This is the best and most insightful analysis of Pat’s sound I’ve ever seen. With that upstroke and avoidance of the 6th, he really does sound like Pat.
phenomenal lesson that keeps giving...just revisited it and filled in most of the blanks from my first visit what a journey into Pats music...you the man Marbin...btw lovely house
Cool video, man! Rick Beato touched upon the "Metheny sound" a while back. You should check it out if you haven't seen it yet. He goes into depth on the actual gear/settings. The late '80s/early '90s was the Metheny stuff I first got into as well (around the mid '90s). Another important feature, that I've noticed and adopted, is the way he often will do quick pre-bends (by like just a quarter-tone, or maybe half-step at the most) before various notes he'll sustain.
Great ananysis! As someone else pointed out, he also moves augmented triads around, seemingly outside the key at times, but always brings it back to resolve.
Your analyses of every player is incredible! What a great Educator!!! Dan you literally BLOW AWAY those Instagram guitar guys.So does Jay Roberts. Its crazy how the kids who at least don't follow the crap music, still don't know whats good out there.
This is the most explicative video about pm style. Please can you do a second video? Analizing more aspects of pm style? Maybe something more about harmony or chords used by pm? Or simply what you noticing more about his style. So, please another video lesson on pm? Say me yes!? Ok? Thanks 😊
also what he does is stretch the string just a little bit within the same fret with his left hand finger towards his right hand up until he crosses the fret a bit, this causes a mute effect and also decreases the note frequency a bit; generally there's a lot of expressive movement with his left hand on the strings, not just hitting the frets mechanically
@@z3nish it wasnt that I doubted him. I just wanted to find an example. I know some examples where he does this, for example a live version of "dont know why" by Nora Jones. But to me it almost sounds like he is making mistakes.
@@svensvensson6705 interesting, maybe he really is sometimes almost making mistakes? i was trying to find some videos of him being more free on the guitar but they were removed from youtube or i can't find them anymore; anyway, do you know his work with derek bailey?
Awesome tutorial on some nice fine points of Metheny's approach! They're great even if we're not trying to sound like him, but who doesn't want to sound like Metheny? Haha. I was hoping you would touch further on the chromatic thing - you did a little on the picking one string than hammering on the other string. But he takes it further and turns it into what I call his insane "lick from hell." I'm sure you know what I'm talking about! I wish I could figure that one out. Anyway, thanks for a great tutorial!
Great video man! do you have any idea of his philosophy for comping? i don't think he's using the traditional drop 2.. there's something there in his comping i can't get my head around.. thanks.
Excellent rundown - I like especially the avoidance of the 6th. The 6th tends to obscure the harmony, i.e. it hints to the degree a fourth above the degree you're in. I just wanted to add one vital aspect of Pat Metheny's playing and that is his rhythm; Pat just GROOVES, as if there's a full-on rhythm section hiding within his lines. His lesson on ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UAc1CytLStw.html is quite an eye opener.
People don't realize that if you're playing a hollow body, the guitar has it's own acoustic sound coming through to you. Depending on how loud the amp is you will get completely different sounds (to you) each time you play at different volumes. The sound coming from the amp IS completely different. I used to think my sound was brittle because my amp was far away and my Broadway guitar is very loud on it's own.
I actually wondered if you played a GR-300 guitar synth (aka "The Blue Box") on "Aggressive Hippies" - Pat Metheny made this guitar synth box pretty famous... Saw you guys in College Park MD a few weeks back - your albums have been in constant rotation in my car since :)
They're fun as hell to play - because they track in the analog domain they're as fast as possible and will track things like deep whammy bar bends - I have a guitar with a Floyd rose setup which you can bend until the strings are just hanging and the GR-300 will track it until they aren't vibrating anymore :)
I've been influence by Pats sound for almost 40 years. My latest "This Is A Good Day" released yesterday and is a happy nod to 'New Chautauqua". 2 years ago I did a tribute song to Pat Metheny Group called "The Direction of Wind". Absolutely love that ethereal sound he and Lyle (RIP) achieved!
Yeah, as of now i am using benzon picking technique,(somehow similar to Pat but using only one finger to grip the pick) and it sound really different as compared to standard picking.
Still Life Talking & Letter from Home = 2 Killer Albums. Wonder what pedals he has on his pedalboard? He is a very Airy-Jazz player. This was really excellent.
Michael Caz no pedals. Rolls his tone off, adds two delays units to achieve a chorusing effect (or at least used to) and that’s about it. The rest in in the fingers. He also uses a Roland gr300
I think it's a Gibson ES-335. The ES-330 has single coil P90 pickups, and the 335 has humbuckers, which is what he has. I had to watch closely for him to bring the headstock in frame, and is says " Gibson." Because the nut doesn't say "Gibson," it could look like an Epiphone, however, Epiphones usually have an "E" on the nut.
If you want to sound like Pat Metheny, watch this intently . If you want to be like Pat Metheny, watch this intently, then forget about it and find out how to sound like “YOU”.
Listen to Mr. Rabin's comments in his "How to Play Like Allan Holdsworth" video - he analyzes a lot of players very well but he notes that doesn't really play in his own music like that. He's got his own style that doesn't really remind me of Pat or Allan or Scott Henderson. But sometimes things like this can let us dabble in those universes for a while. "It's nice to visit, but don't move in and take all of their furniture..."
Hey Dani, I just wanted to say thanks for your great video on Pat Metheny - loved it! I also hate to ask, but which guitar do you have? I am thinking of getting a hollow body, but am not so keen on the sound/shape of ones like his, but I really like your 'flat' hollow body one :) Thanks! cheers, Dan
@@marbinmusic The one that you are playing in this video about Pat Metheny? I thought the 335 was more of an 'archtop' hollow-body - the one in this video looks like a 'flat' hollow-body :) Thanks! cheers, Dan
@@marbinmusic Wow! I can't see the arch at all... I thought it was 'flat' (maybe cause it also looks more 'slim' than other archtops? :) which is kinda what I am looking for - a slim 'flat' hollow-body with f-holes :) Thanks again! cheers, Dan
Cool! I just found an archtop that I can afford... I had been looking at flat ones, cause they are cheaper, but I just got an Epiphone Dot Natural with a cracked neck that had been repaired for 1/2 price! I love the 'Pat Metheny' type sound it makes :)
