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I experiment with making wooden #screw threads using a tap and die for a leg vise for my #roubo style #workbench. Get 10% off with this link! squarespace.com/darbinorvar Thanks to squarespace for sponsoring this video!
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@Sam-gf1eb
@Sam-gf1eb Год назад
I'm glad I found this video. For some reason, other videos about making wooden threads have to make it so complicated instead of using a tap and die.
@thorlo1278
@thorlo1278 4 года назад
I do not know what it is, but I love your videos better than anyone else. I guess it is because your voice and demeanor is very soothing and you make the subject your speaking so fascinating. Keep up the great work Linn. Two thumbs up!
@darbinorvar
@darbinorvar 4 года назад
Thank you so much!
@stephenshipley1066
@stephenshipley1066 4 года назад
To keep your tap square, try mounting it in your drill press (unplugged) then turning and pressing down slowly.
@vamar3459
@vamar3459 4 года назад
Great effort. I liked how the idea evolved to the second screw which is obviously a lot more practical. Love your videos and the approach. Thanks for sharing your ideas Greetings from Athens, Greece.
@lisajarvis3820
@lisajarvis3820 2 года назад
Need a Tap and Die ~ thread on dowels aren’t made the way I first thought ~ it’s a WAY MORE 😎 METHOD!!
@realsupercopter
@realsupercopter 4 года назад
Can't wait to see the rest of the workbench being made!
@AngleIron426
@AngleIron426 4 года назад
Very informative. I agree with you about the appeal of wooden screws. Would love to see the rest of the build. Thanks!
@hassanal-mosawi6049
@hassanal-mosawi6049 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing that, well done!
@kirkmowery3406
@kirkmowery3406 4 года назад
I love watching a lady working with wood and building things keep up the wonderful videos.
@IEnjoyCreatingVideos
@IEnjoyCreatingVideos 4 года назад
Nice work on making the threads on the wooden bench vise Linn! Thanks for sharing the video with us.👌👍😎JP
@Wildevis
@Wildevis 4 года назад
It was not only satisfying for you to do it, but also to watch it happening. I have always loved to see people working on a lathe and then the tools to make the screw threads were like magic! Cannot wait for the finished project
@darbinorvar
@darbinorvar 4 года назад
Thanks Erika! 🙂
@PeterOConnl
@PeterOConnl 4 года назад
if you increase the spindle speed and 'ride the bevel' of your gouges, you'll cut the wood fibres instead of tear them and get little to no tear out on your pieces. Hope this helps.
@summerswoodworking
@summerswoodworking 4 года назад
Awesome Linn, I always wanted to try this!
@Bashirbros
@Bashirbros 2 года назад
very cool. especially considering for the same price as a tap and die set, you can buy the metal screw and nut to make your own vice. but this way you can make as many screws and nuts as you would want. you should try and make your own tap and die and see how they compare with the purchased set
@TheRaven0811
@TheRaven0811 4 года назад
I have the 3/4" thread box. The screws I made before weren't soaked in oil, and I had some tear out. That's a great tip. Thanks
@darbinorvar
@darbinorvar 4 года назад
Makes a big difference!
@MarkThomas123
@MarkThomas123 8 месяцев назад
You probably know by now, but, you could have made a large barrel long nut, screwed it on and drilled a hole in it for your handle.. To keep the threads straight in your hole, pull the handle out of the Tap, and drill a hole that diameter in a block of wood, and a larger hole inset in the bottom the diameter of the threading tool, and drop it over the tap, clamp it to the surface you are tapping/drilling, and, then start tapping.. Get at least 3-4 threads, then, you can remove your block with a hole the diameter of the shaft to keep it straight and flat to the surface as it goes down into the hole, and a larger diameter for going over the actual male tap threads until the tap gets 3-4 threads in and you are straight... May leave the jig on for 4-5 threads, just in case it wanders.. You will be able to tell after doing one or two.. Just found your channel looking at thread making.. Hope all is well with you. I see you are still making videos.. Keep it up!! Good Luck!
@reforzar
@reforzar 4 года назад
I’ve always wanted to try this. Good stuff.
@mrkrause3
@mrkrause3 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing!
