How to get the Guitar Tone - Post-Punk (80s Post Punk, Gothic Rock, Dark Wave, Cold Wave, etc...) 

Mannn, all the effects at once sound amazing. Would love to see more videos related to the genre! Great vid!

Thank you, I stole your chorus/flanger together idea to get the Deftones digital bath sound 🙂

For the first time, I found a clear explanation of how to get the post-punk sound without any "magic secrets". Very straight and didactic. Although I always have used those effects, I never tried the same order of them as you do (and voilà: the emblematic goth sound appeared). Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us. You helped me more than you might think. Cheers!

Very awesome explanation of the effects chain.

Great info! Thanks for this video!

I LOVED flander + delay and your passion for post punk atmospheric sound! the chorus is basically what around The Forest (by the Cure) has been build это подписка!

Thanks, I love post punk and I had the idea of the tone but you help me so much with some tips

Excellent walk through.

To sum up, Post-Punk is simply the best. 💁🏻‍♂️

Great video. I was thinking long time to make similar, but i found your and it is amazing. Great job. 🙂👍🏼

Thank you! It was very helpful.

I could learn many things thank you!

What a gem!

Great video. Keep em coming

Hey Yousif. Thanks for a clear and quick explanation to get a nice basic good tone. If you could do another video maybe on what type of modes or keys are used to write or play Postpunk that would be great. I'm more into Darkwave but they share some elements. You got a subscriber. I hope your channel grows quickly. Thanks again.

great content, thank you!

Yousif this was a nice video. Very nice

Many thanks for tthe video, I have a similar effects setup (except Boss Chorus and Line6 DL4 for analogue delay), I've experimented trying to get that classic Goth sound and your video helped with a lot heavy lifting, in order for my to achieve my own tweaks to the classic sound. Incidentially, while I love the Spellbound guitar tone, one of my favourites is 92 degrees played by John Valentine Carruthers. Thanks again Yousif.

cool video, and very informative 👍

Top Video. Thanks and greeting from germany

Thanks. I would have appreciated a more documented video with a little review of the gear used by the several post-punk bands with archive photos and maybe a classification of the most used effects in that music genre. A little analytical and historical work and trying to reproduce a few more specific track's guitar effects and licks. Feedback is always great to improve next videos 🙂

I love my tele too! Had the old guys at the local guitar shop set it up and they said it plays better than the American tele. It's a squier tele, nothing special, but it's special for real!

Great Video! The Tone explanations are great. If you would talk shortly also about some riff ideas it would be a perfect round up! Just as an idea for future videos.

This really great. I add a Dynacomp, which aside from the chorus I find to be the second most important part of this sound. Sounds become more compressed when they're further away, which is exactly what we want for that far away in space and time sound. I'd suggest the best all around amp is Fender black, or silver face, they're thin and sparkly and the mid scoop seems to suit the style. Failing that the next best choices are solid state transistor based amps from the late 70s, JC 120s, Peavys, Vox, Carlsbro and HH are all good choices. Speakers with a bit of an extended high-end and clarity are good, maybe JBLs, Fanes, G12H30 anything with a little bit of clarity. A lot of the amps mentioned had built-in reverb and chorus, and it's not unusual to see flangers and delays stacked on top of chorus, just like you've done. Choice of flanger is a little tricky, since the SAD1024 chip was discontinued it's been hard to find an analog flanger that can actually flange properly, although I've always thought Boss did a great job hacking the BF2 to sound almost as good with a much more limited chip. So the BF2 is good, also the MXR reissue tries very hard and I think is almost as good as the original. In vintage pedals, the MXR, the Carlsbro and the Electric Mistress is my favorite. The latter two a particularly good for metallic frozen flange sounds that you here in PiL and a lot of the more "Death Rock" British bands from the 80s whenever you hear a guitar that sounds like a piece of sheet metal. For rack effects, I like the Ibanez UE405, SPX90, Drawmer DS201, MR140 Spring, Effectron, tape delay, Midiverb I and 2. Delay is as important as reverb, and it's hard to beat a real tape. Also, don't underestimate acoustic guitars, a lot of the jangly numbers just have a bit of acoustic doubled underneath. Pads from a string machine are nice too. Consider building a plate reverb, it'll cost half as much as a Lexicon and you don't have to worry some unobtainium chip will blow up. The outboard gear that was used at live shows was better than you'd think as well. It wasn't unusual to have a Space Echo or two at the mixing desk, and later on cheap digital multi-effects like the SPX90 were everywhere, so some of the more successful bands were able to bring a fair bit of studio magic on the road. For dirt, it doesn't matter so much, but I like the SD-1, or the MXR Distortion Plus, maybe a Rat, although the Rat reminds me of the 90s too much these days. Those solid state amps of the 70s sounded pretty alright pushed into overdrive as well. I favor single coils as well, McGeoch's Yamaha had a coil-split, and I think for the most part you want something with a bit of shrillness to it, the Tele is a great choice. Like I said in the beginning, don't underestimate the power of compression. Magnetic tape adds a lot of compression that makes recordings sound sort of... old, sort of far away, just try recording yourself on a cassette, and even putting aside the wow and flutter there is something else about the compression that makes the recording sound like it's not "in the moment", almost like it was recorded in the past. Dynacomps are pretty good at capturing some of that far-away compression sound. Without any compression the whole thing just sort of sounds like real life, like it's happening right now in your boring old bedroom, it's not as transportative. Also, it helps with all the damn arpeggios.

