Dude you blew my mind im ordering me a 2 Eqs i just pulled out ALL of my RF Amplifiers 14 in total with as of now 42 tweets mids center and larger midrange speakers and lastly subs . I drew all my wireing diagrams but now with the dual eqs back at it ... let me say i can't wipe the smile off my face knowing that I can use all my equipment. Thanks for your insight because I would have figured it out but glad you did for my sanity.
I split the Right and Left of the front and back EQ outputs going to my DSP inputs so that I can use the fader on the EQ as balance. Then I set up the eq on the DSP the way I want it with the analog EQ set at flat. And now I can use the analog EQ to fine tune how the DSP is set. AND I'm using using the EQ as my bassknob. Good stuff. Thanks for your help bro.
I commented on an other video can i run my rca cables from sub out on eq to my mono amp then the front and rear from eq to the dsp and not use the dsp for sub?
@@bbodish707 yeah, that's what I'm doing. My dsp is mostly for setting crossovers and matching the levels of my tweeters to my woofers. And then the eq retains all of its use of sub control, fade and volume.
@@moasto02 thats what i want the sub control cause i can now longer get the remote for the first version VIVseries amp i have. And i want the tweeters and midrange control separate.
Great video. I thought that I was doing something wrong by using those rca mono connectors. I thought that I had to buy a mixer or another mono converting electronic crossover.😂
I have this same dsp, thanks for uploading this video, because I was like dang I really don't want to keep going under my second row seat just to adjust my sounds.
Very good explanation!!! Couple of issues I'm having though with DSPs and Epicenters/bass processors. I have a Stetson Bluetooth processor that I'm considering installing before my preamps to clean up the sound from the head unit before any further amplification. I'll have 4 channels of selectable A, B and AB outputs (or combined as 2 since 1 output has to be split to connect an amp from one output. Meaning 1&2 would be a left and right if used straight). Using it this way I could tune channel 1 however I like and run it to the preamp let's say on the right input, #2 however would be on the left input both controlled by the preamp fader as a mids and highs preamp. Channels 3 and 4 would go to the inputs of the second preamp for midbass/midrange and bass. I think this would increase my tuning capabilities. I also think DSPs have the same features as Epicenters. Select the frequency in the parametric EQ (sweep), adjust it's Q (wide), boost or cut, adjust gain, etc. with tons of more tuning options. The preamps I use have subsonic filters from 30-300hz.
I like having both, only because I like having my EQ right by my middle console , controlling both the bass and volume right beside each other VERSUS using a bass knob and reaching for my radio volume knob. I’m weird like that. For me, nothing to do with gaining anything. Just like controlling everything off the EQ that’s closer to my hand by the way I drive. Bass, volume and can hit the AUX button on my EQ too in case i spot the police, the aux button turns its down very low, not mute, so all 3 together in quick reach
Look at like this you build a desk with your hammer saw Nails but when your finish doing that it looks out but if you sand it down and paint it it looks amazing soooo that is what the equalizer does give it that fine tuning that you need at the end
You should delete the equalizer it makes no logical sense to use both side by side as the DSP handles the Equalizer and other functions like time alignment and crossovers.
@@12voltfever yes, I have and it makes no sense to use an analog equalizer when the DSP does the same thing the analog equalizer does and much more. The DSP does equalization so why would it be needed to use an analog 7 band EQ?
Can you even try clean the low range from subwoofers then boost Mid range on that? It sounds like actually subwoofer is mid range speaker but more deep at this frequency
Question kinda stupid so I have 3 eqs 2 are the same as urs timpano. My question is would I really need to add my eqs to the dsp? My car sounds very well with just the dsp would I really benefit? Or is it just a slight perk?
I have a question about a 7 band equalizer and 1 four channel amplifier with the 7 band equalizer there’s just one main input is this for only 1 output for 2 speakers will the 1 main input will it work for 2 channel out put to run front and rear speaker on the 4 channel amplifier thank u
The main input works for the EQ getting signal. The output goes to your DSP or amplifier. There are 2 outputs on the EQ for either 2 amps or you can add more by splitting with RCA Y splitters.
First you showed us one splitter going to the left channels, and the other to the right channels on both eq's. Then you showed us one splitter for both left and right on each eq...sooo which way is it that you recommend?
@@12voltfever Oh ok, now I see what you did. You split the outputs from the deck, which some people wouldn't have to do if their headunits have front, and rear outputs, then you combined the outputs from the equalizers to create a mono signal for each input to the DSP. I also use multiple equalizer setups, and it really makes a big difference when you have two or more different speakers or components in your setup.
what would be the point of installing multiple eqs like this? Seems as though it would destroy any stereo imaging and eliminating balance and fade controls. It also seems redundant due to the presence of the DSP which contains equalizers for each channel
Can you bypass the lpf on the equalizer while using the sub out on it? Would be beneficial to tune the lpf on the amp because the eq only has two options, which is kinda limited
Only reason i would connect a separate eq to the dsp is for my personal manual control over the sound frequecies rather than messing with the already tuned dsp with the laptop everytime. Now my question is can i control the bass frequency with the eq connected to the dsp as well?