@FredMcIntyre
@FredMcIntyre 4 года назад
Nice work Linn! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
@scotttovey
@scotttovey 4 года назад
Good project Linn. Nice to see a different variation to wood thread screws.
@Mr_Rick
@Mr_Rick 2 года назад
Good on ya! Nice work. Enjoyed it.
@davetruman8116
@davetruman8116 4 года назад
Great video! I've used these taps & dies for varies projects. I ended up making a L-shaped block of wood for taping the holes with just enough clearance for the tap in the cutout of the L-shape. Then I drilled a hole the size of the tap shaft. This allows me to clamp the wood square to my work to make sure I get it going straight in the hole. Once you get it started and going straight, you can take off the block and finish up the hole. I hope this makes sense and helps!
@darbinorvar
@darbinorvar 4 года назад
Nice tip!
@NYWoodworker
@NYWoodworker 4 года назад
When tapping a hole straight, get it started on a drill press then finish it in a vise. Worked great for me tapping a cast iron handwheel.
@NoxmilesDe
@NoxmilesDe 4 года назад
So many reasons to watch all your videos!
@cassvirgillo3395
@cassvirgillo3395 4 года назад
Hi Linn & Family, It's going to be an awesome work bench, in a really nice space. You could make a square block 2 or 3 inches tall, with a hole the outside diameter of your tap to use as guide for starting tap, remove when tap is fully engaged in your work piece, the leg. You could cut a 90 deg. Notch in a square piece of wood for X, Y reference to keep tap straight. Really enjoyable channel, Thank you for all your time and effort making videos. Watching in Willamina, OR, all the best, C.
@larrynelson734
@larrynelson734 10 месяцев назад
Hi. You are a very talented young lady. Can't wait to see the finished vice. 👍❤..
@oldmanhuppiedos
@oldmanhuppiedos 4 года назад
Making yourself is much more fun. The results are impressive.
@paulcaskey
@paulcaskey 4 года назад
I've heard of wooden gears on ships made with iron wood. I imagine that would also work well for screws. Thanks for sharing!
@darbinorvar
@darbinorvar 4 года назад
I bet it would be cool to use ironwood!
@Bill.L.Carroll
@Bill.L.Carroll 4 года назад
Looking good, good workout for the arms too! 😉👍🏽
@JamesJones-gk5jd
@JamesJones-gk5jd 4 года назад
Wow that is so neat. Never seen that done before
@billyhill101
@billyhill101 4 года назад
Totally awesome video thank you
@pieromarongiu2030
@pieromarongiu2030 4 месяца назад
Absolutely brilliant… well done mate 👍
@koreanwoodworker2582
@koreanwoodworker2582 4 года назад
I really wanted to know how to make it. Thank you for sharing
@walterrider9600
@walterrider9600 4 года назад
thank you Darbin . i do like the screw good idea
@watchful1168
@watchful1168 3 года назад
You are a wonderful woodworker!
@joelroberts1581
@joelroberts1581 4 года назад
I’m really inspired by your approach to learning through trial and error.
@darbinorvar
@darbinorvar 4 года назад
Nice to hear!
@WagonLoads
@WagonLoads 4 месяца назад
If you mount the hole threading tap in your drill press and clamp the work piece, the drill press will keep the tap from wandering ..
@ifiwooddesigns
@ifiwooddesigns 3 года назад
Love the large screws. Definitely want to make one for a wooden vise. Maybe revisit this with a jig to cut threads with a 60 or 90 degree router bit, and maybe another jig with a 90 double beveled bit for the inside of bolt. Maybe attaching it to a metal screw to space properly. The Beale tool and most jigs don’t go bigger than 1.5” diameter.
@nikburton9264
@nikburton9264 4 года назад
You should put your tap in the drill press to keep it square to start. Turn it by hand, and it will be pretty square. Once 1 or 2 threads are cut the tap will follow those and you'll be good.
@jefftrag1956
@jefftrag1956 4 года назад
I watch a wagon wheel maker who has a channel and he uses a metal lathe. A metal lathe has a stationary cutter that moves parallel to the dowel you are cutting so you get a perfectly sized dowel, Seem like you could rig up something to do the same on a wood lathe.
