs Год назад
@Rack Not everyone is sterotypeable.
@rack9458
@rack9458 Год назад
@@Greenpeppersandeggs Correct, but in looking at where the blind support of reintroducing wolves comes from city dwellers. They don't live in reality of wolves killing livestock, pets, and decimating the moose population. The state of Minnesota has over 3 times the population of wolves than the DNR deemed appropriate levels. Yet they won't allow hunting wolves to bring them back into balance. Wolves are a valuable balancing act of nature but they need management.
@Greenpeppersandeggs
@Greenpeppersandeggs Год назад
Rack I’m just saying there is at least one city dweller who’s experienced what you describe.
@rosssmith9941
@rosssmith9941 Год назад
@@rack9458 I'm going to bring wolves to your property
@davidolson8559
@davidolson8559 Год назад
So many ranchers use public land for their profit of raising cattle. It’s public land your using and the public wants wolves. Long live the wolf.
@jefftrahern616
@jefftrahern616 Год назад
You sound just like one of those guys that need to buy a ranch or two so that you can show us all how it's done !
@65stang98
@65stang98 Год назад
sine the elk are so overpopulated in some of these states itd be nice if theyd transport them to states that dont have thema nymore that used to. They recently did it successfuly in kentucky and they are working on it in west virginia as well.
@danielbethanyweltzin1918
@danielbethanyweltzin1918 Год назад
Elk are not “so overpopulated” in most states. Colorado by far has the largest heard on earth and has made it a great elk hunting opportunity state (not for long…). Also, they actually have been doing that in quite a few states-Kentucky, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, etc.
@JubioHDX
@JubioHDX Год назад
@@danielbethanyweltzin1918 the reason theyve been high opportunity states for elk is because they are overpopulated lol... they dont let you hunt animals that arent still in growing populations otherwise there would be rather slim pickings very shortly
@danielbethanyweltzin1918
@danielbethanyweltzin1918 Год назад
@@JubioHDX yes, I’m an avid whitetail, elk & Turkey hunter, so I realize that lol I’d rather there be an abundance of elk vs less or vs an abundance of wolves. If the last 20 years have taught us anything it’s that wolf populations can spiral out of control quickly (look at WI, MN, upper peninsula MI, MT, WY, and ID)
@bighaasfly
@bighaasfly Год назад
So awkward how they staged the interview with Joanna Lambert 12’ away. That felt weird.
@dfinma
@dfinma Год назад
Mother Nature has conducted nearly infinity experiments in order to figure out how things work. Human hubris to think we can manage the ecology is epic.
@trees42000
@trees42000 Год назад
Do you not consider yourself part of nature?
@metallicafan11787
@metallicafan11787 Год назад
Our hubris was eradicating an entire species from the area. We owe it to mother nature to help bring it back
@alansach8437
@alansach8437 Год назад
@@trees42000 Partly. If you strip naked and take your place in the ecosystem, you are part of nature. But when people started building machines, using guns and poison, they removed themselves from " nature".
@Reed411
@Reed411 Год назад
@@trees42000 That's a terribly philosophical and complicated questions to answer over RU-vid comments. It sounds more like a bate than anything.
@trees42000
@trees42000 Год назад
@@Reed411 I think it’s terribly simple. I think the majority of city people don’t think of themselves as part of the landscape and eco system. Rather they feel “nature” is an area outside their normal home range. We’re part of the ecosystem whether we’re a hunter or a hiker. While I’ll concede we’re an arrogant species, we have a pretty good understanding of a lot of things and it’s in our best interest to help create a balance. Yes, “mother nature” could eventually work it out but why take the risk? Snow shoe hairs and foxes come to mind. They’re in a constant state of extinction and overpopulation. I just don’t feel like that needs to be the case anymore.
@sunday8979
@sunday8979 Год назад
Denver city residents know what’s best for rural ranches
@Reed411
@Reed411 Год назад
Maybe they just don't care. And maybe that's justified given the ranchers... history
@kingsburybm
@kingsburybm Год назад
A high powered paintball gun would probably work better than chasing them. Wouldn't do any permanent damage either.
