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Great video!!! C11 has to be one of the coolest group C cars, shame it didn’t race at le mans in 1990 😢

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Love your channel, man! I've had a lifelong love affair with race cars, or more broadly, with everything that has an engine in it. Your videos of these old classic race cars take me back to my childhood. Keep up the good work!

Interesting that Mercedes withdrew the C291 from the 1991 Le Mans. I didn't know that. Makes sense, as Jaguar did the same with the XJR-14, despite qualifying it in 2nd place. They ran XJR-12s instead. Thr C11 is beautiful, and sharing the sonorous engine of the C9 helps. Shame it didn't win Le Mans, but the WSC title is nothing to be sniffed at. One of my favourite group C cars

The 5l V8 sounds so good.

Gorgeous machine and fantastic thumbnail artwork 👌

One of the best automotive channels on RU-vid hands down

The flat-12 worked, but to a point. Excellent torque but often overcomplicated, heavy and wide. It had it's heyday in the 1970s, after which in most motorsport disciplines you needed a V-configuration engine to beat a V-configuration engine.

Every video I watch has, “the next season rule changes caused a redesign”. I’ve known some of these cars from Forza but it’s crazy how many changes to rules and classes there were! Great job keeping it straight. Can’t imagine the racing R&D budgets!!!

Scary thought was that the flat -12 unit was theoretically eligible for Formula One. Can you imagine McLaren bombing in 1995 with even more engine explosions that the Peugeot motor if Mercedes-Benz had persisted with the flat-12??? Given the complete failure of Subaru, Life, Isuzu and Porsche with similarly curious 12-cylinder engines during the same period, the 1991 Japanese win was truly miraculous!

I absolutely love how the C11 sounds.

Thanks for this video. Again, amazing historical footage! It was sad how Sauber and Mercedes-Benz fell out in Formula One after so much success in Group C.

I love seeing a channel grow from scratch. Great video as always!

Happy Birthday Peter Sauber 🎉

C11 sounds vicious. Absolute beast.

I was just watching your old group c cars videos and I love this one too

man I love your videos ! please stick to it, here since 2k subs and you're almost at 50k!! quality content slowly being recognised. much love from wales :)

Never forget the Sauber C11. Sauber C11 originally considered to be successor to the legendary Ayumu Uehara's Sauber Mercedes C9...

The C291 being the top car in World Racing 2 was certainly an interesting choice given its unlucky racing career

Not only is C 10 kinda awkward to pronounce in regular German, it's even a bit more awkward in a Zürich dialect (Sauber is based in Hinwil after all). In that dialect (and many other Swiss dialects) the "n" at the end of 10 is silent, so it sounds like "zeh zäh". I tried it with Google translator's text to speak and the words sounded almost identical, in dialect the words would sound a bit less similar, but it gets the point across

Brilliant channel, formats and content. Lovely clear commentary as usual and as always full of details which might be overlooked or omitted by other channels! Keep it up! Edit: Spelling.

keep up the great work please. everything on point here. footage, information, delivery! thanks man!

Considering that in 1991 the engine formula was 1:1 with that in F1, perhaps the biggest mistake Mercedes ever did was to go to the Flat-12, when V10 was a king in F1. Even Ferrari, who had their golden years with Niki Lauda and Jody Scheckter in the 70's with Flat-12 engine (and somehow made a ground effect car around it in 1979), had chosen V12 (because...muh 12 cylinders) configuration when turbos were banned in 1989 (Ferrari were so stubborn that it kept using V12 until 1996 when even they realized that to win a title a V10 is needed; Even Ford ditched the V8 for V10). Subaru "tried" to reintroduce the Flat-12 with the Motori Moderni-built 1235 bolted into the hopless Coloni, but was an utter failure (only the Life W12 was even worse) and the Coloni team (who had to buy half of the team back from Subaru) finished the season with a conventional Ford Cosworth DFR V8. The Subaru engine will see further use in the World Sportscar Championship in another woeful attempt - this time by the Alba team in 1990

Your segways into Carvertical are seamless. Classic Top Gear. Also the change in music is welcomed.

Your pronunciation of Zweihunderteinundneunzig (291) was on point!

Great video!

I already know you’re gonna hit a 1 million subs in time. Your content is premium.

Always great videos from this channel

My favorite racing car by far!! Thank you for making this informative video.

Jaguar xjr-14 also never raced at Le Mans… there’s pictures of it running during the test day but Jaguar chose to use their older spec-cars in the race due to reliability concerns. I guess it kinda did race there eventually as a Mazda entry…

About time you put out a new video!

You are honest, honest to God, my new favorite RU-vidr thank you for making these videos

Mercedes history is so interesting man, I hope you can do some of their older legendary cars

This guy cracks me up with his glasses but I love his videos. Good automotive history channel, it’s like going back in time!

