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How The Red Wedding Ruined Our Lives 

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The Lannisters send their regards. Let's take a look at the Red Wedding. This will be the first of many Game of Thrones related video essays by A Matter of Film.
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For years, we have been conditioned as viewers to understand an important aspect in storytelling: The central conflict usually remains at the center until the end of the story. The Lord of The Rings, for example, is the story of Frodo Baggins, a young hobbit who must take the one ring and destroy in in the fires of Mount Doom. In Breaking Bad, Walter White, a high school chemistry teacher turns to a life of crime to make and distribute crystal meth on the streets to make sure his family is financially secure after he is diagnosed with lung cancer. In both of these stories, this is the conflict that stays at the center for the entire duration of the narrative. It’s what you say when people ask what that story is about. Game of Thrones is a little harder to explain. For the first three seasons, the show was divided into three major plotlines: The War of the Five Kings, Dany’s storyline as she builds an army on Essos and the Night’s Watch plot. But Westeros’ medieval war was the primary storyline for these first few seasons and at the center of it lay the main conflict of the show: Starks vs. Lannisters. Game of Thrones fans know exactly why Season Three’s penultimate episode The Rains of Castamere is so important. Today we’ll explore the significance and legacy of the episode.
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@AMatterofFilm
@AMatterofFilm 5 лет назад
SPOILERS for Game of Thrones Seasons 1-7!!! Support us on Patreon and get Producer Credits! www.patreon.com/amatterofilm Hey guys! This is hopefully the first of many Game of Thrones related videos, so we hope you liked it! We've been waiting to do this one for a while, the editing was a major time consumer but it was worth it. Is there another episode of Game of Thrones you would like us to talk about?
@elmojedburgh3481
@elmojedburgh3481 5 лет назад
A Matter of Film I Recommend Nightcrawler Or No Country For Old Men
@jjollu
@jjollu 5 лет назад
Please video-analyze the season 2 Battle of the Blackwater episode
@nasaralam2693
@nasaralam2693 5 лет назад
"If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention."
@arckocsog253
@arckocsog253 5 лет назад
You fight make more got videos, though:(
@kanekashton3972
@kanekashton3972 3 года назад
@Hezekiah Abdiel yea, been using Flixzone for years myself =)
@Xiiao21
@Xiiao21 5 лет назад
The entire sequence with Catelyn at the wedding is a hauntingly beautiful direction. We see her feeling uneasy at first as the doors are locked and the music starts to play, then worried after sitting down with Roose, you can see her breathing getting heavier and faster, and then the final moment, panic as she discovers the armor under his clothes. Michelle Fairley is criminally underrated. It's outrageous she was never even nominated.
@AMatterofFilm
@AMatterofFilm 5 лет назад
I still say to this day her performance in this episode is one of the best of all time.
@Xiiao21
@Xiiao21 5 лет назад
Honestly you're right. The scene will be remembered for a very long time, I just wish she was given the recognition she deserves. Her acting in it is, without question, one of the best performances of all time.
@mickyjoe97
@mickyjoe97 5 лет назад
Yet Emilia Clarke has received several nominations. She's a good actress but Michelle Fairley was incredible in those first 3 seasons and the Red Wedding should have been her Emmy episode.
@eoincampbell1584
@eoincampbell1584 5 лет назад
Yes! I really wish they went with the lady-stone heart plot line so that she could continue acting in the show.
@dynamicworlds1
@dynamicworlds1 5 лет назад
Her reaction was pretty close to mine watching it. I was very on edge as soon as the doors closed and knew for sure what was about to happen by the mere 2nd note of the Rains of Castamere. But yes, she played the part masterfully through the whole party, and that was vital to the scene working as well as it did (especially for those of us who weren't as blindsided as most reaction videos).
@KainedbutAble123
@KainedbutAble123 5 лет назад
A shame the show didn’t stick to these principles. The last season was some of the most predictable storytelling I have seen.
@ThreesixnineGF
@ThreesixnineGF 5 лет назад
"We knew we had to put a zombie polar bear in there" - dude that doesn't know what Game of Thrones stands for
@TheGeorgeD13
@TheGeorgeD13 5 лет назад
Really? I couldn't predict one iota of the season myself.
@KainedbutAble123
@KainedbutAble123 5 лет назад
George Daugherty without posting spoilers, anyone who didn’t predict the romance between two key characters would have to be braindead.
@thefrontgames217
@thefrontgames217 5 лет назад
And the heroes turned invincible. They didn't have the books anymore and the writers are not as skilled as George R.R. Martin.
@Exel3nce
@Exel3nce 5 лет назад
RheyaRu!z do you even know what a hipster is, kid ?
@hkay93
@hkay93 5 лет назад
Shout out to Ramin Djawadi though. He's been a stalwart for Game of Thrones and the scenes wouldn't be the same without his fantastic music.
@AMatterofFilm
@AMatterofFilm 5 лет назад
The man's a genius.
@dlilwon
@dlilwon 5 лет назад
🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 legend
@tomasvrabec1845
@tomasvrabec1845 5 лет назад
One of the best parts of the show. Luckily also nice to listen on its own.
@RinkelJeroen
@RinkelJeroen Год назад
Absolutely, but the absence of music can be just as powerful, as proven by the silent end credits after the red wedding.
@nensha5084
@nensha5084 2 года назад
Lady Catelyn is the most tragic character in the entire series in my opinion. She died believing all her children are dead, and the only “Stark” left is Jon Snow, a bastard boy from Ned who betrayed her love, with another woman. She literally saw her entire heritage die before her, and she was the last to die. It’s an incredibly disturbing and depressing story.
@ruerueruerueruerue
@ruerueruerueruerue 10 месяцев назад
i agree that catelyn’s whole arc was pretty tragic (esp her ending) but c’mon theon exists
@soso694
@soso694 9 месяцев назад
​@@ruerueruerueruerueTheon deserved some (but not all) of the things that happened to him. He could only be redeemed by sacrificing himself imo.
@TheHellyeahmen
@TheHellyeahmen 6 месяцев назад
Cat never thought Ned betrayed her when Jon was born they barely knew each other
@Lordsuhn
@Lordsuhn 5 лет назад
Benioff and Weiss are getting too much credit for the story and structure of this show. They literally just copied what Martin wrote. The last season proved they are not nearly as good without Martin's writings to copy. - It do think they deserve credit for excellence in interpretation of source material.
@BlackCampariBlue
@BlackCampariBlue 5 лет назад
@Mystique Dreamer asshole = A Matter of Film? If you meant that I seriously doubt you understood the point of the video
@oidana
@oidana 5 лет назад
WHAT, the bring this to TV. Did you ever Watch how good Battle of the Bastards is, i never see some battle in my hole life. This dont make GGRM this make Benioff and Weiss, the film it and plan it. We should be happy that dont peter Jackson make Game of Thrones i bet it would be not so good!
@Satanthony
@Satanthony 5 лет назад
Martin (self admittedly) copied other people so it comes full circle
@BlackCampariBlue
@BlackCampariBlue 5 лет назад
@@Satanthony It's common for writers to "copy" real people for their characters or rather to take certain aspects of different people and build the characters out of these. Tolstoi did this for example. So as you see, the most realistic personas in literature were inspired by the observations the writers did in their environment. Besides, it is not as easy as it sounds. In order to create realistic and coherent characters the writer needs to have not only a social understanding but writing skills as well to transform complex real beings into beings built of words. I assume lots of writers find inspiration in people they know though not every writer makes them feel real for the reader, as Martin does for example.
