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How to Use the Easy Vap Oxalic Acid Vaporizer Gun to Treat for Varroa Mites in a Honey Bee Hive

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I have had tremendous success using Oxalic Acid Vapor to treat for Varroa mites in my hives. Here is one way to treat which I have found to be effective. It is efficient and does a good job. You can treat the bees quickly and so this is a good option if there are a lot of bees to treat. I hope you like the video and find it helpful.
Update: As of January 2021 Johno has retired and no longer makes this product. I purchased a new vaporizer that I really like. Check it out at: Lorobbees.com
Here's the link to a video I made after I received the vaporizer:
• Using the LOROB BEES ...
Enjoy!!!
#beekeeping #beekeeper #brucesbees #oav #oxalicvaporizer
You might also want to check out my video on using a Wand or Pan Type vaporizer to compare the 2 methods:
• How to Use a Wand or P...
Both are good products and would be used in different situations.
If you would like to watch a video from the creator of this product here is the link:
• OAV Bees

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@brucesbees 3 года назад

Johno has retired and so I ordered a new vaporizer that I really like from Lorobbees.com. Here is a link to the video. Check it out! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-W10etyAByc0.html

@RCSimRacin Год назад

Hes making them again. Just got mine yesterday!

@brucesbees Год назад

Yeah I have one. I’m thinking about doing a comparison video soon between Johno’s, Lorobbees, and Instavap. 3 different vaporizers at different price points. Might be a fun review to do.

@RCSimRacin Год назад

@@brucesbees yeah! I mean for the price.. can’t beat Johnos. Ease of use for sure is your new battery unit. That thing is a sweet! On Johnos I just drive my golf cart pretty close to the hives.. use a 30’ish extension cord and a power inverter. Super easy for me.

@brucesbees Год назад

@@RCSimRacin yes. I used one of his old units for a long time.

@Mrsdonimarie 4 года назад

We just received our JohnO's Easy Vap Pro and can hardly wait to use it. Thank you for making this video.

@brucesbees 4 года назад

You’re welcome! I have been pleased so far.

@brucesbees 4 года назад

Don’t forget to wear protective gear. I am a believer after having some issues a few months ago when making a video without gear.

@Mrsdonimarie 4 года назад

@@brucesbees Where do you purchase your OA powder?

@brucesbees 4 года назад

Look up Florida laboratories. Oxalic Acid. It is very affordable. I order mine from amazon.

@sverreslotfeldt7674 5 лет назад

Being short on time, I fast forwarded through your video, but thanks for posting this; exactly what I was looking for! What I'm trying to find is a way to order the Easy Vap. I just tried sending an email to an address I found on the BeeSource forum. Hopefully they'll get back to me. My hives' mite counts are way too high, and two of my friends swear by the Provap 110. However, at roughly $500, that's not an option for me right now. I'm glad another friend told me to search for alternatives on RU-vid, and your video came up high in the results. The blooper at the end made me chuckle, so I liked and subscribed. Thank you again!

@brucesbees 4 года назад

I hope you are able to order one. Let me know if you have any problems. I put the email link in the description.

@natserog 5 лет назад

Good solid unit ...Johno's is the best for OA>

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

Yes I love mine.

@Themachinewon 5 лет назад

Even better, check this out . ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d3GEMDybGTw.html

@user-fl1in2do4g 4 года назад

At the end, a kiss of gratitude )))

@brucesbees 4 года назад

I hear ya haha

@natserog 5 лет назад

great video! so easy to follow what you are doing....good teaching Bruce!

@lynnerousseau9676 2 года назад

Ohhh.. the 🤦🏻‍♀️😉🤪BLOOPER‼️‼️

@mrcshoneybees 5 лет назад

Where can I buy one of the Johno's easy vap? thanks for the great video.

@Themachinewon 5 лет назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d3GEMDybGTw.html Check this one out

@brucesbees 2 года назад

Johno no longer makes them. Now I use theLorob Bees vaporizer and love it. Here is the link if still interested lorobbees.com/collections/oxalic-acid-vaporizers?sca_ref=925819.Rw5v3swsBM

@jethrobodine4638 3 года назад

Bruce thanks for the video. very educational! I just received the easy vap from JohnO. cannot wait to try it out. I only have a few hives but I was tired of the wand method. seems you drilled a hole in the bottom box instead of the bottom board, I guess that works as well. I have an outlet in my F250 that can put out up to 400W, you think that will heat up the vaporizer or should I get the inverter? my hives are not around an electric source so would have to use a battery.

