How to Move Off Center Vanity Light Over on Bathroom Wall

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Hello DIY remodelers, in this video we show you how to take an old off center bathroom vanity light fixture outlet box which is not centered on the wall and move move vanity light fixture over on the bathroom wall until it is centered. This is how to move light fixtures, and moving light fixtures is often required when you remodel the bathroom and install a new bathroom vanity, when you find the vanity light rough in is off center. After you watch this video, there will be no more off center light fixture for you.
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how to move light fixture box
Hello fellow DIY remodelers, in this video we show you how to take an old bathroom vanity light fixture outlet box which is not centered on the wall and move move light fixture over on the wall until it is centered. This is how to move light fixtures, and moving light fixtures is often required when you remodel the bathroom and install a new bathroom vanity, when yo find the vanity light rough in is off center.
How to move vanity light fixture
If you notice that your bathroom vanity light junction box is not centered on the wall, you can move light fixture box over on the wall a few inches. After you move light fixture over, you'll be ready to patch up the drywall over the hole where the
How to choose the right vanity light rough in box
We also show you in this video how to choose the right depth vanity light rough in box, so that you don't buy a vanity light rough in box that is too deep for the space you have inside your wall. Then it's time to un-wire everything, and moving light fixture in bathroom.
How to move bathroom light fixture
So you noticed that your bathroom vanity light fixture is way off center so here we'll show you how to move bathroom light fixtures over on the wall to better center the vanity light during your vanity light install project. And that is all there is to moving light fixtures over in bathrooms.
How to move light fixture in bathroom
Before we move light fixture over, we have to move the light fixture box over. Here's how to move light fixture box. To move the light fixture box over we have to make sure there is enough wire connected to the vanity light rough in box before moving light fixtures over.
Make sure you have the proper depth light fixture outlet can and place it on the drywall in the spot where you want to install your vanity lights and trace it out. Then cut the drywall and grab the wires from the old vanity light can, and move the wires to the new can.
Move light fixture in bathroom
Now that the we have figured out how to move light fixture box, and so the new light fixture box has been moved on the bathroom wall, now you simply reconnect all the vanity light fixture box wires into the vanity light rough in box and move the light fixture in the bathroom over and attach it to the new location. Now your bathroom vanity lights are centered. This completes the vanity light install.
How to move bathroom vanity light fixtures
Congratulations, now you know how to move bathroom light fixtures over on the wall and how to install vanity lights.

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@BeckyWarren Год назад

Thank you so much for this video! I watched it about 20 times as I moved my vanity light which had been installed about five inches off center, something I'd never tried before. You gave me the confidence to take it on, and every time I encountered a roadblock, there was advice for me in the video. Thank you so much!

@BLUESMAN1221 5 лет назад

I like that you grounded it like you did plus very impressed that you left the information of the plumbing line behind the electrical box.

@BLUESMAN1221 5 лет назад

As for liking the light fixture It's nice but of course that's just my opinion..Haha..

@jeffostroff 5 лет назад

Yes that is the engineer in me I always like to think ahead for the next guy that has to work on it too

@rachealhendrickson5038 2 года назад

I found this video when trying to find a solution to my problem of a stud exactly centered where I need to put the vanity light. THANK YOU! I know that wasn't your issue, but since we used 1/2 inch drywall, the same solution will work!

@jeffostroff 2 года назад

Awesome, glad to help Racheal

@melaniemoore4049 3 года назад

I had the same problem with a pipe directly over the center of the sink and I wish I had seen this before I struggled to figure it out. Unfortunately I didn't even have a cement wall to secure the light box to. You are very thorough and I learned a lot about the different size light boxes, how to patch huge hole in drywall etc. Thank you very much!!!

@jeffostroff 3 года назад

They make plastic remodel outlet boxes that pinch to the drywall, and they can handle standard vanity lights too! Comes in handy when you need a light box to be in that spot and there is no studs or block wall behind it.

@skip2mylusstorytime 3 месяца назад

Hi, I like the light fixture. It looks modern and bright enough for using in the bathroom. I'm new to your channel but I'm not new to DIY projects. I'm always looking for good videos to help me get all the details and possible issues that might come up before I start a project, as well as troubleshooting as I go. I subscribed because you explain things great and are very detailed and thorough with whatever job you're doing. I appreciate all the information you share and the experience you've had. Thanks, very much! I've got an old floor to ceiling pole lamp with 3 sconces and need to change out the wiring, both inside and out. 2 of the sconces that come off the pole are loose so I need to figure out how to tighten them. I'm not sure if this is within your expertise but if so, could you please do a video? Thanks again, :D

@huyquoctran2088 3 года назад

Good person you are. 99% of the time no one gonna put a note there 👍

@jeffostroff 3 года назад

YEs, I like to be helpful

@EyeEatYoBabiesSon 3 года назад

Wow great job definitely gave me hope to move mine down the line as well

@RosaPerez-ye4kl 5 лет назад

This was exactly my problem. Thank you so much!!!!

