How to Fix a Common YZ85 Kickstarter Issue 

Yeah I thought the same but I just ended up bump starting it

I try to be as thorough as I can ;)

Glad I could help

Lmao 😂 I had the same exact problem with the kickstarter spring positioning

Glad it helped

Awesome !

Thanks for watching!

Great! Glad it helped.

Thanks, glad to be help !

glad it helped!

Tossed it out, doesnt belong in there. I guessed someone put it in there in an ill fated attempt to fix the kickstarter previously.

Awesome!

glad it helped!

You're not wrong. I've filed many of them but this was borderline so I let it go. After a year of use the clutch works fine, no creeping feeling that you get when the basket is really bad so I got lucky on this one.

@@SchnebsGarage nice! Well thanks for the great video. Ill be doing this to my steel frame yz250 this weekend

Honestly I dont know offhand, sorry.

Your not wrong Daniel, I've done several of these over the years and it seems about 50/50 that there is a washer there. You're probably fine to go ahead without if yours didnt have one originally.

Odd, sometimes folks assemble them wrong, there should be no washer/spacer between the gear and the case, if there is remove it and try putting the clip on. Other than that I'm at a loss.

Thats certainly a possibility. Never happened to me personally but ya never know.

@@SchnebsGaragethank you i fixed it

@@hardendurobosnia17 awesome !

Not familiar with the Aprilia kickstart but they're all basically the same concept. Those clips often fall off and can be a real easy fix in most cases.

@@SchnebsGarage ...looks as if it was a spring that had come off and prevented the engagement... funny enough it engaged when tilting the bike just as in your case

@@stefanthynelius1250 I guess the torsion spring? That is an odd one, they usually don't just come off on their own unless something broke. Well least ya got it fixed!!

First thing ..stop trying to start it or kick it. You're only doing more damage and costing yourself more $. A rattle in the engine is never a good sign, its not something easy to diagnose based on your info, but safe bet its not going to go away on its own. If youre handy take the top end and right side off the engine, most often rattles are something thats obvious once you get them apart. Could be major or it could be as simple as a broken spring. Good luck with it !!

Can you push start the bike? Or at least see if the engine turns over that way. 250's a bit harder but if you need to take out the spark plug and bump start it just to make sure the engine can turn over freely. If not you got yourself an engine rebuild to do. Don't force things that are stuck, never ends well, you'll usually just damage more than what originally needed fixing. Good luck, let us know how it turns out.

Thanks for the quick reply!! I’ll try to bump start and push start when the weather clears up I got the bike for $400 so I don’t mind a rebuild, I’ll keep you updated on the situation thanks

7-12 lb/ft. for almost everything case wise.

That gear sliding around could end up damaging the teeth of itself and the main drive gear on the clutch housing. Of course since it freewheels most of the time it will probably be something that happens over time as opposed to a big pop and broken teeth everywhere... hopefully.

No, the final drive is the crankshaft so if you have the spark plug in it or the transmission in gear it wont spin freely...at least not without some force.

Sounds about right, I'm sure its a metric if youre being picky but 7/16" should do it just fine.

Possible someone put in the wrong washer at some point (they got lost easy) the right one is really thin.

going to try this tomorrow

@@yzinger9878 Good luck!

@@SchnebsGarage Thanks!

@@SchnebsGarage got it fixed up!

@@yzinger9878 Great stuff!

my pleasure, thanks fer watchin.

Glad to help

Is the groove on the shaft damaged or clogged with debris? There normally shouldnt be a whole lot of pressure on that clip that would cause it to come off so I'd look at something in that area.

E Stacks you may have have the clip to far open, and you need to have two washer ,one the endside,and outside.

Its called CIRCLIP Part #99009-12400-00.

Its a big list of possible issues. Start with the easy ones, spark plug (BR10EG most likely). Check for good blue spark, weak spark could indicate a bad ignition coil, pickup or CDI box. Carb cleaining is always an issue, even a slightly dirty carb will give you a world of issues at various throttle positions. Throttle cable, are you even getting full throttle? I've had ones where the spring was binding in the carb and was only getting 2/3 throttle.

Schneb Hi I give it full throttle on it but it just doesn’t go anywhere(not fast) it might be like you said the spark plug because the one I had we bent the tip back and put it back in after cleaning it with a wire brush that might be the problem I don’t know carb clean may be the problem but it idols for a long time so I don’t know about that

@@thisminecraft7218 carb has several different jets in it, there's a jet just for idling and another main jet for when youre on throttle. Also there's a metering rod that works with the jet to meter the amount of fuel that can be adjusted. Also float level can be adjusted to richen or lean the fuel mixture. Its something that can drastically affect performance if not done right.

Close, but its not the head seals (no gasket on yz's its 2 rubber O rings). In this case it was the water pump shaft itself. It rusted and had some pits in it that wear on the rubber seals. Thanks for the comment.

