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How to Get Started as Zheng Jiang | Early Game Legendary Difficulty Playbook Patch 1.7.1 

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New and updated Early Game Legendary Difficulty Playbook to help you get started as Zheng Jiang in the 190 Rise of the Warlord start for Total War: Three Kingdoms.
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@tadbitr2045
@tadbitr2045 3 года назад
Ah, I remember the head scratching moments when I was trying to figure her faction out. Definitely the hardest start, but when you finally get the first tribute she snowballs the biggest.
@FlorianBased
@FlorianBased Год назад
I followed this guide and although it was my first Legendary/Legendary campaign (only played hard/hard before) somehow in ended up with a very nice North West base and had like 30k tribute per turn since most smaller Factions were super afraid of me and the big ones took just a few crushing defeats to convince. After that (because you never build tall) I didn't know what to do with all my cash and started instant construction to a good build on every new town. By turn 150 when i conquered all of China i had 15 Million Coins. So yeah one of the coolest Factions if you want to Focus on Battles
@chordal9939
@chordal9939 3 года назад
Ah yes, the notoriously most difficult faction in the early game, and personally, my favourite to play. Migration is definitely a good tactic with this faction
@destroyer2496
@destroyer2496 11 месяцев назад
To keep loot low from the beginning you could split then re-merge the 2 armies to get that hefty unit transfer "penalty"
@Farron1
@Farron1 3 года назад
Nice, just finished a Zheng Jiang campaign myself but was still curious just to see some potential strategies for future Zheng Jiang Campaigns
@ianforbescitra210
@ianforbescitra210 3 года назад
I think you should keep yinli at least.. he’s affordable once you slide the tax slider all the way left (yes you can do this from turn one). Lend him red sisters to make him unbeatable in duels with his starting tenacity of steel, and give him terror skill using early blood dragon which combos well with scare (I think he even comes with a feared trait). Before long, he’ll also have poison volley! He will be quite the mini lu bu.
@Sonickk
@Sonickk Месяц назад
Lubu with a full stack. Always waiting for me
@CyrusVorazan
@CyrusVorazan 3 года назад
From the moment you said "we're going to migrate to the west" I was wondering "what about the looters though". Cool that you covered them as well. Such raids are probably one of the worst additions to the game. I've played Zheng Jiang myself and didn't try to migrate, instead I focused on getting a high-experience army with high-experience generals by fighting difficult battles against Dong Zhuo (Lu Bu basically beelined towards me from the start for some reason) and other neighbors, which allowed me to get some fat tributaries and a good army early on. This involved quite a bit of tactical cheese, so your way definitely sounds much easier than facing everyone head-on :)
@starhalv2427
@starhalv2427 8 месяцев назад
From experience, Zhang Yan is usually completely beaten by Gongsun so rather than worrying about him, you should just prepare for an inevitable arrival of a new threat
@bw1678
@bw1678 3 года назад
I used to love playing as bandits before Fates Divided. But the absence of Faction Council - mainly, the inability to reset a general's skill tree - is such a huge turn-off. Some generals tend to always end up with shitty trees. Like Lu Bu usually misses out on the Vanguard tree's speed and charge boosts, so even with the Legendary Red Hare, he could be slower than other generals with common horses.
@SiodogRehane
@SiodogRehane 3 года назад
mod it, here ez steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2459863089
@kanetsugu100
@kanetsugu100 3 года назад
the fact tha you can almost have 50% replenishment in just a few turns is crazy i think i will try out but with yan baihu since he is my favorite
@stalkob6649
@stalkob6649 3 года назад
You can definitely beat up the Dong in the early game once you arrive into Shuofang. Just save up as much money as possible, colonize the provinces, but prioritize the early army a bit more than the Town itself, only invest in the counties. I beat up a Lu Bu full stack with the use of the garrison, full stack in ambush, and three generals in the county as bait with patience. Really doable but looks very daunting seeing Lu Bu march at you.
