How To Identify B Series Cable Transmissions Honda & Acura - 1990 EF Civic Si LSD Install

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Today I installed an S1 cable transmission along with an Action Clutch Kit onto my 1990 Civic Si. I also go over some of the differences on how to identify what separates the 88-91 from the 92-93 cable transmissions.
After I break in the clutch and get some time on the track with the new clutch/transmission combo I'll be back with an update video on how everything is feeling and performing.
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@TheActualCaveman 6 лет назад

Sounds to me like what happens with rwd with a welded diff. Maybe the lsd you have in that trans is binding a bit. If it's limiting the slip too much you'll get some shuddering. Does it seem like it's coming more from the outside wheel of the turn (drivers side for right turn). Does it do it if you're making a sharp turn with it in second gear?

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

It'll just shutter when I first drive the car after it's been sitting. I passed 160 miles 2 days ago and drained the fluid and added Pennzoil Synchomesh. After I did that the shutter was almost non-existent. I drove it for another 50 miles and it felt great. I'm going to go for a few more drives within the next few days and see how it feels. I haven't had any driveability issues after 220 miles so I'm hoping it's just fine.

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

And barely in 2nd gear. Within a couple miles of driving it, I don't notice anything in 2nd gear.

@TheActualCaveman 6 лет назад

Sounds like it was just sticky from sitting. that little bit of remaining fluid you showed draining was pretty horrible haha

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

He had it sitting in his shed for about 4-5 years. That trans was so dirty in the beginning. I didn't show it but I power washed it for like 30 minutes. Who knows what kind of dirt and crap had gotten into it. Once I break it in, I'm going to punch it on a couple back roads and around some corners where I have some space. I want to put it through it's paces before I take it to the track next weekend. I'll report back and let you know what's up with it, thanks for the input!!

@samwam131 6 лет назад

Garage Built Hondas That Syncromesh is magic lol. It got rid of my third gear grind.

@TheXXXskater1 6 лет назад

Happy father's day Jon. Thanks for the content always look back at your vidoes when I'm stuck.

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Thanks, same to you!! Glad to have you always have been around! The support means a lot!

@tommyandchill 6 лет назад

LSD right in time for track day! Would love to see some track footage of your first hairpin turn or maybe some sort of live reaction vid to the LSD.. good luck out there, Jon 🤙

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

I can't wait to see if I can feel the difference, I'll definitely give an update/reaction video if all goes well!

@themechanic6117 6 лет назад

Great info here, those rubber boots are genius !

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Thanks, and aren't they!! What an excellent idea. Don't have to worry about all the sand/dust at the track anymore!

@sineadjenkins8499 2 года назад

just subed mate, easy to listen to and very informative.

@GarageBuiltHondas 2 года назад

Thanks! Hope you enjoy the older and future content!

@YerVangster 6 лет назад

Awesome video! I probably going to do this on my transmission.

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Yes, for sure!!

@salemaldosari333 6 лет назад

Hey man great video bro 💪🏼💪🏼 i also have a s1 transmission in my EF but dont know if its the ls or b16 i blew the clutch out in it so ima be taking it out soon but as far as your car feeling like that when turning its the aftermarket LSD all transmission with modified or after market lsd you will feel it while accelerating an turning as far as oem wont feel a thing

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

I figured, it feels completely different with the Synchomesh in it!

@Marcking98 6 лет назад

Very thorough. Wow good info dude

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Thanks Marc!

@dalev1319 Год назад

You’ll you not need to use a lsd fluid modifier? Depending on the diff make. Moose juice was the name used in GM limited slips. Just a thought. Great information. Thanks.

@theslickbrick_F-250 5 лет назад

Very helpful! Good video!!

@GarageBuiltHondas 5 лет назад

Thanks!!

@bseries8826 6 лет назад

Thank you. You just answered a question I had in mind for a while.

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Which question, I'm curious now!?

