*Bought a 500 for an ultralight rod. It's very smooth **enjoyable.fishing** recommend casts great. One odd thing- the bale wire is a bit heavy diameter in my opinion for a reel of this size. But a great purchase.*
Never thought of this, its a great tip. I do braid to fluro because of cost. Braid lasts me 2 or 3 seasons, easy, and I can always unwind it off the reel, spool it up backwards, and get another 2 or 3 seasons. You can't do that with fluro. I do think the sensitivity claims of braid to fluro are overstated though.
The fact that you immediately took tension off the line and let that tag just hang at the end shows you have ultimate faith in this method. Thanks for sharing Randy
I just watched you do a video talking about fluorocarbon on your spinning rod. I just added the Seagar 8 lb test to my spinning rod. What a huge difference on casting, and getting your bait to maximum depth quickly. I was really shocked on how well this line stayed on my spinning reel. The yellow label Seagar is unbelievable fishing line. Really a good tip that you gave all of us.
Very simple but highly effective technique. I’ve applied this to my Walleye setups and I am very satisfied. Thanks for that tip. You’re very convincing too. I think I may think twice about braid
Randy, I have limited myself many years with the fact of being a bait caster dude rejecting the spinning rigs however after 69 years I have ordered my first spinning reel and rod. I going with 10 LB invis-x line. Thanks for the tips on how to spool the line. I did go with 200 yd reels but I think I will put the reel in a smaller container of water then run a shaft through the reel and through the sides of the container of water to have close to the same effect. I think my plan will work. Thanks for the great information, I really enjoy your videos. DH, Chattanooga
Not a hater, not a complainer. I watch all, comment on all and like all your videos EVERY day. So now that's out of the way.......You are correct, straight floro, mono, braid have their place. I keep about 6 to 8 spinning rods on board all rigged based on the situation. This is the real story on Braid to Floro. It's a FACT (I've tested it) YES, braid will cast further than straight floro. Not by much, maybe 5% to 10% further depending on rod length and bait weight. Due to less stretch, braid also transmits the energy of a hook-set more efficiently when needed like at the end of a long cast or in deep water, this is a big advantage. And lastly, Braid to floro is a value add option. Quality floro is expensive and we don't all get free line like some folks. By utilizing the braid to floro, my line costs have been cut in half because I only change the braid perhaps once per year. Randy, sometimes you are very "matter of fact" and some of your statements are dead wrong. Shape your content a bit and get off your know-it-all mentality. I get it that these videos are only 10 to 15 minutes long and you have to be poignant and efficient with your message but find a way to quit making everyone think they are doing it wrong unless they do it your way.
I’ve never claimed to know it all. I’m sharing my experiences of what works for me and what I have found to be true from fishing for the past 50 years. Unless people experiment with all options and all techniques it’s impossible to make an educated decision without giving other techniques and methods a fair trial. As far as the braid in Fluorocarbon Situation it is not a biased opinion. Is what it’s what I have found to be true from my own experimentation
@@randyblaukatintuitive I think Patrick has a point about deep water hookup advantage w/ braid, but everything else he said is BS. I appreciate you bringing your professional perspective and experience to the public. It's funny how this generation of fisherman has so much content given to them they are all "virtual" bass experts. They do not have to work nearly has hard or long through the process of trial-n-error finding fish. You as well as other pros doing content videos like this is a game changer for fisherman and for myself who has been bass fishing for 40 yrs. I certainly appreciate your honesty and being genuine.
I watch absolutely every one of Randy's videos and have never felt as if he is talking down towards someone else's way of doing certain things. He is just giving his own personal perspective on each situation!!! I believe he honestly wants to be of help to everyone by sharing his WEALTH of knowledge and EXPERIENCE. I just dont see how you would say he is portraying an (I'm always right attitude) like I said in the beginning I watch EVERY video he puts out. Just my 2 cents worth!
@@johnosborn2347 - I'm 52. Been fishing tournys since 1979. Randy offered his help and opinion and I simply gave him some feeedback. It's totally up to Randy to do whatever he wants to do with my feedback. His comment that "people only splice because they saw other people doing it is prob what triggered me. Splicing has a place in my arsenal much like many other good tournament anglers, open your eyes. So Jacob Wheeler, Brent Ehler, Dustin Connell, Mike Iaconelli and Brandon Palaniuk (to name a few) all doing it wrong and Randy and John Osborne are the real pros that are anti-splicing - LoL man. I backed every point I made in my post to Randy. I respect all his content. He can do with my feedback whatever he wants.
I've never used braid to floro on any of my set ups but have been questioning if I'm missing out. I use straight floro on my spinning reels I don't use the water but have realized that leaving it about 5/8 of the way spooled up helps tremendously. Thanks Randy!
Youre not missing out. It will only negatively impact the way the fish are going to bite. Tried it, didnt really like it. On top of the fact I lost a few lures fishing on the bottom but at least it broke off the line where it was supposed to.
Randy the only reason I use flouro to braid is to change leader line size without despooling whole reel 👍🎣. I also use hot water get rid of line memory
Lol. I’ve been getting a wet rag to keep my fingers wet, busting out a pencil, and sitting in my lazy boy with a the spool between my toes. I like your method!