@Gergeshwan
@Gergeshwan 3 года назад
You can actually pay factions in the demand tribute with either food or a mercenary contract (but not both, UI kept blocking the other). That really helped the snowballing in my 1.7.1 campaign, factions with -8 acceptance for tribute could just get a 20 food dump from the huge bandit surplus. Probably an oversight, but it's never getting patched now... Also, I'm a big fan of rushing Chang'an with Zheng Jiang to get the emperor in the 190 start. The Han vassal is worth ~4k income with her tributary boosts, which is a huge deal if you get it somewhere in the turn 8-10 range. You'll probably have to beat Lu Bu's army, but Zheng Jiang can outduel him with help (for me it was Mending + Wisdom of the River + Chen Gong). People have said the emperor leaves immediately for the bandits but he never did for me. Not sure what's going on with that one, maybe he needs to come of age first?
@LSPI
@LSPI 3 года назад
46:50 lmao i think the game was counting your garrison units as well
@SiodogRehane
@SiodogRehane 3 года назад
You always aim for the desert while I always aim for the opposite corner, getting zhang yan is super easy latest patches
@DarkWolper
@DarkWolper Год назад
Thats aYou have great guides on your channel and it's really helpfull that you explain the little mechanics with them aswell. It never came to my tought to just bannish these terrible start characters :D
@nullpo2478
@nullpo2478 3 года назад
Looters actually can spawn at wuwei too if you take it and they raze my city a few times just because i forget to place army on my low lvl city there
@Ashe_Tracks
@Ashe_Tracks Год назад
I have 400 hours in this game and I never realized you could rush construction... oh boy,..
@isabelcopeman5325
@isabelcopeman5325 3 года назад
I’ve Ben waiting for this one :)
@joetaylor7917
@joetaylor7917 2 года назад
Funnily enough if not playing Liu Bei, Dilu is also in the animal tamer pool.
@LandofMert76
@LandofMert76 3 года назад
is 194 the Lu Bu start? She was pretty tough to get going at that start when we tried. We find the loot/ movement connection is super punishing for Bandits. Almost to the point that it makes them unplayable.
@XxFohenxX
@XxFohenxX Год назад
Sorry if my english is not the great this is not my native language. Today i just star Zheng Jiang campagne in normal + timeless mode (i'm not quite experiment and want to keep my general and not worry with age is much for fun). Everything is going almost what happen in the video. I got Yu Jin and Chen Gong in my run not bad for the start. During Turn 10 (summer 192) i look for spy to see if their a new turncoat and see a offcer cost 3000 gold and 0 upkeep with the name of Zhang Jinglan, this the wife of Zhang Yan. So in a new save i try something. I engage Zhang Jinglan and gain enough points to extract her and continue the guide. During Turn 12 (autumn 192) Zhang Jinglan return in the court and she still marry with Zhang Yan. I divorce her and now Zhang Yan is single now and i try the same thing to the guide of Zhang Yan and try to unify the faction throught marriage. And is the same thing in the guide of Zhang Yan, I need to use the option Issue Ultimatum (because i can't get positive value), but before that I promise him a lot money per turn and get all is money he have in his possession (the turncoat + the divorce cost 4000 so try to regain some money), and that work. I got all is land, army and the genral want to be recruited in the Zhang Yan faction is now in my pool (i got Ji Ling in my recruitment poll and i didn't have it before the marriage). The mission to detroye Zhang Yan it's validated and iI got the next mission to detroye Yuan Shao. I don't know if i want to keep the land and with the east side with a loot of ennemis or sell or lose the land and focus the west side with less faction. This a other way to try to get Zhang Yan in you campagne (maybe that work in the same way for Zhang Yan campagain if you can get Zheng Jiang usband at turncoat). Thank for the guide Serious Trivia.
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia Год назад
keep the land! seems like you are already having a great start! I think you should definitely take the fight to Yuan Shao. There might be one or two tough fights, but after you survive those, it would set you up for a easy victory down the line. Delaying the war with Yuan Shao will only allow the AI to get stronger and recruit better units. Bandits don't get good units in the mid game so I think the earlier you can deal with him the better.
@DigiDestinedPichu
@DigiDestinedPichu 3 года назад
Just letting you know, you may want to show in the Yan Baihu video that the bottom left of the bandit network does give Nanman units now since the furious wilds DLC. I am pretty sure that is the only change that has happened to the Bandit network tech tree since it was released. Something sort of unrelated but did you know that Cheng Pu and Da Qiao (and I think Xiao Qiao) can access their top left skill without it being connected to already accessed skills? I think they are the only characters that have this happen with them.