Sick videos bro

Hey Man, was wondering if you'd do a video on the Mclarens in the Can-Am era. Truth be told, that's where it all started, but not enough focus on that era

The content quality is amazing as always

Yes!! Finally another automobilistic upload! My day has been blessed! ❤

Wow! Excellent content, my friend. Sub’d

I love that I found this channel

8:18 wait this is the dijon prenois racetrack i d'ont know group c has race on it

A very cool video of a very cool car!

3:38 "tseh tsehn" :D

Cheers! 👍💪✌

This is so cool

Anotha banger!

Mercedes always tend to mess up in one way or the other.

i appreciate the try at speaking german. the 291wasn't even bad :D Dieser Kommentarbereich ist nun Eigentum der Bundesrepublik Deutschland

So why exactly did group C switch over to those new 3.5l regulations? Its crazy to me how they went from the golden era of group C around 89, to almost immediately killing off the series after just a couple years of skyrocketing budgets due to teams basically having to completely build new race cars and engines from the ground up. Why on earth didnt they just keep the older regulations that allowed for such diverse types of engines and cars??

He's done it again!

Wow, your german is very good

group c was just... wow

Just got that Sauber on GT7. Clicked cause I didn't get first place first try. Gotta see how THEY rock it.

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Have a nice day everyone

Imagine going "Hmm, these racing politics are too toxic. We should join F1 instead"

Nice

Im surprised there are more c9 model cars yet no C11 model cars...

I blame Gran Turismo for my crippling addiction to Sauber Mercedes C cars. Of course, this is nothing compared to what Pokemon and Dragon Ball did to my fragile psyche.

Interesting video. Used to go to Le Mans every year through the late 80's and early 90's. Flew the flag supporting Jaguar which had the awesome naturally aspirated 7 litre V12's. The Mercs had a twin turbo V8. And there in lied the issue. They were very, very cagey about what boost pressure they were running - often the outcome would be distorted cylinder heads...! Some say they were massaging the rules. Others say they were cheating bastards. Who knows

isn't that mercedes changed their focus to the gt1 championship with clk gtr and the flying clr?

My guess is C10 sounds like tsetse fly in German.

I’ve been here since your first video and it just now clicked in my head what your channel name is a combination of LOL. But anyways I’m so glad to see this channel grow, another great video on a great car as always

Could you please do an episode on the Toyota 88C-V, the Minolta. Thanks. Love your channel by the way!

Fck i just bing watched all your videos LOL

What was the car that flipped

Flat-cylinder engines were not in Mercedes-Benz's blood.

Hopefully Merc F1 team follows the WSC campaign; Have success, suck really bad, leave the sport..

theres a difference, least to germans, between hard to say and being a mouthful and that second name is just a mouthful

Yeaahhhh

Vroom.

Second I like ur videos

Nom nom

Group C was destroyed because it was a threat to Formula 1.

Ruled WSC for one year only. 1989! Jaguar ruled for a decade

Mercedes with Micheal Schumacher failed to win Le Mans in 1991 losing to a Mazda 787B Mazda a team that struggled won Le Mans

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JD??

German here, C10 in german sounds like you’re stuttering, it basically pronounced Ze Zehn.

Not just that, but Schumacher was on track to win at Le Mans in his first outing in spite of all the ridiculous track politics that hamstringed their car. Definitely would not refer to it as "beaten roundly by the Mazda 787B", which implies total defeat and domination. The Mazda was nowhere even close to the Mercedes and basically won by being too slow to qualify for heavy restrictions. An absolute mockery of the sport and has played into constant rosey revisionist history about how Mazda was "too fast".

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They named it that Way, because its not really complicated to say ZehZehn for Germans. Just for the Rest of the World.

Have you considered disgussing Brawn f1 and their rise and emediate exit from f1 back in ’09?

It‘s not see sen it would be tse tsen

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Shows you just how ugly dive planes make a car now

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The thumbnail is misleading, this car is as much a Mercedes as the modern Alfa Romeo F1 team is Alfa Romeo, in that they're both actually Sauber with manufacturer sponsorship

"Can only go up from there, right?" Up! 😂

1980s and 1990s swimsuit trophy girls just hit different. They’re like McDonalds Sprite.

Mercedes was just sauber’s engine supplier… it was sauber’s team and chassis development that was dominant

“One of the greatest of all time.” Helped by secret traction control, compliant teammates, a cast-iron number one status, cars developed solely around him, etc. etc.

Zaubah

Calling the C9-C11 a Mercedes, is like calling the McLaren F1 the "BMW F'1". Isn't?

mazda 787B only won because of C11's broke down and XJR12's reliability issue.

Schumacher wasn't even the big star of the Silver Arrows young driver squad - Wendlinger and Frentzen were both expected to be better.

Imagine if displacement was measured in fl. oz 😂

The real group c king. Not the Mazda sht box.

Sauber. Not Mercedes.