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How to stop EUPHORIC RECALL from sucking you back into a narcissistic relationship 

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@dimondsjewls4236
@dimondsjewls4236 Год назад
DON'T EVER FORGET WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH, REMEMBER how you had to fight for your own LIFE. Remember ALL that it took to HEAL,shake the dust off and get back on your GRIND!! THANK GOD YOU MADE IT OUT, AND DON'T EVER RETURN!!!
@dimondsjewls4236
@dimondsjewls4236 11 месяцев назад
@kurstawilliams1805 it is easy and can be done. I'm living proof, been no contact for 4 yrs. Every day I thank my God and father for helping me to see where I went wrong so I will never make the same mistake twice!! I KNOW YOUR a whole lot STRONGER than you appear to be.
@leforrestsalonandspaforres8529
I stopped mine by making myself remember the horror. I would go back to accounts of rollercoaster behaviors and then I'd snapped back to a healthy reality.
@katrinaquick8834
@katrinaquick8834 Год назад
Umh thank you
@AlwaysHope2019
@AlwaysHope2019 Год назад
💪
@plarsen2654
@plarsen2654 Год назад
Me too! I make lists of the awful stuff and reread the list! No sentimentally!
@chayo4537
@chayo4537 11 месяцев назад
What are you remembering that's good?
@plarsen2654
@plarsen2654 11 месяцев назад
@@chayo4537 the dog. Lol
@lisagrimes4801
@lisagrimes4801 Год назад
Narcissistic cycles are just like DV cycles. Honeymoon stage, building up stage, blow up abuse stage, coming down stage, calmness, repeat.
@gottabme
@gottabme Год назад
Ahh, yes, the love bombing! (Honeymoon stage) Too good to be true...literally.
@PassionateFlower
@PassionateFlower 11 месяцев назад
Ya and I reach a point where I almost wish they would just beat me physically so that I can actually legitimately report the abuse and have the physical proof to get them arrested or locked up or something and have people believe that I was the true target of their wrath and not vice versa, anything to make it stop but when it's all psychological I feel that awful sense of helpless hopeless crazy making that makes me sick to my stomach with no end in sight.
@aatt3209
@aatt3209 Год назад
'All photographs are accurate. None of them is the truth' - Richard Avedon.
@heleenloubser9072
@heleenloubser9072 Год назад
Ick list. Being blamed for money that I spent. Turning my children and friends against me. Never taking my side,never protecting me. Always being late. Never helping me with the work in around the house. Complaining about me doing what I like! Sitting reading while I tried to juggle 2 jobs.
@TheKrispyfort
@TheKrispyfort Год назад
Geez, did we marry the same bloke? 😂
@heleenloubser9072
@heleenloubser9072 Год назад
@@TheKrispyfort they use the same textbook!
@vc7770
@vc7770 Год назад
We must have been Married to the same Asshole
@chayo4537
@chayo4537 11 месяцев назад
Ewww
@jasmine3416
@jasmine3416 11 месяцев назад
Oh yes!! Blamed for spent $!!!!!! I became scared fearful to ask for anything! I was also blamed for everything!!! Anything that was going wrong too .
@NarcSurvivor
@NarcSurvivor Год назад
It’s like an addiction. You remember the highs of the relationship. You remember the good times. It pulls you back in because you’re uncertain about whether or not their false character was real. But if it was real, why aren’t they there for you now? That’s how you know it was fake all along. The character was nothing more than a tool that they used to manipulate and deceive you, to lock you under their control. However you feel after being involved with a narcissist is how they wanted you to feel.
@mqua4610
@mqua4610 Год назад
Yes! But some of us didn’t know what this really is. We were taught that everyone has struggles and we should be grateful that things aren’t worse. Then, when you have nothing more to give, you are hounded and hounded to give in to pressures of draining your money, IRA, and other conditions, you have no options but to take the abuse because you have no where left to go. No money, you are constantly in the hospital, cancer etc… Very good posting that sums up reality.
@redxfingernails
@redxfingernails Год назад
It really is‼️ he is my drug and Lord please help me I’ve been trying to quit for YEARS 🥹🥲
@aprilwilcox5065
@aprilwilcox5065 Год назад
Well said, bravo ❤❤
@katrinaquick8834
@katrinaquick8834 Год назад
Thank u
@plarsen2654
@plarsen2654 Год назад
Fake and manipulative for sure!!!!
@sarahkoren7294
@sarahkoren7294 Год назад
That is why abuse is so effective. If it was 100% of the time, we would never be involved with that person from the beginning. As far as a narcissistic sibling. I try to remind myself that no matter how wonderful the love bombing is, I have the feeling of "walking on eggshells" for a reason. It always ends up with ghosting or devaluating.
@jessicaabbott10
@jessicaabbott10 Год назад
That’s my dilemma, too. Although this last time around, I was the one to do the ghosting (I ghosted my whole family system of enablers, too) because of the massive psychological toll it finally took on me. I always told myself I could never be the one to ever ghost another person, and then I found myself with no other way out. I’m getting better over time at not beating myself up about it (and these videos help) but it’s still hard sometimes. Because the truth is, I do miss them dearly, and I feel like there’s nothing I can do about it.
@sarahkoren7294
@sarahkoren7294 11 месяцев назад
@jessicaabbott10 I know. We still love our Narcissistic family, but that doesn't mean that we should be their victims, and be sucked into their games.
@yahyoubetchaa
@yahyoubetchaa 7 месяцев назад
And this is why I keep going back to my Narcissistic family members and Narcissistic ex. Because they are nice to me sometimes and help me out, and we share special moments/ memories
@Jennifer-dw8hl
@Jennifer-dw8hl Год назад
"Why can't you remember the good times." was a question I heard a lot when I was still trying to repair the relationship with my parents. It became apparent that in their mind I was the problem for not brushing off the abuse.