@bseries8826 6 лет назад

Garage Built Hondas about my cable trans. Has YS1 label and the bolts for the detent balls. Was told it was B17, but you confirmed it. 🤘👊

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Awesome!

@bobbydelamar606 6 лет назад

I just did a clutch on a Celica, and it shuttered a bit but got better as it broke in. My Prelude never shuttered and I have changed the clutch a couple times. Thinking about Competition next time.

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Thanks Bobby, I'll update in the track day or after track day video! 👍

@upfactoryracing4148 6 лет назад

Great info as always Jon! Sorry Officer I was doing Science! Even if gears are the same you will love the cornering benefits from the LSD! Have you thought of changing out the final drive gears. M factory 4.7 is about 500 bucks but will kick ass on a power circuit course!

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

I haven't looked into it but imagine it would be a nice difference from the 4.4. maybe in time I can get that upgrade. I do want to go hydro eventually as time/money allow so hopefully soon I'll get there! I wonder if an officer would be a dick if I said that, or if he saw the GoPro on the steering column. Lol

@upfactoryracing4148 6 лет назад

Garage Built Hondas we could only hope!

@illestFlavor 6 лет назад

I was focusing on that fuel gauge being so close to E more than anything lol.

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Lmao, that's EF life right there!

@SIRICKO 6 лет назад

I have hear bad things and good thing about these clutches. I was so mixed on going with one I couldn’t make a decision. I have to say tho I’m a big fan of competition clutches now tho.

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

I loved my Competition Clutch I just removed and saving it just in case. We'll see how this one does!

@drew0348 Год назад

Great video I recently saw this when trying to identify my B-series transmission. It has no badge I tested the gear ratio and looked at the casing as you described. It has a 5.5 like the 92-93 but the case has no detent like the 88-91. Do you have any suggestions. Thanks in advance

@GarageBuiltHondas Год назад

Just do the testing as I did. That'll give you the gear ratios. Either long or short geared, might not be able to narrow it down 100% but you'll then know which it is.

@needles300 6 лет назад

i have the b16a sir 2 with the lsd transmission, ive noticed it was a bit harder to steer than having the stock d series. as far as handling goes, it feels more like its on rails. no weird shutter or noises. feels like the road is steering the car haha.

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Thanks for the input needles, I swapped fluids and added another 200 miles and it feels great now. I'll finally get to test it out in the next couple days!

@needles300 6 лет назад

as you explained the shutter, since you put a new clutch and pressure plate in. it could have been just braking in. especially since you probably had the old flywheel in it. sticky surface and slippery new surface binding together causing a slight shutter. (I hope this makes sense)

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

True, but the flywheel was brand new too. I believe it was the lack of the friction modifiers in the regular oil. In the Synchomesh I used it felt excellent and had no major issues at the track today!

@daniellemanuel1234 6 лет назад

That's how fwd lsd cars feel. I remember years ago I welded my diff in a z24 for drag racing. And when I was on the road it could get hairy.

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Ok cool, thanks for the input! I was a little skeptical at first!

@Van_frederick 5 лет назад

great vid

@GarageBuiltHondas 5 лет назад

Thanks Jaheel

@johnnychimpo2928 6 лет назад

I used to have YS1 for my B16A swap in my 89 CRX Si.

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Perfect setup!

@AmYisraelChaiEchad 6 лет назад

Great stuff.. priceless..

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

👍 thanks

@jonmmarquis777 4 года назад

Great video*

@da6xsi06 6 лет назад

You can use the ef automatic transmission vss on the cable b series Trans. It's a plug in play and has the same teeth count as the stock ls vss.

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Nice, what about the manual one? I can't remember if I've ever swapped one in but I believe it fits as well.

@da6xsi06 6 лет назад

Garage Built Hondas It has to be the automatic Transmission vss. It's identical to the da Integra b series vss so your miles per hour should be accurate. The vss from the manual ef transmission is plastic and has less teeth so it reads 5mph more. I could send you a picture that compares the stock da vss and the auto ef vss.

