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I like to think Sisyphus' punishment was Persephone's idea specifically. "Tell you what, I'm a reasonable goddess. You roll this rock to the top of that hill, and you can live out the rest of your days free from death." Then every time the rock falls, Hades always seems to hear a dark chuckle coming from Persephone.

As far as creators from OSP go, Red and Blue are the primary ones; everyone else is more niche. Cyan is Blue's wife; Indigo is their producer and primary editor on their podcast; Magenta is Red's sister and a TTRPG enthusiast; Yellow refers to their friend LudoHistory, who specializes in Norse myth; and there are several Greens, which is the colour usually referring to one of Blue's numerous college roommates.

Cannot help think Ares and Hades have a good uncle/nephew relationship. Also, African gods deal with trouble makers with guidance, reasonable conversation, show respect, and just telling the guy how to behave.

I love the way Rick Riordan explains the ending of the Sekhmet myth in Kane Chronicles: they bought her a few pints and she became a cow

generally speaking, Hades is a pretty reasonable god. man's just chilling. of course, you wouldn't want to piss him off, because pissing off any god is a bad idea, but if you *have* to piss off a god... yeah, doing it to Hades will probably lead to a lesser punishment than doing it to *Persephone*

I find it fascinating that Sisyphus’ punishment became divorced from his crime. The nature of the punishment is linked to the nature of his crime: the futile effort to stave off death.

I think the reason Sisyphus isn’t praised for his cunning is because he started this whole mess murdering people for profit. I feel like that cunning used to escape justice is less well regarded than cunning used in feats of heroism or for survival against injustice

13:42 I love how Red manages to draw people in such a way that it's very clear what part of the world they're from, without it being racist. The videos on African and Asian myths etc showcase this very well.

I like the Sun Wukong energy Mwindo has. Chaos baby, god puncher and signature weapon that wasn’t meant to be used for murder. And of course being Sassy lad with a temper that gets learneded about how killing bad.

"Does that make him their dad or granddad?" Yes.

6:57 Fun fact, a lot of scholars believe that Aphrodite was a goddess of war first, and became a goddess of love later, only really losing her war goddess status because the Greeks didn’t like strong violent women much and Ares whole thing was war so her being war as well would invalidate his existence.

Sisyphus' myth seems to be more a cautionary tale on consequnces catching up with you rather than the usual warnings about hubris or trickery.

Sandman. Airier. *Read Sandman.* The author's kind of embarrassed that the 1st book isn't his _"best"_ work, but it was the 1st comic in the Times _"Books to read before you die"_ list for a reason. There's the audio book and TV series too now. Seriously, it consistently boggles my mind just how many basic things about the world I was exposed to for the 1st time by that series.

38:22 I think what you’re trying to think of is Tartarus. The Greek underworld contained both the greek versions of heaven (the Elysian Fields) and hell (Tartarus)

Expect Thanatos' arrival, for he is inevitable. Respect Hades, for his domain is eternal. Dread Persephone, for her judgment is final. not really a quote from anywhere, just the easiest way for me to remember which one of them is the most dangerous one to piss off. Don't get me wrong, pissing off any one of those three is a mistake you'll regret for the rest of eternity, but one is a significantly worse mistake to make, than the other two.

Please don't take this the wrong way - because I love the excitement and curiousity. But you have a hysterical habit of stopping either directly before or in the exact middle of an explanation, and asking questions that are about to be answered. XD

If you want a slightly more historical aspect to these myths, then i recommend Red's longer videos on the individual Greek Gods... like "Miscellaneous Myths: Artemis and Apollo", "Miscellaneous Myths: Hades and Persephone", "Miscellaneous Myths: Dionysus", and "Miscellaneous Myths: Hermes". In the same vein id also recommend "Miscellaneous Myths: The Wild Hunt" and "Miscellaneous Myths: Loki". Those videos do go deep into the mythology of these myths, but they also touch on their cultural and historical backgrounds. Personally i would also recommend you check out some of their Trope Talks, they are also really fun, even if you already know the tropes she is going to talk about.

9:43 The Inca Empire used these. These ropes were called Quipu, and they were used to record information, not just for accounting, but it's also possible they were used for writing. The Inca employed messengers known as the Chasqui, who used quipus to deliver information across the empire. Really interesting stuff!