@@12voltfever ok. I have the dsp connected to Rockford 5 channel and not a separate bass amp. Is there any way to control front, rear, subs with only that 1 eq?
This is what I’ve been looking up for that past week. Thank you for the info🙏🏾. sucks that I can’t use the bass knob through the dsp. But what if I got a regular prv crossover would that allow me to use the bass knob and fader on the equalizer.
@@12voltfever wouldn't it work if you connect the sub rca out from the eq to one of the unputs of the dsp, and use it specifically for the bass channel, and the other input you use for the mids and highs, technically that would make you able to use the bass knob on the eq
Heyyy big fella I was just watching your video on the dsp or dap I’m trying to install mines which rca. Jacks do I used to make this work do I need splitters for my four channel to connect to my processor
Good video ok i have questions when tuning bass amp with a 7 band eq do you set sub volume half way like you do on a bass knob also the master volume does it need to be set all way up when tuning with a Dd 1 ??
Tim, so I can still control my subs with one of those 2 EQ by connecting the sub remote from the AMP to one of the two EQ correct? also, can I set the LPF on the Sub from the DSP though?
Question. I have that same timp preamp. Behind my pioneer deck had 3 pairs of audio RCA outputs.(Front L&R, Rear L&R and Sub L&R) the timp has only 1 main input. What should do/use. Im using all outputs from the timp to send to my individual amps btw.
Can i use 3 eqs if im using a dm 608 front doors rear doors and rear deck have thier own 4 channels with the medusa im short 2 channels can i use a rca box to add the last amp i intend to use a bass knob for bass no eq
I have a PRV SC-20FT Pro 2 Channel RCA cable and I also bought this DSP. Being that the DSP only has 2 inputs… which output on my head unit do I plug the RCAs into? Front, Rear or Sub out? Or do I need Y splitters? If so, how do you recommend I wire the head unit and DSP for optimal performance?
I actually just bought an eq. Would it be good to now that I'm adding this eq to my system, should I make all other features flat across the board? I have a new pioneer that has the app feature to access a 28 or 30 band eq along with a Cross over ETC, ETC, it's a sick head unit for sure. So with that said should I make the eq flat since I'm hooking this eq up. I'm just tired of having to go into the app to adjust ya know or make miner adjustments if needed!
Hello hope all is well wanted to know if I wanted to add rca bass knob and a rca knob to control the volume where would I put it in this tope of setup?
doesn't the dsp have a built in eq? mine does. It allows you to eq individual channels or link multiple channels together. Your set up doesn't make sense. You are just adding more distortion and phase shift by using the analog eq.
It may not make sense on the internet, but for overpowered competition systems it makes a lot of sense in the heat of battle when you need to boost or cut frequencies or lower/raise the signal on particular amplifiers on the fly. Not every system is 100% pure sound quality setup.
@@12voltfever what I'm saying is there is no need for a eq if your gonna run a dsp. It works backwards. The dsp corrects mistakes, adding a eq elongates the mistakes.
@@yeahright_ard if you knew how competition vehicles worked you would understand. When battling mids and highs systems you have a radio box OUTSIDE the car your buddy is watching your clip lights so you can turn up the mids more, boost frequency on your phenolic compression drivers to completely push every component to the limit. There is absolutely a need for it in these types of setups. Not everyone wants to "set it and forget it" for top quality sound.
@@eliezerbrito301 there is no need to add a crossover to the DSP as it has built in high pass and low pass crossovers for each output. However, some people prefer a traditional analog crossover on their bass so if you wanted to have one fed off the DSP just use 1 or 2 outputs on the DSP and connect to the input on the 3-way crossover. Just make sure the DSP crossover is set to 10hz-20000hz.
Yeah but then you only have control over the level and not the frequency. When talking pro audio subwoofers on extreme car audio applications, you want to be able to adjust the level but also the 50hz and 125hz.
No... Then you lose individual control. The point of using the EQ is to have each one controlling 1 output. Putting two of them together on one input is pointless.
This guy said you can install up to 8 equalizer if you do it this way which is backwards. I’m confused here. You think this is right? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gFeAxCCmaiQ.htmlsi=FEi38V40fqu-U63q
I will make a video testing both setups. I believe its better to have the EQ BEFORE the DSP. After the DSP, you no longer have limiter protections and you're overriding the crossover. Most dominicans and puerto ricans will not use limiters anyways.
*why on earth would you add an EQ to a dsp lmao.. the dsp IS AN EQ and so much more, that an EQ could never do for you. The DSP ought to have 32bands or so, the eq only has 7. The DSP can eq each speaker, time alignment..etc.. the EQ isn't going to do any of that lol. Old heads need to either just run an eq and stay in the 90s, or just run a dsp. You're wasting money, potential of your system and most importantly YOUR EARS.*
Not true. I have a ds18 pro eq and without a processor the signal isn’t clean enough even w an alpine head unit. Had to get a bass processor and a dsp, now it’s perfect
This is all redundant. Why do you this extra work for an eq that won't even be individual. Just get a dsp with proper software. Dayton DSP is cheap, jl twk is good, helix is the best route.