@agtritan4940
@agtritan4940 3 года назад
Perfect timing! Starting my first legendary campaign with her today! Are you going to be doing these guides for the 190 starting date only or would you branch out to the other ones? (I've been playing a lot of the 182 starting date lol)
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
I will move onto the DLCs after the 190s are finished. the goal is to provide the most help to most people first
@partypanda4810
@partypanda4810 3 года назад
You probably just forgot but you can mess with the taxes from turn one to make more money with no downsides
@avidgamer_oo
@avidgamer_oo 4 месяца назад
Once you establish that one complete commanderie to the west, Lu Bu comes up from the south with a full contingent and wipes you out.
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 4 месяца назад
you can technically fight that army off with looping, but you want to do it without any looping, the move would be to just avoid that army and just let them take it while you go grab the other counties and then come back when they move out of the commandery afterwards.
@thekongqueror9788
@thekongqueror9788 Год назад
I learned so much from this video! 🎉
@maxvanriet1943
@maxvanriet1943 3 года назад
now i really want to see how you play a Zhen Jiang campaign.
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
I mean we have played her campaign pretty recently
@maxvanriet1943
@maxvanriet1943 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia welp completly missed that one. Im definitly going to watch that one
@aaeng7186
@aaeng7186 3 года назад
you actually can offer food 37:35
@JuveVinny
@JuveVinny 8 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for this guide. I followed it almost exactly and look forward to going from here. One question though, how do I heal Zheng Jiang?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 8 месяцев назад
She replenishes like any unit (you can also recall her and then redeploy her if she happens to not have any retinues for a quick one turn full heal)
@JuveVinny
@JuveVinny 8 месяцев назад
Yea I figured that out once I stopped attacking for a couple turns. lol @@SeriousTrivia
@TheConCarlos
@TheConCarlos 2 года назад
Somehow i fucking managed to do it your way, but without mercenary treaty, i got to the same treshhold as you -50 and it wont go down, so i recrtuted as many troops as i could, changed militarny adventage from -9,3 to -6,3, gave her tribute and putted intimidate as well. Belive or not, it fucking worked. Managed to marry her despite the -50 rock stone opinion.
@JuveVinny
@JuveVinny 8 месяцев назад
So I don't know what to do now. I secured Shuofang and upgraded it as you did (for the most part). I don't know where to go now. Dong Min is on my southern flank. He has a doom stack there commanded by Lu Bu himself. I sued for peace with him as I don't see how I can handle that if he chose to invade me. To the east is an abandoned farmland and a Han controlled fishing port. Should I expand there? Or do I need to sit tight and build an actual army?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 8 месяцев назад
if you already made peace with Dong Min, then your option would be to expand back towards the East (but not at the Han since they are a vassal of Dong Min and thus you would not be able to wage war on them). Take a few turns to get Shuofang up and running with good buildings. In the process, there is no need to have an army to save on upkeep and build yourself a good amount of cash. Try to pick up a few bandit characters that are sentinel class with poison volley ability and then once you are happy with Shuofang, pump all your savings into one full army with Zheng Jiang plus ideally one strategist for trebuchet and one sentinel with poison volley. Then use this army to start conquering land and making factions submit to you with tributes which is basically how Zheng Jiang plays.
@JuveVinny
@JuveVinny 8 месяцев назад
I made a save before doing the peace deal with Dong Min just in case. I can go back to that one. I just saw that lu Bu stack and panicked.@@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 8 месяцев назад
@JuveVinny it’s not too hard to defend using the towers in the city and that stack is usually not that aggressive. It would be fine to peace out a few turns and just build up a bit then return to war with them once you have a real army
@bz93sa52
@bz93sa52 Год назад
This strategy seems open/free None linear Are some factions more free to create than others? If so, what ones would you say are the most free to do what you want?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia Год назад
you can migrate as any faction. There isn't any faction that have to stay where they start
@bz93sa52
@bz93sa52 Год назад
@@SeriousTrivia well that opens the game up Abit doesn't it, is this still a game you play or are you done with it?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia Год назад
I still play it! there is a new let's play on Shamoke that will start next monday! and you can always check the community post for the weekly schedules and upcoming series etc
@jordanwebb1543
@jordanwebb1543 3 года назад
Hmm west huh? I don’t know that’s a lil too close to da Dong for me. I still try to attack Zhang Yan early then focus on Yuan Shao.