Apollo held dominion over the city of Delphi

The story of Sekhmet is one of my favorite stories in mythology because; "Rampaging Lion Goddess of Vengeance is stopped in her murderous rampage by getting her too sloshed to continue fighting and then taking some of the horny out of her and creating a goddess or two from it so when she wakes up she's not as murder-y." And one of those goddesses later on literally dances naked to stop the ecclipse by getting the sun god to come out of a cave after being made fun of by Sobek. No, I'm not joking. Egyptian mythology is WILD and I love it.

I think you would really like Red's videos about Hermes, Dionysus, and Hades and Persephone. They talk about a lot of the details you've been asking for like how myths developed over time and what the original versions of gods were.

If you ever go over Red’s video on All Quiet on the Western Front, remember two things: It’s really, really, really, REALLY depressing and don’t DARE skip her credit sequence for that video, because her cover there is one I consider particularly lovely and somber.

38:40: I may not know much about this, and I haven't really looked much into Greco-Roman Myths in a long time (instead focusing more on Norse Mythology, Germanic Mythology, Celtic Mythology, Iberian Mythology, and so on), but I think the key reason that Sisyphus' trickery was despised, whereas other Greek heroes trickery was approved of is because of _what_ they used that trickery _for_ . In the heroes' cases, they used it to try and do something that was good or ordained by the gods (whether or not the gods did anything "good" is kind of a moot point, especially since directly questioning the gods would often be punished by death or a fate worse than death). It not done on their behalf for themselves, but to save others or at the very least do something to make other peoples' existences more bearable, like offering relief to a cursed individual so they're not depressed about their wretched condition. In Sisyphus' case, he does it solely for his own gain, which helps no one, and is a majorly arrogant dick about it, bragging about how he was much smarter or much cleverer than everybody else around him, taking the opportunity to gloat about it, and shows zero restraint or consideration for who he's mouthing off to. Not to mention, he killed a lot of people and managed to escape his initial punishment by rules lawyering his way out of it, forcing them to wait until he died of old age, growing more done with his shit all the while. Why they didn't immediately resume their attempt to kill him is beyond me, though I think that when he took advantage of Persephone's kindness, he or she may have sworn on the river Styx to not pursue him, to let him go in peace. That's only a guess on my end though, as there is no explanation given on why (when he didn't immediately return to the Underworld after saying that he had to go convince his wife to prepare the funerary rites for him) they didn't realize he wasn't willingly coming back; Red suggests here it's because Thanatos is wary of Sisyphus and suffering from an injured pride, not wanting to deal with the bastard anymore or be made a fool of again.

34:59 That is the Ankou, a psychopomp figure from Breton mythology (from Brittany, the peninsula jutting out of northwestern France, which retained its Celtic culture for a long time even after the Roman and Frankish conquests of Gaul).

Hades: "Hmmm...these dead guys don't seem to get the concept of 'eternal damnation'...perhaps I should consult THE WIFE." Dead Guys: "HEY WHOA, NOPE! Let's get to that totally justified punishment!"

If you want to consider any of Red’s videos for a Halloween Special of your own, you might consider her videos on Frankenstein and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. They both dive into things that many likely don’t know about those stories.

I LOVE when Airier “um actually”’s a LITERAL cultural anthropologist 🙃

42:00 I think souls/ghost in the greek underworld were called "shades" so the design choice is very fitting.

My best intro to Egyptian mythology was the Kane Chronicles. Riordan didn't do as much with the Egyptians as the Greek and Roman myths, or as well, but it is an underappreciated part of his catalogue... need to finish up Trials of Apollo and the Magnus Chase books..

39:50 The joke: literally being that Aphrodite says only ATHENA has a city with a fully developed legal system, ATHENS Airier: "Did Aphrodite have a city with a fully developed legal system? Delphi. It's probably Delphi."

Epic of mwindo is one of my favorites, there aren’t many African myths left out there and to have one with multiple great messages a happy ending and gods who aren’t complete dicks is so refreshing

15:30 The last name/dynasty you're looking for is Tudor. Henry VIII was Queen Elizabeth's father, so you are off from Victoria by around two centuries.

26:08 I don't think it's that. Mwindo killed the King of the Underworld, twice, or thrice. Of course he's gonna want this badass mortal to be his son-in-law, and be the sire of his demi-god grandchildren. Having him stay permanently in the underworld is optional. 42:36 I feel like this would've been funnier if Red drew Thanatos stuffing his face with wine and chicken. 42:52 How would you like spending a month straight locked up in a small box? I think OSP Thanatos might've developed claustrophobia from that too.

