How to make art that surprises even yourself 

Man..how..do you have 40k samples, are those things youve recorded/downloaded, mix of both? Thats wild

hey hey @@J450N17 I got most of the better known full packs (cymatics, cyclopedia, Sonic academy, along with a lot of other stuff I collected over the years) I should go over them some time and remove some of it, but who wants to go over *checks list* 47265 samples XD For some reason I got an atari-sound pack that basically contains any sound the atari could make, and that's a few 1000 samples on its own. I could prolly get rid of it, but who knows XD < totally not a digital hoarder.

The making of "sample packs" process, as you call it, properly, imo, btw, is a powerful technique. Something I hit upon in the middle of my art/music making journey. I was making stuff that I wasn't happy with... I was making stuff that I didn't even want to make, necessarily. But as I was making a song, I would feel it bending in a direction that I didn't intend, and I have some defect that I must acquiesce to the song, otherwise I feel like a dirty liar, and I just can't cope feeling like that. So, I'd make all these songs I didn't like too much. I was also heavily into sampling at the time. And so, I sort of naturally just started sampling small sections or sub-components of my kinda crappy finished songs... and then I started making stuff I was much happier with. Like, to get my sounds, and fractally up in scale, songs, to the level of nuance, investment, craft, intention... quality to be on par with my peers or the paragons of music that initially inspired me, I had to fully work out parts, sound design them, mix them and even sometimes self master them, to then use those pieces in another song, in an entirely different context...where I'd cut them up, re-sound design them, mix them into the new song, and then the parts were mature enough to hold there own. I wish I could get there in a straight line, without having to make throw away songs in the first place... but I don't have what it takes... the vision, the ear, the attention, or something. Not sure exactly, I think it might be a tree/forest issue. And only in reuse to I start seeing song parts for the new forest they can be. Anyway, man!

One day all these tracks will suddenly get analyzed 😁😁😁

​@@OscarUnderdogGive me a few more weeks and you should have enough for a full blown track analysis course 😁

I do the same. Sometimes I will over build and start removing sounds or chop them up. So much fun.

@@AcidCortex1 I need the first sound to give me an impression, for the inspiration of it all. If anything I will start to tinker once I have 3 or so elements on the go, then I start to develop the track into a structure, adding, removing and tweaking everything, editing I as I go, can’t imagine waiting until I have everything before editing. It’s more of less at this stage that I realise if I really like what I’ve put together, if I do like what’s there I really start to pick at it, especially the percussion elements, I like to make them sound more organic. It takes me a long time to feel like I have a finished track. I like to listen to them every now and then after I’ve finalised them, and I then often realise I could have done this or that to make it better. I’m more or less DAWless, so it gets to a stage where I can only go so far in terms of polishing it up, and I’m limited in experience …think I’d be a nightmare with a DAW 😂

Appreciated 😁🫶🏻 I’ll take that beer!

Yeah its a torc track I’m working on! 👌

@@OscarUnderdog can't wait, it sounds incredible!

In the video, he's in Itaewon, a short walk from Itaewon station. It's a popular area for foreigners hang out in Seoul. Hongdae (Hongik University) is another creative spot. It's mainly an art college... so it has a slightly more arty feel.

@@MNolanMillar Thanks!!

Hahaha yes i am 😁🫶🏻 any clubbing recommendations this weekend?

Dm me on insta as @OscarUnderdog

Just a little something i made while travelling. I’ll probably release it as Torc at some point!