If your using an impact usually just that will break it loose but sometimes it can be a pain. Propane torch for 20 or so seconds should help, heat that nut up. That nut was probably put on with threadlock and heat will break it up almost every time. If for some strange reason that doesnt work, just jam a soft piece of steel (aluminum etc.) into the large gear where it runs on the crankshaft drive gear. It won't hurt the gear teeth as they're hardened steel but honestly, heat is your ally here.

@@SchnebsGarage Thanks, I'll try that. The kickstarter wasn't engaging, and the gear that it goes into had lost the locknut, and some teeth are broken off on it !!! Same as what happened to you. Except for a few broken teeth on that gear

technically the right side cover gasket, but if you can remove it without tearing it you can get away with a light film of rtv silicone normally.

@@SchnebsGarage thank you soo much for the great video and quick response

@@ericgholson7140 No Problem at all...good luck with the fix.

liar !

You are very welcome ;)

Kick it until it gets hard then pull out the spark plug, is it excessively wet? What it sounds like is its getting way too much fuel and flooding. Air can be compressed but liquids cant thus explaining the engine getting harder to kick. If it is getting too much fuel than you need to take a deeper look at that carb.

Also check your exhaust, sometimes the packing in the silencer comes loose when the baffled tube rots out and plugs it. I've also seen mice make some nice homes out of an exhaust.

@@SchnebsGarage thank you appreciate your response and yes when took out sparkplug it was full of oil

@@SchnebsGarage Thank you again!! Took top head off and had bad gasket seals

@@carloscervantes618 yea that'll do it, definately sounded more like liquid (of some kind) in the combustion chamber.

99009-12400-00 is the part number. But any auto parts or hardware store should have ones that will work.

Just about any hardware store, auto parts or of course good ole amazon would have them in various sizes.

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One of the great mysterious of mankind.

It's a standard parts store item, so Napa, Oriellys etc.... hardware stores may carry them as well.

Most common problem would be the clip is stretched. Try a new one they're dirt cheap. If that isnt the problem then maybe there's something wrong with the groove on the shaft, make sure its clean of dirt and not damaged, you should be able to clean it fairly easily and remove and burrs.

Thx it has s ding on it so I will try to fix thx man

Unfortunately I don't recall the size exactly, it was around 3/8 or 7/16".

@@SchnebsGarage ok thank you

@@SchnebsGarage hey just got the clip and fixed it thank you for the help :) i would’ve fuked up something without you

@@calebdrake9953 Hey thats awesome, glad to hear it worked out!

You're talking about the ball that goes in the shaft on the clutch I assume? It usually stays in the shaft due to oil. Sometimes, rarely it'll roll out or stick on the end of the clutch rod.

So what should I do to try get it out maybe a long magnetic screwdriver?

@@daniellacooke8285 Have you tried leaning the bike over to the right all the way, should roll out, worst case tap the shaft with it leaned over. I'm wondering why you need to get the ball out, if its in there you can just leave it as there's no real need to pull it out unless there's a problem with it which isnt something that malfunctions often.

My problem is I put the ball in before the bars so the right way is bar ball bar but stupid me put the ball then both the bars

I’ve tried leaning it to the side but didn’t come out

You need a titanium clip

What is wrong with it?

Schneb I don’t know where to get like the shifter shaft a peace broke off and idk what’s it’s called or anything

@@kaydenstephan6799 www.yamahapartshouse.com/oemparts/a/yam/57a89f7f87a866123c808cea/shift-shaft

This pic might help, shows all the springs, clips etc on the shift shaft.

Schneb I have a question and idk how to explain it I have pic like idk if the clutch basket is supposed to move like idk how explain it so do you have like somewhere I can contact you so I can send a video of what’s wrong or pic?

Hi Justin, here's the part and part number. CIRCLIP - 93440-15012-00 I used Parzilla current price is $2.47 (www.partzilla.com/catalog/yamaha/motorcycle/2000/yz125-yz125m1/starter). You can google that part number and find dozens of places. Its not anything special in fact most auto parts stores would probably have them in stock.

Schneb im buying a cr80 from someone and the bike he told me the kickstart won’t go down. Would you say it’s the same problem, and just missing the clip?

kickstart won't go down...No most likely not the same issue. Make sure that engine is not seized, bump start it if you can.

Schneb hey I ordered this part but it seems to big for the shaft

Lol if that's your takeaway from the video sure..

Hi Nick, I'm not familiar with a KX60, dont recall ever working on one of them exactly but the problem is not that uncommon in other bikes and is most likely a broken spring on the kickstarter. You will have to drain the oil out of the transmission and pull the side cover to have a look. Good luck !

@@SchnebsGarage I'm going to see if f the clutch side rotates too and spin the back wheel too see if it all spinning as well. Check out my vid. I'll post another one when I get back home.

Yes ;)

How?!?! That’s amazing

@@calebdrake9953 Sort of a snap motion rather than just a pull. I may be old but a lifetime of workin with my hands I'm kinda strong I guess.

@@SchnebsGarage my admiration for you