How to beat MUCH LARGER Fleets in Empire at War! (Use this EVERY Battle!) 

Divide and conquer, Thrawn would be proud.

I don't think this could even be called cheese, honestly. It strikes me as a perfectly viable in-universe tactic. That said, in reality it'd probably only work a few times before Imperial admirals caught on, whereas the AI will always fall prey to this. Regardless, good shout, Eck! I know what I'm doing the next time they roll me with a 15 ISD fleet.

Once boarding ships are back I’m def gonna use this to capture enemy stardestroyers. Thanks Eck!

Hey Spiffing Eck here, today we are going to break the EaW ai

I think we should call it “The Eck Pincer”

Alternate Title Imperial Doge Teaches you how to Destroy a 14 year old games AI with Facts and logic

Very chill music for all out war with thousands dying every few minutes 😂

i would pay sooo much money for a modern remake of this. i just absolutely love the space battles.

This making me download the thrawn mod. Great tactics btw, I know people may think of it as cheating but this is a real world tactic divide and conquer. Plus you can blame it on poor imperial commanders, they seem to always bite when there is a little bait dangled in front of them.

I remember a while back I was playing an older version of Thrawns Revenge during the late Imperial period, with Pelleaon as leader and the New Republic kept attacking my fleet as I was building it up, forcing me to suffer losses while they were in production. To address this, I made a raiding fleet of 20 TIE Defender Squadrons, and sent them against the nearest New Republic worlds to keep them off balance and to delay them. Id have to replace the fleet every now and again, but it worked well.

Usually after the fighters deploy, I pause it and give the squadrons specific targets, I'll send A-wings after interceptors, X-wings after fighters and bombers and y-wings, b-wings and K-wings i'll give specific hardpoint targets to hit. I've always used a scout. Usually a Corellian Corvette.

I always moved my bombers far from the fight, waited for the enemy fighters to engage themselves with the main force, then picked off the nastiest ship's engines (or hangers of carriers if playing modded), if the bombers survived long enough I'd set them to removing shields of said ships, by this time my main force would have dealt with any ship I hadn't taken out the engines of (or, at the very least, given a good account for myself), and if I was still alive at this point I'd do what I could to take out the remaining vessels. This only works on big maps enough to actually pull these maneuvers off but the huge fleets I've managed to cripple or force to retreat using only a mid-tier station turned the tide of many games.

Hey Eck, could you specifically do a video on how to defend in a situation like this? Like if you have to defend one of your planets, and you are outnumbered but not to the extent that there is no hope?

How to win: cheat more than the AI

You know that move reminds me a bit of the Thrawn pincer. I guess we should call this the Eckharts Maneuver.

use good ship and don't be dummy

In Fall of the Republic, my go-to method for securing my borders is to… 1) Move all ships away from my interior worlds and to the nearest border planets. 2) Move armies to border planets as well. 3) Begin building anti-orbital weapons on those planets and economy structures/stations on interior worlds. 4) Begin churning out Arquitens class ships and Corellian corvettes/consular corvettes/etc. Place 10-20 of each placed at border worlds and begin consolidating original border fleets into larger fleet groups. 5) Attach Heroes to Fleet Groups and put them on the offensive. Have Arquitens/Corvette Wolfpacks hold border worlds with support from ground based guns. Arquitens can outrun anything they can’t outfight and gang up on faster pursuers, corvettes can fend off missiles and fighter attacks. Have them fly back and forth across the map in one massed group to outrun larger enemy ships and pick them off. Doesn’t always work. Sometimes a fleet is just too big or AI path finding causes some ships to utterly go in the wrong direction or get stuck. But for the most part this allows me to hold onto planets against all but the most ludicrously big enemy fleets (like with tons of Lucrehulks that can tank 12+ cannon shots)

YES EAW TUTORIAL VIDEOS PLEASE

Finally some kind of tutorial! When I started playing I had basically no help and it took me a very long time to get the most out of EaW. keep up the good work!

If only I knew this, I wouldn't need the firepower of those 12 Praetors...