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Ok, great info! I'll have to remember that in my "EF library" in my brain. 😀

@hond4srule 6 лет назад

Pronounced perfectly 👍

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

😀

@josescargarage2022 5 лет назад

Man I hope to be as knowledgeable as you man... how do you know all this stuff!

@GarageBuiltHondas 5 лет назад

Thanks Jose, it's all just been experience, getting outside working on cars (88-00 Hondas) and having fun. If you really enjoy working on them, it'll never feel like actual work. To this day I still enjoy them so much!

@juliof5148 5 лет назад

That literally happens to me all the time even when starting off straight it charters , just yesterday I did a pull and went for 2nd and blew the diff... after it driving like that for 2 years.

@GarageBuiltHondas 5 лет назад

I switched to Pennzoil Synchromesh and the chatter went away immediately luckily.

@josescargarage2022 5 лет назад

Quick question my man, I’m planning on doing a b20b with a b16 non lsd transmission on my 88 sedan and I wanted to ask you what axels can I use for the swap. I appreciate your time to read my comment thanks my man.

@GarageBuiltHondas 5 лет назад

Any 90-93 Integra axles as long as your using the intermediate shaft from that car too.

@howardkey6152 5 лет назад

With a steady oil cloud

@EFOMAR 6 лет назад

😎😎😎hell yea trans is key to power as well

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Hoping it'll feel different this coming weekend!!

@vwbug6106 2 года назад

I got a question I am going b serious on my 91 si hatchback and I came across a good b18b1 out off a 95 integra obd1 set up however I want to still be able to run obd0 my question is can I run a pr4 A02 ecu And ob0 distributor I am running all stock motor for this b18b1. Please advise on what I should use to run obd0 thank you.

@GarageBuiltHondas 2 года назад

Yes, the obd0 parts will work on your car. It's a little easier since you don't need to convert to obd1.

@BRENDAJASON1 2 года назад

Well looks like I got a 88-91 trans mine hasn’t got the 2 bolts underneath the tag is gone from it guy I bought it from said it was from a gsr jdm but it’s been out for a long time so me myself not sure

@GarageBuiltHondas 2 года назад

👍

@foil666 6 лет назад

You know it's a real honda when the fuel gauge is always near, or preferably at, the empty mark :D

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Especially an EF!

@BODenKai 3 года назад

mine cant go that low. it starts to sputter at half way. wonder if maybe the pump aint low enough

@GarageBuiltHondas 3 года назад

That or the fuel pump filter is positioned incorrectly.

@young_humble2939 5 лет назад

Hey Jon I have a question regarding the pressure plate. So My previous trans was a S1 b16 The trans I’m going to use now is a YS1 Ls Looking at the video I see that you can’t use the S1 clutch disc on the YS1 my question is can I still use the same pressure plate ?

@GarageBuiltHondas 5 лет назад

I've read all the B series pressure plates are the same and can be swapped. It's the disc that's different from the small spline 90-91 compared to the large spline 92-up. I've never actually swapped one around myself because I always buy new clutches, I'm imagining this to work 100% though.

@Tycrx89 6 лет назад

I have a spare shift selector bar from my b16 trans if you need one thats in good working condition

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Awesome! Let me see about this one first. I might try to weld it then grind down the excess, smooth it out and then drill any that is in the linkage hole. Or I might not. Lol

@Tycrx89 6 лет назад

Garage Built Hondas haha no problem it’s yours if you need it!👍🏻

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Thanks man!!

@indiosmith7923 6 лет назад

I just got hired at my local mill. Really want to go B series on my 88 hatch SI. 650 for high comp b20 just not sure how I'm gonna go about rest of swap. LoL..

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

It's not too hard, there's a lot of info out there to help get you started!

@R.A.N.B.I 3 года назад

And what year Civic si has a b16 manual transmission

@eugenebaker3682 6 лет назад

Awesome

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Thanks Eugene!

@stefanvanbraam9792 3 года назад

Doing a B20b vtec build but not sure on transmission. Not sure on cable or hydraulic or even the years my block can take. Any tips?

