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This Old House landscape contractor Roger Cook explains masonry materials and then shows how to pour a concrete slab. (See below for a shopping list, tools, and steps.)
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Roger teaches the differences between different masonry materials. Portland cement is added to many other mixes. Concrete is a mix of sand, stone, and Portland cement. A mortar mix is made of Portland cement, sand, and lime, and is used for bricks and stones above ground. Below ground, he uses a cement mix of Portland cement and sand.
Roger showed how to mix concrete by combining 3-parts sand, 2-parts stone (sometimes called aggregate), and 1-part Portland cement in a wheelbarrow. A power mixer can be rented.
Once the concrete is added to a form, Roger uses a trowel to smooth off the top, or he uses a push broom to add a slip resistant finish. He then uses an edger to round off the edge of the concrete, and then uses a groover to create a controlled joint for the concrete to crack.
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@itchyego
@itchyego 7 лет назад
Helps to mention for the beginner that "Grade" means simply the ground or the ground level, including its slope.
@erikjames3523
@erikjames3523 5 лет назад
Ken Johnston I’m trying to work here and I was like, “grade”? How do I google that🤷🏾‍♂️thanx
@zaappp1588
@zaappp1588 6 лет назад
I like watching these guys at half speed. It's like watching a couple drunks trying to explain stuff to each other. Very entertaining if you have the time.
@makmar4484
@makmar4484 6 лет назад
Zaappp !!! I'm kinda hoping for his sake that this is a cringe show hahalololo
@johnnorman3831
@johnnorman3831 5 лет назад
Nice, got a good chuckle out of that, " there's like million baaaaaggggs!
@fatih2313
@fatih2313 5 лет назад
lmao you made my day! Lost my shit when he said: "Chhaaalllaannnggge mmee heerrreee Rooogeeeeerr?"
@killectskoins1256
@killectskoins1256 5 лет назад
That was very entertaining to watch at half speed. 02:55 for the "Chhaaalllaannnggge mmee heerrreee Rooogeeeeerr?" part (credit Fatih)
@JabberWacky970
@JabberWacky970 5 лет назад
Lmfao I'm dying. I did this once I read that
@danbytp
@danbytp 5 лет назад
Finally! Someone who explains it for us beginners so we can understand it,!!!
@korypankey8359
@korypankey8359 6 лет назад
I wish this guy was my teacher for everything. Concise, important and easy to digest information, no bs.
@Pallidus_Rider
@Pallidus_Rider 3 года назад
Tip: coat wood form with used motor oil for easy separation. 👍
@hawktuft772
@hawktuft772 6 лет назад
I love reading the comments from all these self proclaimed experts. The guy is a professional. Sorry he doesn't do your way
@nicholascasatelli6949
@nicholascasatelli6949 5 лет назад
Well when someone isn't doing it properly, or with the right tools, people should know. I guess I should just do it wrong and like a jack ass then? I don't think so.
@benjimcdowell1627
@benjimcdowell1627 5 лет назад
@@nicholascasatelli6949 sorry but hawk is right. We all have our opinions and ways just cause it's not the same style doesn't make it wrong. And if these videos makes anyone not agree or something just don't watch them. Simple
@johnwquick3616
@johnwquick3616 4 года назад
Be a sheep. You gotta be a Democrat. Baaa
@heathdetweilerRealtor
@heathdetweilerRealtor 3 года назад
Here for a how-to, but arm chair QBing. Lol
@guichuantang9041
@guichuantang9041 5 лет назад
Excellent video on the difference and uses of concrete, cement and mortar which I was confused with!!
@samnoble1583
@samnoble1583 5 лет назад
Best concrete demo I've ever seen!
@farhad.parsan
@farhad.parsan 2 года назад
very informative video, thanks a lot! I watched many videos on RU-vid about pouring concrete and none were as simple and at the same time comprehensive as this one.
@crewmagnum1
@crewmagnum1 5 лет назад
I prefer mixing the sand and Portland thoroughly before adding the aggregate. It's a lot easier to get an even mix.
@1crida1
@1crida1 2 месяца назад
I watched another video by these guys and they did exactly that. I think his helper just added the aggregate in too soon lol
@Mchurchwell
@Mchurchwell 8 лет назад
This is yalls best video yet. Very detailed for beginners.
@sleahcim4723
@sleahcim4723 5 лет назад
The hard part to me would be the screening. When to do it. When to follow up with more screening. When to trowel. Thanks for leaving that out. I have not found a video yet to shoot it to me straight. Following a recipe is not an issue. I did a small pad with premix from home depot and the finish was too rough. It looked horrible.
@rsamaran
@rsamaran 2 года назад
3 parts sand 2 parts aggregate 1 part Portland cement Mix sand and cement together first before adding aggregate.
@curiosity2314
@curiosity2314 8 лет назад
Great walk through...