@amandapriest9563
@amandapriest9563 11 месяцев назад
I feel this so much. You had a great childhood. Why do you keep focusing on the "few" bad times.
@bereal6590
@bereal6590 10 месяцев назад
@@amandapriest9563 oh my, this is so true. My parents had terrible childhoods, very severe. Mine was full of 'stuff' and things that they didn't get so they think they did a great job. What they were really doing was fulfilling their unmet needs. What's strange is my now elderly mother remembers the shoes, clothes, toys, trips even birthday cakes that I received. Not once does she remember 'me'. Frequently she remembers things I didn't like, like how I had eczema and my clothes were too tight or scratchy or very fussy clothes, that I didn't like a cake she did or my father smashing two of my toys, raging, punishing. She doesn't remember when I was in a fight at school or when I did well or badly. She doesn't remember how I was,who I was, what I like or dislike or what hurt me and can be dismissive of what i enjoyed and still is. She remembers the good times as she sees them but she remembers nothing about me. I have animal companions and I remember what they like, don't like, what they did and do, their personality, if they're tired, when they're sick or unhappy, when they're comfortable. The good times are the good times as they see them, we were just players on their stage, playing a role. They didn't notice our bad times so from their pov, there weren't any. In their minds we are just an extension of them. Giving a fertilised egg does not a parent make
@user-ms1fo8bg4l
@user-ms1fo8bg4l Год назад
What works for me is remembering we only take pictures during the good times. I don't know anyone who pulls out a camera to take pictures during a fight or not a happy time.
@discopotato675
@discopotato675 Год назад
Needed this. 6 months after I ended things, I still have flashbacks of the good times. And quickly (thankfully, it's quickly now and don't get stuck romanticizing them) remind myself of my favorite Dr. Ramani quote on narcissistic (Cluster B personalities, because I think Bipolar or Borderline can be just as difficult) relationships. "Enough good days to confuse you. Enough bad days to break your heart."....and then an Andrea Gibson quote, "Let your heart break, so your spirit doesn't."
@heleenloubser9072
@heleenloubser9072 Год назад
I never want to see him again,not even the photos. If I never see or hear him again,it will be magic!
@Subspace._tripmine
@Subspace._tripmine Год назад
There was a person I knew many years ago before I knew what a narcissist was. He found me on Facebook about 15 years later, and I noticed he was still doing and saying things in the same way. He used backhanded compliments, and then he would lay on the charm. I knew better than to get involved with him because now I knew what narcissism was. But he was so charming. I made 2 big posters (yes, big poster boards) and listed all the negative things he did. I taped one by my bed and 1 by my door so I would read the lists every day. He was hoovering me with lots of charm, and I could feel the pull. I would debate with myself thinking that maybe he was different this time around even though I could hear and see what he was. He tried for 3 years! He was persistent. Then finally after 3 years he started calling me horrible names just because I maintained my "No." Those posters really helped me stick to my guns.
@davidJohnsonguitarguy
@davidJohnsonguitarguy Год назад
I say out-loud to myself in private, " He's divorced for a reason, His adult children don't want to be around him for a reason, He was fired from being a Godfather to his former best friends little girl for a reason" . Doing this helps to acknowledge to myself the abuse I went through. I found doing this to be very beneficial.
@jefesalsero
@jefesalsero Год назад
The narcissist was the common denominator in their failed relationships.
@dollyalexandratorres2031
@dollyalexandratorres2031 Год назад
FOR 7 YEARS NOW, I HAVE BEEN ENJOYING THE BREAKING OF EUPHORIC RECALL AND WHEN MEMORIES CREEP IN I USUALLY SAY TO MYSELF " WOW, THANK U GOD IM OUT"
@p.w.352
@p.w.352 Год назад
I relate narcissistic relationships to poison ivy. It's really quite attractive, but I wouldn't want to have it growing in my garden.
@tinydancer62
@tinydancer62 Год назад
Very well said.
@TheKrispyfort
@TheKrispyfort Год назад
Euphoric Recall - I call this a hit of myexisgone, because the cravings are real, the withdrawal anxiety great. Partial reinforcement, all the "near wins" of the Game of Chance that we called that relationship/situationship, are the strongest type of performance animal training reinforcement used. We're craving the acceptance which is demonstrated by the Jackpot. Relationships aren't gambles, they're investments. Don't throw good resources after bad.
@KeenanDenis
@KeenanDenis Год назад
I used to hate looking at a photo of me age 12. I hated that photo. I hated that kid. Ugh. Ugly. Unwanted. Useless. So last year I bought a silver frame and put the photo in a prominent spot in my home. I now speak very kindly to the child in that photo, promising that I will protect them and keep them safe. Hmm, warm fuzzy feelings.
@PepperWyd
@PepperWyd Год назад
Such a lovely idea. ❤
@wjquick32
@wjquick32 Год назад
Also, when you were in the relationship (of whatever type) for the right reasons...of course you will look happy. Genuine people have genuine emotions, it's ok to be confused by old pictures. Be kind to your past selves.
@Rose19695
@Rose19695 Год назад
Thank you for this.
