How to Use the Just Flight Piper Arrow Autopilot in Microsoft Flight Simulator 

Definitely - thank you!

I've enjoyed it over the last week. I have 15 hours on mine. I am excited for the Turbo Arrow IV to be coming out soon. The Turbo Arrow IV likes to hug the runway after rotation. Hopefully they can duplicate that and it won't spring off the runway. Either way, the job Just Flight has done in the Arrow III is pretty amazing compared to what we have seen from add-on aircraft so far.

I would like that but more importantly, so would anyone trying to figure out the fancy Autocontrol IIIB autopilot. You should suggest it to them.

You are very welcome. My latest videos are more reality based but MSFS is used at a visual aid.

@@thecorporatepilotdad I should have realized this was an older video, I've owned these since they were released and some of my favorites! But I've never flown the real thing. Had lessons 30 years ago in a V tailed bonanza

On the iPad. To bring the iPad up click the silver I-com switch on the top right side of the panel. (The switch may be labeled something similar as I’m going off memory). In the middle of the iPad there is a section for the GPS. Click that button on the IPad to scroll through the different avionics setups. That’s how it works on PC.

@@thecorporatepilotdad Thanks I didn't even notice that.

I’ve seen this before. Flight model has to be set to modern. Also, turn the AP off, try switching to a different mode like heading, then put it back in NAV or Omni. I don’t have it in front of me so I’m going off memory. If that doesn’t work try contacting JustFlight. This same thing has happened to me and I’ve always been able to get it to work. Also try switching from GPS to VOR and back on to GPS on the GPS itself. Hope that helps.

@@thecorporatepilotdad thanks a lot for your feedback, really appreciated. Gonna try some of that later today! I've tried some of those but when i succeed, it's more of a random thing..

On the tablet on the right (it appears and disappears with the icom switch in front of the right seat) there is a button on the main screen for HSI or DG.

@@thecorporatepilotdad thanks so much!

@@thecorporatepilotdad ok, I must be missing something or I have the wrong version. I have the JustFlight Piper Arrow iii, not the turbo. When I click the I-Comm nothing happens but just a click. So, I'm lost here

I could have gone deeper but I don't think it was detailed to that level. There is a 30 page manual for this autopilot on the internet. It gets down to some in depth information such as OMNI will correct for x-wind correction up to 15 degrees from the course on the CDI but VOR doesn't have a limit (at least not that I found). I left that out of the video on purpose.

That shouldn't be a problem.

Here you go. I have this set to unlisted. It was done very fast so I may not make it public. Either way, here you go. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mAkCPKAcRiU.html

@@thecorporatepilotdad thank you very much for this!!!! 🙏🏻

@@user-zc9zt2vl5s You are welcome.

Not all autopilots in GA airplanes have altitude hold. The developer did add altitude hold after this video. Above the dial to select heading, VOR, LOC, etc. there is a click spot over the word Piper. Clicking Piper toggles altitude hold.

@@thecorporatepilotdad Thank you sir

I figured covering the AP would be a welcomed video. I remember the first time I flew an Arrow with this AP and how excited I was just to have an AP in the airplane.

Compared to not having any AP, this is handy to have. It has to get tiring holding the yoke all day long and flying too. :)

@@RobertHopkinsArt When I flew small GA airplanes no AP wasn't too bad because I never had it so I didn't know what I was missing.

Same thing is happening with mine, currently on SU14. Didn't used to be an issue on the Just Flight Arrows. I think they need to update their products.

I get 125 or so and in cruise I'll get 135-140 knots knots TAS. Are you leaning the mixture?

Oh there it is, on the coupler! Thanks!!!

I use the scroll wheel on the mouse to go one degree at a time. If I hold left shift it will go 2degrees at a time. If I spin the mouse wheel repeatedly it will move even faster at maybe 20-30 degrees at a time.

@@thecorporatepilotdad How fast do you spin it for only 1 degree? Every spin it goes 10 degrees for me 🤷‍♂️ I have my instrument, but when I was still an Instrument student, that was the biggest annoyance for me 😂 (I did my training without GPS or DME (/U) so I flew the 6 pack 172 without using the GPS to practice)

@@colinboone9920 I did my IFR training on steam gauges and GPS free also. I spin it pretty fast. I've never had it go 10 degrees at once. I was thinking about it after my last message. Maybe there is a setting somewhere making it go by 10? Does it still go by 10 if you use the scroll wheel or the left mouse button?

@@thecorporatepilotdad I know in the CJ4 it works properly, but all GA aircraft only nice in 10 degrees for me

@@colinboone9920 Are you using a Honeycomb product? I just checked the forums and that is one of the devices that causes it to move by 10 degrees. forums.flightsimulator.com/t/c172-heading-bug-10-degree-increments-only/183892/25

Not sure why that is happening and I haven’t flown the Arrow in a while. It is possible something happened after an update to cause the issue. Check for updates on Just Flight’s website. If the problem still happens send them an email.

I've heard of this happening but I have not experienced it. Does the 430 do it too?

@@thecorporatepilotdad Yes, same with the 430.

@@mrmisterno1 I wish I knew to help you out but I don't have a solution. Have you checked the flightsim forums?