@brucesbees 3 года назад

Is Johno making them again? I thought he had shut it down? Yes I usually drill in the bottom board. Sometimes I did some different things when I was trying to figure it all out.

@jethrobodine4638 3 года назад

@@brucesbees I sent John an email and he still had some on hand, wouldn’t hurt anyone interested in one to contact him.

@brucesbees 3 года назад

Ok cool. Not a bad idea. Thanks for the info.

@followme8238 5 лет назад

Question: why is that cup/band heater so crusty looking? Is it decaying in some manner from the heat and chemical exposure?

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

If you are talking about the red cup I think maybe a little. I think probably the heat more than anything but really not sure. I have used them a lot. After I made this video Johnno sent me some different cups that he has upgraded to. These red cups still work but maybe the new ones will work even better without breaking down. Good question. Thanks for watching.

@natserog 5 лет назад

are you drilling a 1/4 inch hole for the tube to go into? and then plugging it with a 1/4 inch wood dowel?...how long does the dowel need to be? thanks

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

I am using a 1/4 hole. Haven’t been using a dowel. The bees will propolize the holes but I just stick a small screwdriver in the hole and wiggle it around to make sure it is clear. Works well for the most part.

@natserog 5 лет назад

@@brucesbees thanks for responding...i have to really watch out for holes that small hive beetle can go it--take care-

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

I hear ya. A dowel or stick would work well. Or maybe even a nail. Just have to figure out the right size.

@George-nx5lo 5 лет назад

@@brucesbees how long do you leave the entrances covered? I hear a golf tee works well for the hole

@janetkouma1 4 года назад

Absolutely love my easy vape. The PID controller got messed up somehow and I need to reset it, could you do a short video on how to fix this? Thank you !!

@brucesbees 4 года назад

I have never adjusted the controller but just found the directions from back when I ordered the unit. “If you need to change the temperature press AT key and one of the numerals will begin flashing. That numeral can be changed with the up or down key, pressing the AT key again will move to the next numeral. When all the numerals are where you want the temperature to be, press set key.” Hope this helps and thanks for watching!

@stevejackson5062 5 лет назад

On another video of yours I watched earlier I thought the right upper lip was swollen too.

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

It was lol. I got stung on the Johnno’s Easy Vap video and filmed the Queen Excluder video after that so my lip was swollen during that video as well. Good eye!

@Themachinewon 5 лет назад

That PID controller is all over the place, either its not tuned, or the thermal coupler has a huge air gap where he drilled. What is the cup material made of ? or base made of ?

@tprater65 5 лет назад

How many treatments can you get off of that battery? I just got one of Johno’s caps too

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

I have treated 45 or 50 hives with the battery and it was still going strong. It is a marine battery. I just recharge it and I am good to go.

@tprater65 5 лет назад

Perfect! I wasn’t sure if I was gonna have to drive the pickup down to the hives.

@janicecarey6007 5 лет назад

Obviously, you wouldn't do this if it killed the bees. However, how do you know how much oxalic acid to use? Sort of scared that I'd kill the queen.

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

I have a 1 gram scoop and the recommended amount is 1 gram per hive body. I usually use one scoop for the first box and then around 1/2 to 1 scoop per box for additional boxes. The bees seem to tolerate it well even if I overdo it a little sometimes. As a matter of fact the bees absolutely thrive. It only seems to take them a few minutes to resume business as usual when the treatment is complete. Have never noticed any real loss of bees or the queen when using either this method or the wand method. OAV seems safe for the bees but is deadly to mites. I have nothing but good things to say about this method. It is a good idea to wear protective gear though. I don’t always do it but try to stay upwind or stand a distance away when using OAV Vapor. I do have a mask and goggles that I can use if I feel like I am going to get more exposure. The mask should be rated for Organic Acid Vapors.