My friend, the Root of the second chord of the Spellbound riff is C, and you are playing the open A string as root instead. Nothing wrong with that if that’s just how you like to play it. But it’s one of my all time fav riffs and changing that second chord root REALLY changes the feel, so I couldn’t help myself to point it out 😂 sorry. As for the tone, one thing I could add is that, on studio recordings (as opposed to live sound) the guitars would have much of the Low/Low-Mid either cut or rolled off significantly. That’s the main thing missing from this tone. Try EQ or HP filter, with cutoff set at like 350 hz. Then adjust to taste from there. This will get that spellbound tone closer to the authentic sound.

Thank you

This is so great! Do you know how I can get this sound with Guitar Rig 6 or 7 (by Native Instruments)? (Or Amplitube, or any VST)

For modern post-punk I prefer to stack overdrives. Currently I us a Klon clone into a MXR Timmy. Then a Boss Waza Chorus, Boss Flanger, and finally a Boss DD-500 delay that can do dual delays. For amps I use a Fender SuperReverb. Eventually, I will be using a King of Tone from Analogman to replace the stacked OD. I am very close to the end of the waiting list. Examples are on my channel.

Thx you for you vidéo, you have one of the best amp for clean “post punk” (cold wave or dark wave) sound just behind you: Roland Jazz Chorus 😊 it’s perfect with a reverb (strymon bigsky ie), analog delay with modulation capacity (anasound utopia ie) and a flanger/chorus (ehx electric mistress and clones ie), you could turn on the beautiful integrated chorus of the amp for more mod and with that rig you can reach the sound of 99% of “post punk” clean guitar sound 😊

I find the mxr carbon copy with internal trim pot for the modulation turned all way up is instant banshees

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didn't know Alphadestiny had a guitar channel

Would a squire fender work to achieve clean sound too? I’m a beginner. I’d appreciate your advice. 😊

A CE-2(W) and a RAT (+ a delay and chorus), a traditional Tele style guitar, and a VOX AC15C1 is all fairy affordable and will get you in the ballpark.

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a Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 401 amp will do the job? Or better spend more and get a AC30cc2? Or maybe other thing ...?

I dont know about that amp choice. Solid state was the norm for Cure and Joy Division. Mars used fenders. Also, considering the time, boss pedals were the go to for most. Honestly, if you are going today to go for late 70s / early 80s, give the boss katana a go and you can always put a boss pedal or all of them, in front of the katana.

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What is the difference between a pre amp and an amp

Best guitar tone? I stick in sound card and put Valhalla reverb

What are recommended amp EQ settings?

What tuning is use for postpunk? Also how much are the effects?

A lot of that sound is late 70s solid state amps like HH and roland

missing a compressor

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