@TeacherMom80
@TeacherMom80 11 месяцев назад
I liked that you said a survivor “or experiencer” of narcissistic abuse because, while abuse of any kind is never okay, there’s a range of severity when it comes to abuse. Someone may suffer from a wide range of abusive behaviors within an abusive intimate relationship for many years. This can destroy their career, ability to financially support themselves, relationships with others, physical & mental health, leave them spiritually broken, feeling hopeless about the future & wanting to die to simply end what feels like ever ending torture… and then there may be another person who felt confusion, sadness, invalidation, etc. throughout childhood but never understood the underlying causes of those feelings until adulthood & who may carry some level of grief with them but lead a functional lives & have the capacity to develop healthy adult relationships, etc. Having been in an abusive intimate relationship for years, it almost feels invalidating to refer to every person who has ever known or loved a narcissist as a survivor… Yes! It IS like a full time job trying to decode them… And the magical sex thing for 16+ years. How to live without that when I forget who I was & what life was like without that? He’s always been faithful to me. He’s always given me & the kids all his money, etc. How do I know I’m not trading one set of problems for another?…Everything you’re saying resonates with me. So how do we let go of the relationship when in an abusive intimate relationship? How do we learn to trust & love again? Treat ourselves as if we are addicted to them, like a 12 step program? Will I always miss & want him, even if I manage to leave him? I’m SO tired. I just want to love & be loved. It feels like things will be going well for weeks, where I began to feel normal - and then if I say anything he doesn’t like (usually when I stand up for myself in healthy appropriate ways), it’s like Jekyll & Hyde. Not even an exaggeration… Thank you for existing & for sharing your wisdom. Love, respect & gratitude from Massachusetts.
@keithbarbur2577
@keithbarbur2577 Год назад
This hit home! My reminiscing of the last two days. Excellent time to hear this. I thought I was so in love, now to go back and look at all the gaslighting,lying, promises for years wasted in a relationship that I thought was real. Thank you for your help for reminding us all that it wasn’t real.
@sporkgirl06
@sporkgirl06 Год назад
Just in time… Thank you, Dr. Ramani!
@mamaJmama
@mamaJmama Год назад
Dr. Ramani, you are my hero. I know you saved so many lives and comforted so many people who had no idea what they had gone through and blamed themselves.
@imteveni
@imteveni Год назад
My ex husband called me up to “ask” me if I wanted any copies of our wedding pictures because he was going to purge his laptop. He knew I had a zip drive of them. So I politely responded no, I had my copies to pass on to my daughter some day. When I look at them I have to remind myself that the wedding day was a loving moment. It was the in-between that sucked so bad. I don’t gaslight myself. I hold on to my truth. I keep those photos for my daughter, so she can have that moment for her own history. Her dad has so much contempt for me nowadays. It might be nice for her to see a moment he was actually being nice to me.
@wildhorses6817
@wildhorses6817 Год назад
My X has Only Contempt for me also. Really strange since I was the one who had money stolen, was physically attacked, raged at and repeatedly accused of lies. He has a wealthy Widow taking care of him and using her money while he travels the world. Sick people.
@imteveni
@imteveni Год назад
@@wildhorses6817 yes, so crazy how delusional they can be. And in my case grandiose. Glad we are not in it anymore with those unhealthy men!
@zedecatz
@zedecatz Год назад
When you narrate to yourself OUT LOUD all the background things that went on before and after the big smiles helps with the confusion. My narc husband passed after 36 years. There are a LOT of photos. When someone says "Smile for the camera" you do but... by reminding yourself he yelled, complained, made you do all the heavy lifting and spent all your money to impress others for the 2yr Olds party, it makes me see the smiles as just a bookends for a whole lot pain in between.
@McSpaddenator
@McSpaddenator Год назад
I'm at the Ick list part. I have a scar underneath my eye from my narcissist sibling swinging a rope with a metal ring at the end. It struck me at age four. My parents cleaned me up, but only told me to not follow as close. It's when I first realized that I had to get really smart if I was going to survive. My parents wouldn't protect me.
@mday3821
@mday3821 11 месяцев назад
I was 3 yrs old when my NM started physically abusing me and realized I was on my own. It's sad to think about how toddlers feel they have no one to protect them...there was no safe place.
@SarahBurnette1007
@SarahBurnette1007 11 месяцев назад
I'm so sorry 😞 thats so terrible
@d4dancing
@d4dancing Год назад
Thank for speaking so deeply on this subject. I’m going through many boxes of old family photos in these months. I’m also trying not to fall back into a relationship because of the good memories and being lonely. It’s a very helpful suggestion to make a list and realise the roller-coaster is not only the highs. No wonder we get sucked in, a placid, vanilla relationship doesn’t give those highs…. The goal is a healthy relationship that has highs without the destructive need for control and domination.
@Ana-ef2js
@Ana-ef2js Год назад
I wish I were where you are now. I'm still looking for a way out of this hell. I prefer what you comment, longing, loneliness, .. to live them. My family has been very expensive for me. I will not hesitate to keep contact zero because these people do not appreciate us, we are blurred faces and they are bad people; no matter how much they carry our blood, they are not really family.
@lisagrimes4801
@lisagrimes4801 Год назад
Mine is the opposite. My childhood pictures are all sad. Especially one I look at it, and the pain is so obvious. My pain in that picture is blatant. I was probably sad. I never realized until now, how much damage my narcissistic dad did to me.
@jessicaabbott10
@jessicaabbott10 11 месяцев назад
I have pictures that are like that, too. Most of my childhood memories I have still are happy, but I think it’s my brain blocking out the bad memories. When I look at any sad photos, though, not a whole lot comes back anymore because it’s been so long (plus I moved out of state and don’t talk to my family anymore).
@lisagrimes4801
@lisagrimes4801 11 месяцев назад
@@jessicaabbott10 yes, I don’t really remember them too much, but I am remembering the horrific things my dad said to me in a regular basis. My dad’s been gone for 22 years but it still haunts me.
@darcyroyce
@darcyroyce Год назад
I went cold turkey back then. I've kept nothing to remind me of people who were abusive. I have my memories though. Mellowed, not hostile, not angry most days, but they're here if needed, to remind me where I came from. I expressed myself clearly, I don't care or accept apologies or attempts to reconnect, I don't forgive (that's in internal job - they can work on forgiving themselves), and I don't need or want anything from these people. I found peace and I relearned to enjoy life's smallest pleasures. I'm happy, I don't expect, nor want to see these past people ever again.
