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HOW TO: Lower your Peugeot/Citroen 

Piggy Power
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In this how to video, I show how to lower or raise the suspension on a torsion bar beam/axle. Usually found on Peugeot's and Citroen's.
There are other methods. This is the one I prefer, you may have other ways you prefer. That is fine. Happy modding!
Thank you for watching, all likes and subscribers are very much appreciated, all comments are read and replied to as soon as I can :-)
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@hipstarchild
@hipstarchild 2 года назад
It's awesome that you took all the time showing us how to do this. With your great video tutorials, I managed to fit a second hand low mileage gearbox, clutch and gear linkages a few years ago.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
Nice! So glad I helped! Sometimes it really is amazing to hear stuff like this...very motivating for me..thankyou 👍🐷
@rainergleba4022
@rainergleba4022 2 года назад
You are absolutely right. The same applies to the 206. I just bought a 206 1.4i (TU3) from 1998 and it's still really good. I am convinced of the older Peugeot models and have already had at least 8 pieces myself. 205, 5 x 206, 406, 106 (208: is actually good, but no longer has any character).
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
Amazing!
@sandy-lo
@sandy-lo Год назад
Thank you so much for taking the time to show this. I always thought my 106 was stuck with its current ride height. If it wasn’t for you i could not have done this job! Thank you 🙏
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower Год назад
Awesome! Glad it helped 👍🐷😁
@andrewwhite4102
@andrewwhite4102 Год назад
Fantastic video. done by someone that actually knows what he's doing and easy to follow without any nonsense. Much appreciated
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower Год назад
My pleasure! Feel free to share the channel with a few mates if you think it's worth it 👌🐷
@ufcww529
@ufcww529 4 года назад
Thanks for letting me know. The rear height adjustment of the vehicle has been successful. The interference is gone now. Without your help, I'd be in big trouble. Thank you again.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
That's great news!! Well done! Please subscribe if you feel it was helpful enough? 👌 🐷💪
@TheSavageGarage
@TheSavageGarage 6 лет назад
Oh god a plastic torx bolt, the thought of it makes me cringe!
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 6 лет назад
The Savage Garage yup. Money saving I guess.
@Ownz1982
@Ownz1982 3 года назад
Savage love your channel
@BobaFettOnMoped
@BobaFettOnMoped 5 лет назад
Thanks for this video, plan on raising a 405 and this is going to be super helpful.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
No worries, I'll be honest, never done a 405.... But hope you don't have too many issues with it! Thanks for watching and commenting 😊
@nathancadman1055
@nathancadman1055 5 лет назад
I watched both yours and Darren lobb's videos, darrens video made me scared, yours was so much simpler, I think mainly because of the video quality to be fair, I guess that's how much technology has advanced in 7 years 😂
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
Darren knows his stuff better than anyone I know regards 306s... I'd love to collaborate and do all the filming and audio for him, the tutorials would have quality all round then. Thanks for watching and commenting 👌🐷💪
@nathancadman1055
@nathancadman1055 5 лет назад
Yeah Darren definitely knows his stuff there's no doubt about that, yours is a better quality so it's a lot easier to follow overall
@ReinierRuneScape
@ReinierRuneScape 9 месяцев назад
Thanks man for taking the time to make this video, helps me
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 9 месяцев назад
Glad to help 👍🐷
@philgoodson2803
@philgoodson2803 4 года назад
Takes me back to about 1990 when I lowered my 405 Mi16 by 30mm. Happy days.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
You need to relive them 😂👌
@TurdwinMcGee
@TurdwinMcGee 4 года назад
Didn't noticed you posted this, still need to lower my 206 so this will be very helpful! Thanks
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
No worries, they are a slightly different design, be aware of that 👍
@chrisstrong2862
@chrisstrong2862 2 года назад
Great video! I'll be tackling this job on my 205 1.9 xud turbo in the coming weeks. That plastic torx bolt fills me with dread though! Wish me luck 🙏 😅
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
If a plastic torx fills you with dread... I'd not attack the job. 🤣🙈 That's the easy bit! Although I'd always suggest having replacements. Then you can just tear it out if it's mauled up 👌🐷
@RCNETOFFICIAL
@RCNETOFFICIAL 6 лет назад
finally a video for lower
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 6 лет назад
Constantine t Darren Lobb does a guide also, and tbh, I think it's better esp as he knows much more than me... But people kept asking for me to do one. So, giving the people what they want
@maxautouk
@maxautouk 6 лет назад
Guide quality is up there
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
Thanks
@NeilWhittaker
@NeilWhittaker 5 лет назад
Great video, well done. This is a massive help.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
Thanks! Glad it is 👍 🐷💪 Please subscribe!
@filipsalapa
@filipsalapa 6 лет назад
1:51 I giggled like a little girl, lol
@jamesmcbride6304
@jamesmcbride6304 Год назад
Great explanation well thought out
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower Год назад
Thanks 🐷👌
@Bjyrgen666
@Bjyrgen666 4 года назад
Really great video! Will be tons of help when lowering my berlingo! Only thing that could be better would be cancelling out the background noise!
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
The chirping? Haha.... They are my friends 🙈😂 🐷💪
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
Please subscribe and tell everybody about this amazing video with annoying background noise 👍
@vanderdetails.detailing.
