Happy birthday Taryn! :D You both had some great points in the Jonas bro + Sophie discussion. I agree that it's important to realize celebrity couples are real people and also that society can be overly hasty to cancel folks for normal things. I feel for Shae's story. You both brought up well-thought ways of talking with friends. Thanks for another great podcast episode :)
Last night I dreamt the three of us were celebrating Taryn’s birthday in Greece and I think this is my subconscious wishing a happy birthday T and saying you should go to Greece.