@conniet.7271
@conniet.7271 Год назад
I love your natural hair colour 😍. It looks so beautiful and great on you. ❤
@cbizzle4299
@cbizzle4299 10 месяцев назад
17:26 “ it’s hard to think that getting out of the relationship was the win” Well Said Dr.Ramani 👏
@BK-lb8uh
@BK-lb8uh Год назад
Yes, I do have pictures. It reminds me that all that are facades. It serves as a reminder to be careful to select a partner going forward. Painful Lessons.
@lisagrimes4801
@lisagrimes4801 Год назад
Another piece to this puzzle is when children are involved. All one has to do is read up on Parental Alienation stories. More often than not, the narcissist gets full custody because of $$$$$. Many mothers who don’t have custody with the narcissist, may NEVER see their children again. Not only that, the narcissistic parent brainwashes the child/children against the other parent. The other parent goes through literal HELL. Suicides happen. So, that is a possibility why the good person hesitates to leave. I’m personally experiencing this myself and it’s a miracle I’m still alive. My daughter is 25 and never talks to me. It’s delicate to bring your defenses and stories to your children. It may make it worse.
@judysussertravis5172
@judysussertravis5172 Год назад
I'm so sorry, I've lived this too. My son was turned against me by my ex-h and went no contact for 8 years. My daughter did not. Now reunited with son, so grateful. Lookup Ryan Thomas Speaks a great alienation resource.
@lisagrimes4801
@lisagrimes4801 11 месяцев назад
@@judysussertravis5172 I’ve been following Ryan Thomas for years, however, his “Get Them Back” program is way too expensive for me. Over $4,000 for six months with no guarantees.
@moiramarriott4403
@moiramarriott4403 Год назад
Have written the 5 points of the worse things about my relationship. Control, gaslight, etc actual examples. The list is on my fridge. When I see him in the village, I remember that list. . Any smile, flying monkey , deed has no effect as I know the low that is reality.
@tinydancer62
@tinydancer62 Год назад
👏
@LouisaWatt
@LouisaWatt Год назад
It’s VERY tricky with family, because throughout the years they were there in difficult times. The thing I hold onto is the realisation that they often put me in difficult times. I remember talking to a woman at a party about relationships and narcissistic abuse. She knew that her ex was toxic and abusive, but she started reminiscing about the romance and I tried to remind her about the abuse, but she just kept rambling on… As she exhaustively regaled the whole room with how good he was as a lover, I left. Some people will refuse to accept the truth that the highlights were probably fake, or at least are not an indication of how healthy the relationship really is.
@karunas007
@karunas007 Год назад
Just what I needed today. I went thru waking up thinking abt ex narc. Saw pics and made me mad and angry..so glad u are talking abt this. It's so not me anymore. After a year of break..its been like who was that..but anger triggers. Working thru...decluttering
@karunas007
@karunas007 Год назад
Just signed Up for Your Course. MOST IMP DECISION AFTER A YEAR OF NO CONTACT BUT NEED SUPPORT
@karunas007
@karunas007 Год назад
Been watching your videos since a year and kept working through alot. BUT TIME TO MAKE ACTIVE PARTICIPATION
@diannes8592
@diannes8592 Год назад
I don't have euphoric recall (there were NO good times or happy memories) I have what I'll call euphoric "fantasy" where I imagine myself telling him off, standing up for myself and saying all of those things I WISH I would have had the guts to say to his face. I think I have euphoric revenge fantasies too, and it's not healthy... I have to let it go...
@wjquick32
@wjquick32 Год назад
When I finally stayed gone from my ex, I made a list of all the ways he treated me like trash to revisit anytime euphoric recall started hitting. I also hid FB photos and deleted some old posts that would pop up in FB memories. It was really effective, I was able to delete the list right before the divorce. And I still cut him out of old pictures if I look really good in them and still want to keep them lol. Otherwise, I shred them.
@Chloe-licious
@Chloe-licious Год назад
Praying for healing. Sometimes am suicidal thinking of what I have went through. I wanna be happy and move on with life happily. ❤️‍🩹 🙏
@gottabme
@gottabme Год назад
Keep on doing what is right for your healing, Chloe. It is truly darkest before the dawn, and you WILL come out whole. It is a journey, and for many of us, it is lifelong. I am still healing, after nearly 30 years of being away from the narcs in my life. (Mother, and a hubby of 20 years.) But I would not trade my present life to go back to THAT. I am also able to see narcissism in people I meet, so am able to avoid getting involved with them now. Sometimes it helps to make a list. I write the things that made me miserable in those relationships, and next to each, how my life is better now. It helps me to see the progress I have made, especially when the past is haunting me. Each morsel of improvement is a success, and success is the BEST revenge! Celebrate it, no matter how insignificant it might seem. The narcs HATE seeing us overcome and succeed! NEVER, EVER give up!! If you do, they win. Don't give them that satisfaction! Proving them wrong is not only cathartic, proving it to yourself stops the self-gaslighting they taught you! You are strong, even when you don't feel that way. You have survived, and that took more strength than you will ever likely need again! God absolutely wants you to heal, and since you are praying, God will guide you to those people and things which are comforting and healing. Deleting ourselves, is like saying, 'God isn't big enough to handle my pain', but we know that isn't true. He is greater than our pain, and the narcissism that caused it. Trust Him, He will NOT leave you or forsake you! I pray for your comfort and healing, Chloe. May God richly bless you on your journey! ❤🙏✌️
@CrazyEightyEights
@CrazyEightyEights Год назад
Happiness is ephemeral. Finding fulfillment is often more gratifying long term.
