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How to beat the Unbidden in Stellaris? Origin and Unbidden Behavior / Ship Builds / Diplomatic Options / Gates as a Winner / Which Fleet (Strength) for what? / Strategic Focal Points / Naval Capacity / Ascension Perks and Edicts / How to profit from the Unbidden Invasion.
0:00 Unbidden Strengths and Behaviors
11:20 Anti Unbidden Ship Designs
21:40 Fleet Strengths Necessary
23:40 Containment Strategies - Gateways and More
28:45 Naval Capacity
29:42 Edicts
30:15 Using the Federation
33:05 Custodian Powers and the Galactic Community
38:10 How to Profit From the Unbidden
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@PerfectAlibi1 2 года назад

While fighting the Unbidden, you'll want as many shields as possible while using anti shield or shield ignoring weapons. They have little evasion and no point defence, so Kinetic artillery, missiles and strikecraft can work well.

@ImmanuelCan 2 года назад

True, you can kind of get by with any specialized weapon. Best to specialize is Kinetics usually. Strikecraft are also doing nicely for the penetration aspect, unfortunately you cannot fill ships with strikecraft.

@PerfectAlibi1 2 года назад

Might want to skip laser, plasma and neutron launchers though, unless you're exclusively fighting them in pulsars or during storms. The latter of which only in the effected systems. XD

@ImmanuelCan 2 года назад

Yeah these are.. just crap. There should be beacons to lure the Unbidden to the affected systems. It would be cool to use them as traps :D

@clancys_creed3037 2 года назад

Threw my 200k fleet at the unbidden portal since it spawned very close. I fended off one 70k fleet after another until eventually the 170k fleet showed up and gave the finishing blow. After about 15 minutes and thinking i was screwed the awakened fallen empire showed up and decked the unbidden all the way to their portal. Now im gonna invade them for stealing my kill xD

@ImmanuelCan 2 года назад

Nice story! Sometimes it's better to be lucky :D But you had a good fleet there, just for attacking the portal outright, you might need a little more as you have noticed. Locking them in and containing them, then nibbling away at them, has always been my method. But surely yours was the much more brave way :)

@yaboicheezewheeze Год назад

See, a similar thing is happening to me, but instead of helping me, the awakened empire decided it wanted to destroy my empire

@andretavares5424 2 года назад

They came to my galaxy with some fleets that were 7x stronger than my total fleets. They destroyed my fleet, in seconds and I gave up. Now I know what to do :)

@ImmanuelCan 2 года назад

Wow, 7 times! Yes, some rough things can happen in Stellaris. Hope you'll go on to beat them. Crazy numbers can happen in the game depending on settings. Good luck and all the best!

@andretavares5424 2 года назад

@@ImmanuelCan later I realized that their strength was ser to 5x in the start menu. I don't know why I did that lol!

@ImmanuelCan 2 года назад

Ambition 😁 now you know 🙂

@kacper0563 2 года назад

The unbidden spawned one system from my capital (Earth) and immiediately bombed it into to the ground, along with my colony on mars and most of my core worlds. I could've prevented this if I wasn't in a war on the other side of the galaxy. Either way I beat their ass as soon as my fleets arrived.

@ImmanuelCan 2 года назад

What a mess! What a crazy spawn! Congrats to still beating them, well done! Also hi there and thank you for sharing this great story!

@kacper0563 2 года назад

@@ImmanuelCan aslo by 'bombed into the ground' I mean they completely destroyed it and and turned it into a tomb world, so there goes my 100 pops and 60% of my research output 😂

@ImmanuelCan 2 года назад

That can happen when you're the most powerful empire at the moment. The Crisis spawns most often near the score leader. Poor Earth and poor research. But you retaliated 🙂

@kacper0563 2 года назад

@@ImmanuelCan yeah, killed the xenophobe FE afterwards too but gave up after that because I was so behind in research point production 😂

@ImmanuelCan 2 года назад

Oh my 😁 Stellaris games are mostly salvageable though if you can avoid being completely wiped out 🙂