@JPannel
@JPannel Год назад
Sure, if you don't need to sleep
@elaine8477
@elaine8477 Год назад
Ranchers should be compensated for all lost cattle. However, hopefully the wolves will cull the chronic wasting disease deer and make the deer population healthier.
@peterguercio9504
@peterguercio9504 Год назад
I think the reintroduction of wolves to their former range is a good idea, but ranchers should be fully compensated for any and all losses. Like a problem grizzly or black bear any problem wolves should be removed either by relocation first or if they return hunted and killed.
@xoxo0073
@xoxo0073 Год назад
No….people just need to stop eating so much meat. Bears, jaguars, and wolves have lost 98% of their natural habitat to make more room for cattle. Much of which will end up in your hamburger.
@johnd1655
@johnd1655 Год назад
you don't get to destroy nature just because you want a cheeseburger. This is their land just as much as it is ours.
@lastcoyote2355
@lastcoyote2355 Год назад
Rancher welfare…. I use to hunt on lands owned by ranchers and farmers . Just a simple request to the the landowner . Now the landowner…. Ranchers/ farmers ask for $$$$ to hunt , then in turn they get game damage from the government . These same landowners condemn the government… yet have no problem taking money from the government ….
@suzyque1444
@suzyque1444 Год назад
They're not introducing native wolves, but arctic wolves which are not, NOT indigenous to the area. If they want to thin the heards of wild deer and elk, why not lower the price of hunting tags so people can feed their families?
@hyenaboy7504
@hyenaboy7504 Год назад
They won't destroy the ecosystem, though.
@shawnmurray9964
@shawnmurray9964 Год назад
So glad to see the wolves thriving, so glad.
@seeharvester
@seeharvester Год назад
So what you're saying is, you're glad to see that rancher suffering. A fellow human being. Who is suppling you with food.
@shawnmurray9964
@shawnmurray9964 Год назад
@@seeharvester lol, good one Becky
@seeharvester
@seeharvester Год назад
@@shawnmurray9964 Anytime.
@FEARNoMore
@FEARNoMore Год назад
@@seeharvester Rather than making it political. Let's look at it from both sides. The rancher has a right to profit & nature & us nature lovers have the right to restore what was there before the rancher. To restore a predator that kept other wildlife in check for the good of nature. He was compensated for his loss. There are solutions that can benefit both sides. FYI, this rancher is only supplying food for people who eat beef.
@seeharvester
@seeharvester Год назад
@@FEARNoMore Wolves are smart. Let the rancher shoot a couple that are killing his cattle, and the rest will go elsewhere. Or, we could round up the pack and move them to your neighborhood and let them have at your pets and children, and maybe you. Actually, maybe that's the best solution. Then you could "love" nature up close and personal.
@J57133
@J57133 Год назад
No mention at all of how this will effect big game hunting, one of Colorado’s largest industries and most popular activities. Also no mention if the big game populations can support these wolf populations considering they have been impacted severely by human encroachment in the last several decades.
@kevinkarsnia109
@kevinkarsnia109 Год назад
Do some online research, I suggest the Voyageur's Wolf Project from northern Minnesota, wolves were never wiped out there and they've done extensive studies. Wolves' diets vary drastically depending on the available food and time of year. For example, beaver's and blueberries make up a large part of their diet in northern MN. Deer and moose are harder to take down in the summer time, except for fawns. Hunter's complain sometimes about them chasing deer out of their hunting area but overall I think hunters still do well.
@gabrielford3473
@gabrielford3473 Год назад
In Montana, the Elk population has definitely declined since the reintroduction effort almost 30 years ago. However, the number of elk harvested each year has remained unchanged. It may be more difficult, but the opportunities are still there. As for the commercial aspect, I don't think anyone could honestly make the claim that the industry has suffered and is, in fact, thriving.