@vanderdetails.detailing. 3 года назад
I did I thanks for the great vid, I have a new axel so it was a bit easier. On the 206 is easier than on the car u have i think?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
No different really. Both need the shafts pulling. When they are rebuilt they are 100000x easier than old and rusty! Well done 👍👍👍🐷💪
@999hicks2
@999hicks2 Год назад
amazing detail . so good.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower Год назад
Thanks 👍👍🐷
@how_leon_rolls5869
@how_leon_rolls5869 2 дня назад
Hey Piggy. Ive got a 206cc and noticed they are a tad different with the sway bar plates. I dont have any bolts covered by the plates. Do i still need to remove one or both of the sway bar plates to remove tension or can i just remove the dampers and the torsion bar? Thank you 😊
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 дня назад
You will want to remove the anti roll bar for sure. It holds tension between the two sides.
@how_leon_rolls5869
@how_leon_rolls5869 2 дня назад
@@PiggyPower awesome!! Thanks man
@lewiscox884
@lewiscox884 5 лет назад
Excellent guide., thank you
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
No worries! 👌
@vanderdetails.detailing.
@vanderdetails.detailing. 4 года назад
Hello, could you make a vid how to create the tool u use at the end to pull the torsion out? I have everything ready but can't get the torsion bar out :-( HELP NEEDED
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
Knock the arms off. Smack with hammer 👌
@vanderdetails.detailing.
@vanderdetails.detailing. 4 года назад
@@PiggyPower yes did that sledgehammer but no result what so ever. 😔
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
Need bigger hammer and bigger swing. If you have removed all the bolts and washers it will come apart. If a big hammer isn't doing it...no little puller will!
@pugstatic9683
@pugstatic9683 Год назад
Perfect video! It's was wery helpfull!! Thank u so much!
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower Год назад
No worries! Hopefully your pug won't be static for long 😉👍🐷
@wegiveyouthebass
@wegiveyouthebass 4 года назад
Very helpful video but i have a question. So i don't need to remove the middle torsion bar? Only the side ones? Get the high i want the put the torsion bars back and done ???
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
No you don't but you need to undo the tear drop like tabs on either end of the middle "torsion bar", actually the anti roll bar, so you can move the arms independent of the anti roll bar 👌🐷💪
@adburgt618
@adburgt618 4 года назад
Nice work! Great video.. Thanks a lot.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
No worries and thanks!! Please consider subscribing 😁🐷💪
@arilsondebritooliveira1088
@arilsondebritooliveira1088 4 года назад
Olá! Companheiro! I am from Brazil, i have an Citroen Xsara 98, your video help me adjust the height of my car, Thank you very much.!
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
Awesome!! Don't see many Xsaras around in the UK anymore.
@maizemaize1065
@maizemaize1065 6 лет назад
Piggy Power, please tell me about Peugeot 206, the rear axel (torsion). Which model is best for sports? Red or Black, 19.3mm or 19.7mm diametre, are there any other types originally built in Peugeot? Who is the hardest?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 6 лет назад
Maize Maize as far as OEM axles go, the GTi180 is the firmers and sportiest
@tsilfidis1996
@tsilfidis1996 24 дня назад
dem rims tho!!! 10/10
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 23 дня назад
Yeah I did like them. I didn't like cleaning them though
@tsilfidis1996
@tsilfidis1996 23 дня назад
@@PiggyPower hahaha true!
@hadriansmith6400
@hadriansmith6400 4 года назад
Thanks very much. I did an old vw beetle once and I had to fiddle as well
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
Yeah same idea, VW bus is the same and few other things... Lots of old American stuff has the TBs too
@ivachivach7146
@ivachivach7146 Год назад
Suuuuper video. Massive help. similar axle on My SAXO. Thanks a lot !!!!!!!!!!
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower Год назад
No worries glad it helps, yeah basic principles of this TB axle apply to your saxo 👍🐷
@ivachivach7146
@ivachivach7146 Год назад
@@PiggyPower job done . It took me approx 3 hours
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower Год назад
@@ivachivach7146 good effort
@omerdarshani5022
@omerdarshani5022 Год назад
on a peugeot 206 there are 2 torseion bars. do I need to take only one out? or each torsion bar is for each arm ?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower Год назад
Same as this car in the video, all have 3. One per side and one as an ARB. (Some base spec vans I think didn't have an arb)
@omerdarshani5022
@omerdarshani5022 Год назад
@@PiggyPower I see. Appreciate it man thanka for replying
@OldTwitTalksCars
@OldTwitTalksCars 4 года назад
Great video really helpful. They don't make it easy do they? I need to drop the back of my 306 Cab but having seen this perhaps I'll resort to the "bag of sand in the boot" method! :-)
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
It is free though, and you can adjust to whatever height you want...so no limited by 30mm or 60mm springs. . . Just be ready with time and patience and much tea 👌👍😁
@NeboFilms
@NeboFilms 4 года назад
Can you lift the rear suspension with this method say 3" higher than stock? Or will the shock absorber prevent it going any higher? Thanks
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
Yeah you can, you'd need to be cautious about damper length indeed.
@NeboFilms
@NeboFilms 4 года назад
@@PiggyPower Thanks man, I'm building a Peugeot 106 off roader haha! I think I'm going to leave the torsion bars alone and just build spacers to bolt on above the rear axle mounts!
