Why Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong about The Trinity: Part 2 

This is a Masterclass in how apologetics is really taught and how the doctrine of the Trinity has been misrepresented by groups like the Watchtower and Mormons etc. Having a latte and getting top notch apologetics when I wake up, my day is off to a brilliant start. Just Brilliant D H. Thanks mate.

Thank you for exposing their satanic lies. I am so grateful to my Lord and Savior and I pray that he will deliver all his deceived sheep.

Part 2? As if Part 1 was not thorough enough!? Fantastic work and research.

I love how you encouraged people to read material anti and pro of their beliefs and then come to their own conclusion :) Reminds me of the boreans, who researched everything they heard.

I haven't watched the video yet, but I'm already anticipating that it will be great!!!

This is one of the best videos on this topic I’ve seen

Amen! You sum it up well! I pray they heed the call of God to come out and be saved the only way of God's holy scriptures as it is written!

Finally! Its been two weeks! 😉

JW’s have their own definition of “lie” among other words. That might make good subject matter for a video.

7:52 This was way funnier than it had any reason to be. Great video btw, well researched and good production value.

i am a ex jw and i love jesus christ so very very much

As a Star Trek fan it’s really easy for me to understand how God talks about himself. The Borg collective, Locutis and the borg Queen would speak exactly like God does. The collective spans space and time, Locutis is the Borg left with his humanity partially in tact to better understand and relate to humans and the borg Queen the one individual who can both think and feel. The collective would speak with a booming voice, billions speaking as one. If the collective were to create something they would say “let us…”

200 AD Tertullian "Never did any angel descend for the purpose of being crucified, of tasting death, and of rising again from the dead." (The Flesh of Christ, ch 6) 200 AD Tertullian "All the Scriptures give clear proof of the Trinity, and it is from these that our principle is deduced...the distinction of the Trinity is quite clearly displayed." (Against Praxeas, ch 11) 200 AD Tertullian "The origins of both his substances display him as man and as God: from the one, born, and from the other, not born" (The Flesh of Christ, 5:6-7). 200 AD Tertullian "[God speaks in the plural 'Let us make man in our image'] because already there was attached to Him his Son, a second person, his own Word, and a third, the Spirit in the Word....one substance in three coherent persons. He was at once the Father, the Son, and the Spirit." (Against Praxeas, ch 12) 200 AD Tertullian "Thus the connection of the Father in the Son, and of the Son in the Paraclete, produces three coherent Persons, who are yet distinct One from Another. These Three are, one essence, not one Person, as it is said, 'I and my Father are One' [John 10:30], in respect of unity of Being not singularity of number" (Against Praxeas, 25) 200 AD Tertullian "As if in this way also one were not All, in that All are of One, by unity (that is) of substance; while the mystery of the dispensation is still guarded, which distributes the Unity into a Trinity, placing in their order the three Persons - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost: three, however, not in condition, but in degree; not in substance, but in form; not in power, but in aspect; yet of one substance, and of one condition, and of one power, inasmuch as He is one God, from whom these degrees and forms and aspects are reckoned, under the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." (Against Praxeas, by Tertullian)

Awesome video mate, amazing apologetics! Video's like this make it so much easier to have stepping stones for people who are challenging their indoctrinated beliefs.

Man, this was 🔥!

Awesome video!

What's even funnier is that their own New world translation teaches the doctrine of the Trinity so I don't know why they get so mad about that.

They immediately go to this nonsense anytime you bring up Holy Spirit, or try to show them that Jesus is God. They are so indoctrinated they can’t even consider what the Bible clearly says 💔🙏🙏

James 4:11 " Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge." KJV

Excellent research, clearly explained, and very helpful. Thank you for another well done video.

Full quote from Fortman: "They give us no formal or formulated doctrine of the Trinity, no explicit teaching that in one God there are three co-equal divine persons. But they do give us an elemental trinitarianism, the data from which such a formal doctrine of the Triune God may be formulated."

