How to replace your Toyota brakes : Part 2 Pad Preparation 

Thank you Ahmed!

I cant either man. Solid Gold!! Ty again car care nut!!!

@@TheCarCareNut Thanks a lot, very nice tips and clear. I got AISIN brake pads for my Corolla Hybrid 2015 wagon and it was made in Italy. It is said made for Corolla wagon and RAV4. I thought it will be the same as Advics (Aisin subsidiary) original Toyota pads but I was wrong. They are almost identic but not the same, it is probably semi-metalic too and R90 certified. Do you think all Aisin parts are actually OEM of Toyota? I know that all Toyota transmission are made by Aisin. The price of Toyota OEM pads 04465-42180 is €191 in Europe and $104 in USA, compared to Aisin €30. Besides that, the original Advics brake disc is not painted/coated. I bought Zimmermann Brake Disc for 1/2 price (€35) instead of €80 for Advics disc. Is there any reasons why Toyota parts is so expensive in Europe compared to USA? I think this is the main reasons Toyota is not as popular yet in Europe.

Aisin and denso are oem suppliers for toyoya

@@TheCarCareNut Thanks, I noticed the Toyota parts are identical with Aisin waterpump and Advics pads, Denso evaporator, compressor, etc. but only when I was in USA. I found AISIN sell coolant with blue colors called Ultra Longlife coolant, and ATF6+ that specified for WS, DexronVI, Mercon V, Honda, some ZF transmission etc. It makes me think that actually Dexron VI and other ATF are indeed compatible

Why is it low?

I second this comment, and because we are car care nuts I recommend inspecting the pins every spring while you are taking off your winter tires. It's not so much an extension of brake life, but more of a quality of operation assurance measure. In Northern Canada we have a lot of water, slush, sand and salt on our roads at winter time, and you might be suprised what can get past those boots. I'm even going to the extent of ordering new pins and boots pre-emptively before a brake job just in case there is wear on the pins, or the boots have lost their elasticity or swollen from previous incorrect greasing. Now that I think of it, it's probably a good idea to check pad movement because the corrosion between shim and bracket is always tightening the clearances for those pads to slide freely. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to re-apply grease to the shims and pad ears at this time... this is what I do. I just appreciate the smooth operation and modulation experience. I suspect stopping distance is affected by regular caliper service, but don't have the measurements to back this up :)

Avtar Nanrey thank you Avtar! Hows your FJ doing?

The Car Care Nut I used Lubegard Dr. tranny Instant shudder fix and it fixed the vibration for now. I have a feeling that these kind of additives are temporary solution. What do you think?

Hard to tell Avtar. I suppose time will tell. I hope it’s permanent though! Keep me posted.

I was under the assumption we should use copper based anti seize for the the pad ears/fit kit locations and not silicon grease. (not the pins). What do you think?

@@pgreenx if it's dedicated grease for the job then i think it's not that important what's the composition

@@ripptorr ok thanks.

Would it be the same for the Prius?? I heard many say to unplug the battery because the caliper will close and can end up getting your fingers crossed. Also. Bleeding the break fluid on a Prius can harm the system if is not don’t properly?? Thank you

Hello Paul regarding hybrid brakes I will follow up with another video on that. However I will say that hybrid brakes should be serviced with the car off. And bleeding is a bit complicated and should be done with a scan tool.

I’d say you got everything you need. Perhaps brake grease?

Thank you for watching my videos! I try to keep a positive attitude at work but I admit there are moments that things go south and it becomes hard to stay positive but that is rare and I usually keep my cool it actually makes working on cars go better.

I'm gonna stop by at your shop soon. I love all your videos. The first video I watched was the 2018 to 2020 review you did on camry. That really assist me in choosing which camry to go for. Be expecting me soon.

Good to hear!!! It was between akebono pads and toyota oem. I ordered toyota oem pads

He says Silicon high temp. Also, the shim's which should be included with the brakes of high quality will come with the grease.

Thank you for watching! If you’re doing the work yourself and not paying labor then it’s definitely worth it

So that is why they squeal in the morning or after being parked for some time?

Hi! Usually they are automatically transferred unless they’re broke or rusty at which point they will recommend new ones

Hi! The pin with the rubber seal you can just install the seal back on it. If the seal is swollen or worn you can get it separately from the pin from the dealership for a few bucks. That seal is there so the caliper won’t rattle. I wouldn’t worry about the location of the pin with the seal. I’ve seen them mixed without problems.

