My friend works at Tatsu and he's pretty close with the maintenance guys. He says that besides staffing, another reason they don't like to run Side 2 at Tatsu is because it gives more errors than Side 1. Personally, I think that has to do with when Tatsu's computer caught fire in 2021. I remember that day. It was back when I still worked at the park. I was taking my Revolution certification test and all of a sudden there was a big commotion with the supervisors and a lot of talk about Tatsu on the radios. Obviously, staffing is another big issue there but for that and for Superman, they are plagued with lots of maintenance problems
Not a coaster, but would love if they rethemed Crazanity to Joker and put in a funhouse queue like Fiesta Texas, since it’s sitting in the middle of all the DC character rides anyways.
During my recent visit the operators were trying hard, guests are just far too slow and don’t get the concept. One of my rides we actually almost got it were only off by like 2 seconds.
I 100% agree with getting rid of those comfort collars. I don't think these are much of an issue for shorter riders, but since I'm 6'1, those things really ruin whatever ride I'm on, and I know people around my height also really don't like these. I know it sounds like a petty fix, but it would definitely improve the experience for a lot of people.
Hell nah it is horrible when shorter. I am 5’8 and it headbangs unless you hold it awkwardly down the whole time. The track is smooth as full throttle, but yet it managed to be the third most uncomfortable ride in the park for people tall enough for neck slaps or short enough for ear slaps. Makes me dislike the awesome High five element purely based on the collars (X2 is first or second based on seat, and riddler swaps based on x2. Comfort collars are just a horribly flawed design that the gp dislikes as much as thusies. They only benefit the insurance rates of a park in my opinion
No, when you are short, they also hurt. When I first rode ice breaker the year it opened, I was not even 5 foot yet, and it HURT. Back, they rattled around your ears and head, or forward, it really rubbed against your neck.
I’m 5’1 and I despise comfort collars. I rode Ice Breaker, before the collars were removed, and Tigris at BGT, and they were both one and done for me. I couldn’t enjoy the them because I spent the entire ride trying to hold the collars down to keep them from chopping me in the neck and ears.
I do agree about Viper. The last time I rode it was back in 2009 and my head was playing pinball between those restraints. I swear that ride cleared out my sinuses because my nose was constantly running throughout the rest of the day. Tatsu is the big reason why I have to wear a good sports bra almost every time I go to Magic Mountain. It seriously isn't the most comfortable when you are on the break run laying on your chest. I'm OK with the shoulder restraints on Superman. They are there to keep riders safe and secure on the ride, and I don't think Six Flags wants to get into hot water with CAL/OSHA over it. Maybe instead of just going to a lap bar on the backwards side, maybe consider vest restraints like the ones on Riddler Revenge at Six Flags New England.
Another option for Goliath would be to add something before the mid course break run. It has so much speed you could probably slap a nice big upward helix right on to the support structure. It would complement the one in the spaghetti section too!
What I want for Goliath at Magic Mountain,(and Titan at Six Flags Over Texas) is for B&M to update the layout. It's probably fantasy but it would cool.🙂
Lol when apocalypse is running at its intended speed, the ending is elite, much stronger finish than Renegade. Got to experience that at fright fest 2010 and if it always ran like that it'd be a 9/10 ride
The thing I would say for X2 is just make sure the effects and music are consistently working. If I was to give it a major refurb, just reprofile the whole ride and retrack it to have smoother rotations like Eejanaika or Dinoconda.
I agree with the Revolution. Lose the trim brakes. I went on it as my first coaster a few weeks after it opened, and it had none. It was considered a "White Knuckler" at the time, and that last helix was one of the best parts of the ride.
That Helix on Revolution used to be fast. But people started to complain. I would love to see it go faster like it used to. I rode this in 1976 and it was fast. I was 15 then.
Making the drop on Goliath steeper is really the only thing it would need if you ask me, save for adding another helix like Titan has. Titan is my favorite ride at Over Texas for its sheer positives, but like Goliath, the drop is underwhelming. So that's really where I say it needs improvement for sure.