@liv97497
@liv97497 5 лет назад
@@oidana are you insane? The Battle of the Bastards doesn't hold a candle to the Red Wedding. What lives on, what makes a series so great, is the soul, the core "values". Not cool visuals and action-packed sequences.
@portsidedyldo2661
@portsidedyldo2661 5 лет назад
Same thing with oberyn, that’s the first time I’ve ever heard a story where the character gets his revenge denied, not only that but in such a brutal way too. I couldn’t sleep after I watched that episode
@mixnflix101
@mixnflix101 5 лет назад
The Mountain and the Viper was the peak of GOT for me.
@lyricalyellow8653
@lyricalyellow8653 5 лет назад
That scene literally haunted me to my core, not only because of the horrifying nature of his death, but also the fact that the Mountain won and Oberyn died without getting to avenge his sister. It's so heartbreaking and horrifying at the same time.
@gigicestone4902
@gigicestone4902 5 лет назад
The ending of that fight was so fucking stupid, both in the show and in the book, it doesn't matter if you're 8 feet tall, weigh 500lbs and can break trees with your hands, if you've had your tendons sliced and your guts pierced, the fight is over, you're not pulling some miraculous last-second takedown, your body simply hasn't the power to do so, no matter how strong you are when healthy, because at that point you are tremendously far from healthy.
@mr.orangeaide5260
@mr.orangeaide5260 5 лет назад
@@gigicestone4902 maybe but i think youre underestimating adrenaline, armour and just how fucking strong a dude like the mountain is. like in real life he bicep curls oberns entire bodyweight. there are exceptional cases of people surviving shotgun blasts to the chest for a good minute, benching cars off of them and breaking world running records all due to the raw adrenaline running through them.
@walterdayrit675
@walterdayrit675 5 лет назад
@@gigicestone4902 Oberyn should have gone for the head!! The Mountain did!!
@theonlymexicanman4422
@theonlymexicanman4422 5 лет назад
S1-6: You were the chosen one You were supposed to destroy clichés not add them S7: It’s for FANSERVICE!!!!
@Exel3nce
@Exel3nce 5 лет назад
lets say s1-4
@ThreesixnineGF
@ThreesixnineGF 5 лет назад
Ramsay was just a buffed up version of Geoffrey so yeah, 1 to 4 no further
@frankiefierro7129
@frankiefierro7129 5 лет назад
Well they ran out of source material so they pulled these last two seasons out of their ass
@TheGeorgeD13
@TheGeorgeD13 5 лет назад
Since when was the show supposed to destroy clichés. Destroy the clichés, nobody would watch them. People watch for the clichés they love to see.
@kasidyschnedler3522
@kasidyschnedler3522 5 лет назад
RheyaRu!z actually grrm is not involved with the show anymore. And hasn’t been in a while. He told D&D (the show runners) how the ending is supposed to be but how it gets there is not how the books are gonna be. Book will always be cannon though.
@MadsPeterIversen
@MadsPeterIversen 5 лет назад
Five years after... I'm still crying...
@Irraptured
@Irraptured 5 лет назад
Mads Peter Iversen I was laughing the first time I saw the scene lol
@petrosarvanitis2800
@petrosarvanitis2800 5 лет назад
Irrapture how?
@Irraptured
@Irraptured 5 лет назад
I don't know, I guess I just wasn't attached to their characters. I hated the girl that Robb got with. I mostly only liked Jon lol
@calin6327
@calin6327 5 лет назад
Weird. Most people relate to Robbs heroism, truth speaking, honour and being generally good but not overly ignorant person. Strange I guess
@Irraptured
@Irraptured 5 лет назад
Everybody has their opinions on characters :)
@djanavol
@djanavol 5 лет назад
Game Of Thrones is very easy to explain. Its a show about families fighting over control of a kingdom while unbeknownst to them a magical force is looming threatening to destroy the world as they know it.
@aegonii8471
@aegonii8471 5 лет назад
djanavol And That magic force is Danny and her dragons.
@djanavol
@djanavol 5 лет назад
No its not Dany its The Others...duh! People are aware of Dany and her dragons nobody is aware of The Others outside of the Wildlings and the Nights Watch. Plus dragons existed not that long ago within the timeline of the story, they even had Dragon bones in the Red Keep so that isn't far fetched because there is proof that they existed. Even dragons eggs those have always existed within that universe. The Others predate the dragons to the point that people think of them as myth including Dany who has dragons. So no Dany is NOT the magical force thank you very much!
@aegonii8471
@aegonii8471 5 лет назад
djanavol No everybody in the show is focusing on the wrong threat. Danny is a ticking time bomb. If she goes berserk like the mad king nothing will stop her.
@djanavol
@djanavol 5 лет назад
Your still wrong because people ARE aware of Dany. Robert had a hit put out on her so she is not UNKNOWN! Plus she isn't going to destroy the world which is what you seem to have been missing from what I said the SUMMARY of the ENTIRE series. Even GRRM summarized it as such which is families fighting over a throne while a threat greater than ANY OF THEM REALIZE threatens to destroy the entire world!You missed the entire point of my first comment which was in response to the the video creator claiming Game of Thrones being hard to explain after summarizing Breaking Bad and Lord of The Rings smh!The first book /episode OPENS with The Others.Also you must really not understand Dany's core characterization she would never go BESERK like the mad king she doesn't take pleasure in torturing people she has moments of "rage" but thats always in reaction to an event and yes would she teeter in villiany in the books probably but she will NEVER go full mad king.
@joshido7352
@joshido7352 5 лет назад
djanavol i think she will become a villain. Thats part of the bittersweet ending GRRM was talking about. We spend an entire series rooting for her but the end she will do sonething unforgivable ending the series with a bad taste in our mouths
@DrJamez
@DrJamez 5 лет назад
I still remember the feeling of watching the dead quiet ending credits of that episode. Just in shock from the amazing script and acting that brought that final scene together
@michadomeracki5910
@michadomeracki5910 Год назад
In this show everyone can die... even the fukng show. There is no GoT after the season 4. haha they killed the show in the season 4 damn.
@bibekkoirala352
@bibekkoirala352 Год назад
@@michadomeracki5910 more like season 6 battle of bastard, winds of winter and many more exist in season 6 . Don't be bandwagon hater
@michadomeracki5910
@michadomeracki5910 Год назад
@@bibekkoirala352 Okey what was good in the season 5?
@dahannes6739
@dahannes6739 Месяц назад
​@@michadomeracki5910bro season 5 was super mediocre but seadon 6-8 is one of the worst writing after Fear the Walking Dead
@viktorsilva4017
@viktorsilva4017 5 лет назад
Game of Thrones soundtrack... it's not only good by itself, but it's so heavy, you can feel the weight of what happened so far, a thousand images fly by your head so fast, like you've just watched all of it's seasons in less than one second, Ygrette's death, Jon and Thormund's friendship, the Red Wedding, king Tommen's suicide, Robert Baratheon's death, the Hound with Arya Stark, "I wish i had enough poison for the whole pack of you !", Eddard Stark. All of those feelings coming back at the same time...
@timocruz510
@timocruz510 5 лет назад
Jon's Death was so well done. That shit was absolutely heart wrenching with the violin. Olly?!
