How to Speak With Jehovah's Witnesses. With Guest Kelly Powers 

WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?

WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?

Whats the point of refuting their dictrine. U both will be in the kingdom

@@indo3052 Nope. He won't

@@richbaker7187 what u mean?

@@indo3052 Seemed pretty clear what I meant. What did YOU think it meant?

@@richbaker7187 why wouldnt both enter the kingdom?

I feel you so much because I’m in a situation very Similar always pray for him and yesss apologetics help a lot

@@Mr.DC3.1914 just stop with this same copied and pasted crap you put on all the other channels and you have repeated to me over and over and OVER. You know who I am at this point and as such, this makes you a troll. You don’t understand what trinitarians believe so quit pretending like you do.

@@anagabrielagzz7236 so glad you understand my plight. I will never give up on him. I care way too much. I have studied this religion, their literature, their kingdom interlinear and have written notes and inserted tabs pointing to other related scripture to see the WHOLE bible rather than their cherry-picked nonsense and it’s all a bunch of Watchtower lies and worshipping 9 men in New York. It’s sad. You CANT read the WHOLE Bible and believe even half that nonsense, regardless of how someone sees the Trinity.

Praying for you and your S.O! I would definitely pray for the best and prepare for the worst. I went through a similar situation; however, I was blindsided by it. One day he told me he couldn’t see or talk to me any more. He needed to get in good standings with the congregation. And then he was gone; felt like someone I loved died! It was the craziest thing I have ever been through! Apologetics also became a passion of mine. Apologetics, JW. Studies and the Trinity. It’s been a very enlightening experience for me! God bless!

@@EmberSun yes, early on in studying this cult, I realized that i too could be on borrowed time and if he does go back, they are going to tell him to get rid of me. I understand that my attempts to witness could fail and lead me to getting heartbroken. That’s ok. I have had far worse things done to me. Great things don’t come without risk. Regardless, I have learned so much and never would have gotten into apologetics if it wasn’t for him. The irony that he has brought me closer to God than anyone else ever has. It’s worth the potential pain I could feel later.

WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?

Where, specifically, do you believe the holy words have been disrespected?

@@evanwindom3265 Are you saying yes to the God Jesus worships?

@@bretherenlee1404 You didn't answer my question, so don't expect me to answer yours. Troll elsewhere.

Exactly. It's been proven to me time and again that a JW will go with what they have been told by the Watchtower rather than accept what the Word of God says. The Bible should be your authority. If it isn't, you're not a Christian. If someone is teaching you one thing but the Bible says the opposite, that should be your clue that you are being taught wrongly but with the majority of JWs , when confronted with this choice, they choose man (their leaders) and not God. They bow to man's authority over them, not God's. I used to think if I could show my mum scripture she'd understand and it's horrifying to come to the realisation that she didn't care what scripture says. And that's the issue. They don't care what the bible says as its not the bible they're following, it's the governing body. The governing body could tell them anything and they'd go along with it. It's awful

@@discoveringlisa486 is this a no to the trinity and Christmas and Easter?

Is Daniel Wallace superior to other professors?

David, did you actually listen to the video you posted the link to?! JWs, watch the video David posted. Watch the whole thing!

Hi David, I have some questions for you based on your comment: 1. How does translating the verse as "What God was, the Word was" change anything? What exactly do you think this proves? Wouldn't it mean that if God was eternal, the Word was *_also_* eternal (and not created), if God was divine, the Word was *_also_* divine? If God was "deity", the word was *_also_* "deity"? 2. What's the difference between having a divine nature and deity? 3. What else did Wallace say? (Let me help you with that one since you seem to have been less than inclusive in your analysis.) "What this is really saying, if we convert this into the persons of the Trinity, is 'In the beginning was the second person of the Trinity, and the second person of the Trinity was with the first person of the Trinity, and the word was, now, not the same person, but theos does not have an article in front of it, and it's thrown forward in the sentence to put an emphasis on it in terms of quality or essence.' The New English Bible has I think what's probably the best translation of this: 'What God was, the Word was' is how they do it. This is saying that the Word has the same essence as the Father but is not identical in person. It's the shortest, the briefest possible way that John could say there are at least two members of the Godhead, and they are distinct persons." He calls out that the Father and the Word are distinct persons that share the same essence. Regardless of what the WT may have told you, that is the Trinitarian position. The Trinity isn't composed of three that are the same person, but three persons of the same *_nature,_* that nature being "God". He's literally saying that the translation shows that there are at least two distinct persons in the Godhead, and you see that as somehow disproving the Trinity, or what? Can you help me understand exactly what conclusion you're reaching, and how you arrived at it, please? I genuinely want to understand what your comment is intended to convey. Are you really pinning your argument on "an over-translation" and choosing to disregard everything else Wallace said because it supports the concept of the Trinity? Is that really representing the source honestly and fairly? (Of course, my question there is predicated on an assumption that treating sources honestly and fairly means something, though JW history does leave some room for doubt in that arena. Lots and lots of doubt, as a matter of fact.)