@dvljet
@dvljet 8 лет назад
Concrete block aka cinderblock below grade you need to do a three step water proofing if you don't want leaks . You need to prime it then put your first coat of water proofing then you apply a mesh cloth then another coat of water proofing and then a dimple plastic . If you buy cinder blocks from a brick and block supply place they will have block ciment in bags just add water
@miguelsalami
@miguelsalami 5 лет назад
Hey that looks like a lot a Hod woik ya know ya gotta look out for those Shop Edges❗
@LucidDreamer54321
@LucidDreamer54321 3 года назад
They showed a concrete example of how to mix concrete.
@rejahmuhyi1592
@rejahmuhyi1592 Год назад
Thanks for explaining the different kinds of cement .
@01zakman
@01zakman 7 лет назад
It's 3am and I have no clue how I got here
@Engineer9736
@Engineer9736 7 лет назад
Peppa Pug So what
@lars808
@lars808 6 лет назад
Same and I have to get up at 5:40 AM today
@Slowhand871
@Slowhand871 6 лет назад
Peppa Pug best comment ever
@Laffy1345
@Laffy1345 6 лет назад
Peppa Pug you have paws, how the hell you use a computer!?😂😂😂😂😂
@DJSpinMasterX
@DJSpinMasterX 5 лет назад
LMAO!!! Been there.....
@billyphantha
@billyphantha 6 лет назад
super useful video, more like this please!
@glarochify
@glarochify 7 лет назад
Wow, thank you gentlemen, for putting in the work for this very informative video.
@jonathanluckhun6887
@jonathanluckhun6887 8 лет назад
as someone used to being around cement, all this flying cement dust in the video made me want to sneeze and eyes feel dry
@3rdCultureAussie
@3rdCultureAussie 7 лет назад
Jonathan Luckhun Don't forget the cement in your lungs
@raulmejiascandanedo7192
@raulmejiascandanedo7192 6 лет назад
Silica dust😷
@joebailey4686
@joebailey4686 6 лет назад
I instinctively squinted my eyes when I saw the dust lol
@Moco925
@Moco925 6 лет назад
Funny I squinted and held my breath 😂😂
@leeknivek
@leeknivek 6 лет назад
This is a $2000 OSHA violation payable by each offender and an additional $10,000 from their employers.
@kwasiwilliams5014
@kwasiwilliams5014 8 лет назад
Cool to learn to make a self mix!
@dachhisudarshan3206
@dachhisudarshan3206 4 года назад
Love the watch Roger is wearing.... Classic all time best digital basic model.... CASIO F91 W i guess...
@AK-ru3sg
@AK-ru3sg 4 года назад
Very simplistically explained, thanks. Assume it's for school children and will explain it very well to them. Thanks for posting.
@doc-holiday
@doc-holiday 4 года назад
I done concrete before on many occasions and used a shovel to blend it all the together but when i discovered the hoe i found this to be the very best to mix it up with little effort and easier to work with. i never looked back. The hoe is much more fun when doing these sort of small jobs.
@bbbrickman7353
@bbbrickman7353 5 лет назад
Hi guys since you're using a gauged mix, to keep its tactile strength it should be; one pint of water for each pound of cement and good luck with that one, the mix would be so stiff it would break your arms when you try to travel it LOL, no offence intended, but what is referred to as 20 - two plenty in the UK would probably be your best bet mix for a home made concrete mix which would consist of 4 shovels or concreting gravel ( gravel and Sand premixed) you could use a trowel a spade or any other implement or a gloved hand come to that as long as it's not a gauged measuring implement, and one part of cement and enough water to bring it to a creamy consistency. Ps I have worked in the wet trade for over 40 years, but as for mixing it by the book, and as I was taught as an apprentice, many moons ago you are spot on,
@rudyardkipling7181
@rudyardkipling7181 7 лет назад
It's interesting to hear, after all these years, it still referred to as PORTLAND cement, as if there were really any other in this context.
@awmh1990
@awmh1990 5 лет назад
Best video I found on explaining how the terminology, the mixing, and the setting. liked and subscribed. Thank you
@matthewmansour5125
@matthewmansour5125 2 года назад
Not sure how old this video is, but these days, wear a mask when using cement. It’s not great for your lungs. Great video. I’ve worked in a trade for 20 years but still get so much out of TOH vids.
@gnome2024
@gnome2024 8 лет назад
one paaht cement
@TheWanderingChemist
@TheWanderingChemist 8 лет назад
To a German native speaker, their dialect sounds like that of Bernie Sanders... :D
@rudyardkipling7181
@rudyardkipling7181 7 лет назад
Who?
@Geekybros111
@Geekybros111 7 лет назад
Rudyard Kipling roger
@edman2740
@edman2740 7 лет назад
2:20 to jiggle
@raegenjones4346
@raegenjones4346 7 лет назад
John Dough
@nixcoolfix
@nixcoolfix 6 лет назад
Exactly what I was looking for. Great video! Thanks guys!