This video, and its predecessor, shows the pore hatred of the trolls in the comment section for the True nature of God; Father, Son and Holy Spirit. It should be eye opening how the childish trolls like DC and STROND and now, the little "g" Gabriel, so to such great lengths to IGNORE the content of the video, and throw their little cut-and-paste "scholarship" out there, as if they have the slightest clue what they are talking about. This is the matter that is SOOOO important, because WHAT you believe about the nature of Christ, determines your eternal future. Jesus said, "Unless you believe that I AM, you will die in your sins." John 8:24. Notice the word "He" is NOT in the text. For those of us that believe the biblical doctrine of the Godhead, it really doesn't matter if the word "He" is used or not. But for the Arain Keyboard Army of Trolls, it does. Attacking the True nature of Christ by citing obscure quotes from non-trinitarian sources, and using partial quotes and ellipses from real trinitarian, in order to try and manipulate what the author actually said into something they did NOT say, is the latest "fiery dart" in the quiver of the scum-bag trolls that will never cease trying to push their lies, until they come to an abrupt halt in take of fire, where they are headed. I bet DC will still be there in hell trying to support his WT belief system, telling Satan he should follow the WT.

*"It is impossible for a contradictory thing to be true.* A non-contradictory thing could be true or could be false depending on context but at least has the *possibility* of being true." -me, I said that ❌️Contradictory Theology, Mathematics and Physics❌️ (Knowing Good; Functions; limit built into every operation): 1. The Genesis 1 character and the Genesis 2 character are the exact same character. 2. Zero is not fundamental and nonzero numbers are fundamental (Newton calculus). 3. 0D is not locally real and 1D, 2D, 3D, 4D are locally real (Newton physics). ✅️Non-contradictory Theology, Mathematics and Physics✅️ (Knowing Good from Evil; Relations defined by constraints; limit is a separate operation): 1. The Genesis 1 character and the Genesis 2 character are polar opposite characters. 2. Zero is fundamental and nonzero numbers are not fundamental (Leibniz calculus). 3. 0D is locally real and 1D, 2D, 3D, 4D are not locally real (Leibniz physics). [Materialism/Empiricism version of Religion]: Interpreting the Bible with the Genesis 1 character and the Genesis 2 character as the exact same character generates near 70,000 contradictions (see reason project) and requires heavy apologetics. A Bible interpretation which includes near 70,000 contradictions (impossible to be true) is what a snake-oil salesman would sell you. 🐍 [Materialism/Empiricism version of Science]: The standard model of physics is 3+1 space-time, which are considered locally real, where 0 is considered not locally real. Been that way since Newton. Problem is...quantum physics proved the observable universe (1D, 2D, 3D and 4D) is actually not locally real...and that was over a year ago! 🦧 [Layman's terminology of locally real vs not locally real]: locally real = more real (Leibniz said "necessary") not locally real = less real (Leibniz said "contingent") TL;DR if you aren't sure if the meaning of 0 (zero) and 1 (nonzero) changing is epic just remember that Rick Sanchez ,🥒, collapsed a Galactic Federation by changing a 1 into a 0.

John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

I would not usually reply to your video as you have asked this question over and over. I find this very strange how many of the Trinity people spend so much time trying to prove this concept. I do not see many JW's spending so much time asking the same old question about the oneness of Jehovah. Maybe they are far more secure about what they teach, that they have moved on with the real message of our preaching work ! So as you are not really getting it, here it is again. Hopefully this time the penny will drop, so please pay attention ! So let's look at the teaching of the Trinity which is that all three are: Co-equal, co-eternal and co-omniscient. So the first point: Co-equal, Jesus said "the father is greater than I am" so a true Christian being a follower of Jesus, the son of God will listen and accept what he says. Anyone who contradicts what Jesus himself said is not following Jesus. So, now it is YOUR turn, please can you show us where Jesus said that all three are EQUAL ? Can you show us where any of the Bible writers stated that all three are equal ? Can you show us from the Bible where it says that the holy spirit is God and is equal to God ? Please give your witness . As for the Holy spirit being a person you have it so wrong, Gen 1 tells us that it was God's "holy spirit" that was moving over the surface of the earth, and it is NOT a person. The Bible writers told us about the holy spirit and how "It" would teach us, have you ever heard of a person being called an "It" ? You do not refer to a person as an "It" If you were to go back to the time of Abraham, and talk to him, do you honestly think that after reading Gen 1 he would have concluded thatGod was made up of that time of two persons, one being Yehovah and the other being the holy spirit? Abraham did not say "listen oh Israel, you God Yehovah is two Gods in one, now did he ! That is why the Jews laugh at you Trinity people because they know the Hebrew language and they know that the holy spirit is not a person. In the Bible, the word “spirit” is translated from the Hebrew word ruʹach and the Greek word pneuʹma. Most often, those words refer to God’s active force, or holy spirit. By referring to God’s spirit as his “hands,” “fingers,” or “breath,” the Bible shows that the holy spirit is not a person. And according to Vines Bible Dictionary, These meanings all share the sense of something invisible to humans that produces visible effects. Similarly, the spirit of God, “like the wind, is invisible, immaterial and powerful.”-An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, by W. E. Vine Misconception: Jesus’ apostles and other early disciples believed that the holy spirit was a person. Fact: The Bible does not say that, nor does history. The Encyclopædia Britannica states: “The definition that the Holy Spirit was a distinct divine Person . . . came at the Council of Constantinople in ad 381.” This was over 250 years after the last of the apostles had died. When YOU stand before God, and like the apostle Stephen, you see Jesus sitting at God's right hand and see NO Holy spirit sitting there, then you will then realise that you have been duped by God's enemy. Why wait until then ! The Trinity really is like knocking square pegs into round holes. Don't let pride of being wrong stop you from being corrected by the almighty Yehovah, the one who is the God and father of our Lord Jesus Eph 1:3

