this was actually super helpful for me. currently learning tanking, so hearing about sword and shield vs two-handing, as well as thunderclap vs shouts was really useful.
@@uverpro3598came here because i got hard flamed by a guy in my group. Its fun to learn stuff but not fun when the 20 year veteran flames you for 40mins straight
Just read the WoWhead strategy guide for the dungeon you're about to tank. Otherwise, if you still feel uncomfortable you could run it as a DPS to get a better feel for what you should be doing.
When you put charge and the switch to def-stance in a macro, you can get the rage from charging into def-stance without tactical-mastery. Also it's very weird to me how so many tanking-guides don't even mention taunt. Taunt has a lot of potential when used correctly and can be next to useless when used incorrectly. So a brief mention of how it works would be nice. It has 2 effects. One is to force a mob to attack you for a few seconds but the other is: It copies the threat of whoever has aggro before. So you can generate a ton of threat on a mob all at once the bigger the discrepancy was. I'd also highly recommend using an add-on like threat-plates. You can configure it to show your aggro-percentage on a mob. This is very helpful for knowing what to taunt and also for conserving rage for the next pull. So you taunt the one where your threat is the lowest and don't waste rage on this mob before taunting since you'll bridge the discrepancy anyways. Also discouraging the use of a shield is not something I'm a fan of. When you don't use it, you are just someone who keeps threat. Part of tanking is also to mitigate damage. It's okay when you are overleveled and on most trash. As long as the healer doesn't need mana-breaks. But especially for HC, I'd rather have more mitigation on the tank.
@@TheScrantonStrangler. Yes, exactly. And using this mechanic in your favor can make a huge difference between a good and a bad tank. Taunt can be next to useless or extremely efficient depending on how much threat someone else generated on the mob you're taunting.
I tanked my first dungeon as a prot war yesterday. It was DM and I HATED it. Could not generate rage and could not keep threat. This video made me understand why. I will now make another try. Thank you so much!
I love your responses to the comments. A true pioneer and not afraid to do what is best for you, instead of being a robot who needs to be told what to do and how to do it by other robots. What a legend
Really great video, super simplistic and easy to understand. I would love to see a tank progression guide from you slowly adding in more instruction! Really helped me, thank you.
Two stacks of sunder armor or one revenge is the best way to aggro. Can switch to battle stance and hamstring to kite mobs while the team finishes them and you run to the next pack. Or piercing howl. This made warrior tanking the most fun for me.
why are people hating on tanking with a staff? crescent is a big upgrade for 2h dps at that level... more damage = more threat. i appreciate all of the tank videos frenzi, im currently learning and a lot of your stuff has helped me. excited for the SoD content.
To be honest i figured on my own that 2 handed tanking works amazing, i still swap ( with macro ) between 2 handed and 1 handed with shield for intrerupts and heavy dmg fights, but rarely. Still amazes me how many low level warriors just do it with shield and they dont understand why they cand hold agro. Every dungeon i do as a healer i tell the warrs to just tank as 2 handed in def stance spamming sunder
Couldn't figure out how to tank in vanilla, and just wasted everyones time. Sort of stopped playing in groups at all around that time and solo'd every game since
Thanks for the content its all very useful to me! I tanked in ffxiv but am struggling in low level dungeons in wow sod. You've covered how to hold threat really well but why am i at the bottom of rhe dps chart? Can you do one on warrior dps, especially confused since i barely have any aoe abilities
Appreciate all the love on my tanking videos and all my others ones! Must be great videos if people’s only complaint/cry is nameplates even though I recommend them to players every single video ❤️
I’m not so sure about this video. I was tanking with sword and shield at low level and still holding threat while spec into protection, and I get nothing but compliments.
Not sure why he deleted his comments and/or blocked me. Feel free to spam your shouts with any leftover rage you have after your sunders. Thanks for watching!
@@drago7147to actually answer your question, yes there is a point and the latter portion of that instance is probably it. Ulda is the point in the leveling process where the dungeons shift from "I can steam roll this with a DPS spec healer and some common sense" to "ok time to start thinking a little bit more about specific situations." You don't need to camp the shield all the time, but you should be prepared to swap to it. Specifically on the big trog packs towards the end of the dungeon. They hit really hard. Just use your head. Tanking in classic requires situational awareness and there's no cookie cutter way to get the job done. Every group will be different. Sometimes you have a DPS specced healer and slow dps and I'll notice your healer getting stat checked. What do you do when a 5 mob pack is smacking you hard, is barely half dead and your healer is basically oom? Just analyze the situation!
Just ran wailing caverns on my lvl 20 prot warrior. Ur not kidding. I’m using a sword and a shield 😂 no dps was waiting for me 😂 gonna switch to arms and tank lol
man you're a lifesaver. most of the other "guides" gave horrible advice. whats your take on heroic strike? dump it completely and just sunder/auto attack, cleave (+overpower) everything?
@@frenziiii You just do it in a very understandable way. There are either compact guides that talk bs or 100 pages of theorycraft that resemble a doctoral thesis. I have a question. I'm currently level 24, what would be the best order to pull mob packs in dungeons? Charge->both Shouts (demo/battle)->Sunder every mob -> cleave? So no clap at all? Would be great if you could help a noob out :)
@@AirPodprosgen2 when pulling? Depends. If you have a pack of casters you want to range pull and line of sight them into you. If you need rage charge in there
If I had a dollar every time someone said this. Name plates doesn’t make a tank. I ALWAYS recommend players to use them, I don’t. If you need them for a crutch by all means go for it. Thanks for watching.
@@arugula4750 must have been some bad experiences then my friend. Check threat tables, thunderclap is an awful ability outside of the attack speed reduction for end game bosses.
Imagining knit-picking so bad, looking for any reason to be negative over a bind I don’t touch. Crescent staff at that level is BiS for 2H damage. Thanks for watching!
Binding auto attack is really important at low levels especially. Only alternative is a macro, as switching targets can cause weird things to happen. Not as big a deal when you are a dps, because you don't risk losing threat. At higher levels, you don't need it because you have plenty of other buttons to start your attack on a mob after switching. I suppose you could just spam right click on the mob and hope for the best instead, though. Also tanking with a staff makes a lot of sense. Certain staves during the leveling process have the highest weapon dps, more so than axe/swords/maces. On top of that, a two hander is typically more viable than dual wield while leveling because you wont have the +hit/+crit needed to land your hits. Really just showed you don't know much about the topic.
You cannot charge in defensive without the warbringer rune in season of discovery. You cannot in Classic. Battle stance for Thunderclap. Thanks for watching.
