Eric, The plastic headliner you installed is a backerboard that is meant to be covered in headliner fabric. That’s the reason why the tolerances are off; because the foam backed headliner fabric fills in those gaps and leaves a rattle free non sagging headliner. Awesome videos as always! Thanks for all the great info and tips!!
No it's not. That's the way it's sold. They have several different colors available. They wouldn't do that if it was just 'backing'. Thanks for your comment.
Either it's meant to be covered in fabric or he used the wrong link in the description. The website definitely says it has no fabric and you're supposed to do it yourself. I think you can install it without fabric, as we saw, but they intend on you putting fabric on it
I was helping a friend redo the interior on his older late 70's - early 80's ford truck and we just carefully pulled the old factory headliner out after removing some trim, stripped off the remaining cloth and got rid of the old rotted foam. Then we took it down to a local upholstery shop where they recovered it in a closely matching material of our choice that was better quality than original for $45, took about an hour or so to get it back. It went right back in since it was factory fit, no gaps and looked excellent. We were fortunate the cardboard type headliner backing was still in great shape. Then we installed some rather pricey but very nice quality aftermarket interior door panels, a new dash pad, new carpet and a custom seat re-upholstery job @ $245 in leather like vinyl and it didnt even look like the same truck inside. Years later when he sold it the buyer remarked how clean the interior was, he didnt even realize it wasnt factory.
Even if you decide that the plastic liner is shoddy and want to change it, don't throw it away. Use it as a backing for whatever liner material you might want. It's much better than the original FOR that particular reason.
👍👍THANK YOU... THANK YOU...😎 More then a couple of ppl watch this video... I have been searching the internet for months on how to. You're video is the only detailed, straightforward and real one i can find that used eastwood x mat .I am redoing my headliner in my OBS F150 and after researching best heat sound barrier I ordered the eastwood x mat.( it took almost 2 months to get it due to out of stock and shipping) Silly me I thought they would have a how to video or some info how to install. To other ppl that read this, YES I KNOW... it is mostly straight forward and commen sence but any tricks tips help. Honestly eastwood should be giving you a % bc of your video and advertising... seriously!!! Oh and talking to self... well all of us that work on old vehicles do!! Those ppl that think its weird well seems you are embarrassed to say outloud what is in your head making you get fustrated and angry over things. Talking to self ,That's how we get things done and stay calm to enjoy the project not make it seem like work. .. that and the walks back and forth to get something we forgot or wrong size. Sorry for the ramble just wanted to make sure you knew that you helped me and this video was not pointless or waisted time.
Hey Eric I'm sure you already know this trick but if not I found using the soft side of Velcro or 3m mastic tape between plastic contact points works very well to stop rattle noise very cheap easy way to get rid of unwanted noise
I remember a time in the not-too-distant past when he was in the infancy stages of starting this truck project after he first got it, I suggested to him if he does anything at all to the whole truck, at least put a quick, simple, easy headliner in it so it's just not ugly bare metal and he said he wasn't going to do it. Haha, haha, haha. I could probably even find the comment if I went back and screenshot it. I'm glad he put the sound-deadening material in there as well. Awesome job, Eric! I'm loving this truck so far!
It wasn't planned. Once I removed the trim to install the hands free mic, there was no going back. The time it took to do this work really cost me, but the truck is better for it.
blocki I believe that actually the point of that plastic headliner is to be wrapped with swade or some sorr of fabric to give it shape... I don’t think it’s meant to be installed as just plastic only. lol
@@TRX450RVlogger I think that, too. However, Eric claims that the place where he bought it from advertised it as a complete headliner which does not need that. Looking at the quality and the rattling, I think it'd be better to wrap it in some kind of fabric. But that's just my humble opinion.
That looks a hell of a lot better :-D. It's a pity that the supplier of the parts didn't include sticky sponge strips to fill the edge to roof gaps and help the thin trim parts to be more stable/solid. Maybe a roll of foam house door draft excluder could help with later noise.
zx, THIS MY EXACT THOUGHTS ALSO, FOR $220 IT SHOULD BE " LIKE MOST STUFF ANYMORE " BE BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS. I LIKE THE IDEA OF A PLASTIC ? HEADLINER BUT THIS ONE SEEMS VERY FRAGILE & HE SAID IT SCRATCHES EASILY ? MUST HAVE A VELVET TYPE COATING ON IT ?
nowr2run To be honest, i havn't a clue how much an after market headliner should cost, but i would expect it to fit a bit better. The plastic does sound odd, but like normal headliners we don't normally touch them, but when we do they can get really horrible fast.
hey Eric I think the whole point of that plastic headliner is to be wrapped with some sort of fabric or suede of some sort I think it’s meant to be a base to give shape to whatever you use to wrap it lol...
my 97 reg cab had a white vinyl over cardboard headliner held on by push pins in a red interior truck. it was the factory headliner as well. (i know it was OEM because my grand father bought the truck new in 97, i got it in '03 and he never did anything to that truck.) but i had the work truck model, so i had a vinyl covered floor as well, which i miss in the newer chevy trucks, the carpet sucks and its hard to clean.
I believe that headliner is made of abs plastic, you are supposed to cover it in fabric of your choice. And yes there is a piece of foam in the center of the headliner to keep it from rattling. Nice job Eric.
You don't need to cover it. If you needed to cover it I don't think they would have made it available in a variety of colors. if you read the description of the product, linked in the description, it says you CAN cover it, but you don't have to. Thanks for your comment.
I've seen many sound proofing video's of just using Frost King or Reflectix duct wrap from the HVAC departments at Home Depot or Menards. cheaper than the X Mat product you got to create the same sound deadening characteristics.
