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How to use a gas generator to charge your EV.
Learn through my mistakes. After a few fails I get the generator to work using the 110V and 220V outputs on my generator.
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@pinkiepie1656
@pinkiepie1656 9 месяцев назад
To folks who aren't familiar with electricity.......the ground lug on a generator does nothing for the functioning of a curcuit. What the car charging equipment is looking for is the neutral to ground bond.
@SB-dg8hq
@SB-dg8hq 2 месяца назад
I would have liked to see this trial done with a earthing rod pushed into the lawn or soil. This would be better for safety and as I understand it, that is how a generator should be earthed. To save time in a powercut you could knock a earthing rod into the ground so all you will have to do is connect your generator to it in the future.
@ronmoz5815
@ronmoz5815 3 года назад
thank you sir for the information
@wdbldr67
@wdbldr67 4 месяца назад
The afapter determines amps. If you had the 5-20 adapter you would gave pulled 16 amps and got 6 yo 7 mph on the 120 volt.
@rickhop1417
@rickhop1417 3 года назад
Thank you for explaining that. I tell my electric car loving friends you can’t charge your car if the power is out with your generator. now I can be the power god when they call and say your were right Rick.
@mmark300
@mmark300 3 года назад
Haha - knowledge is power!
@professionalguy9346
@professionalguy9346 Год назад
Awesome video 🎉
@iEditProjects
@iEditProjects 2 года назад
We just picked up a model y yesterday and will be using 110V to charge. We also have had a model 3 for about 16 months and the 110V has worked just fine. If my math is correct we can charge at a rate of 840 miles per week which is plenty. Yes it's slow but it works.
@mmark300
@mmark300 2 года назад
For the first year or so I only had 110v and didn't have an issue until one week in winter when I had to drive over 100 miles a day. I had to hit a supercharger after a few days... You'll need to use another circuit in your garage for the second Tesla, however.
@iEditProjects
@iEditProjects 2 года назад
@@mmark300 Thank you for the reply. Right now they are simply sharing one charger, charging one at a time. I know it’s not ideal but I’ll try it for a few days and check back in.
@mmark300
@mmark300 2 года назад
@@iEditProjects FYI - your garage door opener should be on a different circuit than the rest of the garage, so if needed, you could use that outlet for one of them.
@williadawilliams
@williadawilliams 3 года назад
good trail and error. and ways of thinking out of the box.
@NYRM1974
@NYRM1974 Год назад
Electric cars 100 years ago had this problem. If I recall Excide made the batteries for cars like the BAKER and BALDWIN EV cars. Batteries at that time allowed you to swap out and get a new one. But today I feel we need to further develop synthetic fuels for cars. We already have synthetic oil why not fuel?
@mmark300
@mmark300 Год назад
One day, one day...
@NYRM1974
@NYRM1974 Год назад
@@mmark300 well if you ever looked at the documentary Who Killed the Electric Car it showed a segment in which in the country Brazil a bio fuel development program going on since the 1970s which is still in existence even today in the country of Brazil. The whole moral to this is that synthetic fuel production can be achieved its the Democratic left that holds back its development.
@mmark300
@mmark300 Год назад
@@NYRM1974 What makes you think the left is holding up synthetic fuels? Wouldn't this field be much more prevalent somewhere else on this planet if they were viable? Which party supports big oil and coal? And which party denies climate change, supported pulling us out of the Paris accord and slows all of the green new tech?
@NYRM1974
@NYRM1974 Год назад
@@mmark300 learn about Stanley Meyer and his hydrogen dune buggy. And ask yourself why was he silenced? We have synthetic oils how come we don't have synthetic fuels think about it ask yourself why they never went forward with biofuel production however in the 1970s the country of Brazil Pioneer biofuel development and they still use it today. Weed the United States a superpower still living in the Dark Ages. Remember an electric car has to charge up. I own a 2004 Chevy Trailblazer but that can also run on ethanol and during Hurricane Sandy I had no problem getting around. And when you have a power grid that goes out how you going to power an electric vehicle think about that.
@spencerpieters5502
@spencerpieters5502 Год назад
I bet your neighbours appreciated the sound of that generator.
@mmark300
@mmark300 Год назад
I know... I did feel bad about the noise and is why I started using those plywood baffles to lower the impact
@PBJelIyTime
@PBJelIyTime 6 месяцев назад
Would this work using a bonding plug and instead of the 120v outlet use the 14-30 generator outlet so that you could use a 30 amp generator cord (using an adapter for the Tesla 240v (14-50 to 14-30 adapter) or alternatively plug the Tesla 14-50 directly into 14-30 adapter and into generator (advantage of the generator cord is being able to place a noisy generator further away). Would either of these methods work so you could charge at a faster rate (24 amps per adapter safety specs) than 120 outlet slow rate?
