How to shoot in the dark with GH5 or any camera 

I'm not sure what else is there to test. Colour noise, grain, makro blocking? What would you be interested of?

Yea those would be good. Also, how high the “6K” ISO can go still being useable vs normal 4K.

Vania Brewda you are wellcome. Good to be at service.

True that. I should add it to the description as well. In the end of the video it's there.

TOLife I’m not sure if there is really a difference in noise between profiles or is the noise just more visible in v-log. You can just push down in grading. I´ll do some test later on.

Thanks Andy. There isn't too many comments so I have time to answer them now and then. I hope to have more time to do more videos as well.

I recommend shooting the same scene with both profiles and then lift (make bright) the shadows up from the cine-v profile to same level as the V-log or push v-log down (make dark) to the level of cine-v. I would assume they're not to be much of a difference in 10bits. 8bits maybe because V-log is not so good in 8bits. While you are at it, try to compare HLG, Cine-V and V-log. You might get interesting results.

There is a 0,95 native lens? Is it manual?

Yes. My bad I meant Voigtlander 17 mm 0.95 MFT & 25 MM both are amazing lenses Manual Focus and these are probably the sharpest best low light lenses for the GH5. I also have an Olympus I use for wide angle but it's not as good as Vogtlander it's a 12mm f1.8

SpectreSoundStudios Hi, it's the sigma 18-35mm f1.8 Nikon glass that I use with the metabones adapter.

Yep. all are 10bit 4k and 6k. Vivid is recorded into rec709 colour space when v-log is panasonic v-gamut. v-gamut is larger than adobe RGB so it's rather large. You can see it sometime like with the clipping saturation on this video. I'll do some videos about colour spaces and stuff soon.

Is Cine-D same as Vivid -> rec709? Yea explanation of relationship between color space and 8/10bit would be very nice. I thought that bits are what defines how many color gradiens you get... But apparently there is more to it.

Colour space is how what colours can be captured and how the colours are captured. Dynamic range is how wide is the distance between totally black and totally white. Bit depth is how many steps there is between totally white and totally black. I'll do some videos about these later on to explain these all and what's the practical application of them

Thanks for the explanation. :)

You are wellcome!

Thanks! It came faster than I thought. Next goal? ;-) 10k?

The Unknown One you are corret, and I'm leaning my doing. It was a setting in my recording software.

Thanks! True that. It was a setting in my streaming software. Noise gate -effect. I'm learning by doing. :-)

I agree with both of you :D

Sure I'll try my best. Thanks!

I have not noticed more noise with vlog compared to other profiles when v-log is graded to match the other profiles. Though with high iso Vlog seems to give more colour noise (3200iso) than the other profiles, but with good lenses you rarely need to go that high. So you prefer cine-d to v-log in low light? Does it have less noise or better colour?

Joo.Works I prefer vlog at all times...especially with all-I update. I have lenses that open to .95, 1.1, and 1.4....but if I can't get the waveform acceptable...CineD and natural are next. But this is because I'm grading and showing my narratives on big screens. For vacation videos or out of the camera...cineV and portrait are ones I try first...and vivid. I think each person's circumstances are different. And like you did experiment with different settings. Which is a joy on gh5

Hey! I'm interested where do you see the difference in the 400 mbps codec? I'm lost I just don't see it. I did some tests and didn't realise it. If you do big screen stuff then you might have better eye for it.

Joo.Works it's not "that" big of a difference in normal shots. Shots with smoke, fire,,water are better with the ALL-I. The rest is tough to see. The good news is with a gh5 and all-I, you are able to be hired for Netflix productions because the camera fits the criteria for use. A big thing for working DP's...

Hmm.. I have a shoot comming where we are playing around with fire. Maybe I'll shoudl test it then. I just hope that the netflix part is relevant for me someday. :-D

Vagabond-Dogs TV! Leica primes are actually quite fast. Sigma 18-35mm with the speedbooster is pretty much the same as leica 25mm 1.4... as fast.

Thank you! I just discovered the Olympus 25mm 1.2 which I hope will be great for night video. Gets good reviews so I think it will be my first lens.

Thanks man!

As I sad in the video, lenses are more important than the body. There is some tips later on in the video that apply to all lenses.