@GarageBuiltHondas 3 года назад

Any B series

@Kanjodreamer 3 года назад

I have a stock crossmember on my ef, Do I have to remove it to get the transmission out? Can I just remove the arm on one side? or should I take the whole thing out?

@Kanjodreamer 3 года назад

Just saw your other video with the broken clutch fork and within a few seconds my question was answered! Thanks to you I'm where I'm at. I wouldn't have ever done a dpfi to mpfi before or go through the trouble of going b series in my ef. But your videos are so detailed and easy to follow. my car is on insta @fidelsanti20. thanks again!

@jacoblarkin7145 2 года назад

Do you happen to know the stamped code on the S1 differential?

@GarageBuiltHondas 2 года назад

I do not, sorry

@marvinreyes6270 2 года назад

hi bro if s80 transmission short gear how many count drive shaft

@GarageBuiltHondas 2 года назад

Does it have the Vin plate on it still?

@grantgibson9611 6 лет назад

Shuttering may be coming from the new clutch, depending on brand and model clutch. Just an idea

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

True. It's gone away a little. Not sure if you read the other comments but I changed the fluid and it feels a lot better.

@jasonvincent690 6 лет назад

What would you say is a fair price for the non lsd b16 cable transmission?

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

300-400

@philipdaigneault6822 6 лет назад

Hey quick question, my 91 civic si, i have a b20 with b16 cable trans, and my speedometer is not working, ive tried 2 different ones, like when im at high speed like 90mph itll go up to like 15mph, any help would be great!!

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Cluster is broken. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uZRvIN5MErk.html

@bighomieJ5X 5 лет назад

Check the speedo cable behind the cluster..make sure it's intact. Also the actual cable might be bad . I usually would keep a few spares as my local junkyard only charges 2$.

@MerrillSloan Год назад

Anyone tell me where the CV axle actually bottoms out when you install it. Does the inner CV stub contact the differential splined receiver, the one with the four segments with the notches. I am having a big problem getting the left axle in all the way. I took the clip off to insert it as much as possible but it needs to go in about 3/16

@MerrillSloan Год назад

...more. I believe something in the diff i's blocking the insertion

@GarageBuiltHondas Год назад

It doesn't touch the diff. Are you trying to replace and axle?

@jdmgatekeeper5849 Год назад

Do you know how many turns for a b16a2 transmission HYDRO??

@GarageBuiltHondas Год назад

I don't. I take it the vin plate is missing from the transmission?

@calebjohnson64 Год назад

My b series transmission is a A1-1045517 sticker and I cannot find a starter to save my life I’ve already given up my starter that came with it.. hope you see this I need some help all the forums are not helping. Thanks!

@GarageBuiltHondas Год назад

Did you Google "B series A1 transmission" and see what comes up? Once you know what it's from, just buy a starter for that car.

@itsdeeturn 2 года назад

I have a 1989 prelude manual wanting to do b20b swap what transmission would be best

@GarageBuiltHondas 2 года назад

Any will be fun honestly.

@itsdeeturn 2 года назад

@@GarageBuiltHondas will a 1997 s80 hydro trans or a 1994 ys1 cabled trans work my prelude is cable if I was to use the hydro trans

@GarageBuiltHondas 2 года назад

I'm not familiar with swaps in those cars. If they make mount kits I'm sure either will work.

@Da_Red_Gobblin 4 года назад

Is there a difference between the 92 starter and 1990 starter

@GarageBuiltHondas 4 года назад

No, all B series should work even automatic

@jamaicalove8483 4 года назад

I need a b16 hydraulic transmission do you have any

@GarageBuiltHondas 4 года назад

Not currently

@anthonyruiz6544 6 лет назад

Jon I want to purchase a 90 crx si but was wondering if a b20b swap would be better to build than the d series that come in the crx

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

It's definitely stronger and tons of more torque, but the stock crx SI engine is no slouch. I love the way the A6 engine feels.