@mmark300
@mmark300 6 месяцев назад
In this case, I think my generator really can't supply much more than what I showed - maybe 30 amps at 240v. And using the Tesla mobile charger at 120v, I'm limited to it's max, 32 amps.
@drrobotnikmeanbeanma
@drrobotnikmeanbeanma Год назад
Them electric stoves that has a 220 line can you plug it into a gas generator into the 220 line and get the electric stove to start ?
@mmark300
@mmark300 Год назад
Yes, just have to make sure the generator is rated for enough power.
@jimmyl8332
@jimmyl8332 3 года назад
a power inverter generator with bonding plug works!
@RICKYDUVALL
@RICKYDUVALL 3 года назад
Could be because it requires clean sine wave electric? Maybe it just needs clean power
@mmark300
@mmark300 3 года назад
Could be that or it's just not able to quickly output increasing amperage to satisfy the Tesla. I would have liked to compare it to a higher quality generator...
@EarlBalentine
@EarlBalentine 2 года назад
There's a special plug you can buy on Ebay, it's called a grounding bonding neutral plug. Generators have a floating ground and Tesla charging system doesn't recognize it, but with the special bonding plug it will charge.
@samlocke2338
@samlocke2338 3 года назад
I have a Generac XP10000E 10KW portable genset. The generator would not power my house as there is neutral/ground bond internal to the generator. I disconnected this neutral/ground bond and now it will run my home (that already has a ground). A neutral/ground plug should make my generator able to charge an electric vehicle. Distortion on my XP10000E is
@fladave99
@fladave99 Год назад
1000x the pollution with a ZERO POLLUTION CONTROL generator GENIUS. #SAVE THE EARTH DUMMY
@emaes2
@emaes2 Год назад
@@fladave99 nobody cares about the planet its about saving money and portability to travel off grid. Who cares.
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 Год назад
wr9ng
@benkanobe7500
@benkanobe7500 Год назад
Is there any concern that your generator may not be a "Pure Sine Wave" and maybe a "Modified Sine Wave"? Can the non-pure sine wave damage the electronics of the Tesla?
@mmark300
@mmark300 Год назад
Not really because if the tesla detects a sine wave, or any type of signal, it doesn't like, it won't try to charge with it.
@benkanobe7500
@benkanobe7500 Год назад
@@mmark300 Good to hear. It of course Wants to detect a pure sine wave. I just have an older HONDA 6500 that is modified sine wave and didn't want to risk my Tesla plugging into it. I do have a HONDA 2200i that is an inverter generartor that is pure sine wave and so can slow charge on that in an emergency. Thanks!!
@aboon1312
@aboon1312 Год назад
How Can you make Ground om Honda inverter?
@murda2999
@murda2999 3 года назад
This does show that if you ran out of power a few miles from home or a charger, there is now a way for somebody to come and connect to your car to give you enough power to get you going again. A generator and bonding plug can be the equivalent of a little can of gas. Right now if you run out of power, you need a flat bed tow to take you to a charger.
@mmark300
@mmark300 3 года назад
Yes! I already believe that wherever you are, you are closer to an electrical outlet than gas. With this option there are even more choices. On road trips I bring my charging cable, 110v and 220v plugs, a 12g extension cord and now this bonding plug.
@clee666
@clee666 Год назад
Can we power the fridge from the Tesla?
@mmark300
@mmark300 Год назад
Not without some serious hacking.
@FredCooper-en1sd
@FredCooper-en1sd 5 месяцев назад
The ground you need it to the car, not the earth. Remember the car is on rubber tires.
@olliereed4206
@olliereed4206 2 года назад
I guess the generator is a 'world' type the 240 line would be based on the British wall outlet which is 240 volt 13amps max
@mikey-joecaudell8808
@mikey-joecaudell8808 3 года назад
I'm curious what gas mileage is like using the generator only to fill up the car. Would 5 gallons be enough?
@mmark300
@mmark300 3 года назад
It depends on what you mean by 'fill up the car', but from a 0% charge, not even close. If we were able to max this generator out at 6,000 running watts, we would be able to turn it up to 25A, which would charge the car at about 16 miles/hour. The tank holds 7 gallons and says it will run 5.5 hours at a full load. 5.5 * 16 is only 88 miles... The Tesla model 3 is rated at about 300 miles on a full charge. So this would be a very expensive method to fill this car up. From 0% to 100% (0-300 miles) would take almost 24 gallons of gas and cost ~$72 based on $3 per gallon of gas. Plugging in would be WAY cheaper. 75kWhr battery * .135 = $10.125 (.135 is ave cost per kwh of electricity) Inefficiencies would add another 10%, so a little over $11.