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
You could raise it a bit... I would... Plus add spacers. I've been wanting to do similar with a 306 for a long time!
@vanderdetails.detailing.
@vanderdetails.detailing. 4 года назад
Sorry forgot to mention It's on a 206 GTI 2001
@JovanKorica1
@JovanKorica1 2 года назад
if im lowering it (thinking to use a xsara vts bar), which shock absorbers would you recommend? ideally some stiffer ones than standard
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
Bilstein or spax.
@derekga6973
@derekga6973 3 года назад
I’m lowering my Peugeot at the minute, the problem I’m having is when I adjust it one side is 15mm lower than the other, if I adjust it up or find a notch it puts it an inch or more out, Is there way of making fine adjustments to balance the height, your help would be much appreciated as I’ve been at this a few times now and can’t figure it
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
Yes, do it the way I'm showing you in this video. You're trying to do it the "Nik" method which is the bodge way... One spline as a time. Notice, I don't do that here. I'm removing the torsion bar from both ends, adjusting and then refitting ... 👍😜
@FlippinDutchRc
@FlippinDutchRc 2 года назад
Nice vid 👍 How long ore how mutch time u need for doing this. No garage here wants to do it so going to do it in front of my home on the street 😄😊😇
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
If you've never done it before and the axle looks like it's never been apart...allow a weekend and have a backup plan for Monday transport!
@adrianshipton5566
@adrianshipton5566 5 месяцев назад
Hello piggy power I've got a question for you hopefully you can help me out,I've got a Peugeot partner van 63plate will the front seats out of a Peugeot 207cc 08plate fit in my van. Grunt grunt!!!!!! I love your videos.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 месяцев назад
Very very unlikely to bolt in... But anything is possible with skill and money
@adrianshipton5566
@adrianshipton5566 5 месяцев назад
@@PiggyPower thankyou piggy power much appreciated for your reply grunt grunt!!!!!!!
@ToffeenoseToffee
@ToffeenoseToffee 2 года назад
Awesome help 👍
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
Glad it helped
@oscarzt1652
@oscarzt1652 4 года назад
do you know where is possible to get a replacement eccentric washer? and what might be a suitable alternative to that plastic torq bolt?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
Yes, both stainless replacements from axles by Stef, look him up on Facebook 👍🐷💪
@Mexxx65
@Mexxx65 Год назад
So .. on these 306s each wheel is connected to its own torsion bar.twist bar (1 each side). Are they connected together in anyway?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower Год назад
Yes, ARB. But you're right, independent suspension at the front AND rear. 👍🐷
@Mexxx65
@Mexxx65 Год назад
@@PiggyPower I've watched a few of your other videos. Is the rear suspension of the 306 the same or different to that on the 206?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower Год назад
@@Mexxx65 both 😜😂
@gs8282
@gs8282 2 года назад
Thanks. I have Renault clio mk1 1995. 1.2. And I want lower my car. But not to much. So I need buy shock absorber or my one original will be good?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
Up to 30mm seems to be the rule of thumb for stock dampers
@gs8282
@gs8282 2 года назад
@@PiggyPower okay. What about front shock springs. I can cut 30mm or what ?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
@@gs8282 never ever ever cut springs!!!!!
@gs8282
@gs8282 2 года назад
@@PiggyPower okay. I understand. Thanks
@jameslacey2171
@jameslacey2171 3 года назад
I've watched this video about 8 times now, but still no more confident in doing it myself! My rear is too low for my liking, bought a refurbished axle and it was dropped 40mm, so I want to raise it by about 25mm so I can put my 20mm spacers back on.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
A refurbed axle is a dream to do. Everything greased and not seized! Give ya self a weekend. Get some tea ready and do it step by step.
@jameslacey2171
@jameslacey2171 3 года назад
@@PiggyPower I've never done an axle or torsion bar before, and it's on my daily, so if I fark it up then I'm doomed!
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
If you'd done it before...you wouldn't need a RU-vid guide 😜 you're not alone! Everyone does something for the first time. . . Like I say, you've got little to worry about considering its a rebuilt axle. Seized parts is the massive problem with these when they are old. Prepare for a weekend. Have a mate round for a bit too. Take each step carefully. You'll be fine. Or pay me £100 and I'll do it 😜🙈👍🤪
@jameslacey2171
@jameslacey2171 3 года назад
@@PiggyPower I'll haggle a bit, £95, some teabags (to which I'll turn into lovely brews all day long) and a pack of custard creams?! 😄 I might take you up on that, because I can see me making a right shitshow of it myself!
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
Where are you?