Initial internet searches say that Henry the Eighth is of the House of Tudor. So... his full name was Henry Tudor.

Scepter of office! BAHAHAHA!

Ethiopia is the one with structures attributed to Solomon, or rather Solomon's son with Makeda the Queen of Sheba/Saba, Menelik I. They are part of Ethiopia's founding myth and have been part of one of the oldest Christian nation from days of Rome to the 1970s. The only meddling was by Europeans who believed Prestor John was in charge of Ethiopia and the Ethiopians never correcting them because they thought it was their word for King

the thing about tricking is it's okay to trick your peers, not the gods. that gods are above all mortal rules.

My guy you need to pay attention more because a frame before the bird showed, the uncle in question already had the circles over his head, as reference to cartoon waking up with a hangover

Delphi was Apollo's. I suppose one can make a case for aphrodite with Corinth, but the more obvious one would be one city later being renamed "Aphrodisias", but that was in Anatolia, i.e. what would become Turkey.

I would love to see you react to Blue's Dumb Italy Stories on Overly Sarcastic Productions detailing his trip to Italy. I seriously think you would love it as much as I did the first time watching.

Yes, writing is old. The oldest texts are from 3,500 BCE. However, compare that to the _160 thousand years_ that humans could have been telling stories from, Writing is still a relatively new concept.

Athens had a whole legal system.

I doubt it's just him that had the thought "daughter = pay me for marriage" but it's certainly a him thing for "no males! the will only cost me money" thinking. There are probably still cultures now that keep up a tradition like this but it's not a pay-to-date as you put it (15:05) it's more financial compensating the brides family for the loss of their daughter being within their family when they marry into the other one.

*Sisyphus:* The Gods were kind, for when the boulder is tumbling, it gives me a chance to rest.

Gave the death god trauma now thats a feat

Does that make Ra her dad or her granddad? Mythology: Yes

I believe the pyramids would be more Blue's territory.

Kinda, Henry Tudor is typically the name.given to Henry the 8th father, in order to seperate from the 6thnother Henry

osp does have playlists of regions and religions if you want to just see some videos on theme

Arier... I dunno how to say this... But a painting is not writing. If that was true you would say that all the artists were also by default writing. In addition the cave paintings do show some understanding of language as the symbols are simplified.

“Technically a Star Ocean” you sir…are funny

3:38 That is how some Egyptians might have seen the gods. Red does not really explain the part about gods being seen differently depending on the location and of course depending on the era.

It’s not just the eye of ra in the mythology there’s also the eye of Horus which is something red brings up in her videos about underworld myths cause of Horus being the son of Osiris.

about the cavepaintings counting as writing meaning that writing predates language thing... that is assuming stone-age people who lived in caves did not have language and that is a huge assumption, they most like had language.

Can’t wait for man to watch the immortal badassery of The Epic Of Gilgamesh video

30:04 so torchwood miracle day (spin off of doctor who).Davy only had tentacle in pirate film same as was only a ghost in spongebob and wasn't captain for flying Duchman though honestly forgot his ship actually name,i think xena did a episode around Sisyphus may be missremembing

Henry VIII was a Tudor Also in Greek Myth the underworld has different areas The people who who the very best humanity had to offer morally went to Elysium, the normal bland souls went to the Asphoedel Meadows, the worst of the worst went to Tartarus to be punihsed for eternity. And Delphi was where Apollo's Oracle was

Delphi was dedicated to Apollo. Or more accurately, the Oracle of Deplhi was. AFAIK, not all of the gods had specific cities- Athena and Athens are kind of a rare case, and most like Athena was invented by Athens entirely. Gods did have regional popularity, however. First, urban and rural divides see a lot of different gods covering the same rolls, though the rural ones are typically less well-recorded. But in addition, Hercules basically became a god in his own right among the Spartans and most of Magna Graecia, the colonies in Italy and whatnot. You also see Aphrodite fall out of favor as a love goddess in those same regions iirc, largely replaced by...it was either Hera or Persephone, I forget.

For the Sysiphus story I imagined a Yu-Gi-Oh crossover scene where they have to ask Sysiphus for information, but he refuses to help unless they roll his rock to the top of the hill for him. They collectively all decide Noah - for background he's Kaiba's stepbrother from the season 3 filler arc who cheated death at least once by be virtualized after he got into a car accident as a child - is the best person to do it, because he cheated death too. Noah is 110% done with this but he complies, since he hast the body of a ten year old it takes a stupid long time, and by the end of it he's even more done and when Sysiphus begs him to do it again he yells at Sysiphus to move his own rock and lets the rock roll back down the hill (optionally crushing sysiphus's ghost on the way down)

Sisyphus was basically a Bugs Bunny cartoon.

