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Rob Hull guides you through how to bias your Deville amplifier in this no-holds-barred, drag-down discussion of multimeters and millivolts. He gives you clear and concise step-by-step instructions, with some impromptu guitar playing along the way.

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@gvb54
@gvb54 14 лет назад
Been using tube amps for 25 yrs and never truly understood how they work just loved the sound. Your series on tubes is second to none! Thank you so much for posting this and sharing your knowledge, it is appreciated. Looking forward to more.
@ArtDonna84
@ArtDonna84 5 лет назад
Rob, was looking for a simple video for biasing a Vibrolux and came upon this one. Since I purchase tubes like I'm sure many below from you all, I was happy to find this video. Very well presented, clear to understand and a great help for dummies like myself. Thank you.
@VintageRandom
@VintageRandom 14 лет назад
Excellent instruction. Just got a HRDV 410 and walked through the steps. Fantastic result. Beautiful cleans for days and very silent even with single coils. Thanks very much.
@antwannn111
@antwannn111 9 лет назад
Best explanation ever... Happened to be the first video I clicked on, what luck. You have just saved me hours of my life! Thanks for that!
@rockbandgamer
@rockbandgamer 7 лет назад
This video was so helpful. Replaced the tubes in my Fender Blues Deluxe reissue. Worked great! Thank you!
@bobandy3197
@bobandy3197 4 года назад
Same test point on the blues deluxe? Service manual for deluxe is different.
@yusufandongvlogs6954
@yusufandongvlogs6954 3 года назад
MAds
@bill.clifford.59
@bill.clifford.59 6 лет назад
Thanks for this awesome video! I just bought a deville and this video is a big help!
@wildparlor5456
@wildparlor5456 2 года назад
Great info and sick blues at the end. Love it
@JeffDumps
@JeffDumps 7 лет назад
Excellent video production and clear instruction, thank you!
@jeremyberg9693
@jeremyberg9693 3 месяца назад
wonderful presentation!!! breath of fresh air!!!!!!
@bazjones7349
@bazjones7349 6 лет назад
I have a mk2 deville ( made in mexico) I fitted a fromel supreme kit ,and changed all the valve sockets to gold ceramic .I usually set the bias a 68 mv ,I also recently changed the first ax12 to a at12 ,this has made the volume much more controllable
@real_fjcalabrese
@real_fjcalabrese 5 лет назад
Great video! Kudos for mentioning the connections.
@j_music_8779
@j_music_8779 6 лет назад
Nice video man! Very informational and easy-to-follow 👍
@rudolphgaroa1960
@rudolphgaroa1960 3 года назад
G'day Rob, I hope you've been well in this time of crisis. I'm 11 years or more late on this, but I guess it's better late than never. Amongst most of the Biasing for the Hot Rod Deluxe I've seen, I decided to follow yours because it is the most clear (visually plus the audio & explanations) I've just done my Hot Rod today .. with 101% confidence thanks to you. Just one thing which I thought is super important, for those non-techo's like me. .... that's the detailed settings of the multimeter. I had to go over your video a few times to be sure. Where you set the multimeter to "Volts" to take the reading of the plate behind the Bias adjust knob, but mentioned very little about changing the multimeter to mV when setting the actual Bias while at the same time looking at the mV readings. I was lucky I saw the different settings showing on the video for your multimeter and so followed. In my case every detail of the procedure is important. Hope this will help you help us (non-techos) for future video releases. Stay well and all the best. ru
@jamessanscrainte9533
@jamessanscrainte9533 4 года назад
Thanks so much for making this video. Great explanation and instructions.
@mjs28c
@mjs28c 6 лет назад
Great video! Very helpful and informative. I've had my Deville for probably 10 years and I was never 100% happy with the gain/overdrive channel. It sounded.......raspy.....not smooth at all. I installed a Fromel kit, which made things better....but still....something wasn't quite right. I had the amp serviced/biased/etc. Again.....better, but not quite 'there'. So I found your video and did as you suggested. The bias was set at 58-59, and the blue trimmer was epoxied in place. I powered-off and carefully trimmed the epoxy. I set the bias to 68 (the alleged 'sweet spot'), let it warm-up and took it for a spin. Much better! I was more satisfied with the gain....definitely an improvement. I also thought the clean channel had improved as well.....I could hear a difference. I kicked the bias up to 70 and I'm happy with it. Looking forward to next band rehearsal.
@GameLevelEditor
@GameLevelEditor 13 лет назад
Most excellent straight forward biasing video ever.
@devinyuceil
@devinyuceil 12 лет назад
Thanks dude, great video, very well spoken and nicely put together! I'm just about to change the tubes on my Blues Deville and I hope I goes as smoothly as your video!