@EngineerMikeF
@EngineerMikeF 4 года назад
The screw-driven tool holder on a metal lathe is pretty much a basic necessity where so much of the final work form needs to be equidistant from the work center (which is the case w/Linn's dowel/screw). And it would be an interesting project to add to a metal lathe & be used to cut the threads. But a simple technique for uniform dowel diameter would be to stop the lathe motor & clamp a straight edge close to the nearly complete dowel for reference, then pencil-mark high locations to be turned down, using calipers for accuracy & straight edge for visual identification of areas of concern. If really trying to get close tolerance, use sandpaper to fair out the last few thousandths.
@jefftrag1956
@jefftrag1956 4 года назад
@@EngineerMikeF I only have a few hours on a wood lathe and none on a metal one but when watching the guy do spokes and hubs out of wood on a metal lathe it seeded to me wood lathes should have the same sort of jigs to do perfect dimensional stuff. should be prtty easy to rig something up that would do the job
@bjbeatty9451
@bjbeatty9451 4 года назад
I believe a small chamfer on the end would help your die start easier and square.
@mrintomesee
@mrintomesee 4 года назад
Dang that's a good idea!
@cupbowlspoonforkknif
@cupbowlspoonforkknif 4 года назад
Yes! And also hold a square up to the shaft from two points, 90 degrees from each other to make sure you're vertical on both axis as you are twisting it in. Once it's started you don't need the squares anymore, it will follow the hole.
@gregoryhalye8907
@gregoryhalye8907 4 года назад
Better idea, if you have the tools available... start the tap for the female threading on a drill press. Center up your work using a straight drill bit or just leave it in place right after drilling. Then, using the chuck to help keep you on center and the spindle advance to apply pressure, turn the tap to produce your threads. You can get a helper to turn the tap if you are having problems coordinating. I highly recommend that you cut your threads after the mineral oil soak or use some means to stabilize your wood. After the threads are cut, you can further stabilize them or even repair minor damage by soaking the threads with thin superglue, and then cutting the threads again to clean it back up. This also applies to the threads on the dowel! As for making for faster cutting down of that massive chunk of wood for your vise screw, look up how to do a "stop cut" on your table saw. This can greatly assist you in saving time and reducing frustrations in the shop.
@markbaldwin975
@markbaldwin975 4 года назад
The woodwrights shop show on PBS has an episode on how to make the screw cutter box. Its online so you can stream it...its fascinating...to me at least.
@NSResponder
@NSResponder 2 года назад
it's a lot easier to use the thread box if you hold the workpiece in a vise. Just a tip.
@michaelbunn1465
@michaelbunn1465 4 года назад
Just a thought on when you go to tap the hole in the leg...you could possibly make a template or key for the tap out of 3/4 material...plywood,a small piece of hard wood,clamp it to the leg and then proceed with tapping it all while the key should keep it straight and help with wandering...just a thought. Liked the video!
@SouKube
@SouKube 3 года назад
You are amazing!
@mgdesigns37069
@mgdesigns37069 3 года назад
Darbin - fascinating - I'd love to see the plans for the leg vise - I am considering making a should vise for my new to me Sjobergs bench, and have to be DIY for saving $$$. Thanks.
@TheSirGoreaxe
@TheSirGoreaxe 4 года назад
I think I saw someone mention using the drill poles to make sure it's perpendicular. I would also recommend something like lignum vita as the nut since it wears well.
@ozanli_Gen6
@ozanli_Gen6 4 года назад
Thanks for an interesting video,! So, which oil do you use, which ones can be used to soak the tree, or what other oil? ))
@robviolin1
@robviolin1 4 года назад
Bravo 👏
@TecSanento
@TecSanento 4 года назад
You could use a Premade board with a straight hole and thread inside clamped onto the leg as a guide for the hole in the leg
@BradsWorkbench
@BradsWorkbench 4 года назад
Dont tap the leg itself. Tap a "nut" in a seperats piece of wood and then inlay it into thd leg. That way if it isnt straight or breaks over the years its easy to replace. Just an idea
@BigFatTonys
@BigFatTonys 4 года назад
I see that beech is the more common wood for making screws. The interlocking grain of Elm seems like it would make a good screw. I have yet to make one, the reason why I watched this video. First I learned about using oil to condition the wood, Thanks
@AH-we7rj
@AH-we7rj 4 года назад
Interesting to see how the lady is working it out. I was actually thinking this video was making the thread by hand, not by a cutter.. I had read that it can be done with wrapped around wet dyed thin rope...but this is interesting too...
