How to remove/bypass Bell Hub 3000 and use your own router 

pro tip: once you do this mod its possible to get free mid tier tv service with your own router providing you can find a bell tv box to register... and know the work around like me to register them... (ebay often has listings) as the tv boxes will get a 10.0.x.x ip address right from bell and not register to your 192 local net and address.

Thanks Marius, followed your instructions and I'm now free of being stuck using that anchor called the Bell HH 3000. I replaced it with a ASUS Wireless AX5700. The software is great, lots of control and information. Thanks again Marius, great video.

I would like to thank you for this video. I purchased a TP-Link AX-3000 and the media converter. I followed your instructions and with the help of some of the comments, BOOM, I'm now online. A much, much better and snappier connection from all my devices. Again a huge thumbs up.

Damn finally it WORKED!!! I had to buy a crossover cable and I used the same advice has ppl that have comment for tp-link router thank you!

For those with Bell Aliant (those in the maritime area) - they use DHCP rather than PPPOE. Be sure set it to automatic (rather than PPPOE) & set the authentication under account settings to none.

An alternative for those that are wondering; you can use your router through the Home Hub 3000 by turning on DMZ and also checking Advanced DMZ. You will need to add your routers MAC address by typing it in. Note that there is a LAN MAC as well as a WAN MAC. You want the WAN MAC and you may have to look for it by logging into your router. The last digit is usually one digit or letter higher than the LAN MAC. Here's the part where myself and others got stuck; Plug your router into the Home Hub 3000 LAN1 port, not the WAN. After setting up Dynamic IP in the router, it finally obtained an IP address. Good luck. PS. Thank you for your video. I may go this method at some point to move the radiation out of the room.

WOW worked first try !! The hardest part was to pull the SFP. Thanks so much

@Marius C I purchased the same Router (RT-AC68U) and TP link module, everything works great! Thank you for rescuing me from the HH3000. Much love from Scarborough

Hello thx for the video it helps do you need to get the extra devise if the router already has a SFP port on the router such as the asus RT-AX89X for instance

Thanks for the video. I’m about to get Bell Fibe 1000mbps and home hub 3000 so will be trying out your instructions. I’m curious what your speed is up/down with this setup? Is it faster or slower speed than just using the HH3K? Is the TPLimk converter solid? There are no issues with it?

Great Video. Marius, have you been able to connect any of the TV Receivers through this method? Planning to use this setup with a Nest Wifi .. but with out the WPS capability curious if there's a way around.

Thanks for the video, and just another tip: If you change your speed (eg. from 150 to 500 Mbps). You are going to need to plugin it back into your Hub3000 and call tech support to do a reset. Once it's setup for the new speed, you can put it back into the TP Link switch. Cheers.

Great video, thanks for doing that. I am in the process of setting up a network with the Unifi products. I have a switch that has a SFP port. Would I still use the TP-Link converter via the router (router connects to switch), or could I connect the bell fiber and SFP directly to the switch? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks Marius.

Thanks, exactly what I was looking for.

Hi Marius, thanks for the video. Have a few questions for you or others that can answer. I have the HH3000 and I bought the Tp link MC220l, it is a V4 with only 3 LED's but I think you mentioned in your video that it should work. Also got the Asus RT N12d1 as suggested by you. Now, can't get it to connect. I'm familiar with rouler setup, I've double and triple check my work, even changed my Internet password from my Bell account for the HH3000 which I confirmed by going back to the HH3000. Have you personally or others use the RT N12d1 for this setup and can confirm that it works ??. I see in the video that you are using a RT AC86U. Both LED's on the MC200L are occasionally flashing. I've rebooted both devices many times and re did the setup but still no go. What is the purpose of the Merlin software and do I need it ??

Thanks for the info, I'm trying to use a Nighthawk Mesh system but the software seems to be different/updated. Do you know if the mesh system would work?

Reporting back, works like a charm. I was missing the VID settings on LAN and having issues, VID setting solved my issue. Thanks Marius!

Hi, Im presently on Fibe 300 and don't use the HH2000, but use two Asus 86U in mesh setup connected to the Alcatel Lucent ONT. I inquired about going to the Bell Fibe 1GB/s package. They said they will take away the ONT and provide with HH3000 garbage. SO I'm looking for solution to ditch the HH3000 before I commit. Question - what is the type of SFC module that is inside the HH3000? I heard rumours it is a 2500Base-XX (2.5GB/sec) type. The concern I have is the TPlink MC220L may not properly handle this SFC module and I won't get the 1GB/s speed. Can anyone confirm the bandwidth they are receiving using this TPlink solution on the Gigabit Bell Fibe package. So sense in going to the 1.5 Gigabit package as it's too much for the MC220L. Additionally, can the SFC module be changed for a 1000Base? Or are these SFC modules programmed in some way? I'm even considering going back to the ONT setup after the Bell tech leaves and ditching the HH3000 that way rather than the solution offered here. Thanx for any additional info anyone can provide. I also see Asus has a new router (AX type) with a 10 GB/s SFC+ port. I wonder if something like that would work? Have to read more about it but it does seem interesting. I imagine it's big $.