@jeffostroff 5 лет назад

We are glad our video helped you!

@pattirayne1243 2 года назад

I really like your choice of light. In fact, I'm going to consider it for my remodel. I've got a yacht theme. Ha! I found your video because I was trying to find a video about how to take power from an existing fixture and feed one sconce and then from that sconce to another. I was thinking of fishing it all over head in the attic but I like to watch videos to make sure I'm not flubbing up.

@jeffostroff 2 года назад

Awesome! Thank you!

@maryquin28 5 лет назад

it's baffling that anyone would install a light fixture off-center, but this is exactly my issue in my half-bath (and it drives me crazy every time i'm in there)! thanks for this video, now i feel like i can actually move the fixture over myself.

@robertstewart1254 2 года назад

It's easy to think so, but the situation we ran into is that we put a different size vanity in and the center changed.

@jessicaripko Год назад

@@robertstewart1254 yep same thing happened to us. We originally had a 24 inch vanity and now we have a 36 inch vanity 😑

@albertlopez2762 4 года назад

Thanks so much, I have the exact same problem, except it's a pvc pipe, 2 or 3" in diameter which will make it tight. I'm thinking about using your method using the shims to create a surface right behind the drywall to which I'll attach the 1/2" electrical box. It's a single romex 3 wire cable, and the fixture is pretty light weight, so I think it'll work .

@jeffostroff 4 года назад

Yes, either way you'll want to avoid that pipe by as much space as you can, shoot for 2" to 3" away, this will help avoid future mishaps where someone thinks they are screwing in additional screws to the outlet box going into the "stud", only to find out later that stud was a pipe!

@jeffostroff 5 лет назад

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@michel8934 2 года назад

Neat little project. Am doing exactly the same in my bathroom. YES, I believe all those tools were indeed necessary 🥵

@jeffostroff 2 года назад

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!

@jennydannyp7229 3 года назад

Thanks for the tip! I have the same issues! On a double vanity!

@jeffostroff 3 года назад

Awesome, Jenny, hope it works out for you

@robertromo4816 5 лет назад

I think the light is pretty cool, and what a lot of work for that fixture, also the word you were looking for is plumb, not level when going up and down. Not being critical just using the proper term. Good job I really like watching your videos.

@jeffostroff 5 лет назад

Yes, thanks, sometimes at the end of a long day, tired and back spams from working over my head, I don't always articulate perfectly!

@ronaldsmith7827 2 года назад

Your the man! Thanks

@yakittyyeah7649 2 года назад

Nice job, nice light. Thank You for sharing.

@jeffostroff 2 года назад

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!

@kiiinnndddaaa 2 года назад

very helpful!

@jeffostroff 2 года назад

Glad you think so!

@larryfreeman7979 2 года назад

not sure where you live, but in Canada, your work is contrary to the Canadian Electrical Code. The shallow box allows for 2 conductor wires only, i.e. one black , one white. there is not enough box "fill" to accommodate your extra wires, An inspector would fail your installation immediately. I would assume (without me checking further) that this would fail in the USA as well.

@goaheadskinit 2 года назад

Good video

@jeffostroff 2 года назад

Thanks I'm glad you liked the video

@garyfoster5799 2 года назад

Going thru the same thing here, except I have a stud dead center of where i need to put the vanity light. I figured if i put a stud on either side of it a few inches off of it each way i can make it work. (the drywall has been removed for bathroom make over

@jeffostroff 2 года назад

Yes that would be a good way to do it make sure to be able to tell if this is a load bearing wall or not. Because when you add those two king studs on either side of where the vanity light can is going to be placed, they need to run from the floor up to the ceiling.

@jimsullivan1792 4 года назад

I bought a condo and the previous owner had put in a different cabinet and sink and so I have this same issue presently. I'm not sure the electrical will reach though so I believe I have to wire a new junction box and then cap over the old one. Does this sound about right?

@jeffostroff 4 года назад

I would only cap over the old box if your new vanity light can cover it up. Otherwise, I would start slicing into drywall and run new longer wires back to the switch.

@jdonnelly1977 4 года назад

Love your channels! My wife and I are moving into a new construction in 3 weeks (initial walkthrough tomorrow). I realized that the j-box for the dining room hanging light is not centered... how easy/time consuming will it be for the builders to move the jbox and get the old spot patched up?