@richysam11
@richysam11 3 года назад
Hi. You spoke about it being a challenge keeping the female threading flat and square. Could you not use the die or another pretreated piece or bolt to clamped to the top of the hole to guide your tap down and keep level for the initial section?
@pauln2661
@pauln2661 4 года назад
Have you considered a stop nut on your lathe cutter that would rest against the tool rest to get a set and repeatable depth?
@tonyhawkins2463
@tonyhawkins2463 4 года назад
Drill the hole for the nut on the lethe, then support the die with the tail stock centra, slowly turn the nut while pushing on the tail stock to start the die, this will keep you die squire while you genterly tread the nut. great project liking the treaded bar
@JanSzymonGoowacz
@JanSzymonGoowacz 4 года назад
Start cutter on drill press to get perfect 90* (remove handle from cutter and put i to chack)
@pataxrider869
@pataxrider869 4 года назад
After threading the wood, do you think by soaking it in mineral oil will helps for smoother screw experience without the squeaky sound as it would if it's dry?
@railfan439
@railfan439 4 года назад
Linn, take a hint from the machinists. Use your drill press to square up the wood tap to get straight threads. Look around on RU-vid for ABOM79, Turn Wright Machine, or Keith Rucker's channels. They show how to tap holes with a tap guide. Thanks for the video. Jon
@Andreazzo
@Andreazzo 4 года назад
Try to see this video (it's in Italian, but you can just watch it). The man shows how to make wooden broomsticks... This is useful fo create a regular bar for the screw
@karl_alan
@karl_alan 4 года назад
I wonder if there is a way to put the threading tool into the drill-press chuck to make it go more straight, and just have the drill press on a super low rpm, or still feed by hand by rotating the chuck manually.
@forrest225
@forrest225 4 года назад
That funky smell is one of the reasons red oak isn't used in wine and spirit barrels. It's also not as water tight as white oak.
@NiHaoMike64
@NiHaoMike64 4 года назад
A dual axis carriage would make getting a consistent diameter trivial. Might be a good project in the future, although making one out of (just) wood that doesn't flex too much in the middle might be a bit difficult.
@KingsFineWoodworking
@KingsFineWoodworking 4 года назад
That's awesome! I also love experimenting. I should loan you my 2-1/2" Threading Tool. Love your channel!
@darbinorvar
@darbinorvar 4 года назад
Thank you! That would be pretty awesome. 🙂
@KingsFineWoodworking
@KingsFineWoodworking 4 года назад
I couldn’t remember if I commented back or not. If you want to email me so I can get your shipping address, I’ll send it over. Also, we’d like to send you one of our Thor’s Hammer Woodworking Mallets.
@richysam11
@richysam11 3 года назад
Hi. Can you guide me to somewhere that sells die and taps above 1” as I can’t find anything over 1” (grizzly) online.
@geoffreymaddison6434
@geoffreymaddison6434 4 года назад
When starting to tap the the internal thread, use a square to keep the tap up right. Also in stead of wasting all that wood, you could have tapped out a block for the end and glued it on. But a nice job anyway. Best regards Geoff Maddison UK.
@Schmunzel57
@Schmunzel57 4 года назад
I would go to a metal workshop and ask if I can borrow tools for the coarsest tread the have. I have an old bench where the outer spindle diameter is about 70mm or 2 6/8. The used wood is likely hornbeam, I guess oak is to coarse to hold the tread really long.
@jimbo2629
@jimbo2629 4 года назад
Vices normally have trapezoidal (acme) thread.. The thread you are producing looks to be finer and a different profile. I made a moxon vice with metric thread and it’s a pain needing lots of turns to move the chop. I think trapezoidal threads have other advantages such as less likely to bind or get blocked up with sawdust. It looks like you are having fun though. However, something like an important workbench vice probably needs the real McCoy. Another interesting video.