@alexpeers9863
@alexpeers9863 3 года назад
Really great ST. Thanks!
@catalinbostan3542
@catalinbostan3542 2 года назад
I really hate when you have to micro manage because the A.I of our generals got brain fried or w/e and decided to not pursue fleeing archers...
@krkrrkrkrk
@krkrrkrkrk 2 года назад
who is the jie ling or something, character that you mentioned around 36:00 ?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 2 года назад
Ji Ling who is the unique general that start with Yuan Shu in certain start dates and are free agents for others like this one
@Pupzeg_tw
@Pupzeg_tw 2 года назад
Cavalry is king - but Jiang herself (and sentinels/strategists) can get only light raider units. So we need more yellow/red generals? On one of my attempts, Lu Bu had Pingding the same turn I got Dacheng :-)
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 2 года назад
Hard to use cavalry with bandits. It’s usually just protector of Heaven spam late game
@Pupzeg_tw
@Pupzeg_tw 2 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia I'm just getting started with them bandits and legendary difficulty. Only a few attempts ended with a bunch of potential squabbling and dumb (literally, with traits) spies in the recruitment pool. But thank you for the fantastic work with guides/let's plays.
@jamolotl
@jamolotl 2 года назад
I got attacked by 2 stacks led by Lu Bu almost as soon as I'd taken Sheyang. Big oof. 🤭
@christiandauz3742
@christiandauz3742 2 года назад
Too bad she isn't playable in 182. That would be a much easier start.
@doomknight1896
@doomknight1896 3 года назад
What would be your ideal mid game army as Zheng Jiang? Before getting protector of heaven
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
the unique cavalry units that you unlock or you can get away with hidden axe spam too
@denbei5504
@denbei5504 4 месяца назад
Can u do one for the expanded map version? I play it in legendary and IDK what to do
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 4 месяца назад
Why not just stay and fight your way out of the starting region. All you need is to wait until your faction resource gives you unbreakable and the game is just over
@raynaldoandhika6836
@raynaldoandhika6836 Год назад
I'm in middle of my Zheng Jiang's Campaign, currently beating Dong Zhuo, Gongsun Zan, Liu Bei and Zhang Yan until they gave me tribute. Should i keep them as tribute state or conquer them once i got enough money? She's freaking snowball after i got so many tributes
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia Год назад
keep them alive for the tribute until you are bored with them
@raynaldoandhika6836
@raynaldoandhika6836 Год назад
@@SeriousTrivia Bandit with her pets, i like it
@nguyenngocphuongnam362
@nguyenngocphuongnam362 3 года назад
There is a huge drawback for all bandits i find on my gameplay. Bandits lack of high tier units and heavily depend on research to get good units until reaching king. Dealing with doomstacks of those big boy like Cao Cao, Yuan Shao is such a big challenge for bandit factions. Is there any method to overcome this?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
Spam protector of Heaven….
@ProjectDodds
@ProjectDodds 2 года назад
Anybody got any tips, I followed this step by step but on turn 14 lu bu turns up with a full stack 😂
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 2 года назад
kite him out in the settlement
@sorenvongruner2592
@sorenvongruner2592 3 года назад
Ma teng declared war on me after I forced him to tribute. And now he no longer pay. Is this a bug or did CA changed the mechanic?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
check your income tab, he should still be paying
@sorenvongruner2592
@sorenvongruner2592 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia he isn't I checked that
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
interesting, can you still demand tribute from him?
@sorenvongruner2592
@sorenvongruner2592 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia yes
@zorgamingzone8844
@zorgamingzone8844 3 года назад
Omg you can do clips in YT .