I see all the JW trolls just spouted off all their normal crap. Do any of you have anything you want to address IN THE VIDEO? Didn't think so.

where's the verse?

Don't just take anybody's opinion, read the whole scripture(old & new) diligently and pray for wisdom. Do it regularly, over time you will begin to see the truth-it will set you free from the prevailing deception.

Title should be wrong about 99% of their teachings.

From their own butchered translation, the Holy Spirit is God and isn't a force. John 4-24 God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.” Matthew 3-16 After being baptized, Jesus immediately came up from the water; and look! the heavens were opened up, and he saw God’s spirit descending like a dove and coming upon him. Luke 3-22 and the holy spirit in bodily form like a dove came down upon him, and a voice came out of heaven: “You are my Son, the beloved; I have approved you.” Luke confirms the The Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit Acts 5-3 But Peter said: “An·a·niʹas, why has Satan emboldened you to lie to the holy spirit and secretly hold back some of the price of the field? 4 As long as it remained with you, did it not remain yours? And after it was sold, was it not in your control? Why have you thought up such a deed as this in your heart? You have lied, not to men, but to God.”

All trinity people and watchtowers we see God is keeping His promise. Proverbs 30:6

I have looked over and over again and never once have I seen any evidence of a trinity in the Scriptures

They do the same for calling the cross pagan. It's very annoying because they know that these sources probably won't be checked.

