That's fine and dandy until you put the connecting rod through the side of the block from over revving. The governor is in there for a reason besides regulating engine speed and power output. Unless you install a billet aluminum connecting rod in it don't expect the engine to last long, the oem aluminum rod will break
read 99% of forums and they'll tell you, the Honda will get valve float long before any hard failure, of rod or flywheel, any hard failure is possible but its always circumstantial
Been told not to upgrade the springs until you have upgraded the rod and flywheel as the valve float from stock springs will save your engine from being over revved
not sure if id take it out on my gx160 tbh but was worth a watch for ideas and stuff i got same engine i was putting on my RU-vid project over at notts modified car channel but i shall see got some good videos fella keep up the work :)
So i did this and i covered the hole at the top of the motor and now it wont start up.. any idea what happened? I think there is no compression because the pull cord has no resistance.. if you could help it would be much appreciated
Could be a number of things mate. Have you ever had trouble with the pull start sprawl before? The bits that flick put and engage the pull start? If that's fine then pull the side cover off and make sure the timing marks are aligned. If you have a little resistance but no compression resistance its likely the timing/cam gear has moved from its position when you lifted the cover. Let us know what you find :)
Haha I did the very same thing but could no longer get compresure and I thought my engine is doomed! But hey don't worry just go check on the trappers and re-adjust it to get the compresure and you are good to go
If you just disconnect it there is a possibility of the internals of the governor letting go and becoming debris. This can in turn completely destroy the engine
While it is a solution it can cause issues. The governor can actually tear apart inside the engine and cause catastrophic damage. So I would recommend removing it completely and correctly
It's very suitable. Those extra holes are there for a reason. To utilize. Using them will cause no harm as thats how this was designed. Actually, removing the governor can cause the motor to detonate like a bomb at high ungoverned speeds. Using the holes on the arm are specifically what you are supposed to do. Want to ride around on a bomb? Degovern a Chinese predator. I bought a tillotson
@@effyoo6081 some motors don't have several holes. Like the Honda gx120 in the demo. If you leave the governer in and rev it harder the governor can tear itself to pieces which will cause catastrophic failure. While one could argue the point of having a flywheel explode, Honda's being a well made engine its been proven many times over that they'll get valve float before anything serious happens like catastrophic failure like you're saying. The weak point is the cast flywheel as many carting forums will tell you, people have had them shatter when pushing them but only when they've dome alot.of other work to make them rev
@@T.A.G absolutely. Little gear inside is plastic and will tear to shreds. If it has no holes in the arm, don't drill any, remove the gov. I remove all of mine, honda, predator, tilly, but they all have four locations on the arm. Including the hondas. Even my duralast has them.
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@ricobico1872 not quite. It's well documented that these engines get valve float before they shatter flywheels etc. But that being said. It's to be taking with caution with everything you modify.
Bro. Im from india. I have a gasoline water pump. 3hp. Going to modif as long tail boat motor. Can i remove governer and control speed on carburetor. Please advice.
Make a new linkage to the carburator or there are even better aftermarket carburators out there.. Get the governor spring off and the link to the throttle, and you do not have to open the gear case.Govenor has no more influence now everything is manual.
If I remove the governor on a gx200, why do I have to remove the governor arm? If it is not contacting the removed governor, isn't is just a pivot at this point?
What i did is ground it down to like 2 or 3 cm and put the pin in and put some gasket sealer on it and put it back in. Nothing to rattle around and stop oil from spraying out
correct. If you want more HP you need more fuel more ignition timing more air and better cooling. The governor only limits speed. I can tune my L100 from 9hp to 15hp but anything past 11hp and it starts to get hot quick.
