How to Become Elder of the Brotherhood of Steel - Fallout 4 Cut Content & Mods 

damn now i have to replay f4 again ^^ thx for showing. Till now i always liked your contend... Aaaand i somehow missed that mod... shamefully...

Actually, you could spare Maxson and either have him exiled or demoted back to a knight (with a charisma check).

Oxhorn not for xbox one :(

At least dir ne it is nie the obvious faction :-)

is it coming to xbox

i mean i got scrounger perk for w reason XD

@@AmeenAlnaimi 😂

Lol

*Takes every chem known to man in 5 seconds*

Honestly this would just be funny if this was real

Spike Slice well that's quite a coincidence cause that shit was funny af

Hentai Mora shut up bitch

Something about this reply chain is so fucking hilarious

Hey Donald Trump the Retarded Oompa Loompa, quit with all the hostilities.

perfect timing XD

Underwater vault?

Right!!! Wait underwater vault?

I personally love the combat zone as is but the cut content looks so cool. I would have loved to fight in the cage :')

@@DiaryOfALesbianGamer @NCR Ranger yeah. There was an underwater vault.

Maybe we'll get the vault in a future game since Microsoft now owns Fallout

Danse: He is too dangerous to be kept alive! Sole Survivor: It is not the Brotherhood's Way! I need him! Maxson: You have to choose! I am the only one who can save your son! Sole Survivor: *disarms Danse* Maxson: *uses Final Judgement* Unlimited POWEEEEER!!!! Sole Survivor: What have I done? Maxson: The Litany is STRONG with you! You are now known as .... Paladin.... Vader. Sole Survivor: Yes, my Elder.

Lapis Infernalis A man of culture lmao

@@lapisinfernalis9052 Maxson: "Proctor Ingram, the time has come. Execute Order 66." Ingram: "It will be done, My Lord."

Damn we need a fallout star wars mod Edit: *THEY EXIST*

Lol

If you are Elder , you give the orders , so ... yeah I simply hope there is no repeat of the Outcast situation in Fallout 3 In my headcannon i assume a lot of members are not happy about the death of Maxson , and would try a coup or leave, especially having a synth as the second in command

@@mariolis well the brotherhood is all about honor and duty. If the rules state you kill the elder in battle you become elder I think most would accept that.

@@hughmann9568 Have you played Fallout 3 ? The Outcast situation was a mutiny when the local elder violated the rules of the Western Elders & Broke Brotherhood tradition also , in Fallout 4 lore , Maxson reunited the Outcasts with the main force ... Also , Maxson was far more popular than his last real predessesor , Elder Lyons, who was in fact the elder that broke tradition and caused the Outcast situation Imagine if someone who wasnt even born in the brotherhood to begin with , killed the extremelly popular Elder , and he as a replacement was Lyons on steroids ... and appointing what is perceived as an "abomination" to be second in command...

AsterSea that made this mod everything to me, honestly

I know I wish you had a option to not kill the railroad in the vanilla game I really want that ballistic weave ability. Maybe someone could make that a possibility... "Wink Wink"

Carson TheMaster I have found a way to ONLY destroy the institute

Carson TheMaster you can keep all factions alive and hating each other xD

Yeah, a lot know this method, but if you talk to certain NPCs this unsteady peace gets thrown out the window. I wouldn't mind keeping the RR alive, if the Institute is gone, since no more Synths will be made for them to fuck the CommonWealth over with, alla Gabriel the Assclown Raider.

"They are of no concern until they attempt to take down the brotherhood, I dont care if they are helping synths it means less synths for us to deal with

Rango pistacho why did you reply to so many of these comments with basically the same thing

@@gamergodplays7153 do you have anything better to do?

Rango pistacho do you?

@@gamergodplays7153 well now you know why

That makes him a bit hipocritical because the whole point of Danse up to that point against Synths is that they are *potentially* dangerous to all of mankind (like skynet in the Terminator franchise)

Mmmmhh...nah. I think it more or less implies that he accepts the truth of *what* he is.

Agreed.