@@ericthecarguy unless you have Black leather interior and your car is always parked in direct sunlight DAMN YOU MAZDA!!! so sick of burnt hands,legs and shoulders. gimmie my -20 winters anyday.
I have a 91 Silverado and the interior parts that I've seen work is 88 through 94. But the only major change in the interior after 95 is the dash and steering column. So who knows how interchangeable things are.
Perhaps, removing the sun shades and placing a shaped washer made of the same coloured plastic as the interior to hide the gap. Not ideal, for the cost, but it is what it is. :\
I did sound deadening in my '07 focus because it vibrates like a mofo, got a nasty cut on the foil...lol Any suggestion to resolve the crappy engine mounts on that car?
Buddy of mine he told me to sand the roof before you put that sound deadener on and heat it the sound deadener would stick a whole lot better what do you think plus I am putting in a car System in my car like 4-15” subwoofer
I bought the plastic headliner for my 90 C3500 and I live in the HOT desert. Now, only 2 months after installation the fabric is falling off. I need to take it back out with those crappy chevy clip plastic and re-do the fabric and dye it again. How can I insulate the roof to keep it from dropping the fabric again or is it just a crappy job from the manufacturer of the headliner.
If could do it again, I'd have drilled holes and spray foamed between the roof skins. Granted I have a monster bass install, but still. And yes the a pillar clips are a 4 letter word; same with the kicks. I have a 98 BTW. Everything beside door clips and screws, I have become annoyed with the cab interior at one point or another.
Oh, we know the difference. Matting is suuuch a good thing for the car. I've actually started doing this to all my cars as i get around and fix things in/on them and it makes such a big difference. And for those that might read this, buy your own and replace whatever the factory has in there. It will always be shit quality if your car is under 50k.
Hey aserta, I was pleased to stumble upon this particular video, as sound deadening has been something that I have recently kept my mind occupied with, pondering different solutions, possible negative consequences, etc. So, where do you buy the stuff, and at what price point? Also, Eric mentions that the specific variety that he's using for the underlayment to the headliner is specifically designed for overhead or downward facing applications....the others don't withstand gravity over time. So, I am assuming that this material would be more expensive and/ or less effective than whatever type is ideal for door skins, floor boards, etc. By the way, it's a 1967 Dodge D200 Sweptline retrofitted with a 5.3L "LS"(LQS or something in actuality) motor and 4l60e transmission from an '02 Silverado that most of my efforts are going towards, with a 2000 mustang v6 convertible that, with over 248,000mi, refuses to die as my lesser prioritized perpetual project
1988 to 1994, 1995 they changed the interior to the more rounded dash. fyi i know cause ive been looking for a donor truck with a nice solid cab. im not a body guy and i would much rather replace the whole cab than patch panels. lol i know crazy right.
I'm right there with you... I've got a '93 that's got good guts, but 25 years of Michigan rust is hell on a body... I need to find her a southern brother to make a fine lady out of her... (either that or get extremely lucky on Craigslist or learn to fabricate body panels 😬)
Thanks for another great video! Crazy question: would it make sense to put the sound deadening material on the top side of the headliner or is there a specific reason to glue it to the roof?
it deadens the resonant vibrations of the large flat piece of sheet-metal that is the roof - tap the roof of a non-deadened car or truck and it sounds a bit like a drum... you're aiming to deaden that resonance
On the headliner shell would be insulating, but not truly deadening. And, judging from the looks of working with that piece of plastic, I think it would be more difficult too
Hi I have a question sometimes when I get out of parking and press slightly the brake pedal the the car stops as if I pushed the brake pedal all the way to the floor, very abraptly or the first 5 minutes stopping at red lights but then it breaks smoothly and soft again! Is it something wrong and needs to be fixed or normal after it was parked for a while? Thanks
Hey Eric nice Chanel like a lot. I have A 1998 acura integra, and just replaced the fuel pump, the car tries to crank but will not turn over. I checked all my fuses and they are fine what should I do next?
check fuel pressure at the rail, could be the regulator and not the pump at all. check fuel injectors to make sure you hear them firing, Also check to be sure you have spark. Could be a blown relay or fuse to the ignition system.
I got a question I have 2 10s in my jeep renegade wheel area with bandpass box. I have added deadner to roof and under box trunk area . When I turn speakers up sounds like I'm under. Car wash vibrates and sounds like I'm in a barrel maybe flexing not sure please help. Can some give me steps to make the rear area sound clean and not move all the panels and no flex????
I know 3 master Tech's and 2 engineers. Preferred vehicle of choice old 90s Chevys company supplies brand new Fords for them their personal comments garbage prefer my old trucks !! Grate video very informative
So where did you find all your bits? I have a 92 3500 and as is common the dash is gone. Im currently debating building a new custom dash if I can’t fix what I have.
EricTheCarGuy I was afraid you’d say that. For some reason most of what I find is near as bad as what I have or already picked clean. Appreciate the advice.
I destroyed both pillar trim pieces. This 117 degree temperatures made the clips too brittle, even rocking it back and forth didn’t help. Now I can’t find new ones.
Time was a factor in this build. Originally I wasn't going to replace the headliner as I was only concerned about getting it up and running. Thanks for your comment.
I hate interior and upholstery, it's just so fragile and tight, I'd much rather be working on rusted over headers than do a single thing with upholstery
I followed the headliner link... unfortunately they don't carry one for my truck ☹️ (1996 Dodge Dakota) This kinda really stinks because the headliner fabric is crumbling.