@haisamjab
@haisamjab 4 года назад
Hi, thank you for sharing... this was brilliant. Could you suggest me a brand name for the kind of mineral oil based wax that you're talking about? I usually use Protectool wax or Renaissance. Thanks again...
@alphasigmasezon8597
@alphasigmasezon8597 4 года назад
Great
@alphasigmasezon8597
@alphasigmasezon8597 4 года назад
Muito obrigado
@phildodd9942
@phildodd9942 4 года назад
I loved the presentation of the project, where you initially run us through the background ! The illustrations of the different types of vise that you considered, and your ultimate choice of a leg vise. Some useful advice, well illustrated, to soak the wood in mineral oil - was that something you know from experience or was it some new research ? It certainly worked a treat ! Presumably those of us not as accurate as yourself could deliberately make it longer in order to cut off a damaged end where we have struggled to get the thread going ? That is a fairly hefty handle on your second attempt, and it will be interesting to see if you find that it is necessary, or maybe could be a bit smaller ! A great asset of your videos is that you keep reminding us that woodworkers CAN and perhaps SHOULD be tidy - I loved that vacuum hose gathering all of the cuttings when you made the nut ! As always, the whole production of the video made it easy and rewarding to enjoy the whole project - far too often we are left wondering during videos on other channels, what actually IS going on ! And again you have mixed narrative and live action to convey where you're at. Good lateral thinking to innovate as you went along ! Yes, your videos and your projects certainly are enjoyable ! Hopefully there is to be a "part 2" where you assemble the vise onto the bench ? Thanks !
@MegaWeagle
@MegaWeagle 3 года назад
Would love to know what you were smelling with the red oak. That’s my most used species of wood and haven’t noticed a weird smell. Also this is my first video from your channel. Will definitely be watching more!
@dddriller1
@dddriller1 4 года назад
cool to see a screw made out of wood :)
@randyc5650
@randyc5650 4 года назад
What type of hole was in your tap? Or was the shaft fixed to it?
@robot7759
@robot7759 4 года назад
Nice light saber 😸
@darbinorvar
@darbinorvar 4 года назад
Right!?
@josephkrug8579
@josephkrug8579 4 года назад
would you be able to do the "nut" portion in the leg on the drill press? not running it under power but just using that to keep it square and doing it manually. Very cool project :)
@2testtest2
@2testtest2 4 года назад
I do this when tapping metal all the time, except in a mill, but same principle. Works great. Even if you just clamp the piece to the table when you drill it, and then stick a center or small drill in the chuck as a visual guide. Also, at least for metal threading, it's the first 2-3 turns that decide if you go square or not, once it gets started there is basically no turning. Might be different for wood though.
@sethbracken
@sethbracken 4 года назад
Maybe use the drill press to tap the next hole. Tap the hole into a piece that is too thick so that you can chamfer the edge. Once your threads are in, thin the piece down until the lip of the hole is square with the face of the piece of wood.
@paulfernandez2695
@paulfernandez2695 4 года назад
Interesting explication.I don't know what could I do with a Lady Carpenter. AMAZING
@stevebailey2781
@stevebailey2781 4 года назад
Please do a video of you finishing the vise. I have the same 1.5 in. tap and die too....but have not used it yet.
@darbinorvar
@darbinorvar 4 года назад
I'll definitely document the rest of the process!
@ColinWatters
@ColinWatters 4 года назад
Perhaps start the tap in the lathe or pillar drill to get it going straight.
@AaronGlett
@AaronGlett 4 года назад
for making the other female end of the threaded sections, might it be possible to use a drill press operating at a low speed?
@NiHaoMike64
@NiHaoMike64 4 года назад
Probably still way too fast.
@snakeplisken2123
@snakeplisken2123 Год назад
That thread box makes to many TPI the vice will be slow to adjust. But I’m tempted to buy one to make a lamp with a bolt through it that turns it on and off.