@Mitchell Hart aluhut detected

Mitchell Hart god obsidian with fallout with fallout 4s engine or a even better one would just be amazing same if they had elder scrolls now that would be amazing, to bad Bethesda are greedy

Mitchell Hart it shouldn’t cause some people who wasn’t involved with the game itself will be laid off but I do like that the higher ups are likely scared as hell over the loss of possible future investment into the already dead game

Mitchell Hart awful just awful, though maybe we should stop here cause pretty sure we could go on all day about this crap but don’t wanna spam the comments if thats the right term for it

I honestly wished they could but you know how they are💀

Nah, BOS was awesome with Elder Maxon

Jai Kundicevic lol not really 😂

@@supbro6505 I think it is you who is the dumbass. They clearly said the second comment as a joke.

Dustin Fudge their too busy withtheir dumb creation club

He used to be a lead writer?

Souperpie, John basically meant _"When did they say that, again?",_ not _"When are you going to become lead writer again?",_ humorously saying Ox should become lead writer.

Why would Bethesda hire competent people? That completely goes against what they have become as a company.

@@alexjones9094 nukes droped

they are too busy making $100 dlc

If he did there would be no chance for the Sole Survivor to convince him to spare him as he does so in secret from the rest of the Brotherhood. I don't think he would do so in front of his own men, not wanting to set a hypocritical precedence where he orders them to kill Synths but lets his favorite one go.

So the send-Danse-to-exile option owas added in with Maxson's arrival at the bunker?

The Wanderer if you don't kill Danse, Macon comes, if you kill Danse, Maxon doesn't come, but how would he know whether you killed him or not? Plot holes.

CD 2409 The concept of the butterfly effect can be considered here. Instead of thinking about the player being in control of what happens, we think about the character Maxon thinking about having sent you to kill Danse, if you chose not to kill him then maybe the conclusion that Maxon comes to during this post-thought is "oh crap I better go make sure." v.s. "Nah, I can trust the sole survivor." I have seen functionality in the game that suggests that it is not at all impossible to teleport the PC to somewhere outside the bounds of an area to keep the player from seeing them while using the dialogue camera to create "Cutscenes" where dialogue takes place without the Sole Survivors presence. Teleporting the PC back to wherever they were. My thought on this came from experiences from other games where there are cutscenes that take place without the Player Characters presence. Im going to use KOTOR and KOTOR-TSL as an example because a large portion of cutscenes take place where Revan or Exile are not present.

The Wanderer No, its called HONOR.

It’s probably how rogue elders are dealt with

its the vault 11 chapter

"I mean there just saving a small group of synths and they will probably end up dying on their own" "You know what your right"

@@rangopistacho6928 yeah even in the main quest line they save like 19-20 synths from the institute during the nuclear option in total lmao. And that's not even counting the synth casualties, as in the synths that died during the escape.

nah, also become leader of the railroad, and director of the institute, and you make peace with every major faction alive. this mod has to be made

Captain of far harbor, Overboss of Nuka World's raider gangs.

@@djwc6 then absolutely NO ONE could successfully invade the Commonwealth

We're heading to some Skyrim levels.

*Institute teleports in*

Plus you can make Liberty Prime follow you which is epic af(only if you choose to become Elder)

Ironic.

DO IT FOR THE COAT

DO IT FOR THE COAT

DO IT FOR THE COAT

DO IT FOR THE COAT

DO IT FOR THE COAT

Revmon Bobbin I've always thought the Institute questline with Father dying was rather cut and paste.

Revmon Bobbin Oh my gosh, wtf your right! Why isn't that an ending. Here are some near immortal people from the 1800's or older and you can get some of their serum as a reward and you can't use it on you dying son. WTF! But in far harbor elf you can save some random guy with it...