@curtisbrien5256
@curtisbrien5256 4 года назад
Hi piggy, looking to buy a 205 this weekend and this will be first thing I do. I'm a mechanic and have lowered lots of cars but never a torsion set up. How different is a 205 compared to your vid or same? I dont wanna go mad on it looking at 40mm drop on front springs then rear to match. Is it as clear cut as 40mm springs on front measure the 40mm on the rear and will sit straight down the side afterwards? I dont have GTI money when buying the car so will be either a 1.6 petrol base model or 1.8 diesel model. Is there anything you can think of I will need in advance before its lowered, part wise, to replace or upgrade on the suspension while I'm there as I only intend to do it once, and will the standard shocks be ok on the 40mm drop? Thanks mate and keep it up liked and subscribed.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
Standard shocks will be fine... But could be worn out due to age... It's very similar in principle to the 306 setup. I'm 90% sure 306 shocks fit the 205 if needing replacements... Look for a nice diesel version and then upgrade layer in time to the 1.9xud turbo lump...dirt cheap, massive upgrade... Message the channel if want more info on it 👍 Have fun 🐷💪👌
@curtisbrien5256
@curtisbrien5256 4 года назад
@@PiggyPower thanks alot piggy looking at a 1.8 non turbo diesel this weekend the engine you mentioned is that from a 205 or other pug?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
The epic 1.9xud turbo is from 306s, ZXs, xantias, 406s etc etc... Fits neat in those. With a little tweak to the fuel pumps you get 120-130bhp. Goes well!
@curtisbrien5256
@curtisbrien5256 4 года назад
@@PiggyPower thankyou for the information I'll get the car and then look for a low mileage one
@iwannabeyourdog90
@iwannabeyourdog90 10 месяцев назад
Does this also work for my Bugatti Chiron?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 10 месяцев назад
If you've got the Lego Chiron, it does have torsion bars, so yes. ,👍🐷
@runeviking5770
@runeviking5770 5 лет назад
I'm new to this channel, I subbed after I saw the quality of the video and you making it easy to do yourself. I just wanted to add this: I have a problem with my rear axle I guess, my car sits low on rear end and one wheel is cambered negative, ride quality isn't the best. Now, do I have to replace the entire axle or just bushings and this torsion bar? I'd really love to hear that it doesn't cost much, as the entire unit costs around 200€ used and new one is even more expensive (no dampers/shocks and springs included). 2003 Peugeot 206 it is. If anyone knows solution to this and has info, I'd be more than thankful for it.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
Thanks for subscribing 👍👌 You need a new rear axle. The bearings will be too far gone for just replacing as they will have worn the tube. Second hand ones are a gamble but can be purchased for £50-£150. Rebuilt replacements £200-250 (via eBay) I have a video on how to remove and fit one on a 206 on this channel. 🐷💪
@runeviking5770
@runeviking5770 5 лет назад
@@PiggyPower Thanks for replying, I just checked prices and used rear axle is 150€ at the lowest, going up to 200€ at most. I'm from south part of Europe so that's why you see euros. It sucks having to replace the entire unit... I estimated all costs and I need to put in 500€ worth of parts to make my car sort of top notch. I payed 1450€ for it. Is it worth? I intended to keep it as it's engine was very well maintained, but it has just a little over 300 000 km on it. That's like 190 000 miles approximately, right? What are your thoughts?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
Well, €500 and you have a top notch car. €0 spent and you will soon have to scrap your car. 🤔 Second hand units are a gamble often especially at this age now. But I've gambled due to cost... But it has bitten me twice with totaly junk axles when the seller said they were good. It's your call 👌🐷💪
@runeviking5770
@runeviking5770 5 лет назад
@@PiggyPower I'll put those 500 in it, then. Interior-wise car is pristine, just needs cleaning up, only some rust on exhaust muffler and left side skirt (about 10 cm wide, not deep). Thanks for providing me information on it, it really helps. :)
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
No worries! All the best 👌🐷💪
@stelastrize1231
@stelastrize1231 5 лет назад
Please do a video on how to lower Peugeot 206, please!
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
Almost identical in principle and parts 👍 just take your time and allow a weekend to attack it 👍 Thanks for watching and commenting 🐷💪
@cmrms8422
@cmrms8422 3 года назад
Hi Piggy, Rozlan from Malaysia. May I know the ideal measurement to lower rear and front. By the way, I m driving Citroen xsara 1. Thanks
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
Hi Rozlan! Amazing to hear where people are from...it's very humbling to have people watching and commenting from such amazing countries! The ideal measurement is like asking what's the best colour... It's subjective. . . Each person's opinion is different. ☺️👍🐷💪
@xRedLyn
@xRedLyn 5 лет назад
I thougt it was springs back aswell i were looking for lowering springs.. Haha, so this is the only way to lower the car then? Not looking to easy :/
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
It all depends... Once an axle has had the plates and bars removed once and all greased up, it's actually quite easy. It's when things are seized that this becomes a real issue. But rear suspension with no maintenance for often 100k + miles isn't too bad considering. Have fun 😉🐷💪
@xRedLyn
@xRedLyn 5 лет назад
@@PiggyPower Thank you, i will give it a try then :D
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
Have fun! Plan for the worst.... Have time in hand 👌
@anoniem1445
@anoniem1445 2 года назад
What name is that thing that you use to pull the torsion bar out
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
A custom tool. Slide hammer or make you're own 👍🐷
@-np3sf
@-np3sf 4 года назад
is it necesery to remove the anti roll bar plate..to lower the car? If you undo only the front bolts of the anti roll plate that holds on the arm..does the anti roll bar with the plates move freelly or..you do that becouse you want to change the anti roll bar..?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
You can just undo the plate from the arm, but the rubber seals will often hold it in place, giving misleading measurements AND if you twist the old seal inside there, you will likely damage it and thus leave the insides/bearings exposed to moisture/the outside environment 👌🐷💪
@-np3sf
@-np3sf 4 года назад
@@PiggyPower So it can be done..but you suggest to take it off..!Thanks for your quick answer..keep up the good work!