New to Bell Fibe... replaced the HH3000 twice already, found it to be very unstable at best. Within a month as a new Bell internet customer, had to perform a hard reboot several times as a standard practice so i was NOT impressed. Purchase the TP-Link as recommended, i hope you get rewarded when we do this. Your instructions were very straight forward and worked like a charm. Took a few minutes for the Bell network to connect... I will provide update how stable this new set up is, THANK YOU.

The exact procedure worked for me - thank you! Toronto

Hello, thank you for the video. Quick question: What is the model number of the Huawei SFP they use?

Fantastic video Marius! I am struggling a bit. I have all the same piece you mentioned in your video except I have an Asus RT-AC66R. I reset the router but have yet to get an internet connection. When you say your Bell User Name, do you mean the one I log into MyBell account with (my email address) or the User ID which typically starts with "b1xxxxxx"?

this is interesting I often wondered if the bell box was giving off radiation disrupting my sleep as ever since it was installed the energy felt different in the home, so now I am happy and will bypass that box and use your beautiful method, thank you good sir

i was wondering is there way to use the HomeHub 3000 as router again to enable VOIP service to work by trying to pass LAN from the current router to WAN of HomeHub 3000 to use the VOIP service, i mean to say what are the configuration to get it working.

Hey Marius, thank for the information and great video. If it ok, I'm wondering what service do you have with Bell? I have Fibe 500 with the HH3000, so today when I call Bell the technician that supports me said I can't obtain my b1 id and password for PPPoE because it already configured. How did you get yours?

Many thanks for your video Marius.Question:can you use this setup if you have 'copper' with bell.I am wanting to use a modem with lower EMF.At the moment my computer is wired and I have shut off my wifi and I use an ethernet cord from modem to tv so I can watch netflix.Just recently I can no longer use ethernet connection with my tv as Netflix freezes.Think it might be my modem(but maybe my tv? not sure.I am not very tech savvy.

Hey Marius, Would you know if its possible to replace the Bell Hub 2000 if you are using a Business Fiber?

Hi Correct me if I am wrong but using any router with built in support for SFPs would accomplish the same result instead of buying the media converter correct?

If you use the media converter, do i still need a modem or can i use just use media converter n router ?

Hi Marius C! Thanks for this information! It worked flawlessly for me! One question... kinda weird. When I do a speed test using my router interface (Merlin Firmware Version:386.2_6) on my Asus RT-AC68U (HW version 3) I get 217/213 on my Bell fibre 500/500 (which on the home hub and google nest router I got about 540/540). I followed your directions completely. Would the MTU and MRU settings make a difference (currently set to 1500) if changed? Is there any new information that you can pass on? Thanks so very much!

ok so should this be exact, or is it ok for on my setup the fibre cable is still connected to that module thing when I remove it from the home hub.

Hi, I have the Bell Hub 3000 so far all is good. Could you tell me what can I get bypassing another router and using the MC220L?

I'd really like to do this because the Hub 3000 doesn't support Bridge Mode and I'd like to have NAT Loopback (The Hub 2000 has some kind of Bridge Mode - but I upgraded to the real fibre recently). I'm using an Apple Airport router. I can't find anything about the IPtv setting. Is this a requirement? Any ideas on how to handle it in this setup? Many thanks for this.

I need help Mario. I have the RT-AC68U router and purchase the MC220L. I do the same setting twice but don't have an internet connection. I don't know where is the problem?

We got the 1.5 gbps speed from bell. Its only sending up to 250 mbps max on our devices. If I were to do this will it increase the speed more than 250mbps? I feel like bell’s hub 3000 is limiting the amount of down and upload being sent to our devices? What do you think?

that UPNP configuration Allowed internal port range 1024 to 65535 and Allowed external port range 1 to 65535 you created yourself? is port forwarding?

I have RT-AC87u. I have updated through Merlin. Setting as you suggested! Error: Login/Password. (b1 and password are correct), any other suggestion?

So is it possible to use the bell modem with a different wifi to extend the range for example?

Is the IPTV setting only needed for people with a TV package, or is it needed for Internet-only use? Thanks!

Hi Marius, I have tried everything to remove the metal SFP module from the Bell Home Hub with no success at all. It's jammed in way to tight. Can I buy the SFP module on Amazon that I can plug into the media box and then connect the fibre? Thanks

Do you think by using a Cat 7 Ethernet Cable would be faster than a Cat 6 cable?