@esmurrembam
@esmurrembam 5 лет назад
Ned would've never married another girl if he was already compromised to marry a Frey girl. Robb lost the war the moment he married Talissa...I believe it's a line of a character of the show
@mns2137
@mns2137 5 лет назад
well, if ned fallen sick while engaged to frey girl and delirious slept with some other girl then, he as well as Robb would feel guilty and would want to restore the girls honor before his. which is what happens in the books
@GabisonStudios
@GabisonStudios 5 лет назад
Robb lost the war the moment he sent Theon to the Iron Islands, not when he broke his marriage pact. It is this event that undermines his power and thus makes him look weak enough to the Freys and Bolton. Also, the show makes a blunder of this marriage thing. In the books, Robb sleeps with Jeyne Westerling because he is wounded and sad from the news of the death of Bran and Rickon. Thus he marries her. Which is another hint at Jon's true parentage. Robb is the image of his father. Robb preferred to soil his honor rather than Jeyne's. Because she might carry his child. And so he did like his father would have done, taken the blame and stick to his responsibilities. It is a hint that Ned would have never sired a bastard.
@sumitgidwani7382
@sumitgidwani7382 5 лет назад
esmurrembam Frey would have killed Robb for even less such as marrying her daughters with joffery
@esmurrembam
@esmurrembam 5 лет назад
GabisonStudios I've read the books too and I know that he marries Jeyne Westerling, but this is a video about the show. In the show he meets a random nurse and marries her because he falls in love already being engaged to a Frey girl...it's totally different. And Theon was his ally and almost his brother (they grew up together) when he sent him to the Iron Islands to get Balon's support for the war, how could Robb know that Theon was going to betray him because he wanted to impress his father? Why was that a bad move? Robb really needed the Frey and Bolton army...so the moment he broke the engagement, the Freys and the Boltons allied to the Lannisters
@jaceong5978
@jaceong5978 5 лет назад
yes yes we know the shows and the books are different. Gabison was merely pointing out what GRRM intended, which is indeed pretty interesting. I never knew that and it would have made so much sense. Also, the engagement was just one of the reasons that the Freys and Boltons switch alliances. Hoster Tully's death and the lack of a competent heir in Edmure, Catelyn freeing Jaime, which indirectly led to the Rickard Karstark's execution and the abandonment by Karstark forces. These all contributed to what is seen as a weakening of House Stark and prompted the betrayal by the Freys and Boltons. Also the Boltons never sat well with the Starks either.
@Krone37Io
@Krone37Io 5 лет назад
GOT season 1234: good people die because that's reality. season 5678: the heroes get their revenge and win because magic.
@silviesaskova9437
@silviesaskova9437 3 года назад
But actually Sansa did not use magic and became The Queen in the north.
@thehound9988
@thehound9988 2 года назад
@@silviesaskova9437 she used plot armor and absent logic
@Brandonhayhew
@Brandonhayhew 2 года назад
Tables turn around. Reality bad guys do die but it takes time to do it. Heroes don’t get revenge because it has consequences and costs everything
@user-uv9bi3xz1o
@user-uv9bi3xz1o 2 года назад
Not 8
@snozer6966
@snozer6966 Год назад
I mean to be fair, in the episode after the red wedding Bran tells the story of a rat cook who kills another man under his own roof (or something along those lines) and that the one thing the gods cannot forgive is that level of betrayal. Tyrion also says directly to Tywins face "The north will remember this." So the show is foreshadowing the Freys and Boltons will be punished for the red wedding eventually. Game of Thrones was a show about natural consequences up till about season 6. Sure 5-6 are nowhere near as good as seasons 1-4 but I think it's still worth noting the plot armor was still somewhat minimal and characters payed for their actions... and I feel like most shows would absolutely kill to have a season on the level of quality as 5-6. There are some obvious major flaws within those two seasons obviously but it still tried to follow the rules. By season 7-8 though they just gave up, the last good scene in the show was Olenas death.
@wikzip
@wikzip 5 лет назад
Very, very soon you´ll be able to make: " how season 8, episode 3 ruined our lives" video.
@TriplBBB2023
@TriplBBB2023 5 лет назад
so true :(
@bradleysteltz642
@bradleysteltz642 5 лет назад
Yeah all of them will die then the rest of the episode will be the white walkers just walking really slowly to Kings landing
@tusidex5228
@tusidex5228 5 лет назад
Wiktor Kentander no, because we expect it
@bradleysteltz642
@bradleysteltz642 5 лет назад
@@tusidex5228 so because we expect a bad ending we will get a good ending or will it be that because we expect they will do the opposite of what we expect they will this do exactly what we expect which will then become the thing we least expect (smart guy pointing to head meme)
@tusidex5228
@tusidex5228 5 лет назад
Bradley Steltz we expect that some important characters will die in the battle and that will happen.
@davidmaldonadov
@davidmaldonadov 5 лет назад
I was haunted by Catelyn Stark's scream :c
@AceX47
@AceX47 5 лет назад
The Red wedding is the most brutal moment in scripted history since the literal 'overthrowing' of Mufasa in The Lion King movie. It's like fine kill the main protagonist yet again, but Jesus H. Christ why did you guys also added this pregnant woman death in such a viscous way?! Well...i might add seeing Arya Stark feeding Wolder Frey his own young as good-dammed apple pie made me sick yet satisfied at the same time; this girl sense of humor is dark as pitch black tar.
@whathell6t
@whathell6t 5 лет назад
שחר לוי For me, that was nothing and I sleep like a baby after watching the Red Wedding. However, there’s one major fictional event that made betrayal more horrifying than the Red Wedding and gave me sleepless nights. The name of this fictional event is the Eclipse of the Godhand of the Descent Chapter of the Golden Age Arc of the Kentaro Muira’s Berserk. Don’t believe me, take a look at the censor version: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VQjv1K487z8.html
@wasloos7475
@wasloos7475 5 лет назад
Weeaboo's man, I swear.
@odsttrooper3724
@odsttrooper3724 5 лет назад
whathell6t hell yeah bro, we got another berserk fan here.
@armin6067
@armin6067 5 лет назад
@@whathell6t that was purely disgusting
@whathell6t
@whathell6t 5 лет назад
Armin Nasery That’s because you only a clip which is logical. You didn’t saw and/read the whole Kentaro Muira’s Berserk. It’s the same with the mainstreamers. There’s a few of them the actually read George R.R Martin’s Song of Fire & Ice before watching Game of Thrones.
@StarSage66
@StarSage66 5 лет назад
...but now the rains weep o'er his hall, and not a soul to hear...
@freddiesimmons1394
@freddiesimmons1394 5 лет назад
"Benioff and Weiss value the logical consequences of the game" Well, they used to...
@countgeekula3046
@countgeekula3046 5 лет назад
Wait for the battle in season 8
@robertovaldivia1573
@robertovaldivia1573 5 лет назад
Freddie Simmons *Benioff and Weiss have books to get scripts from
@laujack24
@laujack24 5 лет назад
they used to have books to adapt, where is a dream of spring?
@spacepulse836
@spacepulse836 5 лет назад
@@countgeekula3046 Well, the battle only further proved that Game of Thrones is now a fan service. I was crying...but it was all for nothing, because the characters I thought were dead turned out to be protected by plot armor. It was disgusting, episode 3, and I have 0 hopes for he next 3 episodes, and hope that this once great show can be put to rest.
@daniell9834
@daniell9834 5 лет назад
@@countgeekula3046 I waited, and was dissapointed.
@avatar2801
@avatar2801 5 лет назад
And so he spoke, and so he spoke That Lord of Castamere And now the rains weep o'er his halls With no one there to hear...