@@thecorporatepilotdad I might try to delete the GNS mod and see if that helps. Didn't find anything in the forums.

@@mrmisterno1 if you can move it to a different folder that might help to isolate the problem vs deleting it. I take it that mod just gets dropped in the community folder.

I REALLY WANT THE TURBO version. I think they are giving a 66% discount on the Turbo versions if you buy the Arrow III.... I think.

@@thecorporatepilotdad yup 66%

@@Threefiddyz Thought so. Thanks for confirming that!

I did see this once and it rolled hard to the right. I don't remember what I did to fix it. Try resetting the flight and make sure roll mode isn't selected.

I have exactly the same issue when engaging the autopilot on every flight

@@joshmerriman115 I saw something in a forum on this. I hope I am remembering it correctly but I believe this has happened when people select HDG on the console but not the AP ON rocker switch. Try it from left to rigth.. AP ON -> HDG ON -> select Mode. You may be doing that already but just wanted to check.

@@thecorporatepilotdad thank you, I will give it a go in that flow

If the flight plan is in the GPS make sure the CDI button is pressed and GPS is displayed above that button. Then select Omni or VOR mode in the Arrow.

I actually found that out this morning and you beat me to the message. Glad it is working for you! Thank you for posting it.

Buenas!, a mi me pasaba lo mismo con otros aviones y se solucionó cambiando el modelo de vuelo, si.

Thank you. It is a lousy autopilot but I'm all about authenticity so I'm glad they used this one with the Arrow.

@@thecorporatepilotdad oh same here, its a very well done model; especially in comparison to the Crapenado. I Learned to fly in a Piper but that was about 15 years ago. Honestly came here wondering why my Loc mode was not working but turns out I am not the only one with the issue.

@@TacticalSandals Sometimes I wonder if they did that on purpose to duplicate how bad that AP really is. I doubt it, but that would be funny. I never had much luck with reliability with that AP.

You can. You have to select FLPN then highlight the fix you want the point to go before and then hit the select knob to bring up the cursor. If you want a good and free GPS replacement you can get the Garmin GTN 750. Be sure to read the readme file because there is a folder for each aircraft type that has to be placed in the Community Folder. pms50.com/msfs/?

I honestly do not know what year of Arrow the Just Flight Arrow is based on, but it is the 200 HP version. To my knowledge, almost all Arrows are the same except for some early Arrow I aircraft that only had 180 HP engines.

@@thecorporatepilotdad thx, I fly one with a push-in throttle in my flight school, which is mainly the only difference.

Did you turn the AP on right before it made the left turn?

@@thecorporatepilotdad Negative

Do any other airplanes do it? Are the controls deflected to the left on the ground? I'm not sure how to fix it but I'll let you know if I hear anything.

@@thecorporatepilotdad No, only the Piper PA28, the seminole and others are perfect, I do not know what happend

@@pacorodriguezfraile Did you report it to JustFlight?

Is GPS mode selected on the GPS? I flew the Arrow a few days ago in MSFS and it worked well.

@@thecorporatepilotdad Yeah I've been testing the Turbo Arrow IV for the past 2 hours and It turns out that ONLY HDG Mode works.... none of the others is working. No clue why. It used to work fine before

@@jobravo1205 anytime there is a sim update some components can stop working. Check to see if there is an updated version of the Arrow on JFs website. That could be the culprit.

@@thecorporatepilotdad It could be.... I checked but there isn't yet.... maybe they are working on it. I confirmed that all PA28 versions have this problem at least for me.... only HDG Mode works for the Autopilot

Sorry I keep spamming you here, but for whatever reason the autopilot works as normal ONLY when the PMS GTN is selected from the tablet

Do you mean frame rates? I didn't notice a difference between the Arrow or stock aircraft.

thecorporatepilotdad yes sorry the fps. It’s one of the most important things to use as a benchmark. Many developers destroy aircraft when they build it too dense where frames become and issue rendering the addon unflyable

@@m783w no problems for me. Not to say some might have slower rates but I haven't heard of that being a problem so far.

I lost about 10 frames normally get about 40-70 frames with stock steam gauge planes. 10 less with this bird! Running in 2k everything ultra. Windows 10 nvidia 2080ti with intel i7 6700

@@lee4318 I don't check FPS when I play but there wasn't a noticeable drop on my computer. But this bird is worth a 10 fps drop in my opinion.

On takeoff? In the air? I have not had that problem. Did you contact Just Flight?

@@thecorporatepilotdad on the ground with flaps at first notch the plane will not move. In the air first notch will cause the plane to do flips. Interestingly I have no problems with 2nd and 3rd not flaps

@@alexeybocharnikov6736 If I hear of anything to fix it I'll let you know.

@@alexeybocharnikov6736 I saw a video in the forums of the flipping Arrow with the first notch of flaps. I thought someone said there was a fix for it (as in an updated file).

@@thecorporatepilotdad thank you! I patched it just now and it’s fine!

I think that is called circle over the airport doing a climbing turn and then heading north through the valley.

@@thecorporatepilotdad yep and you better be light and it is cold outside 😁🛫

Haha. Radio coupler aka "round thingy" under the yoke.