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
No worries, I always like to remove to inspect the inside. Subscribe if you feel it helped a bit 👍😁🐷💪
@95dannyboy
@95dannyboy 2 года назад
Where can I find that tool you use to pull the torsion bar out?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
It was made! Slide hammer or make your own
@jenshansen6895
@jenshansen6895 3 года назад
Very fine video thank you very much,. Used it with fine result. But one problem. The 2 pcs 8 mm bolt (13 mm head) holding the handbrake cable and antiroll bar, keep on loosens itself after 2-3 days. I cant figure out why. Do you have a solution ?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
Threadlock.
@MrJafar97
@MrJafar97 4 года назад
Hello I have Peugeot 405 1993 and I want to know something Assume when the car is fully loaded it becomes lower than normal by 20 cm If I lower the torsion bar will it still lower 20 cm when fully loaded or the torsion bar become stiffer like lowering coil spring? Thank U
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
Remember you are adjusting the trailing arm relative to the torsion bar. So if you follow this guide and lower it by 5cm, it will be 5cm lower when on the ground. 👍
@MrJafar97
@MrJafar97 4 года назад
Piggy Power I understood that But I want to know if the torsion bar gets stiffer or stay the same
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
Again, all you are doing is adjusting the position of the arm relative to the torsion bar. You are not changing the chemical composition or thickness of the torsion bar 🙈
@MrJafar97
@MrJafar97 4 года назад
Piggy Power Hahahaha I understood this sir So if I lower it and have fully loaded trunk it’ll hit the ground Thank U so much
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
1) depends how much you lower it 2) it will hit bump stops first I imagine
@adrianhandleyable
@adrianhandleyable 2 года назад
awesome video i am looking for an insight into renault kangoo mk 1 it may help me . cheers
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
I've been asked about these funnily enough... Need to take a look in person
@adrianhandleyable
@adrianhandleyable 2 года назад
​@@PiggyPower I’ve been under the kangoo this week. It seems similar yet slightly different there are two shafts for each side of the vehicle they meet in the middle, the rear shaft I believe is the anti roll bar and the front shaft would be the torsion suspension bar. I think when we get a dry couple of days I will attempt a lift like yours only 25 to 30 mills nothing mad.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
@@adrianhandleyable aye that's right, like the early Clios. One short shaft per side that sit inside the tube (torsion bars)... And the outer is the ARB that links both arms
@nbdcbn
@nbdcbn 5 лет назад
What wheel you got on the peugeot? looks lovely
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
Thanks! Check out the Project videos... I do a whole video on these epic wheels! ☺️👍 🐷💪
@franciscowitt6255
@franciscowitt6255 11 месяцев назад
Show de aula.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 11 месяцев назад
Thanks
@how_leon_rolls5869
@how_leon_rolls5869 11 месяцев назад
So do u have to do each side individually? One torsion bar for one side and another torsion bar for the other? I have a peugeot 206cc.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 11 месяцев назад
Yes, independent suspension 👍👍🐷
@anoniem1445
@anoniem1445 Год назад
So you’re only pulling out one torsionbar?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower Год назад
Per side ... One bar does one side. One does the other. The third connects both and is the ARB
@VBYT7740
@VBYT7740 4 года назад
How many millimeters would u classify as an individual nick? Or is a nick each spline you go round on the torsion bar?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
Nick's are the splines in the TB... Hence it's bodge.
@VBYT7740
@VBYT7740 4 года назад
@@PiggyPower cheers boy. I was told if the police pull me i can be done for having my car lowered, care to shed any light?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
You could also be pulled over for a general documents check. Nothing illegal about that. If you have not declared the modification to your insurers, it is illegal as your insurance would be invalid. If you lower it to the extent where there is no longer any travel in the suspension or a wheel/tyre fouls the bodywork when turned or suspension compressed, also illegal. However... I would also claim you are being negligent if any of the above applied to you!! Stay safe, stay legal, stay happy. 👍👌🐷💪
@VBYT7740
@VBYT7740 4 года назад
@@PiggyPower thanks piggy. Really informative
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
No trouble 👍🐷💪
@markjones116
@markjones116 3 года назад
Very informative. I want to raise my Kangoo van. Well did lol sudden change of heart now unless you can do it?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
I would first ask... Why? And if raising the rear, what will you do with the front?
@markjones116
@markjones116 3 года назад
@@PiggyPower I don't have the Patience for bolts that may round off lol. My Kangoo carry 400kg and sits a bit low (window cleaner) so want to jack it up a little even lowish when empty making towing my half a van trailer look odd. ;-) you fancy a challenge?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
@@markjones116 ahh interesting... I tow a trailer for my reach and wash, I do a little still ... Whereabouts are you? If you're not local, I may know someone local to you
@markjones116
@markjones116 3 года назад
@@PiggyPower I am based in Gloucestershire where you based?