190 AD Clement Of Alexandria [note: Clement NEVER calls Jesus a creature.] "There was then, a Word importing an unbeginning eternity; as also the Word itself, that is, the Son of God, who being, by equality of substance, one with the Father, is eternal and uncreated." (Fragments, Part I, section III) "that so great a work was accomplished in so brief a space by the Lord, who, though despised as to appearance, was in reality adored, the expiator of sin, the Saviour, the clement, the Divine Word, He that is truly most manifest Deity, He that is made equal to the Lord of the universe; because He was His Son, and the Word was in God, not disbelieved in by all when He was first preached, nor altogether unknown when, assuming the character of man, and fashioning Himself in flesh, He enacted the drama of human salvation: for He was a true champion and a fellow-champion with [ie. God among creatures, not that Jesus is classed as a creature] the creature." (Exhortations, Chap 10) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "I understand nothing else than the Holy Trinity to be meant; for the third is the Holy Spirit, and the Son is the second, by whom all things were made according to the will of the Father." (Stromata, Book V, ch. 14) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "When [John] says: 'What was from the beginning [1 John 1:1],' he touches upon the generation without beginning of the Son, who is co-equal with the Father. 'Was,' therefore, is indicative of an eternity without a beginning, just as the Word Himself, that is the Son, being one with the Father in regard to equality of substance, is eternal and uncreated. That the word always existed is signified by the saying: 'In the beginning was the Word' [John 1:1]." (fragment in Eusebius History, Bk 6 Ch 14; Jurgens, p. 188) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria 'For both are one - that is, God. For He has said, "In the beginning the Word was in God, and the Word was God." (The Instructor, Book 1, ch 8) 190 AD Clement of Alexandria "Despised as to appearance but in reality adored, [Jesus is] the Expiator, the Savior, the Soother, the Divine Word, he that is quite evidently true God, he that is put on a level with the Lord of the universe because he was his Son." (Exhortation to the Greeks, 10:110:1). 190 AD Clement of Alexandria "The Word, then, the Christ, is the cause both of our ancient beginning, for lie was in God, and of our well-being. And now this same Word has appeared as man. He alone is both God and man, and the source of all our good things" (Exhortation to the Greeks 1:7:1). 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "Now, O you, my children, our Instructor is like His Father God, whose son He is, sinless, blameless, and with a soul devoid of passion; God in the form of man, stainless, the minister of His Father's will, the Word who is God, who is in the Father, who is at the Father's right hand, and with the form of God is God." (Instructor, Book I, ch. 2) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "His Son Jesus, the Word of God, is our Instructor.... He is God and Creator." (Instructor, Book I, ch. 11) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "This is the New Song, the manifestation of the Word that was in the beginning, and before the beginning. The Savior, who existed before, has in recent days appeared. He, who is in Him that truly is, has appeared; for the Word, who "was with God," and by whom all things were created, has appeared as our Teacher. The Word, who in the beginning bestowed on us life as Creator when He formed us, taught us to live well when He appeared as our Teacher; that as God He might afterwards conduct us to the life which never ends." (Exhortation To The Heathen, ch 2) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "This Word, then, the Christ, the cause of both our being at first (for He was in God) and of our well-being, this very Word has now appeared as man, He alone being both, both God and man" (Exhortation To The Heathen, ch 2) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "For it was not without divine care that so great a work was accomplished in so brief a space by the Lord, who, though despised as to appearance, was in reality adored, the expiator of sin, the Savior, the clement, the Divine Word, He that is truly most manifest Deity, He that is made [made = appointed not created, ie. made king after resurrection.] equal to the Lord of the universe; because He was His Son, and the Word was in God, not disbelieved in by all when He was first preached, nor altogether unknown when, assuming the character of man, and fashioning Himself in flesh" (Exhortation To The Heathen, ch 10) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "Now, O you, my children, our Instructor is like His Father God, whose son He is, sinless, blameless, and with a soul devoid of passion; God in the form of man, stainless, the minister of His Father's will, the Word who is God, who is in the Father, who is at the Father's right hand, and with the form of God is God." (The Instructor, Book 1, ch 2)

12:13 And, they have taught it.

This is an interesting topic. What is the trinity exactly? The Christ died, God can’t die. That would mean the world was without God for three days and that’s absolutely impossible.

Jehovah's Witnesses are not wrong about the Trinity. The Bible does not teach that God is made up of three Gods in one. Can you show us where Jesus said that God is made up of three Gods in one ? Can you show us where any of the disciples said that God is made up of three Gods in one ? And as the foundation doctrine of the Trinity is that all three are co-equal, can you show us where Jesus said that all three are EQUAL ? Can you show us where any of the Bible writers stated that all three are equal ! When Bible translations such as the KJ Bible have to resort to adding whole sentences to the Bible in order to try and back uo the Trinity, then alarm bells should rung for all lovers of TRUTH!

the trinity is defeated for none shall be able to defend it for it is not in any of the holy words. all who promote the trinity will be defeated none shall stand

Who is wrong about all the triune gods of pagan religions since Nimrod? Rome had multiple triune gods. Rome was the power that created the Roman Catholic church that created Christendom and no doubt included one of their many triune gods.

Exodus 9:16 /Romans, 9:17, Jehovah hardened Paraoh's hearth so that He can use His Power to force him to free the Israelites, but dispites of Jehovah's power which lead them out from Egypt, they grieved the Power of Jehovah which is His Holy Spirit, @Isaiah, 63:10,

Ellipsis in WT quotes - 99% of the time taken out of context. But when indoctrinated you just ass-u-me "faithfull slave" is being honest

Sorry, Jesus isn’t God, nor equal to God. He called our God and Father his God and Father at John 20:17. See also: 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 4 Now concerning the eating of food offered to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world and that there is no God but one. 5 For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 6 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him. And…… John 17:3 “This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.” The only true God…..

It is easier for a rock to speak than for a JW to accept the deity of Christ.