I agree on Goliath and I'd add height so that the drop itself had a more peaked profile and that'd give you more airtime and speed. Plus I'd take that turn around and bank it outward. With the extra speed from the talked drop that turnaround become an airtime moment and possibly a very good one. Full Throttle: you're 100%. I have nothing to add. Superman: here's my fantasy. Make it a flying coaster and you launch out then do a fly to lie and climb up the tower. X2: make it smooth always Scream: Lansdscaping Riddler's Revenge: 100% agree. Sitdown loopers are fun. Viper: Vekoma trains FTW.
1:40 There is an easy extension possible with just simply extending out the brake run track U-turn by ~15-25ft. The buffer wall to the path is ~20ft thick. They could shrink this down and add better sound damping. Also possible to bump out the buffer wall and relocate that candy store to keep the path wide enough. Any distance extended would also add that much on the other side the U-turn for some brakes as well, you get double the extension in track length, would be enough to at least get the brakes off of the drop.
Changing the end of Ninja would be highly improbable, but what about throwing some Vekoma family suspended coaster trains on there? That would be awesome over that terrain!!!!!
Here’s what I would do to the Batman ride: I would re theme it to The Batman and give it a nice red paint scheme, and steepen the turn around and give it more theming. This definitely goes in fantasy 😂
Not since The Dark Knight Coaster has Six Flags themed a coaster directly to a DC movie. Sure they might tie in, like SFGAM Batman for Returns, Mr. Freeze for Batman & Robin, Joker for Suicide Squad, and Wonder Woman GLC for Wonder Woman (2017). My guess is that they have to pay WB extra.
Ice Breaker had its comfort collars removed because children under 54" were hitting their heads on the buckle. This issue doesn't apply to the other Premier Skyrockets that have a 54" height requirement.
And the complaints when the 54” requirement happened as they were making it a family coaster, so much that Penguin Trek has its Height Requirement as a selling point.
Definitely in agreement on Viper. Just needs a touch of TLC, new trains would do wonders for it. Goliath: I'd add height to change the drop angle to make it steeper. If not that, fix the trim and make it closer to what it was when it opened and was more insane. Scream needs theming. Badly. Wonder Woman, since I don't really have an issue with the restraints, I'd also add theming to it to create some head-chopper moments. Gold Rusher: Build a mine themed tunnel over the final helix. Full Throttle: Just finish building the ride. Twisted Colossus: I would extend the back half of the layout, because A.) It's a fun ride and I'd love more of it, and B.) it would give more time to load the next train for a guaranteed duel. Barring that, I agree with you that stopping the train is the best option.
Youre so dumb and stupid. Why should they tear it out? its not a bad roller coaster, its probably in the middle tear, the only issue is that it can kinda give a headache after, and that its in a middle of a parking lot with no theme and the only scenery really is the parking lot. If they wanna tear down a ride entirely, Superman maybe cause its so boring and overrated all you go is up in the air and down, and fast.
i felt so seen at that x2 improvement!! very recently got over my fear of intense rollercoasters and have become admittedly obsessed with x2, but it DESTROYED my calves in a triple punch and i remember how shocking it was, i thought i somehow did something wrong cause surely a coaster wouldn't hurt! anyways, super fun video, been loving your channel as my favorite gateway to this new interest of mine!
My fantasy for Superman is to modernize the launch so it actually hits 100 mph, and actually goes up to the 400 foot mark. Work with Zamperla or Intamin to get it done.
Definitely, but these days I've seen it get up to about 390 feet which is pretty dang close, even in the video he showed of it, it goes up there for sure on the right side
I love Magic, I have so many great memories working here circa 2001 to 2003 and since all the ride operators were my classmates, i had unlimited fast lane coming through the exit... ahhh i even remember one time our supervisor left us right at goliath when the park had 10 minutes left to open and we RAN all the way to X to be the first ones on!!, great times. I really hope they can add one bad ass Giga before I leave this Earth.