@KingOfSciliy
@KingOfSciliy 5 лет назад
Yes, now the rains weep o'er his halls But not a soul will hear.
@Elkott
@Elkott 5 лет назад
First time I watched the Red Wedding I couldn't sleep afterwards, it really shocked me.
@whathell6t
@whathell6t 5 лет назад
Larry For me, that I was nothing and I sleep like a baby after watching the Red Wedding. However, there’s one major fictional event that made betrayal more horrifying than the Red Wedding and gave me sleepless nights. The name of this fictional event is the Eclipse of the Godhand of the Descent Chapter of the Golden Age Arc of the Kentaro Muira’s Berserk. Don’t believe me, take a look at the censor version: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VQjv1K487z8.html
@Irraptured
@Irraptured 5 лет назад
Larry first time I watched, I was laughing the entire scene
@keithws2779
@keithws2779 5 лет назад
I read it in the book before seeing it (no I'm not one of those "I'M AN ORIGINAL FAN FROM THE 90'S" people. I just started reading them after season 1. When I read the red wedding... I was convinced that my brain was malfunctioning and read the scene three times before thinking "fuck! This is really happening!"
@rjs2077
@rjs2077 5 лет назад
K Dub same thing happened with me. I knew it was coming, but it hit me waaay harder than the show. I’m glad I decided to pick up the books and read them.
@user-js2vk6ty6u
@user-js2vk6ty6u 5 лет назад
BLOODY PSYCHOS AMONG THE POST COMMENTORS. NO WONDER ISLAMIC JIHADISTS & WHITE SUPREMACISTS EXIST. SHOULD IC3 FBI TAKE NOTE OF FUTURE FELONS HERE??!!
@octoberboiy
@octoberboiy 5 лет назад
What got me the most was the brutality to Talisa and her unborn child. If they had at least kept her alive with the child it would’ve kept a bit of hope alive, but by killing her and the baby first before killing Rob it solidified the finality of it all.
@fayeporbeck439
@fayeporbeck439 Год назад
Well, the good news is it didn’t happen in the books because Robb married a different person. Talisa was a show character only and so was the baby. Robb left his queen without a child in the book.
@ricoco7891
@ricoco7891 5 лет назад
Red Wedding - ruins your life and makes you fall in love with the show even more Battle for Winterfell - ruins your life and makes you hate the show Bravo
@mildlyobesegoat7262
@mildlyobesegoat7262 2 года назад
the other way around for me
@justinhaney3087
@justinhaney3087 Год назад
@@mildlyobesegoat7262 no
@mildlyobesegoat7262
@mildlyobesegoat7262 Год назад
@@justinhaney3087 yes
@dahannes6739
@dahannes6739 Месяц назад
​@@mildlyobesegoat7262cringe
@aleli9204
@aleli9204 3 года назад
I could still remember how my heart drummed inside my chest as I watched Talisa being stabbed multiple times. And Catelyn's scream of agony and the way she just stood there, with eyes open but already dead inside made my skin crawl. I have to watch the closing theme just staring at my laptop's black screen in an extreme level of shock.
@ayuwoki453
@ayuwoki453 Год назад
Man I couldn't believe it was happening, it was so shocking at one point I thought I was gonna get killed too lmao. It was like watching my own family get brutally murdered and trying to believe it was a dream and it wasn't actually happening. When I saw the killing was about to begin I thought it would be just slit throats but when the guy began brutally stabbing Talisa's belly... holy shit man I have seen people getting killed brutally in real life and this was still hard to watch. Also yeah the way Catelyn's eyes were wide open but you could see she was dead inside and didn't care for anything anymore gave me goosebumps.
@dontcare3935
@dontcare3935 9 месяцев назад
@@ayuwoki453I was so shock I thought it was a dream or some vision. I couldn’t believe it actually happened 😭💀
@ayuwoki453
@ayuwoki453 9 месяцев назад
@@dontcare3935 Yeah same man, it was surreal😂
@ColonelGreen
@ColonelGreen 5 лет назад
I had to laugh at the idea that Benioff and Weiss "value the logical consequences of the game". They quite freely suspend the "logical consequences", particularly the more they're asked to make up stuff on their own, particularly in order to cheat and help the villains stick around. Look at, well, everything that happens with Cersei in Season 7, or Ramsay in Season 6.
@Lupostehgreat
@Lupostehgreat 5 лет назад
Not to mention, Weiss and Benioff had no fucking clue what GoT's appeal even was. That's why Season 5 is pretty much just a series of attempts to shock viewers, which simply made the entire story unsatisfying. Call 6 and 7 fan fiction all you want, but at least it is satisfying. At least it feels like it is going somewhere. 5 felt like a nihilistic mass seeking to swallow all joy and convince you that hurting others is good.
@lvd8122
@lvd8122 5 лет назад
If you want to know how bad they truly are as showwriters watch the Dragon demands!
@theM4R4T
@theM4R4T 5 лет назад
Lupostehgreat I have to disagree. For all its faults season 5 has much better tone (close to the one of a feast of crows) than seasons 6 and 7 which are just bullshit and all over the place in its tone. Cool music playing and Arya saying badass lines after she literally killed dozens of people. This should be sad and terrible. Then she is having fun with Lannister soldiers.
@michaelheliotis5279
@michaelheliotis5279 5 лет назад
+Colonel Green Yeah, when Mussolini tried to take on the Vatican, he had to give the pope his own country just to avoid getting lynched in the streets. But when Cersei blows the whole thing to pieces, nobody really cares. And I don't buy the argument that blowing things up frightens people into submission, either, otherwise half the Middle East would be prostrating before the US right now.
@vit968
@vit968 5 лет назад
+Colonel Green Damn right. They turned Ramsay into a hypercompetent Villain Sue who didn't suffer any consequences from breaking his promise to honor surrenders or from kinslaying his own father in front of witnesses. And they gave Cersei so much plot armor cuz they're obsessed with Lena Heady. Cersei's supposed to be an idiot who thinks she's smart when it comes to politics and plotting. She alienated her Uncle Kevan, all potential allies, and gave power to the fanatical Faith Militant. She had no power at that point. And even if Book!Cersei somehow manages to use the wildfire like the tv show, she still wouldn't make such a total comeback. She would be branded a blasphemous murderous mad queen by all the religious peasants and the powerful nobles who still wouldn't accept her as queen. But these fucking Benioff and Weiss once said that they wanted the Lannisters to win because they like how the Lannisters are ruthless.
@JanVornetran
@JanVornetran 5 лет назад
This deserves more views! Must have taken a lot of work to edit all those scenes together.
@AMatterofFilm
@AMatterofFilm 5 лет назад
Thanks Hydracroc! It actually took a lot more than the time spent in most of our other videos. It was a nightmare handling the 67 episodes on Premiere.
@ugtultimategamingtaco3632
@ugtultimategamingtaco3632 5 лет назад
Game of thrones is a must watch if you love a good story line or lines.
@Exel3nce
@Exel3nce 5 лет назад
GoT s1-4 *
@ugtultimategamingtaco3632
@ugtultimategamingtaco3632 5 лет назад
BeThomsen yea you ducking commi
@Exel3nce
@Exel3nce 5 лет назад
RheyaRu!z never read the books, Mister triggered
@Exel3nce
@Exel3nce 5 лет назад
UGT UltimateGamingTaco ducking commi?