@armadilllo
@armadilllo 2 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣generator putting out 100 times more smog than a modern car
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 Год назад
@@armadilllo wroñg
@armadilllo
@armadilllo Год назад
@@sharonbraselton4302 right
@mmark300
@mmark300 Год назад
@@armadilllo Operating a new, average portable gasoline generator (~3.5 hp) at an average load of 1.8 kW for 1 hour emits as much smog-forming pollution as driving an average passenger vehicle for about 150 miles.
@nicholasplesko533
@nicholasplesko533 2 года назад
Can you charge an ev with gen, while driving?
@mmark300
@mmark300 2 года назад
Unfortunately no, only hybrids can use their motor to charge the batteries while the motor drives the car. Otherwise we could just pull trailers with big generators :)
@EarlBalentine
@EarlBalentine 2 года назад
@@mmark300 I think Tesla recognizes the charging door is open and will not let you place the car in drive.
@mmark300
@mmark300 2 года назад
@@EarlBalentine I guess it could be that simple but it seems that someone would have tried bypassing the door sensor at this point. I'm guessing they have another more sophisticated check.
@professionalguy9346
@professionalguy9346 Год назад
If you did the same thing to a 240 line modified ground first plug 240 Tesla charger second ⚡️
@benkanobe7500
@benkanobe7500 Год назад
Great idea on what to do with old gas!
@allaboutroofing2
@allaboutroofing2 Год назад
Not if you care about your generator. Gasoline contains at least 10% ethanol and ethanol attracts water molecules from the air. While it may run, it will usually misfire a bit and will run hot. Gas with 10% ethanol lasts about 6 months, maybe a year....after that dispose of it. Hopefully he turned off the fuel and ran the gas out of the carb before storing it...I extract the gas from mine and run it dry prior to storage and put the gas in my truck while it's still fresh. Buy gas as needed or buy non ethanol gas (sold at mavericks or Murphy's for about the same price as premium) and put stabilizer in it. You can store gas for a few years this way.
@benkanobe7500
@benkanobe7500 Год назад
@@allaboutroofing2 Thanks. He didn't mention if it was ethanol free or not. From my experience, it had to be or it just would not have run. I run Avgas in all my stuff as I am a pilot and just purchase extra fuel for my generators, tractors, chainsaws, weedwackers, ......... That fuel lasts decades (just like gasoline from when I was a boy). You can remove the ethanol from fuel by just adding water and shaking it up. Ethanol has an affinity towards water and so it combines with it. All the ethanol settles to the bottom of the tank (I use 5 gallon glass bottles). You then siphon the ethanol free gasoline off the top and have gas that lasts many years. I add a little octane boost due to the loss from removing the ethanol.
@arecibo1974
@arecibo1974 2 года назад
6,000 watts divided by 240 volts = 25 amps
@tonecrazy88
@tonecrazy88 Год назад
I’ve had the same issue with using cheaper phone chargers.
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 Год назад
chief never biy chef get go9d al or hih ebd stuff he not stupid
@redbeardseance2366
@redbeardseance2366 Год назад
Lol the Irony of all this.
@muchohandyman2562
@muchohandyman2562 Год назад
This is hilarious should've used your tongue to find the neutral lol
@DanWebster
@DanWebster 3 года назад
you could take you gen with you on long trips, you get out middle of nowhere and boom you got back up!
@mmark300
@mmark300 3 года назад
Yes!
@billbutler6926
@billbutler6926 2 года назад
@@mmark300 Boom you are back up? In 5 hours maybe.
@mmark300
@mmark300 2 года назад
@@billbutler6926 How many miles do you need to be "back up"? If you only need a few miles then you'll have them in 10 minutes.
@Sian37
@Sian37 Год назад
Stick it in the trunk just in case you ran out of charge on the road.
@mmark300
@mmark300 Год назад
While mine is way too big for that, it is somewhat of an option
@lomed
@lomed 2 года назад
Hello
@mmark300
@mmark300 2 года назад
Hi
@robertwolfe2971
@robertwolfe2971 Год назад
Your suppose to block the ground off.tesalas don't charge with a ground.