@@AirtimeThrills lmao when i tell i got to ride batman 15 times one day 🤣🤣🤣, in 2003ish 4 they cracked down hard on us doing that if i remember correctly. *sighs* Magic Mountain will always be my Disneyland.
Love your stuff @Airtime Thrills! I just want to say on the Bat Clone: My one fix is to take the trains and make it so the first few rows go forwards and the last few go backwards. I rode it backwards once at MM, and it's a MUCH better ride in reverse!!!
They should definitely add a holding brake at the end of green track on twisted colossus. I've always wondered why they left it in the guest's hands to decide whether or not the ride would duel.
I have an idea for a video- Favorite coaster at each Cedar Fair park and what you would change about it. I think these types of videos could be a series
The issue my partner and I both had with Riddler's Revenge was not the "standing up" part. My head kept getting bashed around against the padded over the shoulder restraints. We rode it a few times in a row until he needed to stop because he was getting a bad headache.
Holding the train on the left will reduce capacity, while I think they need a seat tester in front to improve operations and they also need new rmc trains and also add a 4th train to that too
Really great video, and I was surprised by how frequently my opinion matched up with yours (especially on Full Throttle). This would be a great series for other parks with 12+ coasters. If you want to do Great Adventure, I've got some ideas.
The reason Superman has OTSR's is because of the backwards launch. If it overshoots the brakes (like if there was a power outage) the LSM stators would act as weak eddy current brakes. It has a fixed set of much more powerful eddy current brakes past the station that will stop it really abruptly if it does this. They don't want people getting thrown forward, so they have those. They could probably take them off on the forwards side. I don't really see much of a problem with them though, because they basically act as lap bars as the track is straight and the shoulder harnesses don't even touch your shoulders. Great video!
yuuuuuo holding the train for twisted Colossus is such a no brainer. been wishing for that since before the ride opened. That animation showed the lift hill speeds would adjust & Im like... yeah but things wont always go smoothly.. Maybe even easier to program... Have it stop on the chain lift based and start based on a sensor
Honestly I think if X2 had some kind of leg restraint like a flying coaster that would hold your legs against the train, that wacking of the calfs wouldn't be nearly as bad. That is the one painful part of the coaster for me too because my legs swing back and forth against the train.
On X2 I ALWAYS ride with my feet up on the seat like I'm crouching. Completely eliminates all the leg banging that makes the ride hurt. Still get some head banging but not much you can do about that.
For West Coast Racers, I'd change the timing so that the wait before the second lap was shorter. I notice they don't start boarding until the other train finishes the lap. If they consistently ran 3 trains or had some way to speed up boarding, they could make this part less of a buzzkill.
I just visited SFMM for the first time. A lot of coasters feel like a top notch #2, but it doesn’t feel like there’s a real #1 headliner. X2 I guess is, but being how intense it is, it’s hard to have it be a headliner when it’s not for everyone.
Could add a higher speed lift to Goliath or a mini-LSM boost the top of the drop to get a little air time there, this would also make the air time hill have actual floater+ every time.
For X2, they should turn the seats around on one side of the train. So half facing forward, and half facing backward. Two completely different ride experiences.
Just a proper drop at the end would make Full Throttle so much nicer. Give it a small spike to eat the speed and switch track to go around the spike, just like Batman Gotham City Escape.
I just went to magic mountain and I agree with most of your choices There are three that I dont' agree with though. First of all Batman needs more themeing and landscape, because I found it depressing because it looked like a bunch of random cement and no landscape at all. Second riddlers revenge. The park already has a looper and I would say that the main point of the coaster being there is for it to be a stand up. I think Riddler's revenge needs better restraints such as the restraints that are comfy like the ones on floorless coasters. Third I think scream needs more left turns. I rode it one time and I chose the spot on the far left and I was disappointed because the right side looked like it would be more fun and there were no left turns.