LocoArticWolf 21 yeep, thought process of Nick / Nora : save my son, who I have killed people to save, from cancer with this cure all disease cure , nah. oh some random suicidal Frenchman got nicked mirelurk , god save the queen I must save this man!

thats what should have been in fallout 4

Revmon Bobbin or give father the cure from vault 81

Alot of people already knew that since 2 reasons 1 same name as the kid 2 there from the Capitol waste but some don't

Shaun Steele yea i got a mod that let me kill him

If no one played fallout 3 that would be interesting

Hes not the last, he jus needs to hump some one and the line will go on :D

So he is the last. He's the last one. There aren't any others. He's the final living Maxson.

They patched this in as official update?

Do I need to check this or can I trust you?

@@robknight666 Bro I wrote this two years ago I don’t remember any of it. I think you might have to fact check.

​@@caseylo4219I'm writing this yet another 2 years later and can confirm your ancient claims to be real

i agree with you. lyons pride

Paffen Päft would have been bad ass to see Sarah Lions lead the Brotherhood to the Commonwealth.... instead of getting some bull crap story that the Elder of the Brotherhood of was cut down in combat

Tell me about it. When I first saw the Prydwen flying in, I got excited at the prospect of seeing her again... I figured her father was probably dead by then, after all. Then I went to see Danse and he mentioned an Elder Maxson and I was all, "Wait... The little kid? He can't be older than 20..." As much as I trash Arthur's BoS, I think they are cool. And they make for great antagonists. The heroic faction turned bad, using all of the resources attained by the Lone Wanderer and Lyons leadership for immoral and self-righteous means. I wonder what happened to our Fallout 3 character after the new leadership took over and reintegrated the Outcasts...

LocksAndChains I hear that. would love for a chance to work with the Lion's Pride again.... not the biggest fan of Arthur's BoS just mainly on the moral decisions that they make but they are the coolest action in fo4

dude, that was my first impression when i first saw the prydwen flying over to the commonwealth. i've expected that sarah lyons was on that ship along with the rest of the BoS from capital wasteland that i was fought alongside with in Fo3. instead i met a no honour bullcrap elder who don't gives a shit to the commonwealth's common citizens. these things with the west coast pride is bullshit. i'm glad i've exterminated the last of 'em in new vegas. but theres a character who died in a power armour when you're on a quest trying to find paladin brandis' recon squad. if you look carefully on this character(when you first found the missing squad's holotape), he's wearing a vault suit underneath the power armour. i wonder who that is. considering that the paladin brandis' squad is the first BoS force who put their steps on the commonwealth and was commanded from the capital wasteland(this was stated by paladin danse when you first commanded to search the missing squad) i wonder and guess thats the lone wanderer(main character) from Fo3 but, who knows..

But new vegas isn't a proper fallout game though

Correct on all points, Jokester. However, I'd still like this option. Why? Because it would be a perfect opening move to behead the BoS's leadership before the Minutemen follow up with a Commonwealth-wide assault on BoS positions. Thats an option I really, *really* wanted with Danse, and possibly any other BoS members that don't like being better equipped raiders. Leave the collection of iron-fisted fascist tech-cultists and join a force that actually /does/ fight to protect people.

Stealth_Pool_ 2 how? it follows lore better than Bethesda

Wasn't it already established that the East Coast Brotherhood is a heretical version of the West Coast? Even under Maxson, it doesn't follow the original code to the T, it only follows the original objective.

Jokester30 the bos in fallout 4 has a different ranking system and as far as I've seen paladin is a very high rank in this division considering the fact that there is a knight captain at the meeting which danse is ranked above and there's not not a paldin commander or star paladin.

check your load order for your mods, it sounds like there is conflict somewhere

Whats it called on xbox

Lmao

@@anonymousaj6418 Danse Dilemma

@@themissouriranger2829 thanks man

Hes a synth

@@anakinvader9120 1. You're 1 year late. 2. Doesn't really matter if he's a synth.

@@oliverhale3268 1) You're one year AND a week late 2) Yes it does

Nah.

@fuckface unstoppable Well, for starters, I wrote that comment a month ago. In addition to that, I never said that the BoS didn't hunt synths, I just said it didn't mather to some lad that randomly said 'Hes a synth'.