The strongest support for Jehovah's Witnesses view on God not being a trinity historically *is the bible itself* ... Nothing archaeologically, literaturally, linguistically etc can trump the bible. Moses recorded God's own words on this.... Genesis 1:1,26,27 New Living Translation *1In the beginning* God created the heavens and the earth. *26Then God said, “Let US make human beingsb in our image, to be like US.* They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth,c and the small animals that scurry along the ground.” *27So God created human beingsd in his own image. In the image of God he created them;* male and female he created them. So at creation's start (before the earth was created) God was with someone...and that being was in God's image. *There were 2 individuals....* Which other being does the bible say is in Gods image before mankind was created...? Colossians 1:15 New Living Translation *15Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created* and is supreme over all creation,e Hebrews 1:2 New Living Translation 2And now in these final days, he has spoken to us through his Son. God promised everything to the Son as an inheritance, *and through the Son he created the universe.* 1 Corinthians 8:6 New Living Translation 6But for us, There is *one God, the Father,* by whom all things were created, and for whom we live. *And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created,* and through whom we live. How many God's are there? ONE...the Father/Creator. How many Lord's are there? ONE, Jesus being God's primary means of creating mankind... 2 separate beings at creation again... John 1:1-3 brings that out too, *2 separate beings at earth creations start...* New Living Translation Prologue: Christ, the Eternal Word *1In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God,* and the Word was God. *2He existed in the beginning with God. 3God created everything through him, and nothing was created except through him.* So far we've gone back to the creation of the earth and seen that God is ONE person...and his Son/Jesus/the word is ONE person... John 17:5 New Living Translation 5Now, *Father, bring me into the glory we shared before the world began.* The historical references after that that Jehovah's Witnesses point to prove that non Israelite/Jewish nations worshipped more that one God. *Some of them actually worshipped triads/triunes/trinities of God's....* *In ancient Egypt there were many triads:* the Osirian (or Abydos) triad of Osiris (husband), Isis (wife), and Horus (son),[8] the Theban triad of Amun, Mut and Khonsu the Memphite triad of Ptah, Sekhmet and Nefertem the Elephantine triad of Khnum (god of the source of the Nile river), Satet (the personification of the floods of the Nile river), and Anuket (the Goddess of the nile river). the sungod Ra, whose form in the morning was Khepri, at noon Re-Horakhty and in the evening Atum, and many others.[9] en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triad_(religion) The Israelites after coming out of Egypt were clearly told their God Jehovah was unique....he was above all gods - He is No.1... Deuteronomy 6:4 American Standard Version Hear, O Israel: *Jehovah our God is one Jehovah:* That carried throughout Israelite/Jewish history... Zechariah 14:9 American Standard Version And Jehovah shall be King over all the earth: *in that day shall Jehovah be one, and his name one.* Mark 12:29 American Standard Version Jesus answered, The first is, Hear, O Israel; *The Lord our God, the Lord is one:* Aramaic Bible in Plain English Yeshua said to him, “The first of all the commandments: *'Hear Israel, THE LORD JEHOVAH your God, THE LORD JEHOVAH, he is One.' “*

If the Roman Church came up with the Trinity concept which was borrowed from pagan sources, and the Protestants found it necessary to break free from that Church, logically, the RCC teachings should be false. Today, as is obvious, people don't believe the RCC concept of the Trinity. All these debates are about making Jesus into God. The Holy Spirit takes a back seat.

Uh-Oh! I thought the Trinity was supposed to be one of the "fundamentals" of Christianity. As opposed to one of your "Non-Essentials". But what do we have here, in the comments section for Pt's 1 and 2? A whole bunch of 'Christian' commenters who specifically state they are not JW's saying it's nonsense. Where's the unity? Don't you find all this a bit embarrassing?

No he didn’t.

Babylonia "The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god-as appears from a composite god with three heads forming part of their mythology, and the use of the equilateral triangle, also, as an emblem of such trinity in unity" (Thomas Dennis Rock, The Mystical Woman and the Cities of the Nations, 1867, pp. 22-23).

Jesus, when he become in his nature as a chiefangel he sent his angel to John, saying " do not worship me, i am your fellow servant like your brethrens the prophets, worship God, these passage proves Jesus was ressurrected by Jehovah and made him archangel to rule the angels, Acts, 5:28-31,

Why make it even debatable? Why didn’t Jesus just say “for the avoidance of doubt, I am Yahweh@?

