Lol, the plugin is fine, but it is still a bit reducer or bit crusher, it is good to have something like that, because today's DAWs do not allow your sound card to reduce bit frequencies to a certain point. I have a real S950 with a floppy disk drive, and a 100MB ZIP/JAZ, that's really a lot of space for 12-bit mono 48khz percussion hits, the trick of using 33 to 45 rpm disks was a great trick, it makes complete instrumentals to put on a 1.44mb floppy disk, they never sampled in stereo because it took up twice as much and that could cause problems. In the old versions of the most famous DAWs, the configuration allowed recording below 16 bits 48khz, and I remember that with Cubase SX I could record external audio at 14 bits mono/stereo with 32khz, if the sound is dark and turned off, but the details are not degraded, they remain in a less bright sound, as if someone had turned off the equalizer, but the sound began to crackle when you went to 6 bits. With 8 bits we could record well-audible sound without crackles. Another alternative for Mac users is Player Pro, a powerful tracker for composing only with samples and with an audio editor that allows you to manipulate everything and digitize audio at 12 bit 48khz or less. can degrade an audio jack up to 4 bits. ¨Milky Tracker¨ also works and is great. I use protools free 3.4 for an ibook G4 with mac os9.2 and I really love it because I can use many bit-based audio configurations, without a doubt another very powerful thing to make audio edits for that 90s sound, Pro Tools Free It does not need ilock, it works with any Mac computer, and can be used as 8 audio tracks or 16 mono, it also has its typical digirack plugins although they are the basic ones. There are abandoned things that can be so great that no one values them anymore, but I'm happy about that because with 80 dollars I can get a high-end Mac G4 and do many things with it that people try to emulate. But having a complete protoosl 5 with sample cell is a totally unknown world for any generation Z millennial. I'm glad you come back to these tips again and thank you for this interesting video.
I use the Inphonic RX1200 vst for making beats and I'm blown away by how good it is. When you speed the sample up and then PITCH it down, it adds those iconic SP1200 artifacts. Highly recommended!
A sound can't be iconic. Only imagery is iconic - i.e., a person or thing whose Image is famous. Just as flavors, scents, sensations, ideas, emotions, etc., cannot be iconic, niether can sounds.
I like all your videos but I love this one! I am not in rap at all but I love your final track! As a former synth demonstrator/salesman, I can say you sold this plug-in like a pro! Thank you and bravo for this good and enjoyable demo 🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏👍👍
Air Flavor Pro for the MPC One/Live/X series has a beautiful emulator for the SP1200. Amazing distortion and saturation. Great vid, too, brother! Keep up the great work!
The best thing about the sp1200 is the sequencer and the ability to decay the drums in multi level, you cant do this in any other drum machine in the same way…FAX
Unfortunately that Plugin only gets 1/2 of the SP1200 sound, the software side. All your samples here still do NOT have the SP1200 flavor... if you had one or an S2400 you would know it.
Good video. However, nothing sounds like an SP1200. How can you criticize the “workflow” if u don’t have one. Have you ever had the chance to physically use one, or even seen one IRL?
I hadn't seen this one before, sounds really good. I use chipcrusher by plogue, it has a nice a SP model as well as a bunch of other models. I love the channel, I'm always excited to see when you drop a new video ❤
that's so interesting that there was research on how the SP achieved those sounds and that people were able to recreate it. I wonder if there's research on other pieces of famous sampleware, like the sp303 or MPC that people have begun to emulate.
I don't know about SPs, but for MPC, Akai is actually replicating themselves within their free MPC Beats software, only you need to migrate everything into using that daw 😅 Edit: for SPs, Roland is doing the same thing with Zenology FX plugin, not free and subscription needed :(
@@playpm thank you for the response! one more question, since i got you here: i've been trying to find a good way to do DJ scratching via software but can't seem to find a good plug in to emulate it well. I started trying to look into certain small scratching equipment, like the ones that Teenage Engineering came out with but they were too expensive for me. do you have any recommendations?