@jeffostroff 4 года назад

A knowledgeable person with experience can move that in a couple of hours, and patch it. Might have to come back the next day to sand and feather out the patch.

@jdonnelly1977 4 года назад

@@jeffostroff Great to know, thank you!

@Youngandsuccessful33 2 года назад

wow very beautiful, thank you now i will try myself! hahaaha

@jeffostroff 2 года назад

You can do it!

@cherylastern6351 4 года назад

This is one of my problems. I like the rope light. But I wish you would have shown how to connect the actual light to the light box. Thanks so much. Cheryl

@jeffostroff 4 года назад

All lights in a case that same way to screws through the front of the metal housing on a light go into the bracket on the can

@zaneblane8160 10 месяцев назад

What?

@percivalmosaedi558 2 года назад

Any ideas on how to move an offset light fixture that's on a porcelain tile wall?

@jeffostroff 2 года назад

Wherever you want to move it to, you will have to use an angle grinder to cut a hole in the tile wall, and then mount your new box. Hopefully you don't hit a stud. Assume the studs start in the corner, then every 16" from there.

@debraseguin18 2 года назад

Thanks for this video I didn’t know they made a more shallow box or can… is there any worry with placing electrical right in front or that copper pipe? If there is any leak will the wires be ok?

@jeffostroff 2 года назад

There are no worries about the pipe leaking it is not in front of any type of soldered fitting like a 90 degree turn in the pipe or anything like that. At 6:27 in the video you can see I used blue Tapcon anchors to anchor some wood onto the concrete and then this thin outlet can will then screw onto the wood and I sized it so that the wood will make the can stick out proud in front of the copper pipe a little bit so they will not be touching. You will not have any issues with dissimilar metals touching each other that's my very skillful engineering that thinks of all these little things.

@Booksfromabrit 6 месяцев назад

Instead of a pipe, we have a wooden stud right where we need to place the box to have the fixture centered. Is it ok to install that kind of shallow junction box directly on top of a stud, or does there need to be a gap between the stud and the junction box please?

@JimmyMakingitwork 4 года назад

21,000 views and only a couple hundred could muster the strength to click the thumbs up. Like it’s a turn signal. Smh Very helpful video, thx!

@jeffostroff 4 года назад

Thanks Jim, glad you liked it!

@robertspringer5717 2 года назад

On this video of moving a electrical light box, I need to fasten box to sheetrock. No wood stud or cement to drill to, how do you secure box ?

@jeffostroff 2 года назад

robert, this is what you need: homedepot.sjv.io/gb5yR9 this is a 1-Gang 18 cu. in. Round Old Work Electrical Box. You cut a round hole in the drywall, and this pinches itself to the front and back of the drywall using those 3 winglets that grab the back side of the drywall.

@patriciacarranza4550 Год назад

What would you do if you have a 2x4 stud in the center? I'm having this problem.

@jeffostroff Год назад

Stud can be useful, you can mount the can on either side of the stud, and use a paddle drill bit to make a 1/2" hole in the stud to feed the romex wire through if necessary

@michel8934 2 года назад

Curious though, what do you do if the wires don’t quite reach the new location?

@jeffostroff 2 года назад

If they don't you can run a new Romex 14-2 cable from the light switch. I have had to do that before. No matter what, don't make any hidden junction wiring connection inside the wall, it is a massive safety and NC electric code violation. Every wiring connection must be inside a can.

@ricktollefson6077 5 лет назад

My old vanity light in the bathroom has an electrical plug outlet on top which is now irrelevant. I am replacing the complete unit. What do I do with the wires that go to the plug outlet?? Does this require some special attention??

@jeffostroff 5 лет назад

Rick, great question. I am assuming the wires going to that little outlet on your old vanity light are also connected to the light socket, correct? If so you can remove them, leaving just one set of Romex wire behind to power the light socket. BUT, if the builder ran 2 sets of wires (one for the light, and one for the outlet), you can cap off the electrical outlet's old wires inside the vanity light can using plastic wiring nuts, or if possible, remove the Romex wire for the outlet all the way back to the last outlet done the line that sources this outlet. that would usually be the outlet by the sink. Either way, keep in mind that National Electric Code forbids hidden junctions inside the walls. This is why if you decide to leave the Romex cable for the electrical outlet unused and inside the wall, it must be inside a can where it is accessible.

@ricktollefson6077 5 лет назад

Thanx for the quick reply....very detailed and informative...thanx again....