According to Paul, Jesus was only used by God as a spokesperson in the last days of the Jewish system. Namely the 1st Century. Hebrews 1:2. Jesus being COMPARED to other MEANS God had used earlier (verse 1). Then again, what would Paul know. The apostate church which came up with the foretold 'perverse (KJV) or twisted teachings would know better, it seems. Acts 20:30. Why did the Protestants break away IF the Roman Church was the one true Church teaching TRUTH? Makes it a 'You cannot have the cake and eat it' scenario. Using words of people who came AFTER the apostles to justify some Trinity is violating the simple direction. 1 Corinthians 4:6....that through us you may learn the rule: “Do not go beyond the things that are written,”

9:08 I heard the vote was like 318 to 2.

Hebrews 1:5 For example, TO WHICH OF THE ANGELS did God ever say: “You are my son; today I have become your father”? And again: “I will become his father, and he will become my son”? 6 But when HE AGAIN BRINGS HIS FIRSTBORN into the inhabited earth, he says: “And let all of God’s angels do obeisance to him.” Jesus is God's FIRSTBORN created ANGEL.

Acts 2:22 is a testimony of Peter that Jesus was A MAN whom God worked THROUGH. People through whom God works do not become God. JWs understanding of the Bible matches the first Century Christians.

Sooo Jesus is the mediator between God and Men and is the one who he is mediating the relationship with?? Sorry no Trinity in the Bible sir

You cannot say my God and be Almighty God, it is impossible.

You all seem to miss the point. Jesus came to teach us how we can be one with God as he is one with God, how we can enter that special friendship and relationship he has with his Father. Therefore, worshipping Jesus in place of his Father or getting side tracked with doctrines such as the trinity teaches us nothing about the relationship Jesus has with his Father, or how we can emulate him.

Once Jesus said 'My God '(revelation 3:12), that ended all debate in regards who he is and is not

JW: "The word "trinity" is not in the bible so therefore its not true Also a JW: "Well no the term "governing body" isnt in the Bible but that doesnt mean..."

If GOD is three persons and all are named JEHOVAH, and if you see them in front of you, count one by one, how MANY JEHOVAH do you see? that is THREE JEHOVAH, and Deut 6:4 says JEHOVAH IS ONE JEHOVAH. and THAT IS NOT THREE JEHOVAH

Having done so much of my own research, I realized that if the JW's didn't have it right, nobody did. After continuing my research, i found that the JW's didn't have it right and therefore nobody does. So now I'm an atheist but the idea that the GWs are wrong on the Trinity is probably the most incorrect aspect. If you want to call them an apocalyptic Cult, that's a fair criticism, but it does seem like the growing academic consensus is that the earliest Christians were not trinitarians.

FROM TERTULLIAN - square brackets mine. - But if this same Wisdom is the Word of God, in the capacity of Wisdom, and (as being He) without whom nothing was made, just as also (nothing) was set in order without Wisdom, how can it be that anything, except the Father, should be OLDER, and on this account indeed NOBLER, than the Son of God, the only-begotten and first-begotten Word? Not to say that what is unbegotten is STRONGER than that which is BORN ([this is Jesus]) , and what is not made more powerful than that which is MADE ([ JESUS]) . Because that which did not require a Maker to give it existence, will be much more ELEVATED in rank than that which had an AUTHOR TO BRING IT INTO BEING ([JESUS])

the trinity is catholic and the catholic church is one of the largest cults on the planet. They fulfilled acts 20:28-30. No one has the permission by God to call Him a Trinity. God never used the term trinity nor did Jesus and it was not therefore inspired by the holy wind. All who promote the trinity are under the curse of God. Galatians 1:8-9

Paul (and Jesus) prophesied that after the death of the Apostles Satan would run things among so-called Christians. (Acts 20:30) and from AMONG YOU yourselves men will rise and SPEAK TWISTED THINGS to draw away the disciples after themselves. Any twisted teaching cannot be comprehended. The Trinity which the apostate church came up with falls into this category. That is why it is still being debated today. No such debates ever took place within the first Century Christian Congregation. Because: (1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually TO US ONE GOD, THE FATHER, For TRUE CHRISTIANS only the Father in the Heavens is God. No one else. JWs have been raised by God in these last days to declare: (Isaiah 43:10) “You are MY WITNESSES,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I AM THE SAME ONE. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none. The addition of Jesus and the Holy spirit as God/s was an apostate development. Jehovah is the ONLY TRUE GOD according to Jesus (John 17:3) and JWs. Jesus along with his disciples worship Jehovah.