"Being a pedant." As a fellow pedant, you're welcome.

You do a great old-person voice.

22:10 In the version of the story I was told, Kahindo also told Mwindo that the food Muisa offers is actually his excrement.

Ok, here me out... Senile Ra meets Old Gothi

I think the lines around the eye of Ra represent the markings around a hawk's or falcon's eyes; don't hold me to that, but I read that somewhere.

7:10 you have got to watch the Aphrodite video because you have no idea how right your war statement actually is

Thanks for this reaction.

Aries as a PE teacher will be very cool in my mind

How did you read it as “Skemet”? The E was before the K…

I see that you are very interested in mythology and such.... because of that i want to take the opportunity to recommend a series of videos called "Destripando la Historia"... They are songs with either drawn or animated music videos that shows the most important stories of some of the most iconic characters in several mythologies. The songs are very well produced and have a ton of Pop Culture references and comedic gags, the only catch to them is that they're in Spanish...... but don't worry there are channels in youtube which give those videos accurate subtitles.

"Scepter of Office" ? 😂

43:25 - in Greek mythology in general, Persephone was seen as way scarier than Hades. Her name literally means "bringer of death," FFS.

39:52 The way I gasped when he said Delphi 😭 Apollo would be offended and disappointed Also, I think Aphrodite is the patron goddess of the island Kypros ( Cyprus ) ? Edit : Apparently there’s also myths where she share the position of patron of Korinthos ( Corinth ) with Poseidon ???

On how weird Sekhmet's creation is: TRUST ME, THAT IS ON THE TAMER SIDE ON HOW EGYPTIAN MYTHOLOGY DOES THINGS. Like, say, a certain contest between gods based around male bodily fluids on Egyptian proto-salads. Yeah, shit gets wild in ways you'll regret knowing. Also, while I'd love to learn more about African myths with you (seeing as my own knowledge on the overall general subject is akin to a bee larvae in a stump-sized hive), the sucky thing about African tribal mythoses and why we don't have a lot of it is that most - if not, all tribes in Africa have maintained and upheld an oral tradition and have passed on all these stories by mouth. Y'know, the old fashioned way, before we carved stories into walls. The reason being thus: They believe that written history or religious beliefs are Dead due to their unchanging form, and that such things can only really live as they are carried by word; changing and growing with the generations. While this is interesting and reflects on a very interesting philosophy of having Traditions grow with the coming new generations, this is frustrating because we don't have the Master myth and what we have is just memories of memories of memories. Hell, what's worse to realize is that we may have lost more stories than what we can learn now due to epidemics, millennia of tribal conflicts, and that hige debacle of Europe taking African land. Plus, whike tribespeople can be based as Hell, there is a slight chance they will disown whatever work you make in trying to make some written form of the myth because it's Dead by their standards, like the first time Anansi was Categorized by an anthropologist in the 1900's. But most times, they either won't care that you just scribbled their stories down, or of you're really lucky, be legit happy somebody from far away wants to hear their story and share it with others. Side note about the bride-wealth payments: they are basically just dowries; especially since dowries in Africa could likely be similar to dowries in places like, say, Denmark. Good clothing or tools, livestock, precious materials, slaves; what's traded is really more based on what's most preciousky coveted where. Like, a barge of silken clothings can get you a middle noble's daughter in Japan, five young Yews and two cows can get you a Jarl's daughter in Scandinavia, and salt tablets, gold and quality slaves can get you any high-ranking wife in Northwestern Africa back in the days of yore. Hell, pretty sure a cart load of narwhal tusks can get you every daughter of a fairly greedy Sultan (yeah, medicine was weird back then) Final note: The funny thing about Sisyphus is that he really didn't learn his lesson. Wanna know how he spent his second chance at life? He kept doing the same shit he was doing until he pissed off the wrong guy and went on the run with his wife to avoid dying; where he died of old age, in his sleep, in the middle of a desert. And what was he rewarded with: the God of Silent Death, the Stoic Lord of the Underworld, and the Dread Persephone directly in front of him with malicious intent. And to add lemon juice to the fresh cut: that path he pushes the bouler up on is greased.

12:53 The Dust Bowl!