WOW ... NOW THAT'S A NEW ONE ON ME... NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE... I'LL HAVE TO GIVE THAT A TRY.. THANKS RANDY... BUT WANTED TO ADD BRAIDED HELPS ME A LOT TO FEEL BITES..
I’ve also heard that running the spool under warm water helps with line memory. I wonder if you use warm water with your technique if it work even better. Thanks for all of your great tips and hearing about your experiences.
Interesting water trick, this is similar to my water trick only I have found that water temp was crucial. The water had to be hot but not boiling. So try this sometime and maybe share your results as your channel is quite popular. Fill a glass bowl with water and microwave it so that it is hot but not so hot that you can't put your hand in it. This might be easier if you overheat the water then let it cool. Then repeat your method exactly. What this does is aid in relaxing the memory of the line and give you that extra edge against those legendary issues with folrocarbon and spinning reels. Good luck and happy hunting!
One reason Im on braid to Flouro still is the cost. Its not a big deal with a couple reels but 10-15 reels a season adds uo with flouro. I feel good about 2-3 seasons out of braid.
I just saw this tip in a video the other day. You doing it now gives me the confidence to re-spool my reels using water to suspend the spool! Saved me some money on one of those fancy deals for spooling your line!
Great tip. Never thought about wetting the line as I spool it on. I have been wetting it after I spool it on and even that helps some with the 'fluffing' problems. Will use more tension from now on as well.
Hey Randy, just wanted to say thank you. I've tried all other ways of spooling. This is next, this week. All systems seem to make sense, but same problems. Gonna do this.
Very nice tip. Been watching RU-vid how to fishing tips for a couple years. This is the first time I seen water being used. I am definitely going to try it.
Not here saying this is wrong....obviously Randy knows what works. But take a minute to consider the mechanics of a spinning reel. When you cast, the line comes off twisted. And when you reel in, the mechanism untwists the line and lays it flat. Therefore, for me, the best way to put line a a spinning reel will always be to remove the spool and put the line on with a machine that lays the line flat, just as it comes off the spool.
That bench looks like my labs drank out of that water bowl... or heard the sound of a cheese wrapper 😂 Seems like I always had to unspool while idling across the lake and then winding it in (without a bait on the line). Gonna give it a shot tonight. Thanks Randy 👍🏼
To me this is so right, when I think how twist works. Learned a lot about twist from my garden hose :) Here the line comes off the factory spool the same way as it came on at factory. Tangential! When casting it comes off the reel the same way as it came on, but in reverse. So the line has the same twist in air as it had at the factory before the final spool. That must be the intention.
Randy, have you done a video on braid backing on a baitcaster? I was going to ask you soon, but just saw this video and thought about it. If not, would you mind talking about the advantages/disadvantages/rational/etc of that process, please? Thank you!
Awesome video Randy!!! Thank you so much for this tip! I was just about to Google this exact subject! My bf and I have been having problems with birds nests and line twists in our spinning rods 🙄 can't wait to spool up with these tips and see how it works!!! Excellent video! Thank you 😊
Good tip what were used to do was after spiraling the line we will go to the lake and if there's not too much boat traffic just let that Loose in the water let trailer behind the boat it'll unravel untwist and just a friction of the water will let you put it back on tight
I agree that fish can probably see the braid. Resulting in less bites. I do a lot of finesse fishing with spinning rods. One benefit of braid to fluro leader is being able to switch out the fluro # test as needed . With straight fluro thus isn't an option. Meaning i will need more spinning rod n reels.
Only reason why I use braid to leader is for economical reasons . I do not think braid and leader cuts down on bites but I will use straight fluorocarbon on windy days and in gin clear water .
I haven't tried it yet, but I've heard that after you spool up a reel, you should remove the spool and put it in a glass of pretty warm water for about 20 minutes to remove the "memory" from the original spool and imprint the new spool dimension into the line.
5:04 he drops the tag end and it doesnt pop or fluff up! Thats the kind of proof I needed that this method will work. Ill have to try it cuz I messed mine up real bad.
Tried the jerky man that stuff is good. Appreciate your videos and knowledge. Soak your line in water for a couple days and you can put it on any way you want.
I see a lot of the Japanese fisherman do this with there line or floro or mono mainly but I always been a braid to leader guy an never had any issues an I can tie a leader to leader knot in under a minute. So it's not much time being spent tying a leader but maybe for someone who is a beginner or doesn't know how to tie leaders fast would maybe be a pain in the butt or maybe if ur fishing in snaggy areas. Also a lot of Japanese fisherman do braid to leader as well and they don't seem to have much issues and when I put my leader I usually am putting like 8 to10 foot of leader and not like 2 feet reason maybe I never had issues with catching fish.
My son in law gifted me a seven medium spinning rod and reel spooled with 10 pound spider wire smooth braid. Even tiny lures go sixty to seventy yards with just a medium power cast.