@dr.parulluthra4574
@dr.parulluthra4574 Год назад
You described my life with my husband and in-laws 🙏
@stopbullshitin
@stopbullshitin 11 месяцев назад
Usually people that complain about in-laws are the problem, I'm just saying
@dr.parulluthra4574
@dr.parulluthra4574 11 месяцев назад
@@stopbullshitin sure Sir/Ma’am!
@stopbullshitin
@stopbullshitin 11 месяцев назад
@@dr.parulluthra4574 if you find yourself complaining about the people you live with but still haven't removed yourself from the situation your already at the very least 50% of the problem
@covert_warrior
@covert_warrior Год назад
Surprisingly i have a lot of pictures of me on the bad days..... I keep them as a reminder of what to never allow again.
@rosierb852
@rosierb852 Год назад
I had to quit my job and now I have to delay my exit. Please say a prayer for me that I get out of this.
@sarah_krv
@sarah_krv 8 месяцев назад
I hope you have managed to prioritize your emotional and physical well-being and are now in a better place
@k60c85
@k60c85 Год назад
I donated my wedding albums to the photographer for her display for prospects. I got rid of a lot of gifts my sister gave me. I felt like they were tools she used for manipulation and it felt good to throw them away. Also I got rid of many photos and deleted posts from not only her but my narcissist dad. Tired of feeling sick when I saw them.
@playtpuspower3241
@playtpuspower3241 3 месяца назад
I love that you called it Euphoric Recall because being in narcissistic relationships really is an addiction
@Heidi534
@Heidi534 11 месяцев назад
I am right in the middle of this as I go through a rough divorce with a narcissist. What I discovered, as I go through old photos, he showed up for the professional photos. I had more pictures of our kids with my friends than with him. It was an eye opener about who is really there for you, and who shows up for you.
@kryssysmith1486
@kryssysmith1486 Год назад
I did a ' literal purge' of my ex-family. ANY photos I had or any memorabilia that I had that were from that family I got rid of because I DON'T need to be reminded of my past how much so why have anything around that resembles it. I remember one time when (the female person who had brought me up) had literally told somebody (AS I WAS IN THE ROOM), they were(at the time) going through old family albums. "Oh, she had such a happy childhood, look she's smiling in every photo." My first thought was for (the female who had brought me up), and I was just telling myself in my head, how freaking dare, you looks are deceiving."
@enbusquedadeperlita3133
@enbusquedadeperlita3133 Год назад
Yeah, I am going through it in this stage of my life. Deal with an elderly overt narc parent and the healing from a malignant NarcX. My siblings are only dealing with our mom, they don't understand the narcx/co-parent aspect Im grappling. I feel like the more I want to be left out of both(narc mom and narcx) the more one or the other sucks me back in. They want me to be the messy heap I was a year ago or further back. I can't. I wasted and gave my mom and this NarcX all of my energy and time for no good results. It feels like I'll never be free because it's all internal, in my mind and I feel like there not enough to replace and shove out the trash of childhood to the mister I chose. I think the rosey feeling/view this is why I keep being stuck since I ended therapy. She was a great therapist, but I think I played her as well as myself in saying I am ok and I'm strong enough to call it a day. I just wanna be free and not stuck over these two people that in life Iatter less to them than cat poop.
@fawnNheadlights
@fawnNheadlights 11 месяцев назад
I share similarities with your story and I can say this... don;t waste your resources on people who will trash them and refuse to care. Love them, but don't let them poison your life. Let their offenses towards you roll off your back like water on an otter God has your back and will show you how to heal and navigate these difficult relationships. Say a prayer to Him, He'll listen.
@michellefoy5198
@michellefoy5198 Год назад
Here's what I tell myself because I do miss his bod and I cry when I find a keepsake. 1. The sex was good but not good enough to keep him. 2. Remember how your suffering affected the people who really love you. 3. It was so hard to go through the process of getting rid of him, DON"T MAKE YOURSELF GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN! (AND see #2). 4. It wasn't real. S/ He never loved you. 5. You deserve better. 6. Do things you could never do with him around. Watch a show he hated and you loved. Play your music. 7. Go to church or volunteer. Meet some people or your isolation will become more and more daunting, which is stupid, kids go out and play all the time ffs. 8. Reward yourself in a meaningful way you can look forward to. I love you all brave friends. : )
@Koali2011
@Koali2011 Год назад
Journal when you’ve just gone through a horrific event with your narc. Write down every aspect of that experience; what happened in detail, who said what and how it made you feel. The deeper you dig down into your feelings about it and they will probably multi-faceted, the better. THEN when you start to get sucked back in to their charms, go back and read what you wrote. Document as much as possible. It’s not for the purpose of holding a grudge or unforgiviness, but to keep yourself grounded in truth.
@rachelk4805
@rachelk4805 Год назад
I do not have those pictures because it triggers my ptsd. I try to avoid them when they come up on Google photos. It sucks though, because so many of my child's baby photos have gone down the memory hole because I can't look at it. I still struggle with euphoric recall and I am five years free of my relationship which was violently abusive. It is like an addiction. I hate it, but therapy helps.
@eyespy6677
@eyespy6677 Год назад
We don't take pictures of the bad times.
@TheKrispyfort
@TheKrispyfort Год назад
Typically, no. 😢
@fixmyfencesydney818
@fixmyfencesydney818 Год назад
We do but they find them & delete them & then U cop it for taking the pics of the bruises and after the abuse & blame abt the pics, he then turns around saying the pictures didn't show anything anyway.. no 1 will ever believe U & then that's 1 of the excuses they use for going thru ur phone making sure I'm not being sneaky & trying to send him to jail.