@ricktollefson6077 5 лет назад

@@jeffostroff Just to followup. The install went really smoothly. By the book in fact. Didn't need to worry about the plug wire as it was a continuation of the existing wiring, not a separate source. I did it thanx to your info and the confidence you gave me...tons of thanx, man...best :)

@philkingmke 3 года назад

Wondering why you didn't use a plastic old work box. Seems like that would've been way easier since you have romex coming in.

@jeffostroff 3 года назад

Find me one that flat, 1/2" thick is what we needed in that spot. I went with the metal.

@helensaunders1603 5 лет назад

I have exactly the same problem. I wanted to replace the light fixture in the basement bathroom. The light had been installed without a box at all. I measured, determined where centre was, cut and discovered the water pipe right smack in the middle of the cut out. I was going to put in a box with the wings that attach to the back of the drywall, but it is way too deep. When I inquired at HD about using that pan box BC56111 for that situation the rep told me that would be not acceptable because there would be a dissimilar metals reaction caused by the galvanized metal box and the copper pipe. I thought I heard a comment about dissimilar metals in your video, but this pan was installed anyway. Just wondering if it could work for my situation, or do I have to move the water pipe?

@jeffostroff 5 лет назад

Well I am impressed with the guy at home depot for knowing about that yes you can not have dissimilar metals touching because you will develop corrosion between the 2 and eventually it would cause the pipe to fail and you would have a leak in the wall. What you can do is put something in between the outlet Box and the pipe like a thick rubber gasket or something or preferably something saw that like plastic which would prevent the to from ever touching. If I recall member correctly from the video I think we placed wood blocks behind the outlet that gave it enough space that it didn't touch the pipe.

@kohort1 2 года назад

My issue is that I have ceramic tile from ceiling to floor and the mirror is also all the way to the ceiling. Meaning the vanity light is installed through a hole in the mirror and the ceramic tile. I really don't want to tear down the tiles bc then if have to redo the whole bathroom walls. But I'm trying to re center the light bc I'm installing a longer vanity.

@kohort1 2 года назад

I'm still planning. I suppose I can pop open one of the tiles to expose the dry wall where I want to move the light and custom order a 42" mirror with a hole centered over the new hole that will cover up the exposed drywall. I just don't know if it's easier to pop off one big 15" tile vs drill a big saw hole into it. Took me literally 10minutes just to drill ONE qtr" hole w a hammer drill and masonry bit.

@raissahowera1605 4 года назад

This is the problem I have except it's a stud instead of a pipe. What do I do then?

@jeffostroff 4 года назад

If the stud is metal, it likely is not a load bearing wall, and thus the metal stud is just there to hang the drywall on, so you can slice open the drywall, and cut out that small 4" section of the metal stud where th elight box needs to go. If the stud is wood, you MAY be able to do the same thing, only if the wall is known to be a non-load bearing wall. That might be a hard task for a non-engineer or general contractor with experience. So would it be off center too much if you just move the light box over and screw it to the stud?

@raissahowera1605 4 года назад

@@jeffostroff It would be. This is for a small half bath. The wall is right under the stairs so I'm assuming that wouldn't be load bearing right? I was thinking about using one of those saddle boxes they use for fans but wasn't sure.

@jeffostroff 4 года назад

@@raissahowera1605 If the wall is right under the stairs, it is probably a load bearing wall, supporting the stairs. If your studs are thin metal, then it is not a load bearing wall. You can do this by attaching 2x4 going across from stud to stud, then just screw your outlet box onto the 2x4 in the spot where you need it to be. You can also try on of these outlet boxes that has adjustable mounting bars: www.homedepot.com/p/Carlon-4-in-New-Work-Hard-Shell-Ceiling-Electrical-Box-with-Adjustable-Bar-Hanger-BH525H/100124274

@aoglenictianyan4791 4 года назад

My choice is Aoglenic vanity lights

@sammylopez4644 4 года назад

4:17 “this is verrrry important”. Then the important info is skipped. ? What was important?

@jeffostroff 4 года назад

LOL, yes we had to edit it down for time. The important thing was the pipe in the back of the hole requiring us to get that super thin outlet box, and to make sure you don't let the box touch the copper pipe, because dissimilar metals touching causes corrosion. So we tapconned wood blocks on either side of the pipe, and mounted the outlet box to the wood blocks to prevent it from touching the pipe.