@ugtultimategamingtaco3632
@ugtultimategamingtaco3632 5 лет назад
BeThomsen I meant, my lord
@lucasistrom
@lucasistrom 5 лет назад
I got the Red Wedding spoiled in advance. I will never be able to know how it felt when you weren't expecting it.
@AMatterofFilm
@AMatterofFilm 5 лет назад
I'm sorry man :(, that sucks. I got spoiled that Ned Stark died.
@okok-zj4lk
@okok-zj4lk 5 лет назад
I got spoiled Red wedding AND Ned's death
@lucasistrom
@lucasistrom 5 лет назад
@@okok-zj4lk Aw man that's horrible.
@vexomnight3079
@vexomnight3079 3 года назад
not sure if you would have wanted that. PTSD is a real thing with this episode. I've watched the entire series and this episode is a work of brutal art, but damaging to people who might be too sensitive to handle it. I thank the writers for taking a chance with this piece of TV history. Just wish that they upheld their streak and continued it with Season 8. It was rushed and greed conquered what could have been the greatest show in television history. what a damn shame
@gumiho6075
@gumiho6075 Год назад
I got Danny's death spoiled
@richardetter7276
@richardetter7276 5 лет назад
That’s excactly why it’s so sad that seasons 5-7 are so bad compared to seasons 1-4
@Lupostehgreat
@Lupostehgreat 5 лет назад
Geek forlife part of it is the material that they are pulling from (AFFC, ADWD, and made up), part of it is Brandehoff and Weiss's need to attempt to replicate The Red Wedding by inserting shock after shock (Season 5 was horrific for this, with Sansa's rape by Ramsay, Barristan Selmy's completely pointless death against a throwaway villain, and Stannis choosing to burn Shireen because POWAH!), and then their reaction against that to form season 7. Honestly though, while it is not as good as 1-4, I prefer 6 and 7, at least, to the abhorrent garbage that was season 5. I was going to quit watching if 6 had continued like season 5, as a satisfying conclusion would have been unattainable with the writing philosophy behind that season (just be nihilistic as possible to try and shock viewers.).
@Lupostehgreat
@Lupostehgreat 5 лет назад
Oh, and credit where credit is due, but Battle of The Bastards is one of the greatest episodes of a TV show ever produced.
@Rumitya
@Rumitya 5 лет назад
It was well shot, I suppose, but It was really stupid and nonsensical. Very hollywoody :)
@AndySomething
@AndySomething 5 лет назад
Geek forlife I can personally overlook the problems in season 5 and 6 but season 7 is truly awful.
@SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi
@SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi 5 лет назад
Not really Season 6 Episode 10 surpassed many expectations. Winds of winter is one of the best episode of all tv history.
@palrob1714
@palrob1714 5 лет назад
2:48 David Benioff and Dan Weiss, the creators of this show, ... value the logical consequences of the game. This didn't age well.
@ach1ntt806
@ach1ntt806 5 лет назад
PalRob fuck DandD
@EminencePhront
@EminencePhront 5 лет назад
In other words, the world doesn't need Superman. It needs the Punisher.
@TheAmericanDragn
@TheAmericanDragn 5 лет назад
Oddly enough, The Red Wedding was the first scene I ever saw of this show because of the reactions to it. I read the books recently and though I knew it was coming, the scene still pained me. It was the most visceral thing I had ever read.
@vinitsingh3399
@vinitsingh3399 5 лет назад
I remember the day I saw this episode. I had binged up to that point over the past one week, loving the story line and of course rooting for the good guy. This sequence though, wrecked my mood. It was the first time that a narrative of a show or movie was so immense that it had visible impact on me. I stopped watching it for a week or so, trying to overcome that shock. I now realize what a treasure that emotion was. That, for me, was entertainment at it's peak. In the truest sense of the word. I loved your essay on it. I kind of felt what I felt, but I had not fully relished it yet. Than you for that. Subbed, liked, waiting for more quality content.
@AMatterofFilm
@AMatterofFilm 5 лет назад
Same thing happened to me. Binged through season 3 and then took a month-long break. Thanks for the kind words and welcome to our channel :)
@Satanthony
@Satanthony 5 лет назад
Well Rob didn't keep his word and lost his head. And how in the hell do you trust a guy with a flayed man as his banner?
@PercyPlays73
@PercyPlays73 3 года назад
If you read the books all your doubts will be cleared. They have shown why and how the red wedding was so shocking
@alainajane8990
@alainajane8990 5 лет назад
I gasped so loud when I first saw this scene...then I had to take a break from binge watching. This is my favorite episode because it’s so shocking.
@leomcdonnell2553
@leomcdonnell2553 5 лет назад
That last monologue was fuckin brutal. Good job.
@veitdalee4810
@veitdalee4810 5 лет назад
I think it's a shame that GOTs seasons 6 and 7 turned into pure fan service...
@simonbirch8689
@simonbirch8689 5 лет назад
Veit Dalee yea, but i kinda get it. they had 5 seasons where the vast majority of characters weren’t safe, kinda makes sense what’s left is what the show writers want to stick with and make it as satisfying to the mass audience as possible.
@Exel3nce
@Exel3nce 5 лет назад
...and into pure bullshit. i just want to forget s5-7. (except for some epsiodes). GoT was the first and only show (and in general) where i got a piece of paper and wrote everything down that i hated because it made me so so angry
@ThreesixnineGF
@ThreesixnineGF 5 лет назад
Simon Birch It's not satisfying at all! It changes the game... There is actually no more game, it's a soap opera now.
@TheGeorgeD13
@TheGeorgeD13 5 лет назад
Not sure how it was fan service... And I'm surprised some haven't like seasons 5-7. They're really quite good. Sure, not as good as some earlier seasons, but still... very good television. Not sure what can make somebody like BeThomson so angry. It's just a tv show. Nothing to be angry about.
@Exel3nce
@Exel3nce 5 лет назад
"just a tv show". why do we even watch shows and movies then? compared to the earllier season its just a spit on the face. its so horrible written that i dont understand how you can not hate it.
@MrSchmerzen98
@MrSchmerzen98 5 лет назад
At least it ruined our lives in a good way. Now look at what they've done in season 8
@peachesinsalt6364
@peachesinsalt6364 5 лет назад
I still remember how much shocked, terrified and emotionally wrecked I was when I watched the red wedding episode ... too bad GOT never had that again in the last season of it. That truly was a masterpiece.
@googlespyfranchise9089
@googlespyfranchise9089 3 года назад
I was on alone on Christmas day, in bed ill, with diarrhea. 'But it's okay' I thought, 'I have the next episode of Game Of Thrones to watch'.... :D Well, I never forgot that Christmas.
@The_Wizurd
@The_Wizurd 5 лет назад
yay I new video, I just found you recently. But I love your videos so much. The editing is so good!!
@legacian4039
@legacian4039 4 года назад
Technically the promise to marry Walder’s daughter came from Catelyn. Granted she had no way of conveying that agreement to Robb until it had already been made. While the Starks are all about honor, I think love has an equally important place within them as well. Robb loved Talisa, and he loved her long before the promise was ever made. Catelyn tried to play the game by striking that deal with Walder, the problem being that it was inevitably going to backfire from the moment she made it. Blaming Robb is giving him a responsibility and expectation that he was never beholden to. Blaming Catelyn is unfortunately not misguided, though she never could have imagined in her worst nightmare this outcome; she clearly trusted Walder more than she should’ve. Is it right to burden her with the events of the Red Wedding given what she meant to accomplish and went through? House Frey was won over by the lion, and the lion doesn’t play fair. Don’t blame Robb or Catelyn. Blame the ones who orchestrated it and gave the order, Walder Frey, Roose Bolton, and Tywin Lannister.