@PenninkJacob
@PenninkJacob Год назад
Thank you Thank you Thank you!!!👍❤👍❤
@terriwhalen3618
@terriwhalen3618 11 месяцев назад
I so needed to hear this today. I have caught myself reminiscing about the good times. Thank you Dr. Ramani. ❤
@bluemoon8268
@bluemoon8268 Год назад
… what’s missed are those isolated moments of happiness … and what could have been and should have been …
@gottabme
@gottabme Год назад
The 'dream' dying was the worst part. Even worse than the abuse.
@yahyoubetchaa
@yahyoubetchaa 7 месяцев назад
I’ve been away from my Narc ex now for almost 2 years, yet the memories are still fresh in my mind and feel like they were just yesterday. At one point, I moved 1,000 miles away for a job, and I still found myself missing him. The trauma bond is just so strong. I had the highest highs with him that I haven’t had with other men I’ve dated since. I just miss him and I would take him back in a heartbeat if the opportunity arose 😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️ I am in a unique situation because I blame myself for a lot of it, because I didn’t have my own life together at the time Of course the Narc ex has no idea and thinks I’ve moved on and no longer care (this is what it looks like from any outsider’s perspective) - which isn’t true at all. I haven’t made any actual attempts to apologize or reconnect, even as friends. I do think I need this for my own healing just because of the unusual circumstances and the fact that a lot of the wrongdoing was mine I pray to God I get the opportunity someday to have a chat with him and at least apologize for my own inappropriate behavior 🙏
@alisonodonnell1773
@alisonodonnell1773 22 дня назад
I keep coming back to this video when I ruminate. Ugh! This week someone sent me a pic of the Nex biking through the Grand Canyon with his hag rebound. After the wake of destruction he left, HE gets to live the life of Riley! I can't afford to travel, too injured to climb on a bike, have no partner (BY CHOICE) to play with... I'm 10 months out now but suddenly struggling harder. I deleted 133 pictures this week-- BECAUSE IT WAS ALL FAKE!! This killed me because some had my grandkids in them, my late dog, and good shots of me. But it's part of letting go. That pic set me back 6 months. I journal every day, which makes it impossible to have a day where I don't think of him. I broke things off, but suddenly I see him next to me every day like an invisible friend. Something needs to change!! I'm so glad he's with her, still lovebombing, because I'd hate to give in to hoovering. I wonder if this had to happen so I can jumpstart some forward momentum!! Needed to hear these words today. Taking notes!
@kellyp4377
@kellyp4377 Год назад
Wow, your opening words were so profound! “Those are only moments ….relationships are actually what happened inbetween those moments” That simple concept gave me such peace, and I haven’t even listened to video yet… !
@terriwhalen3618
@terriwhalen3618 11 месяцев назад
Yes, and I actually was beginning to think I am crazy. Since I have so many ex toxic/narcissists, I will go on rampages of remembering everything good about all at one time. I will end up feeling horrible. Now I know this happens. I would have never told anyone about my thoughts. Thank you again! Whew!
@guroberger4101
@guroberger4101 Год назад
So true. So easy to forget how bad it was..
@SarahBurnette1007
@SarahBurnette1007 11 месяцев назад
My Mom has always suggested writing a long list of all the reasons why you broke up with that person and refer to it often. Ive also found making a special box with the photos is helpful.
@CB-ud1zz
@CB-ud1zz 11 месяцев назад
I don't have an issue with euphoric thoughts. I have an issue with memories popping up and realizing how manipulative they were, how many times I was duped, or lied to, ignored, or gaslit. Like, everything I believed previously about love, about life, is now wrong. It was ALL narcissism. How do I make these stop? I have been out of the relationship for almost three years now. Thank you for all that you do, I've learned so much from you!
@tallonhunter3663
@tallonhunter3663 Год назад
I fanned all the rage, the hurt, the betrayal, the "think of all the good things I do for you" I fanned the flames white hot, condensed them into a pinprick nova, and touched all those good things with it and burned them to ash. Now when I remember the good times... I trigger the memories of the consequences, that these experiences are used as an excuse for the abuse.
@plarsen2654
@plarsen2654 Год назад
So good!!!!
@Enlighten9096
@Enlighten9096 3 месяца назад
Just went no contact. I am humbled, scared, disturbed recognizing that through my whole childhood, and to this day she says, ”I’m too old to change.” Why did I never clue in? The writing was on the wall in front of my face the whole time. It’s terrifying to see how blind I was. It still terrifies me each day.
@loverlytoday
@loverlytoday Год назад
My family pictures show a sad, confused 12 year old girl hit hard by her mother's emotional neglect which began around the time I began to individuate. Around that time my teacher called my mom in for an in person chat for the three of us. The teacher told my mom explicitly "I suspect your daughter is depressed, she cries often, looks despondent, counseling is highly recommended. My mom shot back "my daughter is not crazy, no thank you". Never to be spoken about again. Fast forward 45 years later, I am a reformed people pleaser (25 years of therapy!) who now knows how to set strict boundaries and distance with toxic people, especially my still emotionally immature parent who continues to ignore me and her grand daughter. Recommend "Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents" by Gibson
@pisztufilm
@pisztufilm Год назад
My narcissistic family also believes that therapy is "for spoiled people who don't have real problems". I never received any emotional support even when going through obviously traumatic experiences as a child. Only now I understood how cruel and neglectful that was.
@La_Kitty
@La_Kitty Год назад
I have a pic my mom took. I am four and sitting on my dads lap. We are not looking at the camera and we both look so sad. 😢 Trapped in the cruelty of a severely narc mom/wife. I can only imagine the nasty stuff she was saying to us as she took the photo. She is 88 now, still cruel and appears to have other mental health issues too. 😢😢😢
@millertas
@millertas 11 месяцев назад
At 64 and a marriage that is as strong as ever (over 38 years now and that does not include the three years prior as living together) I do feel better after watching your YT videos. Prior to meeting my faithful wife I had two relationships where I was love bombed and gaslit. Looking back both the unsuccessful girlfriends were too easy for me to ask out initially while my wife (also mother of my children, travel companion and BFF) took a little longer and patience but WOW was it worth it.