@jedidiah2118
@jedidiah2118 Год назад
This works out actually because theres also a big feral pig invasion going on too i see this balancing out
@Wes82778
@Wes82778 Год назад
There are few if any feral pigs swine in Colorado. The few that have made it up that way are taken care of immediately. The few wolves that are in Colorado have already started killing family pets and within 30 yards of the homes.
@jedidiah2118
@jedidiah2118 Год назад
@@Wes82778 It will take time....
@JubioHDX
@JubioHDX Год назад
@@Wes82778 the feral pigs have been moving northward into canada, which is more relevant considering this isnt just about colorado its about the fact that both wolves are returning more towards the south and the pigs are already here/meeting them in the middle
@trv518
@trv518 Год назад
One solution for the ranchers is to substitute their cattle for bison. Bison are much better equipped to deal with wolves.
@ecburt5046
@ecburt5046 Год назад
It's probably been mentioned, but can ranchers use donkeys, llamas or dogs to protect their herds?? I had a llama for my flock of sheep...worked very well.
@Ap_twsh
@Ap_twsh Год назад
Ranchers could get paid to raise deer elk or whatever prey the wolves eat, then wolves will go for the deer.
@bolbyballinger
@bolbyballinger Год назад
Some wolves aren't much bigger than a husky. These are not those wolves. These guys are massive. Basically fluffy Great Danes. They hunt bison and their close relatives in Siberia went after wild horses. The dogs might work due to them having their own pack to fall back on and their ability to maybe be peacebrokers (fellow canids and all). And like I said these are big wolves. You're gonna need big dogs. But the donkeys and llamas are just food that complains.
@JubioHDX
@JubioHDX Год назад
@@bolbyballinger wolves are not nearly as bold as dogs are. we assume they are because we are so used to dogs being so fearless to interact with other animals but a wolf will not approach anything that looks like it wants to actually fight back unless its the very last option possible, their hypersociality also leads to them being much more willing to stand their ground and fight something bigger than them (like fight a bull in its prime 1 on 1 and win, which is something people forget domestic dogs do, and a wolf would never dream of taking that risk) a Group of 3-4 Large Guard dogs will scare away any wolf pack it encounters, that fight just isnt worth it to the wolves who dont have humans to return to to get fixed up
@hunterh7026
@hunterh7026 Год назад
Colorado didn't vote for this, boulder and denver did, big difference.
@lukespack
@lukespack Год назад
I thought Denver and Boulder were still in Colorado?
@DonCoyoteDeLaMange
@DonCoyoteDeLaMange Год назад
Go wolves!!!
@richpaydirt
@richpaydirt Год назад
Matters regarding wildlife and wildlife management should never be opened to a public vote. The people residing in cities will never have to deal with the problems. Thankfully, I live in a common sense state where wolf hunting is allowed but a liberal state like Washington or Colorado would rather spend millions in taxpayers dollars to reimburse cattle ranchers for dead cows than allow hunting of wolves once their population has skyrocketed.
@hyenaboy7504
@hyenaboy7504 Год назад
Pretty sure there are people in cities who understand how nature works, as well.
@SmedleyDouwright
@SmedleyDouwright Год назад
Let the ranchers shoot wolves on their land. The surviving wolves will learn to stay away.
@bollweevil8112
@bollweevil8112 Год назад
How much do people need to sacrifice for farmers growing a product that most doctors are telling us to stop eating? Bison are a more practical option
@joesee8079
@joesee8079 Год назад
Except most doctors are not saying that. Has your doctor told you that? I didn't think so.
@gabrielford3473
@gabrielford3473 Год назад
YES YES YES
@gabrielford3473
@gabrielford3473 Год назад
pretty easy to find data supporting his claim. go away and talk to your doctor about better living and a better attitude.
@ErelasInglor
@ErelasInglor Год назад
Easy for all the voters that live on the front range to say this is a great idea, when they don't have to deal with the wolves being released on a regular basis, nor have to worry about their livestock and extra money to deter/protect them from wolves. Should have let them naturally come into the state like they were doing instead of putting valuable resources toward their reintroduction...money which could have been better off increasing and making better quality habitat for current species struggling in the state, like the Lesser Pinnated Grouse and Sage Grouse. *sigh*
@yvonneadams9334
@yvonneadams9334 Год назад
What type of wolf was reintroduced. Was it native to the area?