Would you say you need a speedbooster with the GH5 are necessary if you already own Nikon's 24mm 1.4 and 50mm 1.4 lenses? What about 2.8 lenses? Speedboosters go for 479 for Nikon Lenses, pretty expensive even after buying the camera. Have you tried testing with and without a speedbooster like just a regular convert mount?

I really recomend getting the speed booster... well native leica lenses might be good as well. I had the leica 25mm 1,4 and it behaved rather similar to the sigma at 35mm at 1,8mm But was much smaller.

Yeah. absolutely right since almost every panasonic lumix has a great video performance

How are you shooting video in 6k?

Whit good noise reduction I would call 3200 iso usable on the gh5. Try it out with neat video noise removal plugin.

Thanks. I've used Neat before and it's very good. For some reason it was not that good on my GH4, but it was better than not using it. Perhaps the GH5 will be better. The GH5S promises to be much better in low light, so perhaps a de-noiser will not be required.

J.D. Hughes yes, there is a limit on how low light you really want to shoot. The neat video is really good at 3200. At 6400 the image starts to fall part. Test it out, my requirements are not that high, for I do videos mostly to web.

I did try it at 3200, but it is poor for film use, although the GH5 makes up for the lack with its other features, internal 10 bit 4-2-2 for instance. Used Neat again and it is an improvement, but still not clean enough above 800 ISO/ASA, although probably good for Vlogging. Anyway, what do I know, I'm just a retired director still wading through reels of 16/35mm film :)

J.D. Hughes I like to keep the iso at 400 or 800. It's the sharpest, but I would add 3200 (+neatvideo) if needed to the mix. :-) I started shootin, at 6k, because premiere suddently started supportin, it. I'm loving the quality and now the difference in iso is really clear.

The rule for shutter is normally to use 180 degree shutter. That's from the time of film and cinema cameras. There was this rolling wheel inside the camera that had half of open half closed. So 180 degrees of the wheel was closed. When the wheel was turning and the open part was visible the film inside that camera stayed put, but when the wheel was closed (other 180 degree) the film moved inside the camera to the next frame on the film roll. So in practice that means that if you shoot 25fps your shutter should be half of that 1/50s. Because each turn of the wheel, half was open half was closed. So if you shoot slowmo 60fps you should have your shutter at half of that 1/120. But if you want to get more light into the film/sensor you can now keep the shutter open all the time, like having a 360 degree shutter wheel. That was not possible when the film needed to move inside the camera. If you shoot 360 degree you'll get more motion blur for there is more time for objects to move during the exposure of the frame, but other that that there is no draw back. So for max light, shooting 24/25 fps use 1/25s shutter. If you shoot 60fps use minimum of 1/60s shutter.

Joo.Works wow. Thank you for such a long and comprehensive answer:) Good luck 👍 👌

Well it can add a different effect depending on how long u keep the shutter open. As said above, There was a spinning wheel inside the camera that did a full revolution in 1/24th of a second. However it was a half circle. So the exposure was only 1/48th of a second. However, this didn’t stop film makers from Experimenting. They developed a wheel that u could change the shape of by either decreasing or increasing the gap between the beginning and the end of the half circle. Aka. decreasing/increasing shutter angle. Increasing the shutter angle, so making it anything higher that 180 degrees, exposed the film for longer which creates more motion blur. If u decrease the angle, so more Pac-Man shaped and less then 180 degrees, exposed the film for a shorter period of time. So There is less motion blur. See the battle at the beginning of gladiator for use of both, and the beginning of saving private Ryan as an example of smaller shutter angle. You’ll notice when things fly in the air they seem almost choppy. I’d say movement in the frame seems much more kinetic. On DSLR’s tho, instead of shutter angle it’s shutter speed, used for still photography. There is an equation to figure out the correspondence tho. To go from shutter angle to shutter speed it’s: 360 divided by the shutter angle times 24 (ex. 360/90=4 --> 4x24=96). So shutter speed is 1/96th. To go shutter speed to shutter angle it’s: 24 times 360 times shutter speed (ex. 24x360=8,640 --> 8,640x1/96=90) so shutter angle is 90 degrees. Hope this is helpful!

Christopher Jahn Have you gained an answer? I’m interested in this question

Yes you can. The metabones should work on any m43 mount camera.

That's great news, thanks so much, btw- you have a great channel here- thanks for all your hard work and bringing people this great information, I will visit here often, cheers to you.