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

The one gram scoop I use is about equal to 3/4 of a teaspoon if measured using water. I tested it the other day.

@PhillipHall01 5 лет назад

Good system. JohnO has a winner! I noticed your wood fence so I am assuming you live in a neighborhood? If so, does your neighbors complain about your bees? 🐝

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

No they don’t complain for the most part. I did have some neighbors complain about bees around their pool last summer so I set up some water sources. The bees love them but hopefully they will stay away from the pools. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LFgbgmgF35Y.html Otherwise the neighbors who know about them have no issues that I know of. Most of my bees are in other locations but my neighborhood is a great spot. The bees seem to do well here. I call it my “Bee Lab” because I try a lot of new things here. It is easier to experiment and try different things when they are close by. 🙂

@PhillipHall01 5 лет назад

I had not thought of the pool and water as being a potential problem in a suburban beekeeping situation. I hope that the water set-up that you have installed does the trick. I may come back later in the summer and ask how this is working out if you don't mind? Thanks, Phillip

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

The bees for some reason can be attracted to pool water. I put these watering stations out last summer and the neighbors did not mention it again so I hope they worked. I like you am curious to see if there are any issues this year.

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

...and you are absolutely free to ask me any questions you want. I will do my best to answer them

@PhillipHall01 5 лет назад

Thanks Bruce, or would you prefer Rob?

@beebob1279 5 лет назад

Have you done any sticky boards to determine any type of mite drop?

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

I have not. Would probably be a good idea. I have just trusted the results of others and also know that my bees have generally done better since I have treated using Oxalic Acid. Should probably do the sticky board sometime but just never have.

@brucehotaling8569 5 лет назад

I just ordered a provap110 because I could not find this one

@Themachinewon 5 лет назад

Only $225, plus shipping,,, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d3GEMDybGTw.html

@sverreslotfeldt7674 5 лет назад

The one at $225 is a different product. Might be just as good or better, I'm just saying. The Easy Vap is $150. I also had trouble finding out how to order. Then I found the guy's email address on the BeeSource forum. www.beesource.com/forums/showthread.php?349751-Johno-s-Easy-Vap-Vaporizer Good luck to you!

@seadmujakic2591 Год назад

Gde kupit sublimator oxalne kis

@ericbussert8170 4 года назад

I just got one of Johno's vaps in the mail. I am planning on using with a older honda ex650 generator. Does anyone think that would be an issue if I use a surge protection?

@brucesbees 4 года назад

No. That should work fine I would imagine. I just use a marine battery.

@henrybess2903 3 года назад

How many hives can you do with the battery?

@brucesbees 3 года назад

I think it will work for around 50+ hives but if I need more I will just crank up my truck and use it’s battery hooked up to the inverter.

@Lsmith-ly2cm 2 года назад

Bruce how well did that vaporizer last for you ? Is it still working in 2022?

@brucesbees 2 года назад

It lasted for awhile but I am now using the Lorob Bees vaporizer.

@brucesbees 2 года назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ps-Yr_JtcJI.html

@incubatork 5 лет назад

The Provap to my mind is one of the biggest ripoffs in beekeeping, sourcing most of the parts using reasonable quality is less than $150, on the cheap less than $75, How can they justify the price they charge? I have the basic one, 12v, $20 from aliexpress but waiting for parts to make the Provap copy. Having both a lathe and milling machine i can make it even cheaper than posted above.

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

Yes I was thinking about ordering the Provap but I am glad I found out about Johnno. Good product and way cheaper. I think I paid $165 including shipping. It was worth it to me. Even if it breaks I can order another one or two for the total price of the provap. Have been pleased so far. Thanks!

@George-nx5lo 5 лет назад

even bigger ripoff is the thermal treatments

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

It does seem like they are crazy expensive.

@beebob1279 5 лет назад

The same reason why I'm looking around myself. I figure for 165 I should be able to get enough treatments beat the wands' lifespan. I've seen some as low as 45 but am skeptical about the cheap stuff. And 495 for the pro gap is ridiculous. Most of us are hobby beekeepers and that price is just too much. I'm searching for something that can do the same thing for a lower price.