@@chris-jb5ds I run my tillotson 212r at around 12hp. 10 out of the box. Its the perfect long haul motor. Power and longevity. I hate walking back if something happens
@@DarkLinkAD sadly, no. Removing the governor gives no additional horsepower. It merely lets the motor spin up to higher rpm's. Higher rpm means more top speed at the same horsepower. I'd love to see your dyno test, where did you get that info. The fact you say "8 or 9" means you have no idea. Adding a header and bigger jets,now that makes more horses. More air and fuel, more hp. Add 18lb springs to keep that mixture tight, more hp. Add induction(forced air) hp. Add nitrous, more volatile powerful fuel, more hp. Higher spins adds no hp. It merely unlocks the full spin potential.
@@tom6493 RPM is how many rotations the engine will do every minute and horsepower is how much weight a engine can push on each ignition stroke. So by taking the government out on a Honda gx160 engine will not increase the horsepower it will only increase the RPM range the throttle stays wide open for longer the governor will restrict to 3000rpm because the governor is made up of centrifugal weights so when an engine has reached the 3000rpm the weight will spin out that is pushing a lever that will transfer it through a rod that is attached to the throttle
@@obviouslytwo4u really? Well I never knew that…🙄🤦♂️ I’m also fully aware what a Governor does as I’ve worked on marine diesels bigger than your house so wind your beak in, you might learn something. Firstly, Horsepower is NOT “how much weight an engine can push on each ignition stroke”. Torque is the effort (work, or weight as you’re calling it) and HP is how much work can be done in a given time, hence why HORSEPOWER is a function of TORQUE x REVOLUTIONS PER MINUTE. The engine may be rated at 6.5hp at a governed RPM but that doesn’t mean its ALL the engine can produce. Secondly, the Governor, which is actuated via spinning weights (at least you got that bit right), operates DIRECTLY on the throttle butterfly, controlling the air/fuel flow, it’s the removal of this control and not the Governor itself that increases RPM as the butterfly can then be opened fully, allowing more air and fuel in, increasing RPM and thus, power. Don’t believe me, you’re on RU-vid, I suggest you use it to enlighten yourself…
@@obviouslytwo4u fuck it, let’s give you a quick maths lesson: if we use 6.5hp at 3000rpm and work backwards, we can find the torque (in lbs/ft) so, 6.5/3000 x 5252 =11.38lbs/ft. Now we know the torque, we can calculate the HP for a higher RPM, e.g. 11.38 x 5000/5252 = 10.84hp. See, simple…
Hell, while you're removing your governor, might as well install a turbocharger and nitrous. Seriously, bad advice removing the governor. The factory wouldn't install it if it wasn't necessary. It's REAL hard taking your channel serious after this.
It's also an engine made for 100 uses. Do some research. These things get valve float long before anything drastic happens, also any modification tk increase power will decrease engine life.
@@joelpyy446 definitely worth it but it has to be done right. Have s Google and do a bit of research to see if it's right for you. It can reduce engine life and other mods may have other affects too
Well you should take a punch and drink a screwdriver there mr helpful.. who gives a hard fuck? Do you stand next to the guys when you bring in your car for any work and nag em the whole time?
@@motorsandmeats88 you could measure the hole with a vernier. And tap the hole and put a bolt in it. Or some jb weld and a bolt etc. I've seen people use a nut, bolt and washer but I wouldn't trust it
1. Put the camera on the tripod to film, because you did a shitty shoot; 2. In order to cancel the governor, loosen the fastening screw of the lever and thus cancel his action; 3. Without proof, I don't think you've improved anything on the engine.
First. I tried a new way of shooting. If you don't like it. Cool. Second. If you just disconnect the governed you'll destroy the internals of the engine as the governed internals are still in there and will let go at higher rpm sending ball bearings into the precious crank area, as well chunks of plastic and steel. Third. If you don't like it or trust it then don't do it. Hence the disclaimer. Thanks for watching
Yep. Because the engine was designed as a service engine to only rev to around 3000. However you can unlock a bunch of power like many people do when using the engine for another purpose. The engine life will suffer but the performance gains far outweigh the difference. Also most service machines only need the 3000rpm for fuel economy when using whichever tool it is. Karts and buggies etc don't need that