How to Build the BEST Teams! Honkai: Star Rail Team Building Guide 

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@@SaberdudWE ARE MAKING IT OUT OF THE NUT W THIS ONE

Queue Cocolia's moans 😈

Hey, don't underestimate the standard harmony characters. People recommend Tingyun all the time, and Bronya and Asta get recommended often.

Tingyun is great, Bronya is still as good as she was at launch just overshadowed by Sparkle, Asta and Hanya are really good, and Yukong is really good but harder to fit into her niche as she usually needs a speed tuned team Maybe that's just cope though since I also have no 5 star harmony units lol

While this would be useful, it's so subject to how invested each given character is and what content you're doing that it would be incredibly complex.

That kind of takes the fun out of it though. It's a few steps further than seeing spreadsheets of damage percents on relic sets and stuff

@@ButtersGettingHard but as a new player, its a lot of work to find comps that work because in every video on YT its - take this and this op character, but i dont have them. and i rarely can find ideas about alternatives

​@ButtersGettingHard I'll never understand why people use Excel to play star rail

Welcome to the nut nation!

you can't build two dps per team even as a midgame player. It just doesnt happen. Hypercarry is eternal and way more approachable concept. If you are at point when you can build, say, 80\150 topaz and ratio at the same time, all power to you, and you probably dont need any advice. 1-2-1 is exactly a product of funneling all your resourses into carry, while having budget supports and half-assed gear for them. Double\flex teams (kafka, blade+jl, ratio+topaz, whatever comes next) are luxury for bored endgame players who had been farming relics for a year.

He mentions 2-1-1 dot teams in that same chapter

playing genshin since release also taught me this, seeing new hsr players raging at their luck and truly believing they can't clear content because no luck is funny to me

it does take away alot of the fun i have playing when i have to spend a month farming to max lvl max trace full gear a character and then i go into MoC 12 or swarm disaster 5 or pure fiction 4 and i cant even clear the rewards like what was even the point of all that tedious mind numbing effort thats like a primary reason i prefer genshin atm bc my account is older i have dupes on characters and i dont have to worry about dps checks and then 3 months later the brand new 5 star is out to replace them

I guess my counterargument would be - how else do you do varied content, and how else do you give a use to different character archetypes? Before PF Erudition characters were basically useless because MoC focuses more on single-target damage. In a game like Star Rail the only way to do different gameplay styles is to design different game modes with different flavours of combat. And sure, building two MoC teams AND two PF teams AND two of these new Hunt game mode teams IS a lot of work... But it's not like they're taking away resources if you don't do it. If you had two teams that could 36 star MoC when PF came out and you couldn't get a single star in PF, you weren't actually losing anything - you still cleared MoC, and you still got all the same resources. Getting PF was a pure positive, it simply allowed you to get more resources if you wanted to build a PF team, if not you could still just focus MoC.

@@masterplusmargarita I think the issue here is less about varied content existing- I think that that's actually quite a good thing, to give more characters a niche to exist in. The issue is in how expensive and time consuming it is to BUILD these teams. As mentioned, it can take weeks to build a single character to even a useable state, let alone a good position. But especially if you're someone like me who hasn't played since launch, it can be insanely time consuming to build the two teams required for even ONE end-game mode, let alone six- And six is assuming you have two teams for each game mode every single time, which isn't necessarily reflective of reality.

​@@tyinykThat's exactly how Hoyo wants it to be. Even going back to Genshin's release, their model is to put limits on important grinding to force players either to suck it up and wait or to spend money to recharge resources for grinding. If we had infinite energy resources then the grind would mostly be trivial; a decently built team could bust out 1 cycle of calyxes in 4-5 mins on auto. A player with a free weekend would probably be able to crank out a fully built character. But Hoyo wants money, and they can't always be dropping banners, so they get the hardcore grinders by getting them to recharge just to speed up the process, which they either buy jades to use to recharge or use their saved jades which will make them spend more on upcoming banners.

An E0S0 Aventurine only gives 1 debuff every 2-3 turns, so it's very much YMMV depending on how deeply invested you are into him.

she didnt. is 20% worse than acheron at same level of investment, but still a second best solo dps. technically DHIL burst is stronger, but JL gets free crit, has amazing SP economy, at any non-zero cycle scenario gets same numbers with way less investment.

I'm pretty certain he's specifically referring to buffs to ATK, not damage increases as a whole. From what I've seen, the HSR damage formula has a lot of multiplication going on, and stacking bonuses to a single multiplier is often less effective than increasing different multipliers at once. For example, if you have 150% in one category and 100% (neutral state) in all others, and add 30% to that one category, you get 180%. But if you instead add it to a different category, the result is 195% (150%*130%). These are crude numbers, but I hope they get the point across. Continuing to stack attack is less efficient than buffing her in other ways. Here's my thoughts on the situation (albeit as a relatively new player). Jingliu has huge attack increases already (in Spectral Transmigration state she gets bonus attack of almost double her base attack from draining ally hp when attacking), plus she's built to get lots of crits (40-50% crit rate free from the Spectral Transmigration state). She benefits more from allies with things like DMG% increases, DEF reduction on enemies, energy boosts for her ultimate, or speed for extra actions instead. You can also just use another damaging character instead of trying to boost her effectiveness, since she's already so effective at dealing damage. If you look at strong teams with her, you will find units like Bronya (extra actions and large DMG% from skill), Pela (large DEF shred on ult, plus Ice res shred on skill at E4 which is a different category), Blade (synergistic damage character), Tingyun (energy increase and DMG% from ult, while being a skill point positive support), or Ruan Mei (buffs to lots of things while being skill point positive). Two of the units are mostly chosen for how they improve Jingliu's attack rotation and give DMG%, two provide damage in alternative ways (DEF shred is very potent and a second damage character can equate to double damage), and Ruan Mei just seems really good.

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I think the dmg changes are just based on the characters stats,kit,relics and light cone and what enemies do. Did you still have stuff equipped? If you haven’t done it yet maybe try removing them and going back naked into a fight like in a low level calyx. Dan Heng gets buffs based on eidolons + kit. And if you crit that’s more dmg too. He hits different depending on what happens so maybe focus on characters that doesn’t change much damage wise like Natasha. All her buffs are more about healing. Idk what characters you used and you probably knew some or all that already but just in case. It’s the only thing I could think of that makes sense to me rn. Coz I feel like some ingame tutorial would bring it up. It’s probably just a visual effect of being held instead of a click/press. I kinda feel like checking it out for myself now too tho lol

@@coff1184 Ha, good shit dude. My dumbass didn't even think of stripping everything before battle... I gotta stop smoking w33d lmao. Wow I feel dumb lol. Thanks man. 😁👊

@@HoboCopX lol it’s fine everyone gets those moments sometimes

As a general rule, if you are having trouble surviving the stage, build your sustain, if you have trouble hitting the dps check for higher stars, build your DPS. Your two amplifiers, tingyun and bronya, both function more than well enough with low investment (+6 traces, with all of the ascension bonuses, +12 relics, level 70 ascended / level 70 lightcone). Your sustain doesn't need to be built at all after you start feeling good with survival.

@Millea314 OK tysm this will help a lot 🥰

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no?? but you lose the right to complain about the games difficulty

he still uses a skill point what are you on about?

@cinnamaricat No, he doesn't. He uses 15% hp. Learn to read.

Who uses Arlan???