@PeterDad60
@PeterDad60 7 лет назад
That's some purty good playin at the end Rob!
@mrgroise
@mrgroise 11 лет назад
Excellent. Thank you for your time and incredibly helpful reply. I really appreciate it.
@cuzimamadman
@cuzimamadman 11 лет назад
thanks rob, and thanks for posting! great vid!
@nickgiovannucci7922
@nickgiovannucci7922 11 лет назад
Oh ok! Thank you for the quick reply! Your video was very informative and helpful!
@bostonmassappeal
@bostonmassappeal 11 лет назад
Awesome. One of the best vids on youtube.
@tamuna61
@tamuna61 14 лет назад
Great vid, clear and to the point. thanks for that
@rubentrevino6288
@rubentrevino6288 10 лет назад
excellent video and kudos for providing safety review . . . very important!
@TubeDepotTV
@TubeDepotTV 10 лет назад
thank you for your wonderful comment.
@01MrGibson
@01MrGibson 11 лет назад
Hi. OK understood now, I'd got milliamps on my mind. Got the right measurement now. Thank you for all your help. Brilliant.
@aerocharles8207
@aerocharles8207 9 лет назад
Thanks!!!! Right on spec , just did mine....sounds great!!!!!
@aidodonnakgb3065
@aidodonnakgb3065 8 лет назад
this was very informative, cleared up a few things for me. cheers mate much appreciated p.s guitar playing at the end was killer, should upload a video with just you jammin
@RSethTV
@RSethTV 12 лет назад
Great Video Rob!
@dstrats
@dstrats 14 лет назад
Great video, well done! I own a HotRodDeluxe and this thing is always frying tubes. I took it to a tech who claimed to have biased it correctly but two days later at a gig I only had one 6L6 working, glowing extremely bright amber, distorted badly on the clean channel (I only use the clean channel) until it died all together. This was back in '05. I have a tech friend install new tubes 'bout a year ago and bias it, and it distorted again. I bought new tubes and I'll use your vid to DIY. Thx
@dcabinet
@dcabinet 15 лет назад
thanks for the great videos!
@MatthiasLenardt
@MatthiasLenardt 6 лет назад
Really good. Keep on rockin.....
@anthonyfigueroa9289
@anthonyfigueroa9289 6 лет назад
This is amazing! Thanks
@waitin4winter
@waitin4winter 13 лет назад
extremely helpful video. thank you so much.
@LewisShieldsUS
@LewisShieldsUS 3 года назад
Great vid, thanks.
@01MrGibson
@01MrGibson 11 лет назад
Good. Point taken. I just bought a fender hotrod deville that had a very loud microphonic howl, seemed to be the first valve in line of the 3 small ones, was going to buy a complete new set, but then I just swapped the first to around absolutely perfect now. A good hint to try first.
@CesarRomeroTheOriginal
@CesarRomeroTheOriginal 9 лет назад
great video
@ChadBoston
@ChadBoston 10 лет назад
Fantastic presentation!
@TubeDepotTV
@TubeDepotTV 10 лет назад
Thanks ...
@Christophe_L
@Christophe_L 12 лет назад
Sweet playing!
@brandonbarker9421
@brandonbarker9421 6 лет назад
Great video man.
@MrElmerrocks
@MrElmerrocks 8 лет назад
nicely done video
@memoglz
@memoglz 12 лет назад
@TubeDepotTV i knew it was a legacy because of the bridge and the tremolo arm.... they´re just the best guitars for me, i have the legacy special model, and also have a deville amp... awesome combination... excelent tutorial i am about to do this to my amp, greets!
@glennkubik3774
@glennkubik3774 7 лет назад
Very Good Explanation! Glad you mentioned safety. Too bad for the Test Point - the PCB should have a Tip Probe socket for holding the DMM's probe. To minimize the chance of getting an electrical shock (although not UL approved/tested) I wear the Black thicker Mechanics "Nitrile Gloves". Love 6L6 amps like the Deville (I have a Peavey ValveKing 2x 6L6). A dab of Nail Polish or RTV/Silicone keeps the pot from moving after being set.
@4Dcruz
@4Dcruz 13 лет назад
@TubeDepotTV thanks a lot! I ended up settling at 70mV, messed with it back and for for a while and 70 just seemed to be a good middle ground where i got the best tone without killing my tubes
@Karlspace0u812
@Karlspace0u812 10 лет назад
Thanks for the info on the math!
@Thecaveandcognition
@Thecaveandcognition 6 лет назад
Great video thank you!