No gigs, but loving club Vurt so far 😯

Whats a corren? Its my brother filming 😊

Thanks for this ☺️❤️

This is for the special people: And let me drop a truth bizomb [sic see next sic for reason for sic all of these sics] for beginners and veterans alike, being an INNOVATOR is what it is ALL about. There are dromes [sic due to the albo controlling the words we can and cannot use], not those flying bizombs drawing every single person on the planet into the destructive throws of World Wer 3, not those sounds that progress infinitely while entrancingly remaining the same, no, DROMES, thoughtless (spiritless, or if you must misuse the word soulless) copiers and reproducers of preexisting forms, thoughts, sounds, etc. And despite all of the abundantly available novel sound creation tools available to everyone today, from free to Bugatti level, MOST PEOPLE (and emerging Eh Eye people as well) ARE DROMES, merely repeating what they've heard. These people are important, they are the (now global) network that distributes NOVELTY to the human population. But they are not individually important, they are collectively important, but no single node in the drome network has any value at all. BUT! GENERATORS OF NOVELTY are INDIVIDUALLY of UTMOST IMPORTANCE. They are the ones who generate the forms, the memes, the fresh material that is so valuable (so much so, I'd call it VITAL, meaning necessary for life) to the human experience, to the human population. It is then up to the dromes, the copiers, the repeaters to distribute that novelty to the human population. But the dromes are worthless, even collectively, if no one is producing novelty. The dromes have nothing to reproduce, and all of humanity starves for new experiences, new sounds, new beats, new rhythms, etc. So, every tutorial, even if it is teaching the fundamentals, should, but don't bend a bit towards inclusion of potential techniques of novelty generation OR at least reinforcement of the idea of the necessity to generate novelty. You CAN create novelty by knowing your sonic/musical ABC's. BUT, almost every tutorial only teaches the ABC's, never instilling the idea that our ultimate goal is not merely to reproduce existing memes, forms, concepts, sounds, rhythms, etc., but to take those preexisting forms and PROGRESS them into something new. What Beaker here is teaching IN THIS VIDEO, is a VERY POWERFUL way to produce novelty, novelty so new, it is novel even to yourself. It is about an entire second layer of the creative process, in fact, a second process in the creation of ART that has been historically proven to generate novelty. Which, after all this, is quite difficult to do, btw, our brains and therefore, minds are designed to copy, meaning learn, that is their core function. That is often why mentally disturbed people are artists. First off, who in their right mind would chose to wander the wastes of failure and obscurity to create something new, especially when every tutorial on YewTub (and every other medium of instruction) is teaching how to stay out of the wastes of the unknown, and to remain on the well tread paths of normalcy. But even further, who in their right mind would live in destitution, their very teeth excruciatingly rotting out of their skull due to a persistent lack of funds to afford dentistry, because novelty is so rare, and true novelty is so truly rare, and so almost everything these wanderers produce has no value, so have nothing to trade for cash, cash vitally needed for life's basic necessities. But beyond the psycho-economic link between mental disturbance and novelty, fundamentally, functionally, if our brains, and therefore minds, are designed to learn, to copy and repeat, only those whose brains OR minds dysfunction in some way, learn incompletely, repeat improperly, and in the process inject new, mutated, forms of the standard memes, or thought forms that are the basis of our culture, and thereby lives. BUT, does that mean that you have to be retarted [sic]... actually meaning slowed in your ability to learn and repeat the standard memes of culture, absent the pejorative meaning, which is, in fact, so profoundly pejorative precisely because EVERYONE is instructed to be a drome, and those who are slow in their learning or repeating of standard forms, of the normal, are so profoundly disrespected, devalued in our and every society... remember that Albert Einstein didn't speak until he was 5 years old, and only then to complain to his mother that his soup was too hot, a true retart indeed, so retarted in his ability to accept, what is charitably called the incomplete, but what would be more accurately called, the false, explanations, understandings, or rational behind how the universe works, that he had to INNOVATE an entirely new way of understanding the seemingly fundamental aspects of reality, including matter, energy, space and time.... NO! You don't have to have an organic or mental defect (but it helps!) to create novelty, but you DO need to interrupt your normal brain/mental function that has been finely tuned and heavily influenced to reproduce the normal, to do the unexpected, to entertain thoughts or sounds that are nonstandard. And one VERY powerful way to do that is to listen to Beaker in this video, and to create without aim, without an apparent purpose or goal as the first process of the total creative endeavor. BUT THEN in a wholly secondary process, to use those seemingly unrelated sounds and forms in new and unique ways, to combine things that do not normally go together. In these abnormal recombinations, new forms WILL be produced, unless you're really, really smart, and are therefore capable of bending everything into the normal. I'd suggest a third process in this creative endeavor.... just because something is novel, does not make it good or useful. You must be the decider. You must evaluate the recombinations that you have made for a degree of relatedness to the normal and therefore good sounding to the normal, aka your novelty must still be accessible, yet different enough not to sound like everything that has come before it, thus being new in some way. This is very difficult, and why those committed or resigned or consigned to the avant-garde, so rarely produce any value for the golden horrme of dromes to repeat, distribute and thereby, normalize. But you've got to create the novelty in the first place, and this video suggests one very useful way of doing that. SO, listen to Beaker, or Oscar, I think his name is, IN THIS VIDEO.

Whoaw my jetlagged brain really vibed with this. Awesome. You can call me beaker if you want 😁🫶🏻

@@OscarUnderdog

I do Techno as Torc but i have no RA profile!