Goliath: Remove it and replace it with an out and back hyper coaster with lots of airtime hills and make it longer. Also, remove the small helix. Scream: Add some theming. Superman: Tuen it into a Top Thrill Dragster/Kingda Ka. Full Throttle: Extend it, add another launch, add more twists and turns. Or just redo the entire ride. Revolution: Switch to lap bars if it hasn’t already. I haven’t ridden West Coast Racers and Wonder Woman yet. Other park improvements it can add: Giga coaster Wing coaster Dive machine coaster It also needs to improve the overall park experience. I am a roller coaster enthusiast, but Magic Mountain can learn a lot from Cedar Point. Maybe Cedar Fair will buy it to help. Look how it transformed Canada’s Wonderland.
Having TC stop at the bottom of the lift hill would be a hit to throughput. I could see MM implementing a mandatory locker thing if they really wanted to push the dueling aspect.
I just want to point out that I ride Wonder Woman without the shoulder restraints. I toss thim off at the top of the lift hill and slide them back on just before the brake run. It works out just fine. So it wouldn't cost a whole lot to change this over, just cut the shoulder harnesses out. I know that falls under the fantasy category because of liability but something along a middle ground like just replacing the restraints on the existing trains with just lap bars would work just fine. On a related note, I've also done this on the smaller raptors and yeah... Don't do that.
@@AirtimeThrills Wonder Woman at fiesta Texas - courage lasso flight golden something whatever - now has super tight shoulder straps. I can't say I was thrilled with that but since I'm an old fart and that discovery was made during my first back seat ride it may have been for the best.
My suggestion is for Tatsu… figure out a way for the trains to right themselves at the brakes so that riders aren’t hanging awkwardly and painfully while waiting for the other train to dispatch. Kind of like how Skyrush released the restraints at their brakes to relieve our thighs. (Thank goodness those days are over)
7:25 Gold Rusher's restraints are my favorite. Maybe get a modern train with a seat divider because those restraints are free like a buzz bar. 10:34 It is impossible for people to see you due to the doors and the proximity makes it hard to see, which I will get into what I want to see the view of myself for the next one 11:58 I want to see myself on the ride with a successor to my old Alaska shirt that was a gift from my grandma's sister once I got to that size in 2014 before bidding farewell to it in 2016. 15:23 Magic Flyer has the maximum height because someone told me height restrictions are based on who can fit. I will go to Mexico City, but due to the fact my grandma wants to save up for other things, I really want to go with someone, but I don't want to disrupt anyone, like why I got banned from there after my eclipsed desperation because I was 20 years old, one month before my birthday, during the annular eclipse, wanting to see what it was like from someone sending me the picture wasn't guaranteed, but I was told someone would send it at the last minute, but I was still impacted because I understand being under certain regulations can be strict. I would've changed myself seeing someone who can be with me at Six Flags Mexico (mind you, I can go there) and possibly be reinstated.
Really enjoy your videos, especially this one! One fantasy fix for the end of Ninja I've always proposed would be to beef up the final lift motor and speed it up. Also never really hear much about Magic Flyer, looks like a mall food court coaster. I wonder if the height restraint is due to weight, that train looks seriously precarious for flat lats. I have no doubt it can safely handle a train of adults, the wear and tear on the physical system probably rises exponentially with heavier loads
Ya know adding a sit down train to riddlers aint a bad idea. I dont mind the stand up factor, in fact i think its so overblown. But i never thought about it and it's a pretty good idea!
idk abt the batman at magic mountain but on goliath at sfft its usually running so fast that the "slow turnaround" feels like its ripping your feet off like raptor on that double helix
For X², I say give it that Eejanaika/ Dinoconda twist, especially with that full-full element instead of the backflip going into the turnaround; put the backflip on the upper raven turn coming off the first drop.