@incubatork 5 лет назад

@@beebob1279 For hobby use and a dozen or so hives you can use the simple 12v wand type, i have one and got it foe 19€ on aliexpress, it takes about 3 minutes per hive with a good battery, i use an old tractor battery that does not hold a charge fore more than a month and just charge it before use. I now have almost everything to make a provap copy, i think on jc's bees there are easy follow videos to make one. having a small lathe and milling machine it should not take long.

@followme8238 5 лет назад

Is the temperature control unit adjustable - does it come with instructions to program the temp? I think 450 is a little too hot

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

Yes it is adjustable. I haven’t adjusted it though. After I made the video Johnno told me when it reached 400 degrees I should remove the device and move on to the next one. I usually just leave it in a little longer to make sure all the OA has vaporized but may remove at 400 in the future. Great comments and questions. Thanks!

@Themachinewon 5 лет назад

He should use a PID controller that has a better temp controller , like the one I used, The temp is at 230C which is 446F tops,, check it out . ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d3GEMDybGTw.html

@cecildean3648 3 года назад

Now that it has been over a year how do you like the East Vap?

@brucesbees 3 года назад

Works great! If treating with OAV it is definitely an affordable option and much quicker than the wand.

@cecildean3648 3 года назад

Thanks.

@brucesbees 3 года назад

It is the best set up for OAV if you need to pick up speed. The standard tule from Bud Willis does a great job if you don’t have many hives.

@johnpatterson788 5 лет назад

I am unable to find any link, other than beesourse thread, on how to purchase this vap. could you get me the link or contact info?

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

Email Johnno at john_olivier@msn.com

@natserog 5 лет назад

can you plug unit in to AC if you have it ...... right?

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

Yes. Just a normal plug.

@scottdavis3067 4 года назад

Can you leave syrup in hive when treating

@brucesbees 4 года назад

As far as I know.

@natserog 5 лет назад

how long do you leave towel on after treatment?

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

Not long. I usually treat 8 or 12 hives and then move the towels as needed for more hives. I am getting efficient enough now that it is tough to keep up. The vaporizer works so fast that it is hard to move towels and fill cups fast enough. I don’t know if there is any set amount of time but my towels usually stay in the hives anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes. This method fills the hive so fast that there is no doubt in my mind that it reaches every corner of the box.

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

I need to do another video now that I am more efficient. but truth is that I don’t do everything exactly “by the book” with regards to protective equipment. It is difficult to wear a mask and goggles under a bee veil, especially when it is hot and humid. I usually just try to stay upwind and avoid breathing the fumes. Probably not the best idea though I have had no issues with it.

@linr2870 5 лет назад

Most literature says about 10 mins.

@Sylwester_Krolak 4 года назад

The temp is to high, out of sublimation range so you decarboxylase oxalic acid and formic acid, carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide are made in this way. What this means? This treatment is so less effective against varroa in comparison to proper sublimation. Reduce the temp into sublimation range!

@brucesbees 4 года назад

Are you thinking in Celsius or Farenheit temps?

@traveler3626 5 лет назад

What size inverter do you use ?

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

I believe this one is a 750 Watt. I believe Johnno told me I need 500 or more. It works great for what I need it to do. I think they cost in the neighborhood of $40 +/- at Harbor Freight.

@traveler3626 5 лет назад

@@brucesbees thanks.

@salambeekeeper9464 4 года назад

hi, where did you get it? i used the email but i didnt get answer, is it still the same?

@brucesbees 4 года назад

Try is again and let me know if you have any problems.

@brucesbees 4 года назад

The address in the description has worked for me. May have to type it in separately though. Not sure why you have had problems.

@ColesFarmNC 4 года назад

What mask do you use?

@brucesbees 4 года назад

RZ Mask

@irvincereynolds6540 5 лет назад

How many hives are you able to do with battery and inverter?

@brucesbees 5 лет назад

I have done 40 or 50 with no trouble. Not sure how many I can actually do. With the Easy Val it is so fast that you can get a lot of hives done. I have run my battery down with the wand but have never reached the limit with the Easy Vap so I am really not sure.

@irvincereynolds6540 5 лет назад

Thanks a lot for the reply