Ryan not only immediately figuring out the guy was cheating, but also immediately finding the gap in the script with Jinrai is one of the funniest things I have ever seen.
There's a JP in the replays who wrecked him and may not have even known the guy was cheating, because it turns out the bot sucks at knowing to block high vs. overhead fireball!
@@OfficialCrowMauler It can react depending on the spacing and the character the cheater is using. In this case, the cheater was using Akuma who has a move that can go through projectiles. But if the cheater was playing a character that doesn't have moves to go through fireballs and went up against a JP, the JP player could abuse the cheater's script by mixing up his normal fireball and the one that hits overhead because if it autoblocks for him, it'll probably default to crouch block and cause him to keep getting hit. Unless the cheater realizes what's happening and changes the autoblock to stand block. In which case the JP could start throwing low fireballs. Hoped that explained it a bit.
Not gonna lie I giggled a little when someone in the chat said “that’s what you do against Cammy players too” when you said about testing the bot’s script
If they’re not spaced properly, you can jab them in between the end of jinrai and the next low medium kick. If they’re spaced properly, the pushback will eventually push you out of range and when Ken walks forward to continue, you can take your turn back. Invincible reversals also work in between the first and second hit of the jinrai kick.
@@satoshinakamoto9597 i don't think i've ever encountered a cheater but I'm not master rank + i can't discern subtle cheaters from skilled players that well
(Rage quit incoming):"PERFECT KO"! Losing with Gouki(Akuma)...that makes NO SENSE. Kinda NECESSARY to get this modder (baseball umpire response) OUT OF HERE!!
@@riotstamp Damn people aren't allowed to admire and set role models without it being glazing now. You must not have had one yourself. I feel bad for you.
@riotstamp unironically using the term glazing on someone making a genuine compliment is the saddest shit Ive seen today, and I just watched a cheater on SF6 video get downloaded and whipped. Stay classy(pathetic).
Legitimately i dont understand fighting game cheaters At least in other games you can fly around, have crazy abilities, wallhacks Fighting games youre just letting a robot play the game for you
I don’t think anything could be more poetic to watch than seeing a cheat script be helpless under the might Ken Jinrai. The best authors of our time could not come up with something as absurdly ironic as this, it is Ken’s greatest contribution to this entire game
@@davidclout6286 nah more like silver. maybe a modern gold. But gold players last year were def better than the ones this year lol (speaking from my experience facing off against some of the diamond players on a new character this year and watching friends in gold playing against their gold rank opponents)
If the cheat programmer starts having to program special cases for every character with a teleport or gimmick, they basically will have programmed an entire list of notes players could study to just learn the matchups instead.
You are a bolder fellow than I to attempt that safejump at the end. My guess would have been that less robust scripts would just go for DP anyways on the safejump, and since you were on sliver and burnout it would kill anyways even when blocked. Well played, well played.
my theory is that the cheat was bound to super meter, because he needs a response when he doesn't have any meter also extra evidence when he is being combo'ed the cheat still tries to DI the fireball motions
One thing you didn’t mention is that against a lot of scripts you can whiff your fastest total duration non-cancelable move at fullscreen and then whiff punish the auto-DI. Usually that isn’t proximity based because the script writers are lazy and DI generally has longer range than anything it can punish so it won’t matter against normal gameplay (like when you are actually trying to hit people with moves instead of exploit a cheater’s script against them).
The influx of cheating in every game is actually insane, I play a variety of games (Rainbow, SF6, Destiny, GGST, etc.) and in pretty much every game now there is a huge number of cheaters.
This reminds me of those "buster only" runs for like mega man or like "no jump" mario challenges Sacrificing almost all your tools and having to work against the machine
I do think if it was just like an experiment, like a tournament of just these bots or whatever trying to out cheat each other, I’d watch that. Like Fighting Game BattleBots. But going into ranked like that just seems pointless and a waste of everyone’s time.