@Aljester
@Aljester 11 лет назад
thanks for sharing. Very well explained! :)
@sixstringer82
@sixstringer82 14 лет назад
Thanks for the reply and help David or guys at tube depot!!
@zarrir
@zarrir 11 лет назад
Your videos are so cool
@BETILYO
@BETILYO 11 лет назад
Thank you so much, i will take care of those issues!
@nathanexplosion7442
@nathanexplosion7442 9 лет назад
excellent video thanks a lot!!!
@twirlyboggs
@twirlyboggs 13 лет назад
awesome post!!!!
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Thanks for sharing
@382002mat
@382002mat 12 лет назад
Thank you for your answer,i'll contact Soldano soon! Great video!!
@LeviSiccard
@LeviSiccard 12 лет назад
hey, yes, all the solder connections are fine. I just thought it was strange that i couldn't get it under 73mV but i made a call to the store and they said it's perfectly normal. They offered me to return them in if i wanted, so they could give me another pairbut as you said 73mV is a nice value. Great vid by the way! nicely explained for electronica noobs (like me)
@rccarsandmusic2641
@rccarsandmusic2641 3 года назад
thanks for the help I lowered my bias as low as it can go 30. now its playable beyond 1
@justplanecrazy3d
@justplanecrazy3d 14 лет назад
Thanks for the reply TubeDepotTV.
@alburboy
@alburboy 11 лет назад
very informative video. i enjoy it, and u play great too. keep posting some good stuff. :)
@RoxxHoffner
@RoxxHoffner 9 лет назад
Very informative and to the point. Thanks for sharing.. Mighty fine guitar playing as well. That's how my amp used to sound. I repaired a cracked solder joint at the "foot switch" connector, but now I find there's something not right with the far right, small(pre-amp) tube. A friend tested my tubes by removing them, then stuck new tubes in thew sockets(1 by 1). That's when I noticed he wasn't quite somber enough to be doing this test. He either bent the pins and/or caused damage at the connection. I realized this when it popped and cut in and out as I barely wiggled the the tube. Are the tube pins worth messing with till they fit again(If that's the only damage) or should I just replace them with new tubes?
@Mindstrikedojo
@Mindstrikedojo 6 лет назад
Great vid just subscribed glad to find someone who can explain step by step for a D.I.Y. saved me money. I have the blues deluxe reissue is this similar process as well?
@Jrockneta
@Jrockneta 4 месяца назад
Great, thanks 🎉
@tommyapplegate30
@tommyapplegate30 12 лет назад
Thank you I found the problem it needs new tubes 1 overloaded due to the lack of electricity. I'll retube it & be careful of what is tied into the outlet before I plug it in. Thank you for your videos on tube amps & a walk though of my & many other peoples post.
@moogmanXanders
@moogmanXanders 11 лет назад
thanks, I also tapped the reverb tank and could hear the springs through the speakers so thats working ok, it was bad timing too cause my Wampler tweed 57 pedal had just came in the mail and I was itching to try er out. Still in Awe over how many tools and tube accessories you have on the tubedepot store, wouldnt mind getting one of the 18 Watt british amp Kit sometime in the future.
@entrenuves
@entrenuves 3 года назад
Holy shit thank God for this video!!! So well explained!!🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
@zdsminorz
@zdsminorz 7 лет назад
Thank you so much !!!!!
@moogmanXanders
@moogmanXanders 11 лет назад
got the new JJs in the mail today and checked em out by swapping one position at a time, swapped V3 nothing put the original in. tried V2 still nothing, tried V1 which I suspected and got a low volume fuzzy tone even on 12, so I put another one of the JJs in the V2 position and she jumped back to life with even more tone, put the last new one in just to complete the set and i figure ill hang on to the one good one for emergencies till i get a few spares, Thanks again for your help
@cassvirgillo3395
@cassvirgillo3395 8 лет назад
Hi Rob, Tube Depot, Just a little FYI, the ribbon connectors on the Deville can come loose and this will cause issues with the amp and performance of. El Paso Tube amps on RU-vid did a video about this problem, worth a view. Discharge filter caps first when working on amps, use only one hand when hooking up meter. Also see Uncle Doug on YT, very knowledgeable. Take care, C.
@sawyerandjackfucking
@sawyerandjackfucking 11 лет назад
+1 for checking the tube sockets! I can't tell you how many times I've had to re-tube peoples amps with nearly brand new tubes because of problems from bad tube socket solders. I always clean ALL the solder off and use proper leaded solder, not that lead-free crap.