​​@@evanwindom3265Thanks, how does this change the meaning and what do I think this proves? It proves how dishonest trinitarian bible translators are. You said "the Word was also eternal." Translating it as the NEB does not prove Christ had no beginning, anymore than humans having eternality does not prove they had no beginning (Rom 6:22,23), or that "eternal comfort and hope" did not have a beginning (2 Thess 2:16). 2 Thess 2:16 (EMTV): "may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who loved us and gave us eternal comfort and a good hope." This verse helps us to understand what Thomas meant when he said "My Lord (Jesus Christ Himself), and my God (and Father)." Only God the Father, who will reveal Christ, has immortality without beginning. Only God the Father gives life to all things, including giving life to Christ (1 Timothy 6:13-16). __________ 3. I merely thought it interesting that a trinitarian of his calibre would suggest that the typical rendering of John 1:1 is not the most accurate. Wallace said "if we convert this into the persons of the Trinity..." This is presuppositional hogwash. Trinitarians have been converting scriptures into the Trinity since Athanasius. JWs do not convert scripture, scripture converts JWs.

@@davidagnew8792 For a JW who uses a Bible "translated" by people with no knowledge of the languages of the original manuscripts to call other translators dishonest is ironic to say the least. You are the one who put forth that Wallace was right about the way the NEB translates the verse. If the Word was as God was, what traits are you leaving out, and what gives you the right to pick and choose?

you are wrong, the gb NEVER taught that they are prophets that foretell the future

⁠@@Mr.DC3.1914would you mind explaining why in the 2023 Annual meeting, what reason governing body member Winder read Amos 3:7 and said it conveys Jehovah’s confidence in them?

@@96t5wagon Because the word Prophet has many meanings and it does not always mean someone that foretells the future. The Master Jesus ENTRUSTED to the faithful slave, Mat 24 & 25.

@@Mr.DC3.1914 “Man’s natural desire to know the future is satisfied when he worships and serves his Grand Creator, for through God’s channel of communication He lovingly reveals ahead of time what it is good for man to know. (Am 3:7)” Insight Book Volume 1, pages 637-638. It’s pretty clear here that Winder is stating exactly what the predominant understanding of the word “prophet” conveys. To “reveal ahead of time” something supposedly stated by God. So, your statement that the gb have never taught that they are prophets that foretell the future is a lie as shown by your own publications.

@@96t5wagon Nope, YOU ARE WRONG. the gb teaches from the Bible that the gift of PROPHECY ENDED - 1 Corinthians 13:8 Love never fails. But if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away with

What does "whites first thinking" mean?

@@evanwindom3265 are you saying no to white racism?

@@evanwindom3265 a racist disagrees with God

What point are you trying to make, sir? Who, specifically, are you referring to apostates?

@@evanwindom3265 those that disregard the word of God to promote what are lies

@@bretherenlee1404 Anyone in particular come to mind, or are you just sort of broadly pontificating?

Soon? What do you mean when you say soon? And don’t just say “that’s what the bible says” - I want your understanding/definition of what soon means. If I tell my partner I will vacuum the living room soon and then still haven’t done it six months later, I was wrong to say I was going to do it soon. Also, God’s name in the bible is YAHWEH.