@Porcelainbowl
@Porcelainbowl 3 года назад
How the heck do you deal with lu bu when his angry face comes lumbering your way with a full stack?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
First he is not going to come any time soon. Second once you get Shuofang ready every single county gives you two stacks and you just build your army and beat him. With nearly 40% replenishment you can’t really lose
@Pupzeg_tw
@Pupzeg_tw 2 года назад
​@@SeriousTrivia BTW, as of now - two garrison stacks, one sentinel with four units, Zheng Jiang herself, and one strategist with six units. Most at 80% because Lu Bu came in early. He doesn't attack the towers, only starve out, and I had to come out. Lu Bu charges into the lines, and the whole army just runs five seconds later. I don't know how to beat that.
@Nightblade44
@Nightblade44 4 месяца назад
Did they change tribute to make it end when they go back to war?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 4 месяца назад
not for Zheng Jiang's mechanic
@Nightblade44
@Nightblade44 4 месяца назад
@@SeriousTrivia hmmm maybe a mod is messing with it. Because I lost tribute from dong min after he went back to war. I'll play with it. Thank you :)
@Audence
@Audence 2 года назад
Clicked on it fully expecting someone butchering all pronunciation lol
@Knishook
@Knishook Год назад
My strat is always marry lu bu
@thiagorocha6117
@thiagorocha6117 3 года назад
There is a mod that disable looters if anyone don't like them
@ИльяДеревянко-ъ3р
How to convert han provinces into dong zhuo?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia Год назад
You can’t? Like Dong Zhuo can annex them but you can’t just convert them
@ИльяДеревянко-ъ3р
@@SeriousTrivia same way as liu bei with army right click ?
@RoninWarriorSage
@RoninWarriorSage 3 года назад
Is marrying Zheng Jiang to Lu Bu simple and easy enough and/or is it worthwhile dealing with Dong Zhuo?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
thats not possible anymore since they removed Lu Bu from Dong Zhuo's family tree
@RoninWarriorSage
@RoninWarriorSage 3 года назад
Ah, that is most unfortunate. Thanks for the swift reply. Digging the videos. Quite helpful!
@TheConCarlos
@TheConCarlos 2 года назад
And btw, i still have to pay her tribute even if her faction doesnt exists, wtf ? Is it permament ?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 2 года назад
That is very weird
@TheConCarlos
@TheConCarlos 2 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia and this is scaling tribute, it grows and decreases between turns. In my paiments it is said that it goes to zheng jiang faction. But, but it dont exist anymore.. I dont know if crippling myself by not flat but scalling payment that goes to nowhere is worth her anymore…
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 2 года назад
Tribute is never flat. It is always a percentage of your income
@TheConCarlos
@TheConCarlos 2 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia i guess its a bug or devs secret revenge for trying to toy with exploits lmao
@TheConCarlos
@TheConCarlos 2 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia better fucking yet. I repeated diplomacy and guess what, no tribute, just marriage and intimidate. Guess what. It went through XDDDD
@brateslawe7420
@brateslawe7420 2 года назад
is it possible to become vassal to dong zhou and annex yan baihu by marriage? i believe he doesnt have a wife at the start
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 2 года назад
yes you can then gain vision of him and then declare yourself independent afterwards too as the increase vision will give you more mercenary contract options too
@brateslawe7420
@brateslawe7420 2 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia thats nice, since yan baihu starts near to a lot of rich commaderies
@blilajoao7936
@blilajoao7936 3 года назад
This thing doesnt work You will encounter lu bu on the next few turns and he will attack You need to spend a lot of things to make peace with dong min or loose everything This makes people unhappy and rebel agains you You cant do nothing
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
why can't you beat Lu Bu....
@blilajoao7936
@blilajoao7936 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia I mean, he has a full army and I just have zheng Jiang Maybe ur right but I'm not capable of winning in legendary mode xd
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
get the county upgraded so you have two stacks then give Zheng Jiang one full stack of like one hidden axe and some cavalry and I think you will be fine
@blilajoao7936
@blilajoao7936 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia Its impossible He comes with 2 generals and they all have full armys No way i win
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
@@blilajoao7936 are you open to using the encampment stance and the looping trick?
@5p00kh4rdc0r3
@5p00kh4rdc0r3 3 года назад
They raped her tech tree. Used to be my favourite faction by far. Now I dont play this piece of crap game anymore.
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