@markjones116
@markjones116 3 года назад
Here is my page your see a photo of my van with trailer at the top Facebook.com/forestexteriorcleaning
@itsobj5013
@itsobj5013 4 года назад
Could this method be used on peugeot 206 1.1 5d 2002? Cheers
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
Yes, same principle... The bearings are in the trailing arms on the 206, so be cautious
@glcnmtnglcnmtn342
@glcnmtnglcnmtn342 2 года назад
Hi is it the same for peugeot 407 sedan
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
Totally different chassis
@calumward1192
@calumward1192 3 года назад
oh i do like a bit of COPPERY GOODNESSSSSSSSSSS
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
Me too!
@sayerma
@sayerma 4 года назад
Hello mate, really enjoyed the vid. I have a series 2 405 mi16 that I want to lower and in my home city there are a few good long-standing Pug workshops. Realistically how long would this take an experienced Pug mechanic to do? I don't want to be lead down the garden path! Many thanks
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
An old axle that's never been apart...likely needs a full rebuilt to be honest. So could easily be a day or more. If it's a newish axle, couple of hours for a oro
@Wangsian199
@Wangsian199 5 лет назад
Do you have to remove the shocks when doing it?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
See the video...! I do mention this 😋😉
@karelnekula894
@karelnekula894 5 лет назад
how to make a torsion puller please? i from cze i dont know, thank.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
You could just hammer them off as mentioned or use a slide hammer too... But the little tool is just washers, sleeve and some different sized threaded bolts. It will ONLY work in my opinion on torsion bars that are greased up though 👍
@Biohazard667Productions
@Biohazard667Productions 6 лет назад
really good video man! basicly the same as a 205 rear axle
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 6 лет назад
indeed :) and a ZX, xsara, 206, 106 etc etc
@MCsMRBONE
@MCsMRBONE 5 лет назад
@@PiggyPower Does a Saxo has the same axle? And like you mentioned at the end, how many hours should I plan for it? 5-7? Is that realistic?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
@@MCsMRBONE yeah very similar ... If the axle is unknown, prepare for 7/8hrs yes... Bit be prepared that the bearings may fall apart or be totally goosed... So don't expect to be driving it the next morning for work etc. ...just in case 👍
@MCsMRBONE
@MCsMRBONE 5 лет назад
@@PiggyPower Okay I'll keep that in mind, many thanks for replying! 👍
@syroboi3524
@syroboi3524 4 года назад
1:10 is that BMW M20 head bolt?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
HDi 👍
@CoyoteRacingLLC
@CoyoteRacingLLC 6 лет назад
Wait I am so confused what happened to the racetracker i saw the video but why is it gone.
@ben12801
@ben12801 6 лет назад
Coyote The Gamer a guy working on his roof dropped a tile on the roof of the car, and he wrote it off as a result
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 6 лет назад
ben12801 insurance wrote it off when a number of tiles slid off and caused damage to nearly all the panels on the Racetractor. As I was switching to the Lemon soon anyway... I didn't have the circumstances to reshell or fix it cheap. Sad times.
@ben12801
@ben12801 6 лет назад
Piggy Power yeah fair enough I’m not sure how I would have reacted as well, at least you’ve learnt loads out of it and I’m sure you’ll be more satisfied with the 16v build. The content you produce is great by the way keep it up!
@CoyoteRacingLLC
@CoyoteRacingLLC 6 лет назад
Piggy Power dang I feel so bad because if check my videos out I am doing the same thing with my vw mk4 golf and seeing this happen. Is terrible but you learn from experience and can make a better car.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 6 лет назад
ben12801 thank you 👍🐷
@vs6300
@vs6300 3 года назад
Does lowering affect rear alignment? I had this argument with someone - inconclusive. I lowered my van Peugeot Partner by an inch so that it looks level, though I have to replace axle coz I never replaced the bearings (in 400k kms, my bad), I have found a Peugeot 405 axle with disc brakes I intend to fit and lower and inch.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
Depending on how much castor, camber and toe you had before .... It will affect them. 👍
@vs6300
@vs6300 3 года назад
@@PiggyPower I never measured tbh, will do so after axle fitted and get back to you.
@nickstormink3238
@nickstormink3238 4 года назад
106 same Works?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
Very similar principles yup
@TheGaudentius
@TheGaudentius Год назад
19:07 can we just eat that sheep?! 🤣🤣
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower Год назад
Sorry,I'm vegan 😂👌🐷
@ollieducker6899
@ollieducker6899 5 лет назад
Will this work the exact same as this in a 2006 1.4 206
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
Very similar yes. All parts and principles almost the same. Word of caution, the 206 bearings are slightly different and if you have to remove the arms, the bearings sit in the arms and can be fragile at this age. So if the axle isn't playing ball in coming apart, prepare for tired/worn out bearings. Hope that helps a bit 👍 🐷💪 (Please subscribe!)
@IOUaUsername
@IOUaUsername 5 лет назад
@@PiggyPower The bearings in the 206 aren't always the same size either. I tried rebuilding the axle on my '99 206 GTi, found the bearing surfaces were beyond repair and bought a 2004 206 GTi 180 axle. Totally different sizes on the bearing, so I guess they changed it (probably in 2001 when they went from 15" wheels to 16", added CANBUS, traction/stability control etc).