I actually have a plan to make one, but I haven't started the research on DJ scratching nuances. So before my solution, you can totally try Mixxx, which is a free professional dj software, will be powerful enough for you to make some scratching noises.
As an owner of the grey SP i can say for sure it’s absolutely not sounding like the original. Sounds like a bitcrusher, nothing more. You don’t have to pitch drums on the SP and most of the iconic users didn’t do this in the 90s. Listen to ACQ, Beastie Boys, Pete Rock…. There is not much ringing noise going on, has more to do with the 12bit DAC. This thing knocks really hard when you sample. Is it worth the cash? Not sure. ;d. But nevertheless nice video. Best
Thanks for sharing, I think we should compare the same source with different methods then record them all then compare to tell the difference, would you like to take some time and go through this with me? I'm really curious about this too.
@@playpm Don´t waste your time. You simply can't fake a 12bit Sampler. Same thing with the S900/950, 12bit Rolands, Emax, SCS 440.... These Samplers can sound very clean but they have THAT punch. These artifacts ring noise sounds when pitched down are only a very small part of that sound. Best
Yes when it comes down to it, the extra thousands $ spent on owning particular pieces of esteemed gear isn't at all about making music - its just about the idea of collecting electronic music instrument history. It's alluring to the music-maker, yes, and contributes to major GAS, but as you point out its downright silly to think that spending thousands to get the machine which fueled hits 20-30 years ago would be a good workflow today.
Amazing content man. Glad to have found you. I hereby challenge owners of the original Sp1200 to make a better beat and they would have to explain in the rhymes why the hardware sounds „better" and at the same time not feel silly while insisting on it :-)
Back in the 90s you needed hardware cause computers were very very limited back then. The latency was so bad this is how fruity loops took off, their design helped reduce the latency issue via step sequencing rather than the kind of realtime sequencing you can easily do today even on a pre-paid cellphone
Nice job as usual. Love the rap! I’ll have to check out the SP950. Next, we need some urgent GAS therapy for the new woovebox, which looks/sounds pretty great.
This is definitely a great plugin. I've had the demo on my system for a while now... personally I prefer Inphonik's products as you can create your own kits, do the tuning and EQ thing, etc. It's also very well priced.
@@playpm I think it focuses on both, but you might be right in that the SP950 plugin does focus more on emulating the sound of not only the SP1200 but also the S950.
To be fair it's a project by the co-founder of E-MU who also designed (co-designed?) the SP range. He's having them handmade in the US using almost all original parts except for some minor, modern updates to the PCB that don't effect sound. There's a bunch of QoL updates to the machine, it has double the sampling time, and it's fully backward compatible with original SP12/1200 files. It's a boutique 1:1 sounding remake by the original designer with tons of upgrades that are impossible or costly on an original unit. $4k is expensive (I could never afford it) but it's such a niche thing for an audience that already owned or wanted to own a sampler that sells used for that amount or more. The Rossum website goes through the build and components and it's an interesting read. I look at this project like more of a faithful recreation for really devoted fans vs a cash grab. It's expensive but that's to be expected in a 'no corners cut' project like this and from everything I've read it delivers on it what it promises.
I was interested and adamant on getting a S2400 by ISLA Instruments. However for now I'm opting for TAL-Sampler. I already have this SP950 plugin. Its good, but the TAL-Sampler has a few extra work flow features I want for making DnB, etc.
@@cnnxcore Thanks for the additional information. It is a good point that niche audiences that love this type of gear may look at 4k as not a terrible price to pay. Side note: I wish I knew more about electronics. Circuit design looks like a great thing to know, but sadly I've already got way too many projects that I probably won't finish. lol
Thanks for adding up, I've been gassing around on it for a long long time, but I can never afford the cost for purchasing it 😂 (money, space, relationship)
Wow, so you’re telling me in 2023 there are vst’s and other software that replicates and hardware while adding convenience? WOW thanks man, such valuable information, nobody knows that !
Actually you need to pay a little bit to use vcvrack as a plugin in daw, even with free Cardinal you still need to put time and learn. The core value of certain plugin is saving time and effort imo, plug and go, super efficient.