And turn the Brotherhood of Steel into the Klingons, where an Elder has to worry more about some Paladin or Procter challenging him to a duel, than the execution of the Brotherhood’s mission? Yes, the BoS styled themselves after medieval knights, but they retained a lot of practices and doctrine of the US Army. That is why they have ranks, chain of command etc. They know that asinine actions such as dueling your superior officer will gut the organization’s ability to carry out its mission.

@The Nova renaissance who cares about that shit the developers gave you an ending that isn’t even rewarding to the player, sure sentinel rank is fine and all but all that time spent and effort getting to that point was too much for just one promotion, the institute ending was much more rewarding than BoS ending, making up the time you missed with your long lost son, for filling his dying wish shown more emotion then becoming the father of the institute that’s more rewarding for a ending that will have consequences.

@The Nova renaissance I just do the BoS ending to get a more positive side from companions and the people of the commonwealth that’s the only reason I would do it, I don’t like getting lectured by piper because she hates the institute I had enough lectures walking through the BoS path

Blue Star Minutemen/Railroad ending is the most companion-favorable outcome so if you want the least hate from companions you should do those

This was probably cut from Proctor Teagan, I know I spelled it wrong. But it's still funny.

Sloth Donger They'd get so much hate if they sold cut content as DLC

Yeah it'd be a pretty dumb move for them to make

The High Res pack was free so his idea is still sound

ReplicatorFifth Its also garbage

Sloth Donger nah then it becomes a gimmick like mass effects " cut content " course it was free and fallout should have left this part in but we would end up with another form of dlc to buy .. seen it to with suicide squad I.e. pirate theater shots were gonna cut their profit so they made a special " extended scenes " special edition . we're gonna end up buying a game in pieces soon

Kegan Terry ^This. So much This^ That is the exact reason I don't like the Dark Brotherhood in Skyrim compared to Oblivion. Skyrim had you, the Listener fulfilling contracts. But in Oblivion all you had to do as Listener was listen, tell your Speaker the contract details, and collect your cut. Like a good Listener should.

Kegan Terry you need fcom commander

dude yes! fcom commander is one of the greatest mods out there. Get it! www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/14946/?

Kegan Terry Do you know what the minutemen are about? You are the General of the minutemen, yes, but that doesn't mean you get to boss around people. General or not "minutemen never rest". You signed yourself up for it, agreeing to be the General.

TheEndiPL still would've preferred ordering those civies instead of them ordering me. Like, "I've got something a little bit different for-" "YOU DO IT YOU PUNK BITCH!" "....Yes sir."

... I'm glad I could open this to others! Seriously the concept of the Sole Survivor COMING BACK 200 years later to FIX the Brotherhood of Steel. I felt that this is COMPLETELY unexplored. If they could at least have shown a FLASHBACK that the SOLE SURVIVOR had met or even served with the ORIGINAL MAXON or even BEEN HIS COMMANDING OFFICER he would be the one person to fully UNITE the BROTHERHOOD of Steel. There has to be a reason why they made NATE a Veteran Background and NORA a Lawyer. Giving them a life 200 yeas ago has to have a reason right? PM me sometime and lets talk about this. If you wish.

mr6johnclark great point!

Thank you! Nice to see others seeing what I see.

I know I'm late to this party, but I agree as well. I usually choose a separate faction per play-through, but in general when I saw the opening and heard about the SS's military background I assumed you could bring it into play with the brotherhood. I had also hoped the female SS could use her lawyer training to have extra negotiation dialogs (would have made choosing male or female survivors mean something). As it stands, using a past connection to the original Maxson would have made for the perfect segway into challenging him, though I think it would be more appropriate to spare him and keep him alive for his knowledge and experience. His views became to fanatical, he lost sight of the goals, by getting to caught up in his elitism. The SS's experiences before the bombs fell would serve to unify the brotherhood, remind them that while humanity has to be careful with and keep an eye on technology, its was ultimately the decisions of humans and humans alone that caused the downfall. Hmm but I guess that's a speech for another time. Like I said, I do think the military background is a disappointing untapped opportunity.