@SheilaSpencer1 2 года назад

@@jeffostroff but THAT is important info that shouldn't have been edited out. If I hadn't read this comment and your reply, I would never have known that. If you needed to cut time, I would've left THAT important info in, and cut something else that is less important. I have a similar situation (having to move elec box) but have not yet cut into the drywall where the new fixture "should" go. It would be good to know, if I discover plumbing in that area. I would definitely add a caveat to your description box to add in that very important info regarding the placement of a new can on top of plumbing. It may save someone else's project. 👍

@SillyPutty3700 4 года назад

It is a violation to have 2 wires on the ground screw. You should have pigtailed your new ground with the other bare grounds and used a wire nut. You damn sure should have used a wire nut on the grounds anyways.

@jeffostroff 4 года назад

Don't know if you noticed, but that's how they wired the entire condo, all the bare grounds twisted together with no wiring nut. The reason why it's a violation of code to have more than one wire ont he screw is because if 2 seperate ground wires are on the same screw and you remove one for some reson, you could be taking out another ciruit. Well the thing is in this bathroom, all those grounds are the same circuit on the same circuit breaker. So the ceiling fan, which this routes through this outlet can, and the wall light switch, and the GFCI outlet in the bathroom are all on the same circuit. I woould have added a wiring nut, but that 1/2" can was just too thin, not enough space to work with. You would nto beleive the effort it tool to get that bracket screwed ontot he can, so we did not want to chance overstuffing.

@jason8507 5 лет назад

What if I don't have enough wire

@jeffostroff 5 лет назад

Jason, if you don't have enough wire, you're in a bind. But you can add wire onto the end of the old wire, but you'll have to put the connection inside an outlet box with a plate access from the wall as required by National Electric Code. "Hidden junctions" are not allowed by code, very bad fire hazard. All wires have to end in an accessible fixture. Another choice is can you snake a new Romex cable from the switch to the light outlet box? that would solve your problem, and you won't be dealing with code issues then. There's been times I had to cut 4 or 5 holes in the wall to feed Romex cables up a wall, around corners, drill holes through studs, etc. Just patch up the drywall afterwards. We do it all the time. Remember if you have metal studs, they already have holes in the studs that you must insert those plastic yellow Universal Snap-In Bushings, as required by code so the Romex does not get caught on the edges of the sharp metal stud and get sliced open. Let us know what you end up doing, this could help others as well.

@jason8507 5 лет назад

@@jeffostroff thank you for the information

@scundoorsup5342 2 года назад

Did you get condo permission??

@jeffostroff 2 года назад

They knew I was remodeling in there.

@giseliapereira5914 7 месяцев назад

I have the same problem, because my master plumber installed my vanity off centre to the existing light. He then wanted me to pay him to fix it!!!

@jeffostroff 7 месяцев назад

Now you should be able to do it yourself for free

@timothyszarzynski9771 5 лет назад

Are you a professional electrician? I don’t think placing electric over a water pipe is a good idea. I’d move the water.

@jeffostroff 5 лет назад

There is nothing wrong with placing the outlet can there over the pipe, as the pipe is sealed, no danger of ever seeing water. You are infinitely more likely to see water from the sink faucet below to get into the electrical outlet or switch by the sink, that is where you should direct your fears. I would not have placed that can over a soldered joint in the pipe just in case the might fail. The can and the pipe are not touching, the can is mounted to the 2 wood blocks on either side of the pipe, which create a space between the pipe and the can. Feel free to find for me the exact paragraph in the National Electric Code book that for bids this. Also, moving the pipe is a much more difficult option. First, the pipe is coming up through this wall from the cement slab floor below, then continues through the cement slab ceiling into the condo above this unit. Cutting and moving this pipe would require soldering several 90 degree elbows, plus we have to file permission with the condo association 48 hours prior to work being done, and they have to post a notice in the elevator warning other residents the water will be turned off for an undetermined amount of time on the day you will actually perform this.

@jasonbarner9931 2 года назад

Always good to find fixes to problems but I cannot understand why the patch job / paint job was done so poorly and just left like that - it's stuff like that, that gives me less and less faith in humanity. It would have taken a few more minutes to paint it better and leave an actual seamless repair. Lack of pride in people's work is just baffling to me - I am not in construction (engineer) but everything I decide is worth my time to work on I do everything within my power to have it be flawless when all is said and done - that could be cleaning a toilet or fixing a drywall issue

@Baugh18 Год назад

Walter White?

@debraseguin18 2 года назад

The light doesn’t seem to good for make up or shaving…

@jeffostroff 2 года назад

This is the type of lighting that most of us have including myself and I have no problem whatsoever shaving. Ideally your professional bathroom designers will want to put that overhead light like you see there, along with two sconce lights on either side of the mirror at eye level. But not everybody can have the perfect design scenario and so this method works just fine.