@harrykarmona
@harrykarmona 13 лет назад
Hi! great tutorial! I have a question, I have a old hot rod deluxe made in USA and I would like to know what are the valves you recomend me. I would like to change all of them. Thanks from Spain!
@yimmiytube
@yimmiytube 14 лет назад
I don't know much about amps,I'd rather watch your playing.I like it,U teach?
@michaelsawyer6887
@michaelsawyer6887 5 лет назад
Thank you sir
@robertnewman2864
@robertnewman2864 10 лет назад
Excellent instruction. Can this similar bias adjustment be done on the Fender 410 blues Deville reissue, 2005 model?
@timothywaldvogel
@timothywaldvogel 13 лет назад
thanks for this
@alvin10388
@alvin10388 8 лет назад
thank you for the great videos as always.Sir i have question,I have hammond 291AEX 240 euro power transformer,but the primary has two black wires not like us version ,in this case when i connect to champ 5F1push pull pot.do i have make sure which is hot and return or i can connect any of these two leads switch and fuse?any help really do appreciate.
@robrobinette
@robrobinette 10 лет назад
Very nice video and it's just not right that your top technician can play the guitar like that. Very impressive.
@TubeDepotTV
@TubeDepotTV 10 лет назад
I so wanted to be a guitar god ... but sadly my playing has always been well below the "god" rating. Therefore, I had to find a real job ... enter electronics tech.
@otaypanky2
@otaypanky2 11 лет назад
it's Bob from Brookwood Leather : ) Otaypanky is my alter ego ~ Have a great 2013
@troydog86
@troydog86 13 лет назад
i got a hold of some tad 6l6gc-str, they sound fantastic! biased at 75mv excellent tone.
@almpinho
@almpinho 8 лет назад
Hi, fantastic video! I have this same amp and at now I know do the bias adjustment in my HRD 2x12". But I would like to know which is the plate voltage of this HRD for calculate the 100% of bias value and 70% also. I thing this value varies from each same amp and I would like to know how measure this value. Please, if it's possible to you, make a video explaining how to measure the HRD 2x12" plate voltage value!!! Thanks
@1thess523
@1thess523 5 лет назад
I just got onw for my son 👍, can you clean the tone pots when you remove the backing plate?
@Sandelb
@Sandelb 12 лет назад
Awesome video, just what I was looking for. Recently picked up one of these babies used. It played fine for a day or so then started doing some heavy volume fluctuating. The jewel light also fluctuated but not always in synch with the volume trouble. I popped the back off and checked the connections as Rob did in the video and they looked solid. It's my first tube amp and don't want to assume anything. Would a good first step be to pick up some new power tubes and pop them in?
@zoomer51
@zoomer51 10 лет назад
when you said "there's a newer model", i suppose you were talking about the hotrod deville 3 ? as far as gettin new tubes, i'm gonna check out your catalogue see if there's any special custom sets for the 212 deville.. Thx once again for you answers and kindness.
@erikolson2897
@erikolson2897 11 лет назад
Hey Rob, thanks for the great video! I followed it very closely, and my volume is still very low when I tried to do a sound test. power tubes flicker blueish purple as I send a guitar signal to it. these amps are very loud as you know, but I have to turn up a lot to hear anything. I checked the voltages at the large grey caps and they appeared to be stable. I also replaced the 2 12ax7s closest to the inputs 1& 2 I was hoping you might have some thoughts on what might be going on here. thank you
@deeraygarcia1
@deeraygarcia1 9 лет назад
thanks so much
@rockventures
@rockventures 11 лет назад
Brilliant vid and pickin ! The lad just picked up a HR Deluxe ii ....fantastic sound except the power tubes are noisy on some low notes. Gonna try some damper rings but if that doesn't work then may be putting your instructions to use soon with a pair of new tubes.
@guitartec
@guitartec 14 лет назад
Yeah, that makes some sense. After I watched your vid, I perused other utube biasing vids, and all the techs were touching the tubes and viewers were commenting the same thing I said to you (I guess I'm not as alone as I thought in my old thinking). It would be so cool if you could demystify this old wives tale by doing an unbiased test (no pun intended) using two sets of matched power tubes, one totally filthy, and one spotless.
@MylesJP
@MylesJP 12 лет назад
Nice demo! I have the same amp and it has been great aside from one issue. Is the volume knob on your amp extremely sensitive? There seems to just be a fraction of a degree between inaudible and glass-shattering loud with mine. Is there an easy way to either adjust this or perhaps replace some hardware to distribute and voltages a bit more evenly? Thanks!
@brenfen
@brenfen 12 лет назад
Great video. Should the bias level be set differently for different brands of tubes or is 60 generally a safe bet?