Better late than never... Dude.

Bitter Comments wouldn't that violate some kind of contract or something with bethesda.

They're professional Voice Actors, who will require being properly compensated- something that most modders can't really afford. And there may be some legal issues.

Bitter Comments That'd be neat but I doubt they would do it. Voice acting can fetch a pretty good paycheck and I doubt they'd record lines for free.

Bitter Comments People have already contacted various voice actors from the game. They're contractually obligated to not recreate their characters elsewhere.

gotta pay em first

If they did that, I should hope it's free. I own the season pass, but if they made others pay for something that should have been in the game, I would not forgive them.

Yeah they could make it involve the memory den or something

Silentcrypt ye

I would love it if someone made a Fallout 4 mod similar to the Skyrim mod called Cutting Room Floor, that adds in almost all of the cut content from the game.

Silentcrypt that would be cool but I bet the game probably would have a extra 20 gigabytes take up

there is now that option in version 2.9

the brotherhood respect the codex which says that it's legal so they don't have an issue with it

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Sloth Donger So are u saying if u want to be the elder, all u need is carry a big freaking gun in a power armor and challenge elder while he's carry light weaponry. That sounds easy, sign me up to the brotherhood.

Jasper Edwards Not really. You don't get to just walk up to the Elder, say "Let's fight right now.", shoot him and be done with it. You are officially challenging the Elder to a fight, meaning you get to use the equipment you want to use and he is given the time to use the equipment he wants to use, then both of you fight 1 on 1 while the other soldiers watch to confirm the challenge was legitimate. So if this ending was implemented the right way you would most likely face off against an Elder Maxson using Last Judgement and his Elder Paint Power Armor on the Prydwen.

+Grand Champ The Brotherhood doesn't have any human gods. Their "deity" is their military structure and this the litany that dictates how this structure is supposed to work. You follow your superiors orders, your superior follows his superiors orders and that one in turn follows the next person above etc. The only thing that can go above this direct following of orders is the very mission you were sent out for and if you're sure your superior is not beneficial to that mission you have official ways of challenging it and leading the mission to success in his stead. The mission in the Commonwealth was to find the supposed technical threat and stop it, which effectively means the destruction of the institute (which is different from the destruction of everything the institute ever created). While in the middle of a war against the Institute Maxson chooses to make yet another enemy in the Railroad (eventhough the Railroad is effectively fighting the exact same enemy), he then chooses to reactivate a robot meant to fire off nuclear bombs at a rapid pace (what happened to "keeping technology in check?") and, after finding potentially fake information about one of his highest ranking (and as far as the Commonwealth area goes, one of the most geographically experienced) Paladins he does not choose to imprison him and verify the information but instead asks to immediately kill him, causing unrest among all those Knights that still respect Danse and thus not only weakening his chapters military structure but also killing troop motivation. It makes a lot of sense to at that point say "This guy is unhinged and he is losing us the war by spreading us too thin and killing our own people. I'll officially challenge him in accordance with the litany and take over in order to lead his mission to success."

Skywalking Studioz you could just craft a jet pack but the skill point investment can be quite large depending on your S.P.E.C.I.A.L. Stats and what level you are making it progressively harder to get one point

Amin Bolouri ill accept it 144p

you can, I dont know if its in the mod but in the original quest when danse tries to make you elder you can pass a speech check to have him be elder instead

What a joke 😂

Danse dilemma is what you’re looking for good sir

SinnerBeta no?

"If I was a typical member of the BOS and followed Maxson for years like some sort of hero I would take the Sole survivor and throw him overboard" no mate, the Sole Survivor would take YOU and throw YOU overboard

LoneStarWolf Entertainment not necessarily.