@amazingronaldo9656 2 года назад

Awesome video. I wound up, in a single player game, having them show up in a neighbor's system. I collected my fleets and jumped as close as I could to the rift system, and then stormed into it. By then they had moved their initial fleets out and were taking the neighbor's systems. I had a nice fight with the rift guardians and took out them and the station there. Then I sat half my fleets in that system to guard my back, and used the rest to follow up behind the Unbidden. Slowly I retook all the systems the other empire had and claimed them as my own with my construction ships. I tend to build my ships heavy on kinetics anyway, especially keeping Corvettes throughout with stormfire canons and high evasion. The rest of my fleets I slowly replace the destroyers and cruisers with battleships. I do mix in some carrier battleships but mostly just do the heavy battleships with all large and x-large weapons. I really got lucky with where they spawned as it was near a natural wormhole in my empire and I went right to that to protect my empire and had quick access to the rift system. In our MP game last night, my hive mind has about 10 - 100k fleets at the moment or so, and my ally (human friend) is next door to me and he is way behind me in tech and fleet size and composition. He just finished a long war, I had finished mine against a fallen empire that had awoken and was getting itself ready to attack. I pre-emptively attacked it before it could go ham on us, and just finished upgrading all my ships with the dark matter tech I got off their wrecks. The Unbidden just appeared in my friend's empire, and we saved and called it for the night before anything happened. So this video is great in helping me be better prepared to attack the Unbidden. I think I will change over what isn't already kinetic to even more kinetic and add in as many shields as I can fit in each ship. Then I plan on jumping as close as I can to the rift and taking that system. Then hopefully we can both work on cleaning up the fleets that are left while my other fleets hold the rift system.

@ImmanuelCan 2 года назад

Really cool stories man! Glad I could help you with the infos. There should be absolutely everything in. The only thing that has changed is that you can now see the Dimensional Anchor stations of the Unbidden marked on the map. Very handy! Good strategy for your MP game. You should be able to do it, even though it can be harsh if the Unbidden appear directly in your - or your friend's empire. All the best and good luck for defeating the Unbidden :)

@FutureMan420Blazer 2 года назад

what happended to your game? :)

@orangeisabadcolor 2 года назад

I am on my fist Stellaris play through and I think I’m low key fucked. Here is why: The Unbidden spawn next to me(like 10 systems from my capital), my total fleet power is about 150k - ish and about 30k of that is cut off from the rest of my empire (integration or whatever it’s called), and the Unbidden’s fleet power is about 70k per fleet with one fleet that is 170k. Also just realized that important parts of my tech tree are underdeveloped. And tips for how to get out of this situation?

@ImmanuelCan 2 года назад

Hey there! First congrats on getting so far in your first playthrough, pretty good. Then, all hope is not lost: If you can, refit your ships to one of the shipbuilds I show in the video, by far best is the kinetic one. If you have used auto-best ships so far, it will be a big improvement against the Unbidden. Even more important than weaponry is to have a defensive setup with mainly shields. From your fleet strength, you should even be able to beat the big fleet, but definitely the smaller fleets on their own which is what you should try to get done. Only do one vs one fleet battles - fleet vs station or fleet vs small fleet etc, then back out, repair, refill. Try slowly moving your 30k fleet back to your empire. You might have Jump Drives so you can jump distances where handy hyperlane connections are missing to reconnect. You'll find the jump button as a jump arc arrow right on top of the fleet interface. It's quite small, so hard to miss. If you can avoid fights, using occasional jumps to shorten the journey will speed it up very well. You'll get a 50% debuff on weapons and speed for 200 days on the ships but to reconnect, it's worth it. Make sure to watch the diplomacy and containment strategies part of the video to know what to defend as a priority and how to get support from AI empires as an addition. Defending will need a lot of moving back and forth and map checking at first until you get the hang of it and maybe fill the tech gaps you mentioned. But you have a good chance to be successful! Unbidden and monster fleet strengths are generally a bit bloated so even if they show the same fleet strength as your fleet, their specific weaknesses mean they will not be equal to your fleets of the same strength at all, at least if you handcraft the designs. Last of all, make sure to save the game before playing on so you can give yourself a little reloading leeway to try out different moves and learn a lot. Please tell how it goes and don't hesitate to ask if further problems arrive. All the best and Happy Gaming :-)

@orangeisabadcolor 2 года назад

@@ImmanuelCan Thank you for the help, I'll give updates on how it goes. Also since I am nearing the end of this playthrough (year 2440-ish), do you have recommendations on what kind of empire I should play next. Or whether I should make my own, and if so what traits I should choose.