Love this tactic, it's my go-to against the AI. In the unmodded Forces of Corruption game, I would always use this tactic with Boba Fett or the Falcon as the scout. I'd also use it to kite defenses away from stations, then drop in a few squadrons of TIE Defenders or B-Wings to knock out the station's hangar and neutralize their garrison. About half the time the bombers would have time to knock out the shield generator too. Of course, this meant that the game got so easy that I had to look up mods lol

Really like these type of strategy videos

You can also use asteroid fields in order to split the enemy fleet up... you dont really want to sacrifice any of your ships especially as the Alliance

Eck on Eckstoo, a nice suprise, though I like both Eck and Charlie.

Ngl rlly helpful I’ve always loved the Wolfpack technique with bothan assault cruisers it can shred isds never done the divide and conquer excited to finish school this week so I can play some tr best way to start the summer

Damn, that's a good tactic. Better than fighter spam. New version, I'm kinda happy with. Nebula is actually useful. But the carriers have such a miniscule fighter capacity now that it's just daft. The hand Athonia class, a carrier, now only has one fighter squad (which means its a low threat now, so I'm thankful), but the Quasar has lost 18 fighters which has screwed me over because that's 12 Y wings and 6 A wings I don't now have. Quasar spam still works because of population, but more ships means more chaos. But, you win some and lose some, so hey ho. Hopefully, the next patch changes it to more meaningful fighter numbers.

Big fan of this video. Would love to see more videos regarding specific tactics in empire at war/thrawns revenge

I could watch a whole season of Eck doing Empire at War documentaries and never get bored

Amazing! You're an inspiration Grand Admiral Eck!

Wait, people weren't using the scout ship already? They've gone to plaid!

I’ve never played this game in all the years I’ve owned it lol, seriously planning to give it a go after watching some of your stuff!

Justin teaches innocent youtube watcher how to bully AI

Please please more of this it was very enjoyable Grand Admiral.

In the original, unmodded EaW, there is no way finder slot, all ships go in at once. Is there a way to change this, or am I forced to just work with what I have?

*So Lit Mobile sent me this wireless battery pack*

Aotr with its insane republic navies are a pain in the ass, I'll apply your strategy tomm

Love your videos keep them up

I'm putting forward "Eckhart Pinch" as the name for this maneuver. Definitely good strats.

Hey ecks. I just got empire at war with thrawns revenge. I was inspired by you. I was also wondering if you could do a video or series of videos about how you progress through each era for each faction. Ive been playing as the nr and have waited 60 weeks, but nothing has happened.

I want to did a similar thing in fall of the republic. I was playing on the confederacy and I was attacking Rothana, where the republic had a total of about 20 corellian corvettes, which would wreck my fighter heavy fleet. What I did was I sent a diamond cruise or a very close to their flights position where it caught the attention of about four or five Corvettes when I turned around and brought them back to the main fleet which destroyed them. I kept using this tactic to whittle down there Corvette numbers and then eventually there hopefully just attacked but since they had lost all of their anti-fighter they were very vulnerable.

Thank you Eck

Nice tactics!

Ever watched a history video about Admiral Yi Sun Shin? Because he has some tactics you might like in naval combat.

Note: This feature doesn't exist in vanilla EAW. Note 2: This is fucking op with the Zahn Consortium if you have the Forces of Corruption DLC. Bossk as Recon, Tyber with his Yeet-Cannon to rekt anyone bigger than a starfighter. If he is taking too much damage, cloak. You can also use Bossk or a few Crusaders to rekt the fighters off of Tyber.

great vid !! it'll be cool if you did something like this for ground battles because I suck at them and they're not the best part of the game

Ooh yes. This is helpful

Napoleon Called this “defeating your enemy in detail”. Even when you have the advantage this type of strategy is great to use in any situation. In any tactical game always use the greatest amount of force against the least amount of resistance.

I got attcked by home one, that corvette hero guy, rouge squadron and a y wing swuadron. All did I was target eith fighters and won lmao

Same tactics (Generally) for Total war Warhammer II. Its best to find some way to stagger your enemy so they don't all come at you with force. this is achieved with fast units to draw forces away while your main force deals with the divided force.