@ratedkitty7548
@ratedkitty7548 5 лет назад
I think this series really has lost its way, the first four seasons are great, I think the fifth is pretty good, and season six is also great imo, despite having more predictable moments, season 7 however is a different story, it stopped focusing on the characters and more on the big fights, and fanservice
@ratedkitty7548
@ratedkitty7548 5 лет назад
I hope more than anything that season 8 is a satisfying conclusion but part of me expects it to end with a big fight between good and bad, which is what George RR Martin intended to avoid
@ratedkitty7548
@ratedkitty7548 5 лет назад
RheyaRu!z I don’t think it’s fan service because it’s off book, I think the fan service stuff such as the shot of the night kind riding the dragon, and most of Gendry’s inclusion feels like it was only there because we never know what happened to him, the fan service isn’t my biggest problem with the season though, that would be how rushed it feels and the writing at times is just god awful, episode five I feel was incredibly rushed and episode six was so stupid and made so little sense I would’ve preferred watching the Dorne subplot again, and finally, I hate how it used to take a few episodes for characters to get from one side of the Westeros now takes about ten to fifteen minutes
@TheGeorgeD13
@TheGeorgeD13 5 лет назад
I mean, they're following GRR Martin's outline, so I think you'll be very disappointed when he finishes the books, then. This was his vision. As for my opinion on Season 7, I thought it was easily the best since Season 4.
@Ronnie-mx1wu
@Ronnie-mx1wu 5 лет назад
Well it's the end of the story, plots have to be wrapped up. Did you every really think that there wouldn't be a "great war" after hardhome? Did you not think there was gonna be a war between daenarys and whoever sits on the throne once she got her ships and army? Of course these last season's will be predictable, we've had a decade to predict it.
@spartacus1155
@spartacus1155 5 лет назад
Mr Incredibles dong there's nothing wrong with that the show provided characterization and drama the first six seasons but at some point the climactic battles that were doomed to happen have to happen at some point
@kafunamasinde2265
@kafunamasinde2265 Год назад
I remember feeling so uneasy whenever Arya showed happiness and or anticipation to be reunited with Rob and her mom...it felt like oh no...she is going to be let down again...
@aneiasl
@aneiasl 5 лет назад
It was done so well that it still stirs emotions. I can remember just looking at the credits trying to comprehend what I had just watched.
@wcbuerste7
@wcbuerste7 5 лет назад
Excellent video. Not just informative, but you succeeded in letting me dive back into the feelings I had when watching the show. The perfect choice of soundtrack definitely helped. Thanks!!
@AMatterofFilm
@AMatterofFilm 5 лет назад
Thank you! It was very fun to make :)
@illuminaticomfirmed6948
@illuminaticomfirmed6948 5 лет назад
season 1-6 were great, too bad 7 felt so simple. Its still entertaining but its not nearly as great as the earlier seasons.
@MadOrange644
@MadOrange644 5 лет назад
Wait till you see season 8
@RektRL
@RektRL 5 лет назад
Great analysis, perfect editing. Loved this video, hope you get to do more on the show, even if you look at other themes from earlier seasons - not necessarily season 8.
@gutspraygore
@gutspraygore 5 лет назад
A couple of more clues from the book. Frey didn't offer guest right until Catelyn asked for the salt and bread. Also, she made a note of how bad the musicians were. She didn't realize they weren't actually musicians. And at least one of the Freys was in such a bad mood he rudely rebuked an offer to dance and stalked off before crap went down. The girl that asked him was one of the Bear Island warrior daughters and she ended up getting an axe in the belly. It was pretty shocking. It's been awhile since I read the book, so take this with a grain of salt... and bread.
@macmcleod1188
@macmcleod1188 5 лет назад
In real life, there are moments where breaking an oath or the law has a huge payoff. And prisons and history are full of people who misjudged that moment and suffered the rest of their (often short) lives for it. They keep trying because those who chose the right moment became wealthy and powerful enough to avoid the costs.
@didimean
@didimean 5 лет назад
Its crazy this is still the same show runners... with shit like "Beyond the Wall" and cringey scenes ripped right out of Disney's "How to train your Dragon"
@littleSempai
@littleSempai 5 лет назад
....How to train your Dragon is from Dreamworks
@didimean
@didimean 5 лет назад
Lmfao thanks for clarifying that... That shitty scene was like it was ripped out of DREAMWORKS "How to train your Dragon". Happy...?
@777Bwild777
@777Bwild777 5 лет назад
EXCELLENT VIDEO!!! More please! Yes and thank you!
@The_Daily_Tomato
@The_Daily_Tomato 5 лет назад
I have already made plans to freak out half my guests at my wedding. Rains of Castamere playing at the reception, me and my hubby leaving and my uncle closing the door and sitting next to my mom. She's gonna shit herself 😂
@R4Y2k
@R4Y2k 5 лет назад
I love the show because it basically broke every plot law. Since GoT killed off half the cast, other shows try to copy it just for drama reasons while misunderstanding why GRRM did it. You got only one thing wrong; "In the end, the good guys always win" Not on this show.... I have a feeling on what's coming and you won't like it^^
@psteeg3551
@psteeg3551 5 лет назад
exactly, I was expecting him to finish with "the good guys always win....... or do they?"
@Aipe97
@Aipe97 5 лет назад
I'm pretty sure that at the end he was saying all of those things sarcastically, like how he says that love conquers all at the same time he shows the scene exactly where love didn't conquer all
@roxanneanders8326
@roxanneanders8326 5 лет назад
MCP/ChronicBuzz Game of Thrones is able to kill major characters because it makes sure to build up ALL of them. Once a big character dies, there is a consequence caused by their death that pushes the story forward and forces some of the other characters to develop and react a a certain way. That is why GOT can make their shocking deaths work so well while shows like Walking Dead just loses more fanbase when they kill fan favorites.
@AverageAlien
@AverageAlien 5 лет назад
the recent seasons have been shit though. They are killing people for shock value now, and no other good reason
@ginge641
@ginge641 5 лет назад
Roxanne Anders Yeah, Ned Stark's death was like the Waynes or Uncle Ben for the Starks. It was their origin story.
@sopitaa783
@sopitaa783 5 лет назад
Fantastic editing!!! Excellent video and analysis
@v8Buster87
@v8Buster87 4 года назад
just hearing the rains of castamere, and reading the title has me wanting to break down into tears.
@soulfires17
@soulfires17 5 лет назад
Keep up the excellent work guys. Great essay on GoT!
@theM4R4T
@theM4R4T 5 лет назад
"Show creators value the logical consequences of the game." No, they don't. It was George, now he's not involved in the show production and seasons 5, 6, 7 prove that they don't care about anything making a lick of sense.
@colinluk5547
@colinluk5547 5 лет назад
George is a co-executive producer for the entire show. He just stopped writing episodes after season 4.
@Jack-kx5rf
@Jack-kx5rf 5 лет назад
The show runners do value logical consequences. Sansa leaves with Litterfinger, and he marries her to Ramsay, which George didn't have an influence on.