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
@@IOUaUsername the gti180/SW axles all have a bigger bearing one side to the other. All the other axles are the same size bearings both sides 👌
@I7G
@I7G 6 лет назад
Thanks bud did you link the other video you mentioned in the beginning?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 6 лет назад
babybaby I thought I did on the top right corner ... If not.. just search Darren Lobb
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 6 лет назад
now added link in description :)
@yukselmaxasmr
@yukselmaxasmr 2 года назад
have one question my car heater it not heating properly peugeot 306 1.6 automatic year 2000 and I changed thermostat what can be the other reason not heating do I have to flush heater core but when ever driving blows warm enough but when ever car not moving and engine on it not good enough warm
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
Are the heater hoses hot going in and out? Is the fan operating on all speeds?
@yukselmaxasmr
@yukselmaxasmr 2 года назад
@@PiggyPower there is running hot water but when I touch hoses they are not that much hot , they are warm .
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
@@yukselmaxasmr hose should be hot to the touch, especially the one from engine to matrix. does engine get up to temperature?
@yukselmaxasmr
@yukselmaxasmr 2 года назад
@@PiggyPower yes engine temperature fine
@vanderdetails.detailing.
@vanderdetails.detailing. 4 года назад
does it work the same on a 206 GTI?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
Very similar. 👍
@vanderdetails.detailing.
@vanderdetails.detailing. 4 года назад
@@PiggyPower oke i wil have a go then on my 206 to lower the rear end. Wish me luck :-)
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
Just be ready that you may need to knock the trailing arms off and may find you need new bearings. 👍
@vanderdetails.detailing.
@vanderdetails.detailing. 4 года назад
@@PiggyPower oke ill keep that in mind
@MCsMRBONE
@MCsMRBONE 5 лет назад
I wanna lower my Citroen Saxo (about 50-60mm) do i need a strut brace?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
To lower it... No. As you can see, I lowered mine without using a strut brace 👌🤣
@MCsMRBONE
@MCsMRBONE 5 лет назад
@@PiggyPower Okay thanks Form replying! So there's not the chance to deform my frame/body?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
That depends on 1000 variables! Has it ever been damaged, is all the chassis straight to start with, is all the suspension components like new, is it being lowered properly, is it used as a rally car etc etc. Simply lowering a vehicle won't bend a chassis 👍
@ufcww529
@ufcww529 4 года назад
Information from the Stabiliser Disassembly Tool is required Please help me. I couldn't find it on eBay. I'm not working. My car is 206 rc I need information on special tools. Help me.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
What tool are you after? I've not heard of such a tool you are describing. There aren't any specialist tools on the market for taking these axles apart. 🐷💪
@ufcww529
@ufcww529 4 года назад
Piggy Power sorry I can't understand your voice because I'm not good at English. The rear of my car is too low. There's interference. I want to increase it. But the size of the screws for disassembly I don't know. How many millimeters of disassembly screws were used?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
There is still some information lost in translation... But I suggest remove all bolts and nuts and end plates and use a big hammer. Be prepared for bearings to be in a bad condition. Stay safe
@ufcww529
@ufcww529 4 года назад
@@PiggyPower Thank you.~!
@Ownz1982
@Ownz1982 3 года назад
Dang the birds good vid tho
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
Yes. Those. Birds. Grrr
@SuperMasood123
@SuperMasood123 5 лет назад
Hi i have citroen xsara picasso can you make video please ?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
About what?
@superbike9191
@superbike9191 5 лет назад
Big video bro tanks ☺
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
No worries! Thanks for watching and commenting ... Love it if you smashed that subscribe button too 🐷💪
@timallendorfer3522
@timallendorfer3522 Год назад
How long do you need for this
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower Год назад
How long do I need what for?!
@timallendorfer3522
@timallendorfer3522 Год назад
@@PiggyPower The whole for lowering
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower Год назад
@@timallendorfer3522 I still don't have a clue what you're asking about? 🙈
@dutchjoey6494
@dutchjoey6494 5 лет назад
Why no before and after view?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
Hi there Joey, would you have liked to see a certain height before/after? Because each car is different, and this being a guide, its very personal/subjective... IE I would want a 20mm drop and you want a 50mm. I am on these mad 17" wheels, you are on mad 15" wheels... Lots of before/after shots on Instagram of this car and others before/after lowering if it's just curiosity .. ? Thanks for watching and commenting though 👍 🐷💪
@leetaylor6255
@leetaylor6255 3 года назад
Will this method drop as low as the nick method ?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
Lower if you set it lower....!? But then, that depends on how many "nicks" you set it at... which also depends on which side you measure as it won't be even both sides .... Or is this trolltastic Friday!?
@leetaylor6255
@leetaylor6255 3 года назад
No trolling I only know the nick method and always have had someone do it for me but I think I'm buying an xsara coupe and will be lowering it myself, 4 nicks as I'm slamming it on it arse but the way you done it looks much better so I want to know will it still go as low doing it your way as to having it dropped 4 nicks, I'm sure it was 40mm a nick ?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
This is the problem with the nick method aka the total rubbish bodge method... You don't know how much a nick is .... Hence why you need to remove the torsion bar. I'll be totally honest with you... I know it's all a matter of taste... But... If you intend to lower it 100mm+... You'll be on the bump stops. Which is dangerous. Really dangerous. Please modify safely 👍
@tractorhead971
@tractorhead971 3 года назад
Is it possible to narrow a 306 axle???