@@Shiratto i mean it makes sense right, my little pony doesnt make any distinction between ponies and horses and the context they exist in makes you associate the word pony with child, child pony = foal, pony = word for foal. human brains, right?
@almanjohn12ndaccount63...Yugi ran the opponent out of cards...result: Slider as reward. "Akuma king"(loses to BOTH Ryan & Yeager)...PLZ uninstall,DO NOT play Tekken 8™,Mortal Kombat 1™ or ANY fighting game...this WILL happen to you every time.😂
Yeah I think it's meter based too. I don't think the bot will let itself drop below one bar in case someone somehow gets it in a checkmate style situation with burnout DI against the wall.
@Joseph-cx4eg could be, for some reason everyone doesn't acknowledge this possibility. Semi random cheat activation is what will make these cheaters nigh undetectable soon, especially if they vary timings
Holy ****** I played against this guy under the name Akuma King! I distinctly remember thinking "Wow this guy might be cheating", but never really dove deeper. Just logged in now and blocked him. Good on Broski for not only identifying the cheat, but finding a way to beat him anyways. Godly.
The way you suspected the hacker at first is exactly what I’ve been going through almost every game. To the point where I feel like I can’t play anymore. So it makes sense that I’m facing off with hackers.
Man. nothing Pisses me off more than seeing Scrub ass Cheaters using Characters ive loved LITERALLY since i was 12 years old in the mid 90s! "Which, frankly i love all the classic SF characters, but Akuma is special to me, up there with Dan, Blanka, Vega, Bison, ect"
Really big appreciation to Your Video and big respect for detecting his cheats and getting around it. I really can't understand who is using sth like this. It ruins the opponents experience and it really would bore myself to get inputs taken by a script... I really would like ton interview one of those persons to know what went wrong in their lives... How desperate and unsuccesful in live must a person be use these scripts? I'm still in training before getting into online matches, but I'm really afraid of hitting one cheater after another.... Capcom really should do sth.
I guess this wouldn't actually work since the 5f start up of a command grab is probably long enough for an auto-jump script. I wonder if this actually exists, a script which automatically jumps and punishes command grab attempts
@@El-Burrito saw a video of xuses(yep the replay channel guy) playing against this same akuma on twitter, and someone in the replies posted a page with all the cheats for sale and a command grab jumping one was on there
If this game was properly balanced, you wouldn't have to worry about cheaters. Why not either make all the characters good, bad, or average. Stop making some characters top tier, and others weak. It ruins the game.
@@Arctanis-vt3hl Wouldn't do anything. The cheater didn't win because Akuma is "broken" he won because of the mechanics the game provides. Street fighter 6 is pretty good right now with balancing, but if someone has a cheat that allows them to perfect parry every hit that match is pretty much unwinnable. You could replace any character with Akuma and it would have been the same just without the tatsu, shoryuken and Hadouken. And plus literally every fighting game out right now has top tier characters and low tier characters and you can win with them all, it's been like that since fighting games have been and things and will remain that way.
I don't think the drive rush check was proximity based. If I'm watching the video correctly, I think it's actually based on the amount of meter he has. When at 2+, he used super, but below that it was DP and crouch MK.
Your breakdown and walkthrough on how you figured out this cheater and script are amazing. Even though I do not use Aki, your ability to beat him despite his cheating is hilarious. EDIT: and then watching others find a way to blow up this cheater is EPIC!
Hey, the first round was spent attempting to adapt. It's not easy to figure this kind of stuff on the spot. The idea of the video is to encourage people to poke for flaws in the cheat algorithm, it's not made as a step-by-step guide, since at the end of the day every cheater's script is different
Thanks for confirming my suspicions that I wasn't insane fighting a cheater this morning. The exact same thing happened to me. Sadly I lost because Bison doesn't have many ways to counter that shit, and I never thought about strategies like this. But I'm glad I'm not totally insane LOL. Some real loser shit