@WritingGeekNL
@WritingGeekNL 5 лет назад
@@Jack-kx5rf Yeah man...Littlefinger marrying of Sansa, Littlefinger who knows most of the info in the Seven Kingdoms marries off his new love of his life to a complete maniac. ~ They just didn't want to include another character so they made Sansa fill in for Jeyne Pool. Littlefinger died because the showrunners have no idea how to write for this character.
@Jack-kx5rf
@Jack-kx5rf 5 лет назад
@@WritingGeekNL I think they killed him off as a consequence of his previous actions... He instigated Roberts Rebellion. Started the Lannister-Stark war. Sent a mercenary to kill Bran. Tried to get Sansa and Arya to kill each other. Littlefinger should have been killed the day that Bran arrived in Winterfell since he knew all of this already.
@westernless97
@westernless97 5 лет назад
This was beautifully done! Thank you so much!
@HeatherHolt
@HeatherHolt 5 лет назад
Wow... this still gives me chills. Great video! Subbed!
@temporoyale6251
@temporoyale6251 5 лет назад
"value the logical consequences of the game", D&D kinda forgot about it
@gabrieldinizdemoraes
@gabrieldinizdemoraes 5 лет назад
Great essay, it's a shame that GOT is a Hollywood fanfic now
@arami187
@arami187 5 лет назад
Season 7 was Fan Service af!
@gabrieldinizdemoraes
@gabrieldinizdemoraes 5 лет назад
RheyaRu!z yea right
@TheGeorgeD13
@TheGeorgeD13 5 лет назад
Couldn't be further from the truth. It's still very much quality television.
@Lupostehgreat
@Lupostehgreat 5 лет назад
Gladayo ? Actually it's not. It's cannon, and you need to get over that. I'm sorry it's not ending with Littlefinger on the throne, or whatever the fuck.
@kasidyschnedler3522
@kasidyschnedler3522 5 лет назад
Lupostehgreat grrm said it himself that books are canon not the show
@gideoncenteno
@gideoncenteno 5 лет назад
Just watching this video months later. Powerful, well explained and well done.
@RangerLifts
@RangerLifts 2 года назад
Just watched this for the first time yesterday with no prep, never had any spoilers and didn’t read the books. I was screaming at the tv and it turned into a full on emotional breakdown.
@cdonamikaze4
@cdonamikaze4 5 лет назад
Subbed. Brilliant video. Please make more. PS: Large part of the credit should go to GRRM. His writing is pristine, and D&D only fed off it till they passed the books, and thus the decline of the show.
@Rumitya
@Rumitya 5 лет назад
I have already accepted end of season 4 as a finale of the show.
@KingOfSciliy
@KingOfSciliy 5 лет назад
It's a pretty good ending; Tyrion escapes execution after killing his Father. The Wall is defended from the wildling invasion with the aid of Stannis, but Jon loses Ygritte in the ensuing battle. Sansa establishes herself a new place in the Vale under the tutelage of Littlefinger. Arya leaves Westeros behind her to sail for Braavos. Daenerys learns the harsh realities of ruling and is forced to chain her dragons to ensure the safety of her subjects. Bran finally reaches the home of the Three-Eyed Raven to begin his lessons in green-seeing. It would have been good to end there.
@Da_Homie12
@Da_Homie12 5 лет назад
Why
@tricko8000
@tricko8000 4 года назад
KingOfSciliy I think S6 finale would be a better series finale
@cosmicsteel2803
@cosmicsteel2803 3 года назад
Nah season 6 with Jon becoming King in the North, Dany sailing to Westeros and Cersei becoming queen.
@jameswebber359
@jameswebber359 5 лет назад
Can't/won't wait for more! Keep up the great work.
@aymanmrir7880
@aymanmrir7880 5 лет назад
Awesome video man I'm glad I discovered you you just earned a new subscriber
@DigitalRemixTV
@DigitalRemixTV 5 лет назад
Welp, time to go rewatch GoT again..
@jonnytheodorou7720
@jonnytheodorou7720 5 лет назад
SliceofMaria agreed
@jonnytheodorou7720
@jonnytheodorou7720 5 лет назад
Watch vikings till game of thrones comes out trust me
@sif_2799
@sif_2799 5 лет назад
Yep but only until episode 4
@andristefanus
@andristefanus 5 лет назад
this scene is more bloodier than the show itself and books
@alexbrumwell1572
@alexbrumwell1572 5 лет назад
Great, well-written and clear video essay!
@Nice-lp5vp
@Nice-lp5vp 5 лет назад
This video was so well put together
@Snakie747
@Snakie747 5 лет назад
In hindsight Robb's death should have been seen a mile away. Every non-military choice he made was wrong and there was a clear trajectory of his decline prior to his death.
@calliph
@calliph 5 лет назад
Yep. Actions have consequences and it was a nice kick in the face reminder that "good guys" don't get plot armor when they fuck up in real life.
@Face6099
@Face6099 5 лет назад
"The writers of the show value the logical consequences of the game." Funny thing to say in 2018
@Css-gp9dm
@Css-gp9dm 4 года назад
What about now🙃
@dankestmemes9843
@dankestmemes9843 5 лет назад
This editing is perfect. You earned a sub
@ChubbyTeaPot
@ChubbyTeaPot 5 лет назад
All your videos are fantastic.. great stuff xoxo
@yoloswag7483
@yoloswag7483 5 лет назад
that is very lazy interpretation. 'Honor gets you killed and leaving morals aside leads to survival' literally every person that watches the show thinks this way and they start doing similar things in life also. The reason Rob was killed was because HE DID NOT FOLLOW THE HONOR OF HIS FATHER and did not marry Frey girl as promised, the outcome would be vastly different IF ROB FOLLOWED THE HONOR CODE. When you say Tywin was not Honorable, that is also incorrect statement. Lannister always pays their debt is the key to their honor, they stick with it and people know that and ally with them and that is why they are successful. Infact, pretty much every character in the show suffered cause they failed to follow their honor code.
@uatoto7783
@uatoto7783 5 лет назад
you have to consider tho that, at least in the books, Robb marries Jeyne Westerling bc he doesn't want a repeat of what his father did to his mother- he didn't want to repeat what his father inevitably did by raising jon among 'true starks' and he didn't want to compromise Jeyne's honor bc she was with child and he didn't want that baby to grow up like his 'half-brother' it's made quite clear, that he married her to preserve her honor meaning it was honor that technically killed him. he didn't have to marry jeyne, he could have let her have his baby and either deny that they ever had relations or claim the child as his bastard without making jeyne his wife but he didn't bc he didn't want to repeat Ned's mistakes
@Free_Palestine_419
@Free_Palestine_419 10 месяцев назад
"Explain to me why it is more noble to kill 10,000 men in battle than just a dozen at dinner." - Tywin Lannister after the Red Wedding
@brian-yt4re
@brian-yt4re 5 лет назад
Video is amazingly edited❤️
@Asher_Te_Knight
@Asher_Te_Knight 3 года назад
"If you think this story has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention." So fucking cool.
@vanessarealrose5919
@vanessarealrose5919 5 лет назад
Red wedding didn't ruin my life rather than it shocked me and fascinated me as i had never seen that before. It was brutally real as well as heart braking and made the show ground braking.
@DiVi00027
@DiVi00027 5 лет назад
The battle of winterfell should've been like this, but alas, D&D are not GRRM
@free322001
@free322001 2 года назад
Door closes a little too loud... You know SOMETHING is up.... then you see his chain-mail sleeve, her reaction, and his reaction to her reaction.