@tractorhead971
@tractorhead971 3 года назад
Or is there a narrower axle that’ll fit? 106? It’s for a project so body rub won’t be an issue btw.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
Narrow in what way? Body rub would be an issue as the wheels wouldnt turn?!
@tractorhead971
@tractorhead971 3 года назад
Its a project without any body above so nothing to rub on. Need to tuck the width in a few inches if possible... 😬
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
But.... There is the chassis ... That's what would rub if you went narrower... You could try narrower wheels. But you can't go IN the arch... You get to the chassis... Which is where the axle is bolted to... Go have a look lol
@tractorhead971
@tractorhead971 3 года назад
Ah yes, I should explain better, the project car won’t have 306 bodywork so chassis rubbing isn’t an issue. I’d like to use a narrowed 306 axle but I assume the torsion bars are the length they are and that’s that, or can it be done? Hmmm
@MrRafaviana20
@MrRafaviana20 3 года назад
hey can you show the exact jacking points?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
Same place as they are on 98.6% of all monocoque chassis cars these days .. two reinforced sections per sill. Check your user manual if not sure.
@MrRafaviana20
@MrRafaviana20 3 года назад
@@PiggyPower my user manual just show the side points... i have a 306 hdi too, and i need those side points for the jack stands, i need to know where to put the jack
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
Those are the jacking points. I wouldn't use those for axle stands. I'd use the axle or the subframe for axle stands
@MrRafaviana20
@MrRafaviana20 3 года назад
@@PiggyPower but you're using those for Jack stands in the video mate 😅 can you give you ig or something else for us to speak with images? 😅 Thank you
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
Yes, because I'm working on the axle. Need to switch once raised. If you using the axle or removing a subframe, obviously need to be adaptable
@jeancharlesrabaux5658
@jeancharlesrabaux5658 2 года назад
Y love it is cars yes peugeot soo good cars frenchy boys bye
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
That's an amazing Google translation 🤣👍👍👍👍🐷
@jeancharlesrabaux5658
@jeancharlesrabaux5658 2 года назад
@@PiggyPower sorie no speak english just verie leteel ok bye boys
@glen3468
@glen3468 2 года назад
is it possible for you to make me a tool up for torsion bar? obviously for a penny or t2 :)
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
I bought this tool tbh. It's nice quality. Not sure I could replicate it without quite an expense as I don't have the bolts/nuts/materials of that size/material kicking around. Slide hammer will do nicely, £30-40 for a decent hefty one 👌
@glen3468
@glen3468 2 года назад
@@PiggyPower thanks bud
@adycoupland3090
@adycoupland3090 3 года назад
Anyone in Lincolnshire that can do this for my 306 Estate?
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
Not that I know of, sorry
@thevikingoli8847
@thevikingoli8847 3 года назад
I raised my car I love to do the opposite 😂😂
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
On purpose 🤔
@jasonwade1458
@jasonwade1458 2 года назад
Will there will there 5 stud wheels from an Audi A4 fit onto the Peugeot 206 if you get low profile tyres
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
Think about this.... How many studs does your 206 have
@jasonwade1458
@jasonwade1458 2 года назад
@@PiggyPower 5 stood pal
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
@@jasonwade1458 go count again 😆
@jasonwade1458
@jasonwade1458 2 года назад
@@PiggyPower lol , 😂😆😂 I was looking at the a hubcap,
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 2 года назад
@@jasonwade1458 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
@harryrammer
@harryrammer 3 года назад
I thought the “citroen several pens” was fiction!
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
Eh? 🤔
@harryrammer
@harryrammer 3 года назад
@@PiggyPower ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UmIHUVd70FQ.html
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 3 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@BillCarrIpswich
@BillCarrIpswich 6 лет назад
20:35 Vascular
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 6 лет назад
Bill confused ... ?! What do you mean?
@BillCarrIpswich
@BillCarrIpswich 6 лет назад
Piggy Power your arm vein. It's large. Much wrenching.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 6 лет назад
Bill #scrawny
@JordyX8
@JordyX8 4 года назад
What a bunch of over engineered pieces of shit. A whole weekend for just the rear. Was going to lower a friends for him but after watching this nightmare no chance. Why can't they just be a normal spring and strut setup like 99.9% of cars out there.
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 4 года назад
Haha... They are a little more tricky that replacing a set of springs... Many other manufacturers use this setup though and some are returning to it . . . If nothing is dramatically seized... The advantages: They can often last the lifetime of the vehicle = huge saving on parts and labor over the lifetime of ownership Fully independent suspension at the rear of a fwd car .. for a cheap fwd car of the era this was amazing. Fully adjustable height... You can adjust the heigh to within a mm of whatever height you'd like without buying any parts. Downside: it's a right sod to adjust the height. 😂🙈 🐷💪
@jotahdezproduction4724
@jotahdezproduction4724 5 лет назад
How to camber? 🤣
@PiggyPower
@PiggyPower 5 лет назад
Find a dead/damaged/broken axle and fit that 😂🙈👍
@runeviking5770
@runeviking5770 5 лет назад
@@PiggyPower Like mine... I have a huge amount of negative camber on one of my wheels, and my rear end sits very low, 206 later model.. If anyone wants to trade axles, let me know XD. Still trying to get the money to repair that.
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