@rorysymons3256
@rorysymons3256 Год назад
No way bigger 😮 Canadian
@Reed411
@Reed411 Год назад
Don't listen to these guys. The are just recycling information from local forums and news papers which often times misrepresent certain pieces of information. They are reintroducing the Canadian grey wolf which had a range that stretched from Northern Alaska and Canada all the way down to the southern Rockies like Colorado and even as far south as NM. If you care to know more, there is more information bellow- There were 26 subspecies of grey wolf that lived in North America until the end of the 19th century. But in reality, those 26 subspecies can typically be broken into 4 genetically diverse groups- arctic, mountain (timber), plains and Mexican. The plains species is officially extinct and were the smallest, but the other three remain. The whole "sub-species" argument is hardly worth reckoning as their genetics were virtually identical. Colorado had it's own subspecies yes, the Southern Rocky Mountain wolf, but it also had a few others including the Canadian grey which populated pretty much anywhere in the west with alpine and lowland boreal forests. The myth that we are reintroducing bigger wolves is simply not true. The Southern Rocky Mountain wolf was one of the largest wolfs in the world. Fossil records even make the argument that they were indeed the biggest in North America. Remember, CO used to be home to rich ecosystems with LARGE fauna. This wolf and Canadian Grey often interbred and shared much of the same genetics. Bottom line, we aren't re-introducing anything that wasn't already here.
@desmeisme
@desmeisme Год назад
I didn’t even know there was wild wolves in America
@kristenkaz3080
@kristenkaz3080 Год назад
They’re found in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, the Dakotas, etc etc-they’re in all 48 states.
@markw999
@markw999 Год назад
@@kristenkaz3080 Not anymore they're not. Reintroduced to the Rockies but in most areas they've been gone for a long time. Small population of Red Wolves in S. Carolina. I think the smaller wolf in Florida is gone now but it hung on for quite a while. Can't remember the name.
@oneeyedman99
@oneeyedman99 Год назад
@@kristenkaz3080 No, it's coyotes that are in all of the lower 48. Gray wolves are in about a dozen states so far.
@Nocomment552
@Nocomment552 Год назад
Not as much as before, but they’re there.
@skysthelimitvideos
@skysthelimitvideos Год назад
Tons in Yellowstone and Alaska. We need to work on raising their numbers elsewhere
@cm1642
@cm1642 Год назад
Ranchers need to get over it. The environment is more important. There's no reason to let cows roam that far.
@OutdoorTonez
@OutdoorTonez 6 месяцев назад
Yes❤
@Kenny-bj2zq
@Kenny-bj2zq Год назад
Let's be honest a lot of ranchers lease there land to hunters and probably make more money leasing then they do selling there cattle even though beef prices are at an all time high but that is a different topic. (Brandon was Supposed to Fix This) - So like I said the money is in hunting - Elk hunting is where the money is at and hunters don't want to compete with the Wolf.....
@Reed411
@Reed411 Год назад
haven't hunters competed with wolves for millennia? I mean what happened, did they get too used to their deer blinds and sitting ducks? Sounds like a tracking and skill issue to me.
@Pohbro
@Pohbro Год назад
@@Reed411 tell me you’ve never been elk hunting without telling me you’ve never been elk hunting.
@Reed411
@Reed411 Год назад
​@@Pohbro Doesn't make me wrong and you know it. The world won't stop for them, they need to adapt.
@edwardabrams4972
@edwardabrams4972 Год назад
A rancher should be entitled to protect his farm from wild animals period! How stupid fish and game have become! Then they won’t let hunters hunt the wild game but thinks it’s great that wolves do!
@gabrielford3473
@gabrielford3473 Год назад
As soon as the reintroduction begins, they will be able to protect their animals. It is unfortunate and wrong, I believe, that he can't already, but that's unfortunately a different fight. Go wolves and go ranchers go science and GO YOU!!!
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