@kingvince7328
@kingvince7328 5 лет назад
Really well made video. Smashed that like button!
@rogerfvb
@rogerfvb 5 лет назад
Why is this video making my eyes sweat?
@roberthhom
@roberthhom 5 лет назад
A few days ago I read that part in the third volume and I think that both versions the show, and the words of Martin have their own perspectives and both are so fucking good and so fucking sad and ominous
@erinjohnson2422
@erinjohnson2422 5 лет назад
I remember being in shock watching this scene...like it was abrupt and no raging music score to build it..it was literally like flipping a coin.
@Sum41rthe1
@Sum41rthe1 5 лет назад
Very well put together. Got me all emotional
@morphorod
@morphorod 5 лет назад
Wow that really was awesome.
@chris_fisto
@chris_fisto 5 лет назад
Sigh. We miss this. RIP Game of Thrones.
@AMatterofFilm
@AMatterofFilm 5 лет назад
:(
@jendragon42
@jendragon42 5 лет назад
Good point about the change in narrative after tRW--I would have liked to hear more about an analysis of the narratives that followed, though.
@AMatterofFilm
@AMatterofFilm 5 лет назад
That might be included in another essay 😏. Thanks Jen!!
@AverageAlien
@AverageAlien 5 лет назад
This is why it's so good. You actually fear for the characters lives. In other TV shows you know the main characters are not going to die, at least not until the end, but this show is unpredictable
@rafiihsan9593
@rafiihsan9593 5 лет назад
beautiful video, man.
@AMatterofFilm
@AMatterofFilm 5 лет назад
Thanks rafi.
@weirdpotatoe9533
@weirdpotatoe9533 5 лет назад
Remember when GOT used to be this great? (Yeah season 8 just aired, how can you tell?)
@mathinshams5293
@mathinshams5293 5 лет назад
This was an amazing video, I'm going to subscribe :)
@catinho9705
@catinho9705 5 лет назад
What a great video! gave me goosebumps
@AMatterofFilm
@AMatterofFilm 5 лет назад
Thank you, really appreciated!
@jiddinja
@jiddinja 5 лет назад
I think you're forgetting the Stark complicity in the War of the Five Kings. Firstly, it was the Catelyn and Ned who ordered Tyrion's arrest on little evidence, outside of Baelish's word. Catelyn knew her sister wasn't the most mentally stable person and when she sees how far her sister's mind has degraded, she made no attempt to insist on a fair trial. She was happy to let Tyrion be murdered for no other reason than.. because Lannister. Ned gave Catelyn permission to handle the situation and and made no attempt to seek the truth beyond his own prejudices. When Tywin responds to the kidnapping and attempt at judicial murder of his son (regardless of his feelings for Tyrion that was a rational response), Ned STILL makes no attempt to look beyond his assumptions and prejudices. Yes, Tywin upped the anty by having the Mountain burn the Riverlands, but Ned made no attempts to defuse anything or investigate anything beyond Jon Arryn's murder, a subject that mattered to him personally. Ned antagonizes the Lannisters and then plays the innocent, morally pure victim when the Lannisters push back. The same thing happened in the street fight with Jaime. Ned gloats over his taking of Tyrion to a brother who obviously cares about his younger sibling's safety. This follows a pattern of making no attempt to seek the truth of why Jaime killed Aerys Targaryen, but instead falling back on.. because Lannister. When Ned had a chance to stand up to Tywin and the Mountain after little Reynes and Aegon were slaughtered along with their mother, Elia Martell, by demanding justice from Robert, all he did was throw a tantrum and head back to Winterfell without taking any action. Robb called the banners and moved on Kings Landing before Ned was even executed. Remember, Robb knew very little of Joffrey, Cersei, or anything that was going on in Kings Landing. He acted out of fear and arrogance and got his people into a war. He could have bottled up the North at the harbors and ordered the Reeds and the Crannogment to not let large numbers of Southerners through. He could have ensured his own people were safe, then sought a peaceful resolution. He chose to attack, and Tywin chose to defend himself. Once that happened there was no going back. The Starks are not a family that values justice, only the appearance of it and the appearance of moral behavior. They are perfectly happy to be as pragmatic as the Lannisters, they just have a better reputation. There was near equal fault on both sides, but the storyline and the way the scenes were shot encourage us to root for the Starks. That was the choice of GRRM and the producers of the show, but it doesn't tell the whole story.
@Unit27
@Unit27 5 лет назад
jiddinja #TywinDidNothingWrong
@G-Blockster
@G-Blockster 5 лет назад
Or you could just blame Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish for pitting the Starks and Lannisters at one another's throats, then manipulating/ goading them into predictable decisions.
@ColonelGreen
@ColonelGreen 5 лет назад
This is complete nonsense. First, Catelyn did not know that her sister was unstable (and, as we subsequently learned, actually conspiring against her) when she went to the Eyrie, and she did object to holding a trial. Second, Ned did attempt to defuse the situation. He ordered Tywin to stop. Third, why would Ned inquire into why Jaime killed Aerys further? There's a pretty obvious explanation: to save his own skin. Jaime makes no effort to explain what happened; that's on him, not on Ned. Fourth, Robb called the banners because his father and sisters were taken prisoner, and his grandfather's lands were being ravaged. The Lannisters started that conflict. It was not "Tywin choosing to defend himself".
@Lupostehgreat
@Lupostehgreat 5 лет назад
jiddinja I think something important to note, as I think the books impart this well while the show never really dwells upon it, is that the true victims of The War of The Five Kings are the common people of Westeros. They are the ones who commit their sons to war, they are the ones whose daughters, wives, and mothers are raped by wandering soldiers, they are the ones whose homes are burned and farms are ransacked. They are the real victims. While the books may have dwelled upon the senseless violence performed upon them because of the characters' actions (Catelyn has the nerve to question Edmure trying to shield commoners within Riverrun when the war for her vengeance makes them targets, Arya's release of the Frey prisoners in Harrenhall causing the deaths of commoners when The Lannisters lost the stronghold and The Freys and Boltons took it over, Daenery's ransacking of Slaver's Bay causing the installation of tyrants after her leaving the city). Indeed, the show often seems to delight in portraying the commoners as stupid and violent savages who need to be kept in line by force (the residents of King's Landing are often portrayed as filthy, ignorant, and violent while the slaves Dany frees are not only nearly mindless, but turn on her unanimously the moment that she punishes one of their own who broke the law. That scene of them all hissing in unison at her is likely the most offensive portrayal of brown people I have seen in modern media.)
@taesang5664
@taesang5664 5 лет назад
why would ned ask anything of jaime as to why he killed aerys? wasnt the whole point of starting robert’s rebellion to... kill aerys and take over the iron throne? also, i think, given how the events played out, ned was more concerned for lyanna more than anything.
@Noah-pq8rv
@Noah-pq8rv 5 лет назад
Game of thrones is one of my favorite TV series of all time, if you haven't seen Hannibal you should watch and if you have you should make a video on it, it is a masterpiece.
@Zenn_Chan
@Zenn_Chan 5 лет назад
I have to say I feel like the books heavily implied that the tactics of Tywin and the Freys were a short term gain that cost them in the long term. No-one would ever trust a Frey, ever again. No-one would ever put their faith in a Lannister. It was honestly an idiotic tactic which showed how afraid Tywin was of Robb's skill on the battlefield, and would have been what led to his defeat.
@xajaso
@xajaso 5 лет назад
Excellent. Look forward to more Game of Thrones content from this channel
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