@Jbelly275
@Jbelly275 8 месяцев назад
“We got it right on that day.” WOW!
@luvyatubers
@luvyatubers Год назад
There is a photo of me age 3 or 4. I remember being sleepy and my Mom taking my doll out of my hand. I whined for the doll back. She gave it back and told me not to drop it. Then yanked me out of the car to go get my photo taken. She said we were late. If she wasnt pulling me fast I probably wouldnt have dropped it. She became bitchy and spanked me then expected me to smile at the camera.. I frowned and doll has a dirt stain on its head. I like the picture because i did not smile as i was told
@La_Kitty
@La_Kitty Год назад
I have sooo many memories just like this. She locked me out of the car in a mall parking lot in a snow storm. I stood outside the car unsure of what I had done wrong and fearful she would drive off if I knocked on the car window. I was 4 years old. I would die before EVER treating my children that way. I am 64 now and still feel the fear in my gut from that snowy day.
@gottabme
@gottabme Год назад
Narcissistic 'mothers'. The bane of humans!
@danutam572
@danutam572 Год назад
Thank you Doctor Ramani
@deannasteele9803
@deannasteele9803 Год назад
Never had any fond memories of my narcissistic parent, mother. Now I have a narcessitic daughter.
@gregwindell7702
@gregwindell7702 Год назад
Be strong enough to be honest and kind Then may peace be with you a marvel gaze
@jessicaabbott10
@jessicaabbott10 11 месяцев назад
Holy god did I need this video. Thank you for putting this together.
@karolemcaninch6495
@karolemcaninch6495 11 месяцев назад
This is exactly what I needed today. Thank you Dr. Ramani😊
@lilredheaded1
@lilredheaded1 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for creating and sharing!
@Livingingratitudeforever
@Livingingratitudeforever 11 месяцев назад
Wow. I REALLY needed this right now. Thank you, Dr. Ramani 🥺🙏🫶
@jokendrick2124
@jokendrick2124 Год назад
After my malignant sociopathic husband died I couldn't connect with and still have no desire to connect with his friends or family as all they did was talk about how wonderful he was. Sadly they never knew my truth. I refuse to listen ad nauseum about him without speaking my truth. My friends and family knew. So, sadly I just cannot interact with any inlaws even though some are really nice people. Win some lose some.
@nikkinorton8310
@nikkinorton8310 Год назад
It used to hit me right in the guy to look at those pictures and it hurt. Now it's just an old part of my life. Kind of like a dream. I can't see myself smiling in those pictures because mostly, I was the one taking them to capture the moments. My kids will probably always remember their father with them in those moments, but there is rarely any photo documentation that I was even there.
@claireburkus8497
@claireburkus8497 Год назад
Same here!! Funny now how he withheld the photos as we packed to split up, we had agreed to share and I made copies from mine for him….and he used them as one more thing to get to me. Luckily, having taken the photos of children and family…I have found my mind kept each loving snapshot in my brain!!! Sure there were those of my side of the family and vacation shots I had wanted to capture on canvas that bothered me most! So I left off caring and pray that he passes on all those memories to my kids at least…so far, he hasn’t even as they had their own children and would have looked them over for resemblances!!! Sorry that my family of origin was narc abuse and I was so wounded ..I went right into another for a narc marriage..what a waste of living!!
@TheKrispyfort
@TheKrispyfort Год назад
I was the family photographer, too 😅 I miss my kids 😢
@SusiesBear
@SusiesBear Год назад
I finally, after 13 yrs, got out of the narcissistic marriage , but I keep hearing from one daughter how wrong I was, it was mostly my fault that It didnt work out. That I was the one doing everything wrong. That I should take him back and that she wants to go to a marriage counselor with us so they can " fix my problems." And that all i ever do is run away from my problems instead of dealing with it all. She never stops. How do u deal with those people? ( and yes, she is very much like my second husband. )
@Calibri57
@Calibri57 Год назад
It hurts a hundred times more when your own children have been turned against you. When they become the narc’s minions, it is like a dagger that digs deeper and deeper into your heart. But I am finding, in my own case, that I can outlast this phase by being myself, maintaining my boundaries, and keeping an open unconditional love toward my children. My children are beginning to see the light. The truth eventually comes out.
@lorithrall9847
@lorithrall9847 Год назад
Thank you for this. Very important
@PendletonNorth
@PendletonNorth 9 месяцев назад
Recently my brother asked me, why is it so important that I remember specifically, the things my mother did to me- wasn’t it enough to know generally that my mother was “ compromised “ ? “No”, I told him. I have to remember the ugly details and add it to a list of all of the hurts my mother mother has done to me otherwise, the cognitive dissonance wants to set in and I’ll want to forget the pain and accept the treatment as a normal part of relationships. He doesn’t get it.
@FrozenWillow1980
@FrozenWillow1980 Год назад
I have a few pictures of me with my narcissistic parents - the first of course is when I was a small baby. She looked so happy in the photograph. What went wrong? My father, the bigger of the two narcs, always fighting with her, abusing me and then taking me out for treats to buy my silence - Sometimes I feel like she learned it from him, because she stood by him after finding out - treated me like the cheating home wrecker come in to destroy her relationship with my father and her happy family outlook. We were off to Euro-Disney in the early 90's - That was a good day even though it was cold. I was beaming from ear to ear. I got that childhood dream, even though it was just for one day. We did go on vacations we did have fun - it's almost as if a different persona overtook them for those moments captured on film but the moment we got back? Pooft, gone and the narcissistic abuse happened again along with the physical, emotional, psychological and s3xual in my case. In fact even a couple of vacations I remember where I have no photographs, the abuse happened there as well. I remember being berated by him to hurry up whilst taking a photograph of him and my mother under the Arc De Triomphe as they kissed. Ugggh. In those years I was being s3xually abused by him. I try not to look at those photographs. They bring up far too much confusion and pain. Instead, I look at photographs on my children. They are in my happy box because that is one tool I use for my PTSD.