Hi Marius I'm in Toronto, I have a netgear orbi router with satellite pod. I managed to get this running but my wifi signal got weaker for some reason. I'm wondering if I missed something with the settings. I was able to find the vlan setting, but not the mtu, nat or Qos settings. How about dns, is it importan to have it set up with google or auto?

Hi Marius , any way to show us how to configure with bell fibe tv?? I have a netgear x500 and just purchase the switch but if I do your set up I lose my tv ??? Thanks in advance

I think Bell throttle my streaming (Plex) during evening time here in Toronto. Will it avoid Bell from this throttling by bypassing their Hub 3000?

I got HH4000. How is its microwave effect, I do have my on router Asus Ax86u, but I don’t know how to disable wifi from HH4000 to work on my own router, thanks .

Hey i was just wondering : i have BELL HH2000 ... can i plug fiber cable with SFP adapter on my udm pro ? many thanks

Thanks a lot for you video, I have been looking a lot how to fix the double NAT from my router, and due this one from Bell/Virgin does not have bypass... I ended with DMZ whihc hasn't been working properly. I just order the adapter and now wait for it :)

Thanks, will the fibe TV still work though? I have tv as well

My SFP Module goes into a Nokia ONT. My HH3000 is downline from there. Can I still accomplish this?

Hello Marius, Thank you for the video and instructions. I have the exact same setup, HH3000 and bought the exact switch off amazon. I also have an Asus router with the setup wizard identical to yours. I have gone through these steps multiple times with no connection. The only thing I couldnt do exactly as you showed was changing the MTU and MRU values to 1500. The highest it allows me is 1492 but otherwise same exact setup but no connection. PLEASE HELP

Do you have a video or instructions on how to turn off WiFi on my Home Hub 3000 and replace it with a TP-Link AX90 or similar wireless router?

Does this cap to 1000mbps? For 1.5gbps plans do you need another converter?

Foarte tare tutorial, merci mult!

worked great, thanks!

Hey buddy do you think this would work on Virgin? they use the same modem and was wondering do you think it will work?

hi Marius, will this work if my home phone line goes though the Hub?

Very informative video, I have recently bought 1.5gbps connection from bell. Any suggestions on media converter which can give more then 1gbps lan? Also connecting this sfp on a SFP+ 10gbps converter works? Thanks.

I did this today with an Orbi AX6000. It works, but the speeds are inconsistent, fluctuations between the mid 400s to a max of about 800Mbps. Not sure if there is some setting or something which is causing this issue? Does anyone have anything they can suggest? I have the 1.5Gbps plan with Bell, but I’m ok with just having 1Gbps if it removes the double NAT which doesn’t play nice with some of my smart home stuff.

Marius, im trying to do this with a Linksys Velop router - Logging into the modem via is IP, i cannot find many of your steps from 9:16 onwards. It just doesn't have any of these options. Please help!!

Interesting video. I also have Bell fibre to the home. However, the installer brought a Nokia Fibre-to-copper converter, plugging the Cat5 cable from the Nokia device to the WAN port on the home hub 3000. If you have the same setup, you can just plug your own router into the same cable that goes to this wan port.

I switched from gigabit to 1.5 down plan… mistake? Do I need a 10g converter? Thoughts on hh4000? Pls help

TP Links has the AXE16000 router that comes with a SPIF port now, can I just buy that and skip the switch?

I can confirm this works with Virgin Mobile's internet too. Only thing that is difficult is getting the PPPoE password from their customer service, but beyond that all settings are exactly the same. I was able to set it up for my brother using the MC220L and an ASUS RT-AX88U. I'll be trying to set it up for myself with the media converter and a Nest WiFi next week.

Thanks for the video and comments. I bypassed HH 3000 using Gigabit Ethernet converter (1.25Gb/s) and Asus RT-AC87U. I have 1.5Gbps bell connection and the highest download speed I have seen is 360mbps. Is this kind of disparity normal these days? (given people working from home/ kids on online schools, generally increased internet usage). I have used all settings as advised in the video. thanks!

Thank you!

Thanks fo rthe TUT. Worked great for me. I am curious though...how can I configure the pods to my new router?

Do I need to install the merlin f/w before doing any of this?

Multumim frumos Marius !

Works flawless with me but the media converter fails after 1 year twice now . I am on the tp link one starting today.

What is the type and model of SFP module needed to connect to media convert?