@ImmanuelCan 2 года назад

Hey there, nice to hear! Creating own empires is great fun in Stellaris, especially if you know your general favorite playstyle, like.. do you like to tech much? Do you like war? .. you can tailor your empire to your playstyle to have a very fun experience and learn quickly. Then, there are the United Nations of Earth, which have a couple of own events scripted for them as an extra. All the Premade empires also definitely have a good concept behind them that you can enjoy to execute, but it can be hard to grasp instantly how to play them. The most fun is going for something you imagine would be great to play for you and would fit your playstyle. Experiment with it. You don't really need to optimize every little thing in Stellaris. You can do it, but it's more rewarding to go for an interesting idea, a great roleplay, a fun concept instead of playing perfectionism. Try to play your best with an empire that suits your style. I love to play tech empires, so I often go for that.. and there are many ways to play technological empires in Stellaris, too many to try all of them :D Even more different ways for war-based empires, trade empires, diplomatic empires, spy empires, ... - make something and try it out, give it a good try, try to play that cool idea of yours to your best effort and see what unfolds... Happy Gaming and looking forward to you beating the Unbidden :)

@PerfectAlibi1 2 года назад

0:28 Technically end game crisis can only spawn 50 years after end game time. But Unbidden have a special modifier that lets it spawn up to 50 years earlier if any empire has jumpdrives. And since the Ai will not hesitate researching those, there will ALWAYS be jumpdrives about somewhere. Thus we only see Unbidden spawn...

@ImmanuelCan 2 года назад

Yes, the Unbidden are a plague now. The odds have been further skewed.. they have I think always been the most common Endgame Crisis, due to Jump Drives.

@PerfectAlibi1 2 года назад

Yeah, for some reason they removed extra chances for the Contingency, with more synths, sapient computers and generally more robots in the galaxy. While leaving the Unbidden's jumpdrive triggers

@ImmanuelCan 2 года назад

And don't forget the Hak Hak Hakkers :D they also deserve.. some fun :D

@matheusexpedito4577 Год назад

Me, after researching jump drives for the first time in my 2st playthrought, not knowing this: well f*ck At least in this game i am *WAY* more powerful than my 1st and the crisis strenght is standard, i think i can fend them off

@youngstunna1594 Год назад

I can’t do it… I’ve tried multiple different timelines(restarts)and still no luck… even my best attempt I’m on now the aberant have already spawned in and the 3rd soon behind

@ImmanuelCan Год назад

Hmmm sometimes one is doomed. Sometimes.. you want to upload it to Google Drive so we might discuss it in the Community?

@bulbataras5135 Год назад

x25 grand admiral more interesting, 1 fleet = 11m+ and other like 6m and then 3m. With new meta u need rockets and carriers. Just ignore shields=)

@ImmanuelCan Год назад

Good point, the video is from before the fleet patch :) Will make an upgraded one once I have some experience with it especially for the weapon setup and fleet behaviour that has changed dramatically and you really have to know what you're doing now or your fleet will fly back and forth without a real attack plan :D

@DrewPicklesTheDark 2 года назад

I lucked out the first time they attacked since they attacked a fallen empire and got their ass kicked.

@ImmanuelCan 2 года назад

Perfect! :D

@blackrider6611 Год назад

The Unbidden just spawned for me, and I'm very scared. I'm in a federation with a bunch of AI, and my biggest fleet in around 80k, and all together, is about 180k. I'm on commodore and like a 2x difficulty. They spawned pretty far away, but I'm scared if I don't handle them fast I'll just lose. How should I salvage this?