The trinity must be defeated for it is a violation of the holy words. Proverbs 30:5-6

JW's Teaching about the Trinity is one of the few things they actually got right. There is not one verse in the Bible that says that "the Holy Spirit" is a God or equal to God. No where. Three Gods in one makes no sense.

JW's believe the Trinity to be only what the Watchtower has taught them. And, as you say in the video, the Watchtower does not teach them the truth about the Trinity. The Watchtower presents a strawman Trinity and then attacks that. But that does not matter to these JW's. Because no matter how many times a Christian explains to them that they have an inaccurate belief of what the Trinity is, they cannot wrap their Watchtower controlled minds around it. They can only hear & believe what the Watchtower is telling them. And should the Watchtower ever change their stance against the Trinity, their obedient followers will change their stance right along with them as if nothing happened. Oh, there may be a very select few who would question the change, but Watchtower will just tell them it is "new light" and all will be good again.

Nothing spirit left for trinitarians, its not a person, Holy spirit already given to the winners, they who believed that Jesus is the Son of God.@Acts.5:28-32/ 1st,John,5:5.🥰

Stop making Jesus a liar! Take note that Jesus never spoke parables to his apostles, @Mat.13:10-11/Mark.4:34. Therefore, John knews and wrote what Jesus command to Mary,@John.20:17. "Go and tell my brothers that I ascend to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God," who's lying? Take note also that Jesus whispered the truth to his apostles.read. Mat. 10:26-28.

The trinity is false along with the name Jehovah. You have in scripture God the father and God the son and then the Holy Spirit person must be the uncle god who as Jesus said no one sees….including himself. See the problem?

The trinity is pagan in origin. Jesus was the Angel of Jehovah not God. There's a reason Jesus is called the Word of God. And its not just because of wjat he did in the New Testament but what he also did in the Old Testament. And there's a reason he's called the Word of God too. It's because he speaks for God. You people should actually pick up your Bible amd read it and get the sense of what's being said in it.

190 AD Clement Of Alexandria [note: Clement NEVER calls Jesus a creature.] "There was then, a Word importing an unbeginning eternity; as also the Word itself, that is, the Son of God, who being, by equality of substance, one with the Father, is eternal and uncreated." (Fragments, Part I, section III) "that so great a work was accomplished in so brief a space by the Lord, who, though despised as to appearance, was in reality adored, the expiator of sin, the Saviour, the clement, the Divine Word, He that is truly most manifest Deity, He that is made equal to the Lord of the universe; because He was His Son, and the Word was in God, not disbelieved in by all when He was first preached, nor altogether unknown when, assuming the character of man, and fashioning Himself in flesh, He enacted the drama of human salvation: for He was a true champion and a fellow-champion with [ie. God among creatures, not that Jesus is classed as a creature] the creature." (Exhortations, Chap 10) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "I understand nothing else than the Holy Trinity to be meant; for the third is the Holy Spirit, and the Son is the second, by whom all things were made according to the will of the Father." (Stromata, Book V, ch. 14) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "When [John] says: 'What was from the beginning [1 John 1:1],' he touches upon the generation without beginning of the Son, who is co-equal with the Father. 'Was,' therefore, is indicative of an eternity without a beginning, just as the Word Himself, that is the Son, being one with the Father in regard to equality of substance, is eternal and uncreated. That the word always existed is signified by the saying: 'In the beginning was the Word' [John 1:1]." (fragment in Eusebius History, Bk 6 Ch 14; Jurgens, p. 188) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria 'For both are one - that is, God. For He has said, "In the beginning the Word was in God, and the Word was God." (The Instructor, Book 1, ch 8) 190 AD Clement of Alexandria "Despised as to appearance but in reality adored, [Jesus is] the Expiator, the Savior, the Soother, the Divine Word, he that is quite evidently true God, he that is put on a level with the Lord of the universe because he was his Son." (Exhortation to the Greeks, 10:110:1).