@cravelp1115
@cravelp1115 11 лет назад
Hey, excellent video! Very informative. Would the Hot Rod Deluxe be the same way, but set at 40v instead of 60v? or would it also be 60v?
@Yoshisakan
@Yoshisakan 6 лет назад
Great video, thanks! Is the procedure similar for swapping out the 12ax7s? My deville has a noisy buzz in the gain channel. Ive tried multiple guitars and it nets the same result. Also when turning up both the presence and reverb past 50%, it makes this high pitched scream. I'm hoping one or both of these issues would be fixed after checking the solder points and swapping tubes.
@deathbuster927
@deathbuster927 6 лет назад
It could be a microphonic tube. Fortunately preamp tubes don't need to be biased, you can just replace them without any further adjustment.
@gibstone23
@gibstone23 10 лет назад
Hi Rob, firstly many thanks for this lesson, it was really helpful. I live in the UK so I have bought some GT-6L6-GE tubes from a local supplier. I have followed your instructions however even at the lowest setting I cannot get the Bias under 76. Could you suggest something I am doing wrong, it all looked pretty straight forward. Thanks Lee.
@Myamptech
@Myamptech 9 лет назад
Lee Gibson - sounds like you have some very hot running tubes. 76mV is not outside the limits of the tubes ... they will just run hot. The typical bias range is 60mV - 75mV.
@Cro55co
@Cro55co 11 лет назад
Thank you so much for your video mate! Can you please tell me why did you need to read negative voltage before you read positive also do you only bias when changing power amp tubes or also when changing preamp tubes! Many thanx
@gaur1000
@gaur1000 14 лет назад
Hi Rob! Thanks for the great manual for replacing the power tubes on the DeVille. I've the same amp (only difference: I've got the 4x10" version) and recently I replaced my 6L6 tubes. Now I've got a question: My other amp is a Fender Twin Reverb Reissue from 1992 and would ask you for a replacement manual for the power tubes there. Same as on the Deville? As far as I know the Twin has also a BIAS knob. What are the measure data for the BIAS there?
@al94551
@al94551 11 лет назад
Hi Rob, Like the video. Good solid and easy to follow. I have just changed to TAD 6L6 tubes and during biasing could not get less than 61mV at the bias test point (highest voltage pot would go was -60V, which gave me 61mV at the bias test point). I therefore backed off the pot voltage until I got 70mV as the bias voltage. Is there large tolerances between amps, or should they all be able to get 60mV without having the pot at max counterclockwise Regards, Allan
@otaypanky2
@otaypanky2 11 лет назад
Nice pickin' Rob : )
@OhHeyFixItGuy
@OhHeyFixItGuy 14 лет назад
Hey Rob I really appreciated the video as I just bought a Blues Deluxe and it looks like the tubes are in same configuration. I have a lot of noise coming from the middle 12AX7, do I need to bias them as well as the 5U's if so is there are similar reference point and and adjustable potentiometer for the other side? Really appreciate the video, going to save me some money. Oh yah the noise goes away when I put pressure on the tube so maybe a quick solder is all that's needed.
@someguyonaguitar
@someguyonaguitar 13 лет назад
@TubeDepotTV Thanks man. I just got JJ 6l6gc's and a tung sol 12ax7 for the V1 spot and two electro harmonix for the V2 and V3 preamps. Sounds great even without biasing it yet. Which leads me to my next question: I have an analog multimeter, any idea what setting it should be on? AC or DC? 500, 250, 50V?
@jameslomax1271
@jameslomax1271 5 лет назад
I have a acquired a fender De Ville 410 and we used it while having a practice it sounded a bit distorted, and after an hour we had a rest and whilst we were sat down it did a few pops. Have you any idea what could cause this please.
@MarcinPietrzycki
@MarcinPietrzycki 4 года назад
Thaaaanks!
@MattsArtStuff
@MattsArtStuff 7 лет назад
Question? Is it normal to hear a buzzing sound coming from the upper PCB board on the Fender 410 Deville? It sounds as though it might be coming from one of the large grey capacitors. Thank You, Matt
@zoomer51
@zoomer51 10 лет назад
first off thx for this tutorial, im planing to get a used 212 deville and that's exactly what i need to check it out in a basic way.. Just a question though since im no tech or whatsoever, you first checked the "general" voltage by putting the red pin close to the bias pot, is there any solder point there since we can't see from that cam angle ? thx in advance for your reply. Cheers from france
@bryanmanio_
@bryanmanio_ 14 лет назад
@TubeDepotTV Looks like one of the preamp tubes was a little loose! Thanks for all the help, do you guys ship to Canada and if so, can you ship via USPS?
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