I have a Netgear Orbi AX4200 mesh system and ran into trouble. Firstly, I couldn't get my router to connect to the internet to sign in to change settings after installing the SFP module to the TP Link MC220L. I then attempted to change the settings for my router after re-installing the SFP module in the HH3000 but was unable to change the DNS Servers to Google's, as you demonstrated, nor was I able to change the IPTV settings. It doesn't appear that the Orbi settings allow access to these options. I referred to the Orbi user manual and countless forums and couldn't find the answer or a work around. I guess I'm stuck trying to out the HH3000 into PPPoE mode to see if that will eliminate double NAT for the purpose of installing a Firewalla Purple. Admittedly, I'm pretty bummed this process didn't work and approximately $500 in hardware (TP Link and Firewalla) probably can be used with my Orbi mesh system.

is there an increased risk/vulnerability to outside hacking if you just use your Asus router instead of the Bell provided modem AND router?

Fibre isnt available in my area but they used the dsl cable rj11 type. So how do I convert that to feed into my new router?

I am currently using the Home Hub 2000 and I am sick of the lack of functionality I have with regards to network settings and other things like unstable connections. Does this process work for the Home Hub 2000?

Bell wants to send me a Gigahub if I change my internet package. Currently using this setup, will this setup still work if I don’t take the new router out of the box?

Awesome video sir! I just got Bell FFTH and they gave me the same modem. i plan to buy te converter from amazon. can i plug the converter directly to a DECO M5?

Great video. Thanks for sharing. I have the same modem at home from Bell and I wanna purchase my own router too. However I also have Bell Alt TV (not a separate box or subscription,it’s included with my Fibe 300) where I only have basic channels. Do you know if Alt TV will continue to work if I use a separate router? Thanks.

Great video. The ASUS NT-12 router isn't in stock anymore. What is a good alternative?

Hi Marius, thanks for these details, great info to get rid of the HH3000. One question, where is the optical cable coming from, I assume I have to unplug it from one of the boxes. Is it the ONT Alcatel-Lucent box? I noticed there is a cable being screwed in with a green casing. TIA, Lucian

Does the Bell Home Hub 2000 have the same radiation issue as the Hub 3000? Bell will connect a Bell Fibre Optic cable into the Hub 2000.

do i need a crossover cable from the tp link module ethernet port to the asus router WAN port?

Hello Marius, I was able to config a new Asus router and it is up and running, however since swapping out the HH3000 and performing the config as stated in your video, my DL and UL bandwidth is gone... I am currently on Fibe 500 and since changing my dl speed has dropped to 140MBPS -+ and UL speed is around 10MBPS.... Any ideas? Thanks Andy

I am looking to do this very thing, is it possible with an Eero 6 system ?

Hey Marius Great video it worked no problem, but I am now having issues connecting to any game on my pc or chat programs. I did not have this problem with the hh3000. From my understanding it's the routers firewall. How can I make it all work like the hh3000? Can I just turn off the firewall? Also whenever I try to change any settings on the router the ISP connection says disconnected. I have asus rt ac68

What could I be doing wrong? I bought the Asus ZenWiFi AX6600 and the TP Link MC220L(UN) Ver 4.0. Configured the WAN with PPPOE, 1492 MTU (can't go higher than that), added the correct Bell Internet password and set VID to 35 for the Internet. It won't connect to the Internet. Appreciate any insight

Hi Darius. I can't seem to remove the bell optic fiber as the other end of it disappears into this weird tube thing. Any idea?

feels like your looking into my soul

Hi, pppoe doesn't connect. Any idea ? I'm using the same converter and a palo alto virtual router

Wonderful Video Thanks for making this , i ordered the TP-LINK MCC220L what routers are compatible for this setup , i want to eliminate the HH3000 and have a router to be bridge mode with my google wifi to do all the routing , would appreciate if someone could compile a list of routers would work for this setup

If I understand correctly this video assumes you have a fiber-optic connection coming to your house? Can we bypass the Bell Hub 3000 if we have a standard copper wire connection coming to the house? If so, do we need other equipment than was mentioned in the video?

Does this actually increase your wifi capabilities? I ha e the home hub 3000 for internet only, and the wifi is terrible. Supposed to support up to 75 wireless device yet everything is constantly freezing or extremely slow.

I have bell fibre but my router doesn’t have that part instead there are two phone cables connected in the router. Is this still an issue or ?

I pay for 1.5gbs fiber. Worked with the 10Gtek and ASUS AX92u... but I am getting terrible speeds. 600-700 down 800-900up. Any advice of settings or something I am missing or doing wrong?

From the converter can you put a switch then use the bell home hub for tv and use Ur own router on the other port?

Hi i know this isn't really related to this video but is the home hub 3000 wifi 5 or 6?

Marius, do you have a procedure for the HH4000?

Do you have a video on how to use your own router (i.e. Nest Wifi) along with Bell Hub 3000?

I also have another problem my download is about 40 to 59 mpbs and upload is 368 mpbs can anyone tell me whats the issue I'm using tplink ax1500 is there any other info gotta add numbers in the tplink software?

Will this work on the newer Giga Hub model, thanks?

My homehub does not have a optic fiber cable plugged into the SFP. Do I need it for my router?