@garyballard723
@garyballard723 Год назад
Gas generators for green vehicles because the power grid is antiquated at best with a small percentage of vehicles in use, and you can only charge at certain times of the day......LMAO....imagine the impossible demand on the grid if everyone drove one.
@mmark300
@mmark300 Год назад
Grids vary across the nation, with California and Texas being the worst as far as I know. No where else do I hear of being forced to charge at certain times. Of course, most EVs are charged at home at night anyway... It sure beats having to stop at gas stations. However, prepping for the next 10 years, or so, will only involve an additional 30% increase in grid capacity. While that is significant, it's very doable. And which would you rather burn, Saudi oil (gas cars) or American coal, nuclear, etc (EVs)?
@regularpit1508
@regularpit1508 2 года назад
If it's not pure sine wave that may not be a good idea although it is a Tesla so I may need a little abuse.
@domg7359
@domg7359 2 года назад
It doesn't need pure sine power, it has an onboard charger that can take very dirty power and condition it. It will stop charging if it detects more than it can handle as shown in the video.
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 Год назад
qrong
@FrankE.Stein-nh2mm
@FrankE.Stein-nh2mm 2 года назад
This is the literal definition of an oxymoron
@mmark300
@mmark300 2 года назад
Haha, yeah, if that was the only goal.
@stuartmenzies3928
@stuartmenzies3928 2 года назад
Turn down the Amps
@wandameadows5736
@wandameadows5736 Год назад
Maybe one day Humans will advance to having fuel station's anyone can pull into & in 5 minutes get enough fuel to go 300-500 miles. Wouldn't that be something?
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 Год назад
qr8ng
@pinkiepie1656
@pinkiepie1656 9 месяцев назад
If you like putting $80 in everytime you fill up. Also, how many hours of your job does it take to do that "5 minute fill up"? LoL:) Takes me 10 seconds to plug my car in overnight, which happens to be when my electricity is half off.
@737T1C130
@737T1C130 2 года назад
They should make electric cars with gas generators built in.
@mmark300
@mmark300 2 года назад
They have, they're called hybrids.
@737T1C130
@737T1C130 2 года назад
@@mmark300 I thought those were just gasoline powered cars with electric motors.
@mmark300
@mmark300 2 года назад
@@737T1C130 You are correct in that hybrids are more gas car than electric - I was more or less joking. It does seem like an electric car maker could make kind of small, efficient, built-in generator, but it is a pretty big add-on that would require gas and all kinds of additional safety regulations as well as EPA requirements.
@iurhviusdfavhi
@iurhviusdfavhi 2 года назад
Its the BMW i8 that has both a gas and electric motor with different modes to take advantage.
@rifleshooterchannel208
@rifleshooterchannel208 Год назад
Cut out the middle man, buy a car that runs on gas.
@billbutler6926
@billbutler6926 2 года назад
My 2020 Ford Edge Titanium gets 28 miles to the gallon. 7 gallons gets me 196 miles. With the Generator and its 7 gallons I get 115 miles in a Tesla using a generator. And if it is aa emergency you will not be having this in your trunk! Yeah go electric. I was in the Army for 20 years and now I remember why I do not like green! LOL
@mmark300
@mmark300 2 года назад
What you say may be true except that the point of this video wasn't to suggest that using a gas generator was a good way to charge an EV. This video was just to show that a generator can be used to charge an EV and to show that it's not as straightforward as just plugging it in. Also, I think your Edge only gets about 21 mpg combined city/hwy.
@billbutler6926
@billbutler6926 2 года назад
@@mmark300 it is my car. I know what mileage I get. It is displayed on the dashboard. I used to drive across the southern Desert from St. Louis to Long Beach every week. I had two 5 gallon cans of gas and extra water. What is the max distance a Tesla or most any other electric be operated before it runs out? Will there be stations every 200 miles? Also yeah you can charge a electric with a generator that uses gasoline and oil. By the way the grease in the bearings and other moving metal Parts are made from petroleum products. Mobile synthetic oil will help. But buy a Prius. Much better solution to electrics. Well until it is time to replace the batteries.
@mmark300
@mmark300 2 года назад
@@billbutler6926 I'm only relaying what Ford says the Edge gets COMBINED mpg (Up to 21 city / 29 highway). So the Tesla 3 is rated for the equivalent of around 131 hwy / 145 city. Just like ICE cars, the Tesla could get a lot more mpg or a lot less. The rated range is somewhere around 270-350 miles. There are superchargers everywhere and even more level 2 chargers. Go to www.tesla.com/supercharger, scroll down a little and click on 'Find Us'. This is what really separates Tesla from the other manufacturers. I have taken a couple 2000+ mile road trips and had no worries. I also brought the charger and an extension cord just in case. You are always closer to an electricity than gas.