@karlippo
@karlippo Год назад
Yes the mood tracking app was a real eye opener for me seeing weeks and weeks and months of mostly 😢😮😳🤯💔🤬😱 emojis…. I suddenly saw a pattern
@Water_is_Sacred777
@Water_is_Sacred777 11 месяцев назад
This is absolutely brilliant. I can relate to just about every word spoken on this vlog; I don't think I've ever heard it described so clearly. The person that comes to mind was someone from decades ago. Not a family member but a man I was with for 2 years. I was newly divorced when we met and wow did he see me coming. He hid it so well until I tried to leave. Then the mask came off. Fast forward to today I am working with my therapist to solidify a healthy understanding of trust. I am learning that trusting someone is ok. It's up to me to have strong boundaries when I encounter some one new and to realize that not everyone is untrustworthy. A balance. It's been a long, long road but I'm coming out on the other side. I can't thank Dr. Ramani enough for her work.
@janetsanderson2562
@janetsanderson2562 Год назад
I have every one of them. I just can't throw them away. I was with him 22 years, separated for 14. I still wait.
@sand0077
@sand0077 Год назад
Sharing photos of the narcissist, a true Kodak moment! 😆
@sol57
@sol57 11 месяцев назад
I have made the ickylist and it is a good idea. All too long I justified a lot of crap going on. So happy to, most of the time, see things much more realisticly and clearly.
@anacecilia.digital
@anacecilia.digital Год назад
Great! Thanks, doctor Ramani! ❤
@egrace3738
@egrace3738 11 месяцев назад
This helped me a lot. It helps put into perspective the great/interesting times.
@RachelStark-vs3dp
@RachelStark-vs3dp Месяц назад
That’s wild I have went back and looked at the pics of me and my ex. I went str8 to how he looked in the face and eyes and said to myself that is a pic of a person faking. It hurts sooo bad
@karlippo
@karlippo Год назад
I made that list. Two years ago already. Somehow it didnt quite land with me (i was still in the relationship). Then I started emdr twice a week after being discarded in January (while he turned out had a girlfriend already seven months apart from me) and realizing i was in a trauma bond . LIFE SAVER!! Emdr! And the thing is, as the trauma has been lifted, I can only now see the full madness and abuse in that list and I literally 🤮 every single day when I read that list 😮 now…. i couldnt feel it before. There was a mist in my head and feelings. But now the magnitude of the abuse is hitting me like never before and it actually makes me vomit realizing how bad it was 😢 like my system rejects him now ful force. Even though I sometimes still have this longing for the good times with him. Its sick shit… i re read the list then and get the physical reaction again. Time… i need time to heal. I will get there. But man… its so sick how he managed to complete trauma bond me abuse me and working on my underlying issues to never ever again accept something as horrific like this ever again
@ChrissyxXx
@ChrissyxXx 11 месяцев назад
There will always be normal wonderful moments in any relationship, but with a narcissist,.they will always leave a black mark next to it,.to destroy you all over again
@summertime9963
@summertime9963 11 месяцев назад
Euphoric recall for me was denying the Narcs abuse to other people, to fit in. Essentially it was people pleasing.
@rayarena879
@rayarena879 Год назад
I used to gaslight myself.
@joannecohen6764
@joannecohen6764 3 месяца назад
Thanks so much for this video. I wish I had seen it years ago.
@barbpace-lamb
@barbpace-lamb Год назад
Thank you! XOXOXOX
@user-fd2mr8rf3h
@user-fd2mr8rf3h 11 месяцев назад
God, I do so much suffer from euphoric recall. So bad that I even can’t remember the bad things that happend. And I get stuck all the time
@user-fd2mr8rf3h
@user-fd2mr8rf3h 11 месяцев назад
The good times were my live preservers I think now
@chriswalls5831
@chriswalls5831 Год назад
Why go back to them when I got better
@lsmmoore1
@lsmmoore1 Год назад
The ick list sounds a lot like what I've called "counting your curses". That's pretty much what it sounds like, the opposite of "counting your blessings" because "curse" is the opposite of "blessing", and while yes, it's good to count your blessings, it's like was said here, narcissists use your blessings (that they bestowed, because according to them how dare you count any blessing they didn't bestow or worse, one they don't like but what makes you happy). They use those blessings against you, so that you're forced to see only the good they did and blame yourself for your unhappiness. And so counting one's curses makes it harder for counting of one's blessings to do that. I would say it's a good idea to count blessings AND curses, and take stock of where those came from (which "curses" really were just life happening and which were contrived - a thing I wish more people would do because too many contrived "curses" are treated the same as the natural ones - and which blessings came from you or were otherwise offered freely, and which were conditional, and of the conditional ones which ones could be obtained another way that doesn't demand those same conditions).
@karolemcaninch6495
@karolemcaninch6495 11 месяцев назад
You're brilliant
@ronkaz8091
@ronkaz8091 Год назад
spent last 3+ yrs alone and isolated and understanding me and life find the why and it has changed me in a better manner i agree with all you say analyzed very well great work
@wendysimpson6395
@wendysimpson6395 Год назад
Mum always posed us for photos.....even my friends were told how to stand.
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