Hi! I don’t recommend replacement if it’s working well

Some Toyota pads are made by advics. I haven’t seen ones made by akebono

@@TheCarCareNut Okay. The independent mechanic I sometimes visit is very trustworthy, but never uses OEM parts lol. Thanks for showing us the difference in OEM quality!

Hi! As long as it’s high temp approved it should be good

Let me know if you figure this out!

Hi! Yes I do put grease there. Any silicone high temp grease will work

@@TheCarCareNut I noticed that there was rust (dust) on the caliper bracket. That part usually is made of cast iron which rusts a lot. At our shop we rarely see rust between the brake pad ears and the shim kit (steel and Stainless steel respectively). Consequently we only put grease between the fit kit shims and the caliper bracket where the rust occurs and causes a condition called rust jacking that requires hammering the pads out of the caliper as you mentioned in the video..

Hi! If you live in an area with salt use in the winter it wouldn’t hurt to clean and check them every year or two

The shims are anti-squeal shims and the instructions in the box do say to always replace them. They could be thrown away and not affect the braking. Honda includes the shims with pads at about the same price as Toyota without the shims. Toyota sells the shims about the same cost as the pads. I always clean and grease the shims and have never had any problems, noise or otherwise. In this case Toyota just trying to sell more parts.

Hi! The rubber piece for the pin should come separate from the pad holder. I don’t have access to the system right now for torque specs. Try to leave a comment tomorrow and I’ll dig it up for you.

@@TheCarCareNut Thanks for the reply CCN. One of the RAv4 forum posters states it is 55 foot pounds for the stabilizer link bolts for top and bottom. Can you verify this as correct for my 07 V6 limited? Thanks CCN-U are one of if not the best RU-vid channels for Toyota help!!!

That is correct. 55 ft lbs for front and rear upper. 22 ft lbs for rear lower

@@TheCarCareNut You're the BEST!!!

Hi! Yes they should be able to if they can duplicate the concern

If you don't replace the rotors, you might just install new pads without resurfacing the rotors and losing some thickness as long as your pads still had a good amount left on them. If you wait until the pads are almost completely worn out, the rotors would have been ruined. Replacing the pads and keeping the rotors might be OK on smaller sedans but somewhat dangerous on a heavy SUV. On my 2005 4Runner, I did the 5th gen brake upgrade last year and it is so much better. Pictures: photos.app.goo.gl/UdGkvUs2eMFKq5jp7 Toyota 4Runner Upgrading 4th Gen to 5th Gen Brakes and Caliper ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5euQp5ViMAk.html ________ Do the 5th gen upgrade here: www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/249328-5th-gen-4runner-brakes-upgrade-4th-gen-4runner.html Also, read through the whole thread. You want 4th gen rotors with 5th gen calipers in the rear. Lastly, get Napa remans with a lifetime warranty. One of the better caliper options, and when they seize its a simple swap at your local Napa. ----- Parts from Rock Auto and Advance Auto: Front: painted 5th gen (2010, do not use 2016 model year) calipers, painted 2010 rotors, 2010 ceramic pads. Rear: painted 5th gen (2010) rotors, painted 4th gen rotors, semi-metallic brake pads. Plenty of dot 3 brake fluid to flush the system. You want 4th gen rotors and pads with 5th gen calipers in the rear. RockAuto Order Confirmation Order Tuesday, April 28, 2020 11:11 AM Central Time Part Number Part Type Price EA Core EA Quantity Total No Vehicle Specified AKEBONO ACT976 Brake Pad $ 40.79 $ 0.00 1 $ 40.79 POWER STOP S6278 Caliper $ 83.79 $ 48.00 2 $ 263.58 2010 TOYOTA 4RUNNER 4.0L V6 RAYBESTOS 980784 Rotor $ 58.79 $ 0.00 2 $ 117.58 Shipping Ground $ 50.87 Tax $ 29.56 Order Total $ 502.38 When the last item on your order ships, we will send an email listing tracking numbers for all the items on the order. To CHECK ORDER STATUS, MAKE CHANGES, ARRANGE A RETURN (including Cores) or REPORT A PROBLEM visit www.rockauto.com/orderstatus Please print this page as your receipt. Core Return for calipers: $96 shipping Total cost: $502.38 - $96 = $406.38 Pictures: photos.app.goo.gl/myyWB6NNEoxKaqni9 ____ I also bought the rear calipers from Rock Auto. You might be able to find kits on eBay that are cheaper. Rock Auto Rear Power Stop Brake Calipers Pictures: photos.app.goo.gl/UdGkvUs2eMFKq5jp7 5-7-2020 Costco - tire balancing - 5/7/2020 Tires: 34 psi (measured warm) Odometer: 85,800 miles Car seems to drive better with balanced tires. photos.app.goo.gl/2E8D9hh9EdrEA3cX7 5-4-2020 Odometer: 85,822 miles Tires rotated - front criss-crossed to the back; back tires straight forward Front brakes - parts from Rock Auto - 5th gen painted calipers, Raybestos painted rotors, Akebono pads - $500 labor $220 Rear brakes - parts from Advance Auto plus labor - $300 Parts from Advance Auto: Carquest Wearever Gold Ceramic Brake Pads - Rear (4-Pad Set) GNAD606: Advance Auto Parts shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/carquest-wearever-gold-ceramic-brake-pads-rear-4-pad-set-gnad606/10151943-P? $35.99 ____ CARQUEST Platinum Painted Brake Rotor - Rear YH145330P: Advance Auto Parts - $66.99 shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/carquest-platinum-painted-brake-rotor-rear-yh145330p/11395623-P? photos.app.goo.gl/3h8YQ3gjc43NqNTu5 My REAR brakes were completely worn out. I really noticed that just driving to the mechanic at Peterson and California (Citgo). Finishing up now. Front labor: $220 Rear new pads and rotors with labor: $300 Advance Auto - Carquest Platinum Painted Rotor; Carquest - Wearever Gold Premium Brake Pads