Great vid. I was kinda surprised you didn’t send the Bombers after ISD shield generators first? I play the Remake 2.2 which may have a different balance. Still it’s what I usually do and with a torpedo salvo big enough it’s works like charm.

This seems like a fun game

On unmodded, my go to trash fleet is 30 Y-wings, 10 X-wings, and 15 of the corvettes and sometimes a nebulon B or 3. It can kill a few large ships before the bombers go down.

You should also do ground battles too, for example, when using lightsaber heroes, press attack and then press the movement behind infantry so the attack animation plays and so you mow down infantry faster and the cloak doesn't turn off (at least for luke) for fall of the republic I am not as aggressive, because b1 battlegrounds are easy to kill anyway and there are alot of counters to Jedi there (like the rocket tank...).

Is it the "use corvettes to distract entire chunks of fleets?" strat Because I do this all the time in AotR, its fucking hilarious. You can also use Alliance Light Frigates to do the same and chase down enemy ground transports too!

Kill the octuples and quads first, as that's where most of the ISD damage comes from. 2-3 bomber squadrons is usually enough to kill a single hardpoint in one salvo. Also, make sure you switch which hardpoint you target slightly before the first one dies. If a hardpoint dies after shots are fired at it, those shots are wasted, which is a pretty big deal if you're relying on a 30-second bomber reload. Also, your 5 assault frigates and dauntless weren't shooting the secutor after you brought them in, since you never right clicked on the secutor itself. They got distracted by the fighters. You should really save your frigate punch for the flanking ISDs, and hamstring the isolated secutor with bombers, kind of the reverse of what you did in the second example. Once you split up the enemy, you need to target precisely.

Would Charlie be up to making a Playthrough in TR Galactic Conquest? If so, I think it works be really enjoyable to watch

How do you assign your ships\troops a group? Like group 1,2,3,4, and so on

To remove upkeep costs, keep your fleets over enemy planets. That way you can snowball and mass with no upkeep. Also, drop off a fighter or some tiny corvette off at enemy major shipyards after you win them. Any space unit, even a single xwing, will stop the enemy from building anything in space too.

How can you call the reinforcements jumping out of the hyperspace one by one? When I played galactic conquest all the ships come out from hyperspace at once

Rebel attack should make heavy use of fighters. I’ve knocked out bigger Imp fleets than this by doing a three phased attack. First phase, drop the gunship and keep it outlying and away from the slower star destroyers. Use x-wings or a hero if mass driver or super laser weapons are in effect. Keep a corvette scout in play at all times. You can supplement with missile cruisers if you have them. They are murder on tie fighters! 2nd phase, drop x-wing and y-wings behind main destroyer fleet. Use a-wings and B-wings instead if you have them. Sweep in with with bombers vanguarded by fighters and take out all shields and docking bays. When these are neutralized, phase 3 should be to then drop in heavy cruisers and the imp cruisers will melt like wax in a bonfire! Works almost every time. It gets sticky however when they have missile boats in play too as they are great defense against fighters.

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lol my fav strategy is to turn on and of the interdictor when they try to retreat, cus that way theyre basicaly not shooting back

X-Wing Pilots: AGH FUCK IM HIT IM GOING DOWN TELL MY FAMILY I'LL MISS THEM AAAAAA- Music: Smooooth Jazz

Ackbar jump in from hyperspace and yell,”surprise! muderfukers! It’s a trap!”

Hello, congratulations on the video! I am from Brazil and here there are not many toturiais about the game. How do you select just one ship to start and bring others through hyperspace? ob: game without mods, thanks!