When will people learn that furries aren't zoophiles, also bast is the Egyptian equivalent of Artemis Greek goddess of the hunt, moon, asexual icon, and badassitude

Yes, all us weebs went straight to "star ocean" too

Was the star ocean thing a reference to Gunnerkrigg Court?

Blue has done several history videos about Egypt.

My head canon is that every god in every religion was at one point a furry...except Jesus the oldes painting why have found of him was with a stick like a wand all I heard from that GRYFFINDIR!!!

please if you're going to do a diatribe, do the one on god of war. It's fantastic and talks about the core theme of the newest game

15:38 henry XIII and it was Tudor period

11:00 so basically, you’re Odin.😄😄

It’s more of trying to defeat death

as far as im aware the greek underworld is called erebus

Mwindo for FGO lmao

what a little geek :)

10:48: Heh, people say the same about me. Which is why I heavily empathize with Airier when he, for whatever reason, feels that he needs to apologize or put up a disclaimer so he doesn't piss off the perpetually angry, drama-and-negativity-fueled commentators who'll spit fire at you for saying something they don't agree with, or because they interpreted your words as having a much different, more serious/ harmful intent then what you really meant. It's why I don't enjoy being on Discord or social media all that much. It's like punt-kicking a hornets nest into a lions den and then proceeding to be chased by both the hornets _and_ the lions! And I'm not even trying to be 'smug' or 'abrasive' on purpose! It's just that folks interpret my comments that way because of their length and general verbosity, because I try to make a comment that's more than a just simple one worded 'First!' or 'Wassup' or that is a heavily-garbled, near-indecipherable string of letters like what you'd see during those error loading bluescreens (that's literally what cell-phone and internet text lingo looks like to me, making it hard to tell what's an abbreviation or an acronym or what have you; I may have been born in the 90's, but when it comes to reading or speaking on social media, I'm practically a boomer). I especially really hate it when folks tell me 'Too Long; Didn't Read' (even greater offense is felt when they abbreviate it to 'Tl;Dr,' because to me, it shows that they couldn't even be bothered to spell out what they wanted to say, they probably just lazily clicked it on their iPhones or tablets, without even looking up, with the same callous, jaded, apathetic indifference of bored teenagers and young adults, causing me to pinch the bridge of my nose in frustration like some long-suffering parent or high-school teacher who isn't getting paid enough to put up with this shit) Also, people think I'm more snobbish than I actually am, because you can't really tell the tone of the writer's comment as there are no sounds or stressors to indicate where emphasis is being placed (helpful hint; for those who want to use italics in your comments, you basically press shift key, and press the hyphen button next to the zero on your keyboard, changing it to an underscore symbol; then, you make sure that there's space between the words, otherwise it gets italicized too, which I find annoying because I have to put spaces behind the punctuation marks and the damned spellchecker makes that stupid red squiggly line like it's passing moral judgement on you for trying to edit your text into a more nuanced, easily-readable form), resulting in Poe's Law, as people try to interpret their own meaning by placing the emphasis where they feel it ought to be, leading to miscommunication of intent. What the author likely didn't _intend_ to come across as snobbish, sounds that way to somebody else on the internet, due to expectations fostered by Reddit or 4-Chan or other messageboard sites where folks regularly get into flame wars. In my case, I'm just a very nerdy, socially-awkward thirty-something who enjoys sharing trivia and offering advice. Not forcing it on folks, being like 'My way is the only way, and if you diverge whatsoever, then the wrath of God will be felt, so help me!' or some other cringe edgelord holier-than-thou tirade. If you want to believe or disregard what I tell you, that's _YOUR_ decision, no one else's, so you are free to do as you please. Just don't bite my head off or start fights over something that didn't need to be a fight in the first place, making a mountain out of a molehill. The internet is a frightening, frightening place I fear and despise, yet can't keep myself away from.

He mentioned an SCP and I’m too lazy to look up its colloquial name so can anyone give me its number?

Wait so is scp end of death as bad or worst then when day breaks cause when day breaks is FUUCKED

Okay let me explain Hades the greek underworld not the god is divided in two realms the first being tartarus the greek equivalent of hell and it's counterpart Elysium the greek heaven

Please watch the thoughts movie it’s a really really really good undertail animation. Thank you and goodbye.

Cave Paintings r story telling

Aphrodite city was Corinth city prostitutes Aries is city was Sparta Athenas was Athens and Delphi was Apollos

I love that people are reacting to these videos but the addiction to reading EVERY DIALOGUE is tiresome 😑, love the though