Recently I had asked some employees at magic mountain about why Superman escape from Krypton is always so inconsistent and apparently its because just launching one side takes up 50% of the whole parks power. Its opening less and less now because of this problem
Goliath is about the only coaster I disagree with you here, it's not the lack of steepness that hurts it, it's the chain lift. All chain lifts in the history of ever run at a consistent speed from bottom to top, except a select few that slow down due to the block zone programming. Goliath slows to an absolute crawl when it gets to the top, and that's why there's no air time on the drop. This change would be in the EASY category to just let the train ride to the top at a consistent speed. And imo, HARD category to add some airtime hulls. I've always thought it was stupid to have Goliath tower over Colossus with a turnaround. Give the the ride an airtime hill immediately after th3 drop, then rise into a turnaround in the parking lot, before hitting another new airtime hill and then continuing along the usual course. I don't believe that's fantasy at all, it's probably 1000 feet of track, maybe a $10 million investment? And it would save the coaster, eliminating the need for a giga.
Truthfully, I’d be curious to see how Wonder Woman would run with shorter trains. I think the long trains interrupt the pacing of the elements and it becomes extremely apparent when riding in the back of the train. It almost feels as if each airtime hill is providing the pulling force of a first drop rather than sustained ejector throughout the element. It still has good forces, just not quite what it could be.
I've said before that Green Lantern would probably be one of the better floorless coasters if they replaced the trains with those, but considering Scream is already there, I guess sit-down trains might make more sense. Here's a proposal, though: how about hyper trains? I mean I know they've never had those on a coaster with inversions before, but I can't think of a reason they couldn't. Especially since the park already has inverting coasters that use lap bars.
I don't know how the clamshells would fare with inversions. Based on how loose they are, makes me wonder, but as long as your legs cant get out from under them i dont see why not
X2 had me and my ten year old daughter all freaked out lol. We were in the very front, and SLOWLY going over the first drop backwards and on our backs. For the first time in my life i was actually afraid on a roller coaster. We were just looking at each other for what felt like an eternity. I thought she was gonna start panicking. I almost did. Just slowly tipping over and feeling like we were about to slip out of the seats before mercifully the train finally gained momentum. ugh..
Full Throttle: Same, but just remove the braked drop, not extend it out (Hard) Goliath: FIX THAT MIDCOURSE Twisted Colossus: Fix the operations (do what west coast racers does at least) (Easy) Scream: Retrack (Medium) Batman: Agree Wonder Woman: Make it faster (Hard) Riddler’s Revenge: Agreed Gold Rusher: Retrack (Hard, because none of the other arrow mines have been retracked) WCR: Agreed Apocalypse: Make it taller (Fantasy) Ninja: remove the chainlift ending and extend the layout (hard, on the verge of fantasy) Superman: Agreed Tatsu: Give it back its old color scheme (Easy) Viper: Retrack it (Hard, also on the verge of fantasy) X2: X3 (nah jk agree) Revolution: agree
The reason for adults not being able to ride Magic Flyer is whiplash. When the train comes out of a dip an adult’s head would be sent backwards and would be behind where their head was when the train entered the dip.
Wife and I worked there in the early 2000's. We also went there all the time growing up, saw alot of these rides open. Batman and Riddler used to have the best theming. From sounds, to fog, etc. Alot of Batman is boarded up now blocking all the great ground theming and Riddler doesnt do anything either for the que. Just a waste.
All about money for most and if its worth it do it. That Road Runner Express, was that the one that came from the old park in New Orleans. ? ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@AirtimeThrills True, but in terms of comfort those kinds of restraints would still be far better than the old ones. If B&M could retrofit those onto Riddler I think people would appreciate the ride more.
I hate comfort collars, unless its the skyrocket 2 at SeaWorld San Diego, I literally had like, 3 inches of space between my lap and restrain, I was holding on for dear life at the heartline roll at the top. Probably because I was a 5 feet tall 85 pound 12 year old, but still.