And I thought I was a clever boi by using Lancers to escort ISD's like I'm sweeping the galactic floor meanwhile Eck's here actually being the New Republic Thrawn

My strategy for most the mods is to create a massive fighter ship fleet. About a good 20 or so fighter squads should do. Then i get a majority of ships that are large carriers and tons of small dreadnaughts. I'll usually set the commanding officer as the wayfinder scout because it ensures he'll be in the back of the fleet and based on my enemies fleet i can figure which ships need to be dropped first. I always drop all the fighter squads i can so i'll the 20 or so i made along side anywhere from 10-30 fighter squads and bombers from my carriers. I then send all my fighters and bombers towards the enemy fleet always ignoring their fighters as we launch all missiles at command ships and capital ships destroying their shields, engines, and hangerbays. No with their more powerful ships dead in the water the enemy fleet will only be able to charge with their weaker ships. Since by this point a lot of fighters have died i send the survivors back and ill have more already respawned from my carriers. Usually brings you back to the fighter size when u started. Now i have my fighters pick off theirs as they wont be respawning with no hangers. By now their main fleet has reached mine except those that have no engines. This usually means they come like 1 or 2 at a time so i can have all my dreadnaughts up front taking out whole frigates in mere seconds with focus firing. I rarely end up losing ships and when i do its almost never command ships and usually corvettes or a frigate or two. I prefer this strategy because i essentially have two fleets the fighter fleet and the main fleet.

Where do you download the mods for everything? I just got the game but I don't know where to get everything else

Oh wow! this seems so helpful! I've gotta try this in my game! Fog of War: Bitch please.

Please please please make more videos like this

I like using ships that can hyperspace away the moment ships get to them

I must have missed something, how do you make it so you only have one ship at the start?

What do you do when you dont have vision on the whole map though?

is it the same for Awakening of the rebelion

TBH this is exactly what I started doing as the rebels. I would bring in lots of small ships as a lure, then bring in my larger capital ships on a single, isolated ship, take it down before other ships can turn around and react, then annihilate that one poor ship and run. I would slowly chip away at defenses until there was nothing left and I could just waltz in.

I wish you could do this in regular version of the game. You can’t scout in that one

Does the remake on moddb work if I got it off origin?

Can you do a tactic for defensive play?

I'd imagine this can't work as well base game due to fog of war in space battles? That and smaller fleet caps?

Does this work in the normal non nodded game?

i see what your talking about and i like it and is very rebel/ new republic but i like to put all my ship at the every end every close to each other so their gun and hit box are over lapsing in a very defense stance. and do to how the AI work where they lock on to ship one by one and not in a fleet when they go and attack you they will arrive one by one or in small group that you can mange. this don't work every time as their might be to many ship in reserve that hyperspace right on you to deal with or not enough ship on your part then if you can retreat do it. some battle are just not winnable so if you can retreat do it and don't waste ship in bad fight

You forgot to turn on the shields for the smaller craft like the Neb-B and the smaller Calamari cruisers and Subb's ship

Thrawn will be proud

I ve been playing this for a while and i ve found a bug in which some of my heroes appear x2 or even x4, does anybody knows how to fix this? Its nice to have more units for free but is anoying

15:44 Me yelling to look at the secutar at the top of the screen

Eck. Turns out, you can also use this tactic in empire of ottoman. I used your tactics to lure and divide the enemy force and crushed them with archers and swordsmen. I beat the enemy 74 large army with just 7 units.

10:56 how did you spawn with only one ship without placing it on the first position

Which galactic campaign do you think is best for playing the new republic?

Why is the MC80 Home One so much bigger than MC80 Liberties?

that thumbnail is VERY ACCURATE. i destroyed a SSD in thrawns revenge with them.

The eck pincer XD

Galaxy brain commanding the imperials

The TITLE looks like ITS written by FRANK Miller and I can't but help hear Linkara's voice WHEN I read it.

Sadly does not work on the Remake mod since you can only jump out of Hyperspace close to allies and there is a Fog of War. There i just send in a scout until I see enemy positions and try bring in my fleet where it can take out the biggest threat quickly. Usually play Empire because... Venators with TIEs are my vibe.

I did try it, but when the New Republic has Home one types and Bulwark 3s,its nearly impossible

Carrier spam Works (almost) every time

Ecks too teaches us how to rat ai

Thrawn's Revenge dificult? *Laughs in cheese lord*

The moment you order your fleet to move, they fall apart, so I always maintain their position on the spot where they jump in... What a mess, when you order some 8 CapShips to move -_-

New update on fotr makes it way harder to get the fleets to break up