@ImmanuelCan Год назад

Hey there! The Unbidden have quite changed a bit since this video however what they do still holds. Find out what kind of strength their fleets have and only engage them when you have around the same fleet strength. If that is the case, and you made your ships with a lot of shields and anti-shield weaponry, you should have a good advantage and not lose many ships doing this. You can stall the Unbidden quite a bit if you snipe their stations and constructors away, so it's good to build your ships with Afterburners so you can pick your fights (they are still very slow compared to speed built ships). Better use massive ships with a lot of shields still, these hold out best against the Unbidden. After a while (if you're not affected personally), you will gain some of their technologies from the battle debris. Depending if these are good against shields or not you should include them (the weapons aren't as good against shields afaik, so don't use these) - but the energy supply and the Unbidden shield technology should be Dark Matter shields, a whole tier above what you can research. Then, after you do some snipes on their fleets and stations and always avoiding fights that you do not pick (also avoid wormhole or L-Gate systems to fight), you will eventually gain an edge on their fleets. At this point the speed builds help you catch up and snipe more and more and eventually you will be able to confront the Unbidden spawn points and get rid of them completely. Also try to get the Galactic Community to focus on the Unbidden, that will also help to slow them down! All the best, your Immanuel Can

@blackrider6611 Год назад

@@ImmanuelCan tysm. I wasn't really expecting a response this fast, but this will definitely help.

@St4rTr3v1Ut10n Год назад

What's your rig?? How are you in such late game with no crappy performance?

@ImmanuelCan Год назад

10900k 3090 i picked everything in there myself and screwed and pasted it together. Yeah, before the Covid price hike :D

@PercyMCGaming 2 года назад

I believe the Contingency is worse

@ImmanuelCan 2 года назад

It's true, it's also very strong. Depends on the situation :)

@tredausmaxima 2 года назад

Technically they're the Reapers of Mass Effect 😂

@ukrainenews8247 2 года назад

I only have 50k fleets how can I kill unbidden 200k

@ImmanuelCan 2 года назад

A good question. It's possible if you reach 100k-120k to kill a 200k fleet. So you need multiple fleets or you can try to activate the little three triangles on the top of the selected fleet's UI - that will sometimes cause your allies to send fleets and attach it to yours. Might be enough to get a good fleet strength then. Try to become federation leader and gain control of the federation fleet. Try to get the Galactic Council to Focus on the Unbidden and get the helpful fleet enhancement decisions. Use strategic resources to gain buffs for your ships (in edicts menu) to increase their strength. Use edicts to get more naval capacity, faster ship building. For now I would try to destroy stations and distract the Unbidden until you have bigger fleets if 50k is the best you can do at the moment. Destroy stations until you notice them coming close to your fleet.. flee with the fleet until the Unbidden do something else.. then go back to destroy stations... repeat until you're more powerful. Be prepared to go above your naval capacity and overpay a bit if you want to fight the Unbidden. Also, be sure to use the right ship design as in the video. Use the Ascension Perk "Defender of the Galaxy" to deal fifty percent more damage to Endgame Crisis Factions. That is about all I could think of :) All the best in your fight!

@ukrainenews8247 2 года назад

@@ImmanuelCan thank you! Your video really help me and now I'm destroying the green unbidden, your tip about being able to match up against unbidden fleets with higher powers if you have the right ship design was really helpful

@ImmanuelCan 2 года назад

@@ukrainenews8247 Great to hear man, show them your true power :) Have fun and Happy Gaming :)

@ukrainenews8247 2 года назад

@@ImmanuelCan sorry to be back but I've found myself in this dilemma, my fleets (around 100k) can defeat a 150k unbidden fleet easily but I only have ~4 of them, how can I stop the unbidden and vehement from swamping my lands? also, I can't find the anchors, I've whittled down the vehement to ~15 systems but they still have 5 anchors

@ImmanuelCan 2 года назад

Sorry not to answer that quickly, I'm currently travelling. It can be hard to find the anchors and do all at once. If you can beat the Unbidden easily, you might split up one fleet to only focus on destroying their stations and scout for anchors in their deeper territories. When I get back home maybe I can add more. How's it currently going?