@marvinreyes6270 2 года назад

im just asking about b18a1 si tranny its good for b20b engine

@GarageBuiltHondas 2 года назад

It fits and works fine.

@alexanderstark4002 2 года назад

I bought an Action Clutch 99-00 Civic Si Stage 1 OEM style clutch kit for my 90-93 cable trans (not sure of the year as of now). I didn't check if the clutch would fit on the output shaft. But... the trans bolted up fine. Haven't drove on that setup yet but I would assume the trans wouldn't have even bolted in if the clutch wasn't right so if anyone wants to use an Action Clutch 99-00 Civic Si Stage 1 clutch kit you can. If I'm wrong later when I run the setup I will update the post then

@GarageBuiltHondas 2 года назад

Your transmission is a 92-93 hopefully. If it was a 90-91 the clutch would've been loose around the input shaft. It still fits, but it'll probably strip either the input shaft or clutch teeth before long.

@alexanderstark4002 2 года назад

@@GarageBuiltHondas the detent bolts are there as you showed in the video so it is 92-93. Thank you for the reply I was mad confused for a second

@Motor_Marv_Customs Год назад

What if my 89 b16a says y1 not ys1?

@GarageBuiltHondas Год назад

Check it.

@howardkey6152 5 лет назад

Always feel bad driving my d16 on the highway at 80mph just revvvvvved out

@GarageBuiltHondas 5 лет назад

It's the worst.

@R.A.N.B.I 4 года назад

Are the linkage cables the same

@GarageBuiltHondas 4 года назад

Yes

@manny5138 6 лет назад

I have a transmissions that has a y2 sticker on it. All I found on google is that it’s from a crx/civic ukdm but I can’t find a trim model?

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

B series, right?

@manny5138 6 лет назад

Garage Built Hondas transmission came with the ef I bought and the guy said it was a b16. I wouldn’t know how to tell if it’s a b series transmission sorry still new to Hondas.

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Does the case look like one of the two in the video? What engine is in your car?

@manny5138 6 лет назад

Garage Built Hondas the casing looks like the 90-91 without the bolts underneath. I’m about to mark the input shaft and different and start counting the spins and let you know what I get.

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

@marvinreyes6270 2 года назад

hi sir b18a1 tranny s1 is it short gear for b20b

@GarageBuiltHondas 2 года назад

You'll need to check and see if it's a short geared transmission. The decals don't mean anything.

@bseries8826 6 лет назад

Where can I get the boot for the radius rod

@bseries8826 6 лет назад

Nvm. Just contacted Justice. Thank you though.

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Here's the link he sent me! www.amazon.com/dp/B00CF0XF78/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_O1PjBbW3VP4QS

@ramvanbobby3889 6 лет назад

how's it doing so far

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Excellent!

@jonmmarquis777 4 года назад

Links to the stuff you use??

@GarageBuiltHondas 4 года назад

What "stuff"?

@jeanmitchell1648 6 лет назад

Hey John i would love to buy that ys1 tranny (the one with the 2 bolts under) 😍😁 ... btw great info bro

@jeanmitchell1648 6 лет назад

And the one that was on the civic is very short compared to mines i run at 65 mph on 3,200 rpms ... there is a 90 91 4.26 cable tranny ? I know for sure i have the longest tranny in the world lol

@jeanmitchell1648 6 лет назад

Yooo you had an ys1 gsr on the civic the hole time lol thats awesome sorry for the comments bro my bad lol.

@GarageBuiltHondas 6 лет назад

Comment as much as you want anytime and all the time man! I know dude, I'm a freaking dork!! Haha. If I sell one I'll let you know, and if you don't mind waiting til next year, I want to go hydro on my track car so I might sell a couple that I have!

@jeanmitchell1648 6 лет назад

Garage Built Hondas hahaha shit happens bro!! anyways thanks too you man I really apreciate all your info . And happy to see that s1lsd is working good , man youare blessed. For the Ys1 ill be here waiting count on it 👍 good luuck on track.