A few years back, I worked as a kitchen and bathroom fitter for about 10 years in total, and I have never EVER had to smother every component of a trap in silicon! For one I wouldn't dare in case the customer caught me! And secondly If you refer to the instructions, depending on the manufacturer and type of trap, some will tell you to add silicon, some won't because they're designed not to have it there. If it leaks, which only around 10% of mine ever did, use plumbers mait or PTFE tape. Not a tube of silicon. Shocker.
We have a cast iron bath, it's a pig. Discovered that there were 2 foam washers missing. Make no wonder it's been a nightmare. Everything leaking. Everything in this house is a 150 year old massive pig. I once had a plumber come to hook the kitchen sink up. 2 minute job he thought. He was here half a day. Never seen anything like the contraption he came across.
plumber's mait will react to certain types of acrylic products like bathtubs and should not be used. these days we have specially formulated silicone made for these joints like plumber's gold etc
I was advised by the plumbers merchants not to use silicone as it eats into the rubber seals. I cleaned the area thoroughly, fitted the rubber seals, tightened up, and ran the bath several times, including testing the overflow and no leaks whatsoever from the waste. I had a slight leak from the overflow seal at the top of the bath at the rear seal, however that was because I only tightened it by hand, I then put a pair of grips on and tightened it, and all is well.
Ok found this put the hardway.... I tried just using the manufacturers included rubber seal and it failed within a day or 2 (after draining water) so I skipped silicon or plumbers mait putty and went for the new kid on the block, Fernox L-SX which is a bit like silicon but no drying time. Applied Fernox LSX and no leaks after 2 weeks running use so job sorted. L-SX is much more pricey then silicon so plumbers will probably have silicon in their van and use that but with some planning or prep work try fernox L-SX so you don't need to wait for it to dry and can use the bath or sink with water straight away. PS you need silicon or fernox L-SX since sinks and baths can come curved so the rubber seal is not curved, this is why plumbers always use silicon.
Never use SILICONE for this application... Use plumbers putty. You will never be able to get it off if it needs to be replaced in the future. Nice video and thanks for sharing.
I have been in the bathroom remodeling industry since I was 16 so over 15 years now and every single time we’ve ever installed we use plumbers putty along with the top rim of the tub drain shoe and the rubber gasket supplied that goes between the black ABS and the bottom of the bathtub screw it all together and you have a leak free tub for many years to come.
I do a bit of plumbing from time to time and I can't believe the bullshit of having to use silicone everywhere, I mean what is the point in rubber seal if it doesn't work, car pipes don't leak and they don't have oodles of silicone squirted everywhere, it is just total bollocks on the part of the manufacturers, the silicone manufacturers and to a degree plumbers titting around all day (like I had to yesterday, and yes I am pissed off about it) with traps that aren't fit for purpose. I agree with other commentator that plumbing putty better but well done on making video anyway, it still acts as a catalyst for expanding knowledge.Thanks.
the washer between the tub and the waste drain is called a TUB drain or waste SHOE GASKET, that's what you are going to the store to purchase. hope that definition helps.
Good video , the use of silicone is the best way to seal any waste system to a pressed steel or acrylic bathtub , plumbers putty should only be used to bed in a waste on a ceramic basin as it is not usually perfectly flat and can leak if you use the supplied rubber washer , also plumber's putty will not adhere to plastic very well......
You're honestly having to glue the fitting and every part of it in place with silicone?? OMG. No good plumber should ever have to do this - but yes folks there are plenty of bad ones out there. No chance of this one leaking until the silicone deteriorates.
You should silicon those parts in if you want to every replace the drain without a huge effort. Just use plumbers putty on the tub side and the rubber washer on the bottom of the tube.
like the video...but he music although nice....makes me feel sad.....kind of melancholy....like we will never come this way again type of feeling........I don't know but I've tried to watch this video in it's entirety several times....but I can't....it's the music....but Thanks for sharing.....
I know this is old now but…. PLEASE if you get one of those wastes as part of a package or if you buy one deliberately, through it in the bin. They are absolutely useless. The way the multiple parts stack together means multiple failure points. I attempted fitting one twice, used plumbers mait, PTFE, silicone… didn’t matter… the water just finds a way out.
That has never made sense to me, it’s a cylinder, depends where your hand is and which way you are looking. Clockwise to tighten anti clockwise to loosen has always worked for me.
FYI: AND WHILE YOU ARE THERE, GO AHEAD AND FISH OUT ANY HAIR DOWN THE DRAIN WITH A LONG BENT WIRE OR SOMETHING THEY SELL AT THE HARDWARE STORE FOR THAT PURPOSE.
For what reason exactly? All UK manufacturers recommend to use silicone. You better tell them there doing it wrong so we can all learn from experts like yourself
Silicone is faster than putty and a good one has a 25yr guarantee if something needs replacing the least of your worries is a bit of silicone holding the faulty part in go and make your own videos with putty and to the guy saying about the designers not using silicone or a sealer good luck with your waste not using any 👍🏻 obviously not a jar of glue about fitting a bath
Plumbers Putty is much easier than making a silicone sandwich. I've taken out 50 year old tubs in good ol rat invested bank owned homes sealed with putty and have yet to see plumbers putty fail. Most of the failures I see are in the soldered connections on copper, valves and joints in ANY type of pipe.. Also when the house goes abandoned the rats like to chew the piping to get the rest of what water they can until they can find a new source. Silicone I have seen fail EVERYWHERE. Siding, Windows, Sinks, Trim, tubs, showers. I will admit there is silicone that lasts a long time, but companies cut corners, get the cheaper stuff. Homeowners always get the cheaper stuff. I see cheap silicone crack within 3 or 4 months. Plumbers Putty is cheap and reliable ALWAYS. This is the stuff I do day in and out. My knees are almost gone and I'm about ready for replacements I've been doing this so long.