In lieu of your dish of water to put your spool into do you think it would do the same thing with a wet towel in your hand and squeezing the towel as the line goes through? The reason I'm asking is that I spool line at the shop I work in with a motor powered unit to spool on new line! Always looking for a better way to serve our customers.
Here’s a fact. I rarely used braid until this season, as I wanted braid on a top water twitch rod. The FIRST cast, I was absolutely SHOCKED at how much farther my Pop-R Magnum went than the day before. Now, I’m not sure why you don’t get more distance with braid, maybe using micro guides on rods with braid makes the difference, I don’t know. You’re the seasoned pro, not me. I will say this, from now on, ALL of my top water rods will be 7’ Med, fast action, with micro guides, spooled with 30lb braid. This is the ONLY setup I use braid on. Training yourself not to set the hook, but just pull when you feel the fish, will also result in more second strikes, because setting the hook on a missed bite sounds like a nuclear bomb just went off with a Magnum sized chug bait. Braid should ALWAYS cast farther than flouro or mono because of smaller diameter AND it’s just softer. Physics.
Thanks Randy for this information! I dont know how long it would take me to use 1000 yd spool up. Does the line on a 1000yd spool go bad if it's not used in a few years? I can keep the spool inside my house vs garage if that helps? Also, do you use a cheap mono line for backing on your spool to save money?
Never thought about spooling it like this, will have to try this. I used fluorocarbon line a long time ago on a spinning reel and nothing but bad luck, the line that I used was not that great. Seaguar line is some incredible stuff, I have been using their braid for awhile and it is great! I will take your advice and try seaguar line (big spool) and try this water trick. Thank you sir for this great tip!! :)
Randy Answer: Can you use Monofilament line for Backing & roll the Fluorocarbon line over it? If so: What kind of Knot do you use? I'm hoping that Someone could answer my questions. PLEASE!
Need a bigger bucket! lol... I have spooled up reels (mono) similar to this having the spool in a dish pan of warm water. Let it sit a while before I spool up.
Is it me, or maybe the camera angle, but that looked like a LOT more than 1/8" inch of room to the edge of the reel. Regardless, GREAT advice. I'm going to try this. As proficient as I've gotten at tying on leaders, I'm tired of it (spinning or casting).
Do you feel that the hookset capability is similar in straight FC when compared to braid to FC leader? Also, did you just connect your old line to the fresh line? Is this a normal thing, because I have been just taking out all the old line when it gets low then re-spooling the whole thing. Thanks for the tips!
Randy, Does your tip work for mono too? I've always flipped the line spool to where it comes off in the same direction as the reel, then ran the line through an old encyclopedia of phone book while spooling it on. Randy's water tip is a lot easier. I'm going to try it out.
What about line twist from certain techniques the line starts off fine but after a day of fishing it starts to look like phone cord? I’m still a straight floro guy but I still also have problems (I use the same line as you)
"you're gonna have alot of fluffs, it doesn't matter how you put it on". Yeah, that's been my problem. Old school mono never did this back in the old days.
After you use Randy's spool technique.....then spray some KVD Line and Lure on the full spool.....Let it sit overnight and then give it a spray every night before you fish.
It looks like you left a considerable amount of line on the spool. Is that mono line? why didn't you tie the flourocarbon line onto the line that is already on the reel. I was thinking of leaving a load of mono line on the reel then put about 100 yds of flourocarbon on the reel to save money. Is that cool?
Braid will still knot up at times as well. Also nothing worse then the knot failing as it runs through the guides on a cast. Thinking about straight fluoro again. Not to mention time it takes to retie a leader no matter what the knot is
Me too. I enjoy the fg knot, but tired of the knot failing over time and constantly changing the leader due to changing lures, i only have three rods. I think spinning rods should just be straight fluro brcause of the finesse aspect of it. I do love the braid to fluro on baitcasters.
I spooled it with 8 LB test mono for lighter lures, gave it some practice casts and found that it did cast well ru-vid.comUgkxSlytCJqozTF7EbdP4LWP-HUXf9WRDJ0e , except that the anti-backlash setting had to be turned up almost all of the way to keep the "overcasts' ' down. I disassembled it, and found that if I potted some "shim washers" behind that anti-backlash magnet assembly, it got the magnets closer to the spool without rubbing, and I could get better control with about a 6 to 7 out out 10-Max setting. I also noticed that the handle shaft had some internal end play, maybe only 2 or 3 thousands of an inch, but it's still noticeable. If the anti-backlash and shaft tolerances were "tightened up" this would be a fantastic value. I've only used it for 4 days of fishing in a month's time, but I plan on keeping it.
First, I do not do braid to floro either. Its silly. Ive caught tons and tons of fish on straight braid. Period. You cant argue against it because Ive proved it. 2nd, and I may be mistaken on this, but on an ealier vid before you a Jonny were a team, he said its better to get floro on smaller spools because there are less problems because of the shorter runs. If Im correct, and I think I am, there is a bit of a conflict in advice here. Check out Jonnys video on this because I tend to agree with him on this. This is not a personal attack and if Im incorrect I opologize but Im pretty sure I remember his vid well because I was debating the large spool as apposed to the small spool and I took his advice because it made sense. Anyways, great vid Randy!