Even if you do take over, the Brotherhood is still flawed. At it's heart, the Brotherhood can never accept that synths are people. They still demand tribute from farms. They still wish to commit genocide against the super mutants and ghouls. They don't issue the evacuation order when destroying the Institute and instead commit genocide on them too. If you were to not do any of these things, another Paladin would challenge you as Elder since you aren't upholding the Brotherhood's code, or a splinter faction would form like the Outcasts in FO3. And when you die, whether by getting killed or from old age, the Brotherhood will then go back to their old ways. There is no way to "fix" the Brotherhood, or any other faction, accept the Minutemen and possibly the Institute, if you want to handwave that after you become the leader of the Institute that you would put an end to Father's cruel experiments on the people of the Commonwealth and stop focusing on synths and more on technology that could rebuild society, although you can't actually do this in-game. The Brotherhood was founded on the protocols that Maxon was trying to uphold. Even if you did manage to change the East Cost Brotherhood, the West Coast would still cling to the same protocols and banish the East Coast eventually. Anyone who knows anything about the lore would always be wary of the Brotherhood, because they have always been the way portrayed in FO4. Hating anybody but themselves having technology, taking it by force much of the time (which is where Maxon is actually kind of progressive compared to his West Coast brothers), genocidal towards ghouls and super mutants, and they've always seen other wastelanders as sub-human. Hell, many West Coast members of the BOS would question Maxon's decision to take on outsiders at all. In any game taking place in the area of the NCR, if you try to join the Brotherhood, they send you on a suicide mission to retrieve a piece of tech from a heavily irradiated area, expecting you never to return. I think there is a possibility that Bethesda could have used to become Elder that would have actually been really cool if they actually did it, in hindsight. Nate was alive before the bombs fell and participated in the Battle of Alaska. Maxon (as in the Maxon that founded the Brotherhood after the bombs fell) was also a member of the military and probably also participated in Alaska. What if Nate and that Maxon were old war buddies who fought together in Alaska? That would give Nate at least a legitimate claim as Elder, having been friends with the first High Elder of the Brotherhood.

Just download the mod!

Yeah...

Is this a mod or can I do this on vanilla??

Mod, unfortunately.

What platforms is the mod available on?

but anon Maxon's BoS is amazing, it has nothing to do with degenerate communism

Hey, that’s unreasonable, but if it gave the game a few quests to do AS Elder, made the characters a bit more fleshed out, fuck, I’d pay for it (just drop it to $25).

Bet Memory Den stuff will get mixed into Bethesda's next Fallout or Elder Scrolls game in a way. Maybe New Vegas 2? Probably couldn't get it off the ground in time for this game or DLC so they pass it along.

What's a memory den?

Lex Luthor in good neighbor its a mind reading divice

Oh yeah. Why the fuck would that be introduced into Elder Scrolls? And an entire DLC about it seems very unlikely.

+Lex Luthor Well what about Operation Anchorage, wich entirely took place in a memory lounger?

Nobody I guess

Advooser Lol nice

Wait, do you mean the Great War or the Commonwealth war?

IAMELIPHAS It's a reference that Nick Valentine talks about. Nick is mentioning the Great War in which no one really won because Communist China decided to nuke most of the world.

Actually it should be possible, I mean, it's in the base game after all, so no external assets needed.

They have all sorts of mods for xbox now. Finally

Wait this mods on Xbox, what’s the title

The EliteMushyboy the title is the same one as it is on PC

Dude It's on Xbox One

Crystallking H Railroad doesn't

Vin Nozar no, but they make you their most trusted operative, I guess the point is; no matter who you talk to they put all their faith into YOU, regardless of what kind of person you are.

I completely agree with you however, that's true of most games when you think about it especially RPGs. I also do find it funny that despite some of these groups being the most powerful in their world the desperately need the help of some level 5 nobody who just walked in.

Brandon Sansovich exactly!

I'd much rather be forced to make a choice between being leader of a faction you have to build from the ground on up, or be the lowly initiate of the badass faction with high end gear and influence all over the place.

Ad Victoriam!

Mine its Pizza

My favorites are the Brotherhood Of Steel, New California Republic/NCR and Caesar's Ligion. "Ad Victoriam" "For The Republic" And "Ave, True To Caesar"

Fake Marshmello my fav is Caesar's legion.

McDonald's Level 100 Master All hail Lord Shad!