@LorenzoLlamas There is not one single manuscript on the face of this earth that shows Jesus using the Tetragrammaton. The Tetragrammaton is not found in over 5,000 Greek Manuscripts that’s been accounted for. Jesus continuously used the term “Father.” JWs have implemented the name “Jehovah” in their own Bible translation, and that’s an unhappy translation. Their reasoning is they’ve “restored God’s name” b/c the Apostles were quoting from the scrolls of the prophets. There’s a serious flaw to this line of reasoning; they’re not taking into consideration that the pronunciation of The Tetragrammaton was lost approx. 400 YEARS prior to Jesus’ ministry. It wasn’t some “superstition” that The Pharisees/Scribes had imposed on Jewish worshippers; during the Hellenistic period, many Jews became displaced & they literally forgot how to pronounce God’s name generation after generation. In order not to offend, Adonai, Elohim, El, were primarily used, & occasionally Shaddai, Tzevaot, & Ehyeh were used. So no, the early Apostles, Disciples were not using God’s name. The NWT appendix on Jehovah’s name has been grossly misrepresented. It’s part truth, & part lie. Yes, the Tetragrammaton appears some 6,800+ times in the Old Testament or Hebrew Scriptures; however, they’ve misinterpreted that Kyrios is a substitution for God’s name in the New Testament or Greek Scriptures. Not only is this not remotely corroborated, but Kyrios is found throughout the Greek Scriptures for JESUS HIMSELF. This is easily verified if u read the Kingdom Interlinear (The Hard Copy, not online version) that’s published by The Organization. The name Jehovah is actually an artificial name. The Masoretes Scribes added vowels to the Tetragrammaton to give it some sort of pronunciation while keeping it holy, so they took A from Adonai & E from Elohim to create YAHWEH. A Catholic Friar by the name of Raymond Martini discovered this almost 700 yrs later, & mistakenly latinized the name, not realizing why the Masoretes did what they did. Tynsdale is probably most infamous in taking the Latinized name, & creating the English version. For centuries, it was thought & accepted God’s name was Jehovah until research was done, & they realized it was a man-created name. From Smith’s Bible Dictionary of 1869: “Whatever, therefore, be the true pronunciation of the word, there can be little doubt that it is not Jehovah.” As the 1800’s rolled into the 1900’s, more & more scholars realized Jehovah was an artificial name, and was disrespectful to use, so either they replaced it w/ Lord (Adonai/Elohim) or Yahweh. Reformation religions like JWs have held fast to the name, rejecting all evidence provided, including misquoting scholars. Lastly, I saw u mentioned Isa. 43:10 to refer to Jehovah; well, at Acts. 1:8 Jesus reference that same passage for himself. The NWT actually have a subscript that’ll take u right back to that scripture. When Jesus said “I’ve made ur name known”, he was referring to Ehyeh (I am who I am) which is his first introduction to Moses. Jesus referred to himself as “I am” as well. The Old Testament (Hebrew Scriptures) is a prophecy about The Messiah, promises The Father had made that came to fulfillment through His Son.

Jesus never used the word "Jehovah" a single time. Not once. It didn't even exist until the Masoretes merged the vowel points from Adonai with the tetragrammaton in the 12th century CE. So that makes two points really clear: 1. It's not God's divine name because it was invented by man to help them avoid dishonoring God's name. 2. Jesus never used it since it didn't exist while he was on Earth. You're doing the same thing the WT has done for 150 years without justification -- inferring that scripture refers specifically to JWs in places where it does not. JWs claim that they were selected as "Jehovah's organization" in 1918. Prove that using scripture. They further claim that a "faithful and discrete slave" was appointed from among them in 1919. Prove that, if you can. You folks run around stating your doctrine as if it's fact, and then basing more arguments on those huge and unfounded assumptions.

What, in your theology, is "the gospel"?

@@evanwindom3265 so you think JESUS SINNED by REMOVING the DIVINE NAME in the OT when Jesus quoted it. you are wrong

How can you reconcile it with your well-trained conscience to publicly distort the unmistakable predictions in the Hebrew Scriptures in favor of your ideological preferences? The prophecy of Micah 4:1-5 and Isaiah 2:1-5 refers to the time of Christ's thousand-year reign and not to our present epoch before Christ's return. The people of God in the New Covenant were defined by the Apostle Peter in his first letter under divine inspiration as follows. 1 Peter 2,9-10 ( N W T Study Edition) 9 But you are “a chosen race, a r o y a l p r i e s t h o o d , a h o l y n a t i o n , a p e o p l e f o r special possession, that you should declare abroad the excellencies” of the One who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light 10 For y o u w e r e o n c e n o t a p e o p l e, but n o w y o u a r e G o d ’ s p e o p l e; once you had not been ==================================== shown mercy, but now you have received mercy. Question to the Bible scholar ========================= 1.) Has this people of God existed since the first century or only since the beginning of the 20th century? 2.) If this people of God has only existed since the 20th century, the question arises, to which people of God did the apostles and first disciples of Jesus, such as Peter, John, Paul, belong in the first century? 3.) Are you and your brethren part of God's people, whose main characteristic, as defined by the Apostle Peter, is the prospect of the royal priesthood?

Question of paramount significance The people of God in the New Covenant were defined by the Apostle Peter in his first letter under divine inspiration as follows. 1 Peter 2,9-10 ( N W T Study Edition) 9 But you are “a chosen race, a r o y a l p r i e s t h o o d , a h o l y n a t i o n , a p e o p l e f o r special possession, that you should declare abroad the excellencies” of the One who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light 10 For y o u w e r e o n c e n o t a p e o p l e, but n o w y o u a r e G o d ’ s p e o p l e; once you had not been ==================================== shown mercy, but now you have received mercy. Question to the Bible scholar ========================= 1.) Has this people of God existed since the first century or only since the beginning of the 20th century? 2.) If this people of God has only existed since the 20th century, the question arises, to which people of God did the apostles and first disciples of Jesus, such as Peter, John, Paul, belong in the first century? 3.) Are you and your brethren part of God's people, whose main characteristic, as defined by the Apostle Peter, is the prospect of the royal priesthood?

Hun?!?!?

@@LightoverDarkMinistry ASK your quest why he BLOCKed those JWs that refuted him