@billbutler6926
@billbutler6926 2 года назад
@@mmark300 so Ford inspected my Edge and what? I have paid about $500 to make my SUV much more efficient than your average Edge.
@billbutler6926
@billbutler6926 2 года назад
@@mmark300 never said anything about other Fords and the very accurate reporting on the EPA estimates on the invoices.
@rjames7380
@rjames7380 Год назад
I removed the bond for the ground on my generator. I then put the generator in the trunk ran the exhaust out & hard wired it up. I can now drive all day for only 5 bucks of gas. Haha. Broke the system 🔥
@fladave99
@fladave99 Год назад
1000x the pollution with a ZERO POLLUTION CONTROL generator GENIUS. #SAVE THE EARTH DUMMY
@stuartmenzies3928
@stuartmenzies3928 2 года назад
YOu may be lucky to get 12A and no more.......
@mmark300
@mmark300 Год назад
Did you watch the whole video? You could have even skipped ahead...
@mjt7231
@mjt7231 Год назад
They should invent cars that run on gas and then have a component that charges the battery. This way you don’t have use the generator.
@mmark300
@mmark300 Год назад
I think what you're describing is the hybrid cars.
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 Год назад
hybride çars
@dioworld
@dioworld 2 года назад
put this in the trunk and let it run and charge, turn taxi-la back into gas car
@mmark300
@mmark300 2 года назад
Too bad the Tesla won't drive with a charger plugged in...
@ryamelp
@ryamelp 2 года назад
Owns a Tesla, records on a potato. No disrespect. Good video.
@mmark300
@mmark300 2 года назад
Haha, yeah - videos are improving over time.
@CommandoJenkins
@CommandoJenkins Год назад
This defeats the purpose of not using gasoline.
@mmark300
@mmark300 Год назад
Yes, if done all the time, but that's not the point here.
@noelleonard2498
@noelleonard2498 2 года назад
😄😄😄😄
@gregorteply9034
@gregorteply9034 2 года назад
😂
@doaudi1720
@doaudi1720 6 месяцев назад
Evs double the damage to the environment Constantly needing fuel to charge 1200lbs of china batteries
@mmark300
@mmark300 6 месяцев назад
Double damage? Not true. Depending on where you live will determine the type of fuel needed to charge. Some of this fuel is still dirty, some is very green.
@alexmaccity
@alexmaccity 2 года назад
good thing internal combustion engines will be regulated out of existence. I love radical progressive change to save the environment.
@mmark300
@mmark300 2 года назад
Sounds to me like people (politicians) are trying to scare you, but maybe I'm wrong. Please tell me which radical progressive regulations have been imposed that are harming/scaring you.
@armadilllo
@armadilllo 2 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣clean air vehicle, generator putting out 100 times more smog than a modern car, you lefties crack me up
@mmark300
@mmark300 Год назад
A lefty is a person who would rather put old gas to good use instead of disposing of it?
@armadilllo
@armadilllo Год назад
@@mmark300 no a lefty is someone telling us how clean EVs are then burning gas from a generator with no emission control🤣🤣🤣
@mmark300
@mmark300 Год назад
@@armadilllo Have you actually watched the video or do you just jump on every EV video comment section to call people lefties? Watch the whole video to see if I tell everyone how clean EVs are. Then tell me who sells a generator with emission controls. Then tell me a better use for old gas.
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 Год назад
wribg
@jkn2k
@jkn2k Год назад
Looks stupid nowadays.... With respect
@mmark300
@mmark300 Год назад
How so? Is there a better way to dispose of my old gas?
@fladave99
@fladave99 Год назад
1000x the pollution with a ZERO POLLUTION CONTROL generator GENIUS. #SAVE THE EARTH DUMMY
@mmark300
@mmark300 Год назад
Yes, but this, I think, is the best thing to do with old gas. Did you come here just to insult? Did you watch any of the video?
@fladave99
@fladave99 Год назад
@@mmark300 You know NOTHING about the car you drive except that it is fast for 1/4 mile. So is a Saturn 5 rocket, so what.
@mmark300
@mmark300 Год назад
@@fladave99 So the answer is Yes, you did just come here to insult.
@sharonbraselton4302
@sharonbraselton4302 Год назад
wt9bg
@Cubano1986
@Cubano1986 Год назад
Wow so green 😂
@pinkiepie1656
@pinkiepie1656 9 месяцев назад
Nah, I think it's orange-ish
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