@PaulinaPaulino
@PaulinaPaulino 4 года назад
0:22 "Something a touch undersized because it is a small space, and it will be rectangular, and not a SQUARESPACE". lol 2:18 If only you had a vice to hold the dowel as you were turnin... oh, right. Nevermind.
@ozanli_Gen6
@ozanli_Gen6 4 года назад
Sağol, ay Ağbaci, sən çox gözəl və qabiliyyətli Ustadsan! Öpdüm səni! - Like from AZE! ))
@nivedmurali8523
@nivedmurali8523 4 года назад
Increase the length of the lever of that thread maker,it will increase the torque,so you can easily done your work,nice video,
@flashpointwhite
@flashpointwhite 4 года назад
Not a lot of know-how on my end, but just wondering... Would it be easier to make a large "nut" that you could glue on to the end of the first rod you made to give it more strength? Seems like the threads would give it plenty of surface area for strength and you'd end up with something similar but with less overall effort than using the lathe the whole time. Great work!
@phildodd9942
@phildodd9942 4 года назад
That would be a good idea if you wanted to have a thread that was "cut all the way to the end" ? With the second one, there was an uncut area where the cutter was prevented from going further because of the handle - sounds a great idea that you have !
@ellenhal1537
@ellenhal1537 5 месяцев назад
What thickness are wood doors?
@6klaus6
@6klaus6 Год назад
How many woodworkers are there?
@johnpauldeleonardis1340
@johnpauldeleonardis1340 3 года назад
Where did you get the tap and die set?
@darbinorvar
@darbinorvar 3 года назад
links are in the description.
@ikerstges
@ikerstges 4 года назад
consider sharpening the knifes in your threadbox to the best possible sharpness!!
@thomashamiltom
@thomashamiltom 4 года назад
Kind of a vinegar smell eh? When we cut it on the sawmill it makes me think of bbq sauce!
@cupbowlspoonforkknif
@cupbowlspoonforkknif 4 года назад
You can also use a die on the lathe. With the power on or off. Either way it keeps it square.
@Sulentar
@Sulentar 4 года назад
To keep the female thread maker in square u can use the male thread maker, what do i mean, take the table/bench leg and clamp the male thread maker to the leg, the female should go inside in square, at least thats the way how i did it with metal thread cutters, as much that could see you need just to turn the male thread maker upside down
@PlanB_design
@PlanB_design 4 года назад
If the screw rod was made out of one solid piece like you've made, you should have blended out the end of thread to the left over chunk. The stress will most likely be at the hard edge made by that screw and the chunk meet. If say yes to your design, then it's reasonable to have those two separately and glue them together. Less material, less work, more meaningful.
@Christopher-pf8qt
@Christopher-pf8qt 4 года назад
Where’d you get the tap and die?
@darbinorvar
@darbinorvar 4 года назад
There is a link in the description.
@sjschultz
@sjschultz 4 года назад
Check out www.bealltool.com/products/threading/threaders.php for a different product to make threads. I believe tearout is less of an issue (and oiling is not needed) when using this router-based method.
@Grunt49
@Grunt49 4 года назад
Amazon does not have thread box.
@boriserjavec6470
@boriserjavec6470 3 года назад
is this how they made it in the old days?
@leebarnhart9725
@leebarnhart9725 4 года назад
You'll be throwing your steel nut and bolts away! lol.
@mrintomesee
@mrintomesee 4 года назад
I've been working on making my own lathe as it happens over the last week and in the process of making a chuck for it. Everything was absolutely bang on dead centre and the chuck lined up more perfectly than i would have dared dream. Then i couldn't get it off the thread without it taking the threaded insert nut out of the chuck. I put some epoxy on it and fitted it back in as best i could but it was all out of plumb so i've had to redo the chuck again :( I love the challenge of doing something that is very difficult. An idea that struck me regarding your endevour, i would drill a whole in the centre at the end and use a 10mm tap and die for a thread so i can screw in a bolt which i would then attach my drill to. I'd set the 1/5 inch block on a flat surface secure and line the large dowel up with the threader from above, i think it would be much easier to line up straight perhaps? But either way the bolt and drill at the end would make life much easier when working the wooden bolt over the thread to grease it? But you did a marvelious job!
@Grunt49
@Grunt49 4 года назад
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