Hi! Just change the brakes like a normal gasoline only model just don’t open the hydraulic circuit.

@@TheCarCareNut thanks man I was waiting for your reply 😊

Hi! No need to grease the inner shim.

For what it’s worth my Honda has the same arrangement and it does matter. Go check the brake schematics on the Toyota parts website and you will see which one goes where. Good luck. I’m still learning but the schematics help a lot.

That has varied from model to model but we’ve put them both ways and didn’t seem to make a difference.

Hi! You can

@@TheCarCareNut thank you!

So technically they don’t. But I’ve seen cases of pads separating from the backing or cracking after they’ve been on the car for a long time. Brakes should be inspected regularly as part of the cars maintenance inspections. When the technician sees that I would then replace them. Otherwise nothing to worry about.

If they’re original they hold on very well

There’s some acceptable pad shift from the factory. I wouldn’t attempt to tighten the pads or force something to hold them as that will cause brake drag

The Car Care Nut What do you tell the customers when they complain? It’s normal?

I don’t tell them it’s normal until I bring a brand new car and show them that it does the same so they don’t feel like I’m ignoring their concern.

The Car Care Nut Thank you, sir. I love your videos. I used to be a Toyota tech also 18 years ago but now I work at the Pre-delivery shop.

Some thing new i learn here, putting some thin layer of grease at back of the pads and shift pad. I sent my car for brake service last week at SC because having noise. They only greasing the fitting kit but not on back pad. The noise is still there. I'll going back to them to do pad greasing. Thanks for sharing.

Hi! This video is for an old value line of pads as shown in the video. These pads are actually discontinued because they’re horrible. Replaced with different ones that use the oem shims and don’t come with shims.

@@TheCarCareNut I plan to buy a set of Toyota front pads for my ‘18 camry. Do you know if they come with shims?

Either version doesn’t come with pads. There’s the factory ones which are semi metallic and more expensive. Then there’s the ceramic value ones which are cheaper. The value ones will have the letters AZ in their part number

@@TheCarCareNut much appreciated. Love your channel!!!

Not always. They’ve used many manufacturers over the yeats

@@TheCarCareNut Do you know what manufacturers they use now? And who have they used previously?

They use a lot of advics lately

Thanks. Is the same grease that you applied for the fitting kit acceptable for the hub/rotor mating surface?

Yes it can work for that as well

That was a different era in the channel. I would’ve done it in one single video

Could you email me your VIN no as there might be more than one option for parts.

Possibility of brake noise increases

Hi! This applies to TCMC pads which came with their own shims. These pads are discontinued and value pads now don’t come with shims.

@@TheCarCareNut Thank you.

@@TheCarCareNut Great. I am doing a 2006 Highlander brakes. I will follow your technique. I bought value brakes, shims, and finishing kit. Thanks for this video.

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@@Hernsama if you search "Genuine Toyota Brake Pad Installation Best Practices" on RU-vid you will find a video from Toyota Complete Maintenance Care showing how to properly apply the grease, and in which areas to apply it depending on your particular pad configuration.

​​@@fhp2byou still spread it with your finger, don't be ridiculous.

Hi! Thank you for your feedback! So I took out all background music at some point in my videos and going forward no background music! Lighting I’m working on improving

@@TheCarCareNut thx, the lighting is good in my opinion