@smartchip
@smartchip 6 лет назад
Thanks for the video, helps me save a buck to spend on the basics,
@telosfd
@telosfd 6 лет назад
Mix the mixture down on the ground with the spades and then place it on the mold.
@ChrisMichael
@ChrisMichael 6 лет назад
Was really hoping you'd cover drying and curing, too.
@nc3826
@nc3826 6 лет назад
They only touch on the basics and got few points wrong or they were misleading, The incorrectly places the metal to reinforcement in the middle since it will never be tension there it almost useless in that location. And control joints almost never do what they're supposed too. So use an expansion joint and find postings on all the missed steps. IE Concrete float - Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete_float
@danielgraytube
@danielgraytube 6 лет назад
Extremely informative. Thank you.
@jamesorourke1661
@jamesorourke1661 4 года назад
I like what they had to share it was very good Thanks
@shareekali445
@shareekali445 5 лет назад
Wow! Great job and DIY motivation for both men and women!
@stormbytes
@stormbytes 6 лет назад
Amazing Amazing Amazing VIDEO! !! THANK YOU Best one on youtube so far!!! Learned so much
@andrewdavies1312
@andrewdavies1312 5 лет назад
Drag the brush across..it'll give the waaaak way some texture
@diamond6256
@diamond6256 4 месяца назад
May I ask a question?????? When using QUIKCRETE LIQUID CONCRETE COLOR on pavers (15x15) in August, it was dry to the touch so I added waterbased sealer, LOOKED FANTASTIC. 6 months later IT WON'T DRY. How can I fix this? It was dry so I added the sealer and the sealer failed and pealed. The color is not dry underneath.
@jamescrowley470
@jamescrowley470 8 лет назад
Since TOH is an information show it's worth noting that the word is "masonry", not 'mason•ar•ry'
@michaelmcgee2026
@michaelmcgee2026 6 лет назад
James Crowley lol i thought did he say masonary?
@MatchBookNotes
@MatchBookNotes 5 лет назад
Thats a north eastern american accent. Bawwwston.
@saloppedisano9745
@saloppedisano9745 4 года назад
I’m pretty sure block mortar has lime as well.
@hattman2010
@hattman2010 4 года назад
Yeah that was completely wrong.
@TheTomBevis
@TheTomBevis 6 лет назад
This demo is technically accurate, but I pity the DIYer that tries to do a sidewalk without more information. Working with concrete is not as easy as it looks.
@Litto1
@Litto1 5 лет назад
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@coyotesniper72
@coyotesniper72 5 лет назад
Correct. You frame a wall incorrectly ehh no big deal. You bite off more than you can chew with concrete and you’ll have a bad day. Just a thought from a 25 year cement mason.
@EoRdE6
@EoRdE6 5 лет назад
I see this as probably good for someone repairing a single damaged sidewalk section...
@davidjacobs8558
@davidjacobs8558 5 лет назад
I find smoothing the surface of quickrete is very difficult compare to using your own mix, because quickrete use small jagged gravel, which gets caught on the trowel, it's just the wrong size and shaped gravel. bigger rounder river gravel would be much easier to work with.
@mar504
@mar504 5 лет назад
Easier to work with but it will also mean the finished product won't have near the same strength and will begin to crack much sooner.
@hallowedbethygame2840
@hallowedbethygame2840 Год назад
Cement can’t really adhere to smooth stones, jagged coarse aggregate is what you want. The coarse aggregate in the bag mixes is too small though, agreed. Adding a shovel or so of Portland cement per bag will help you get a better finish
@gazisher2372
@gazisher2372 Год назад
I love the Boston accent!
@bradleymarcum6951
@bradleymarcum6951 4 года назад
Roger stood up and about clocked this dude. Look at the fist
@I_SuperHiro_I
@I_SuperHiro_I Год назад
I do like Poatlind Cemyint.
@gregoryshorts700
@gregoryshorts700 6 лет назад
Brings back great memories of working with Phillips Construction. Did more of my fair share of side walk work. Lol . However you did forget to mention , to make sure that no tree roots are near or no ammount of skilled work one does to prevent cracking . Tree is going to crack up concrete every time
@TheRealNosferatu
@TheRealNosferatu 4 года назад
Great vid but if you do this yourself you should absolutely wear a particulate mask when mixing. The dust is terrible for your lungs, especially if youre working with poor ventilation like they are in the shop
@ChiefMonkeyHerder
@ChiefMonkeyHerder 8 лет назад
Thanks - great episode!
@anon31415
@anon31415 6 лет назад
That was a GREAT video.
@jetnick3576
@jetnick3576 6 лет назад
I learned a lot. Thank you.
@lou-nc4rc
@lou-nc4rc 2 года назад
If your existing concrete patio has a rebar stain which developed over the years, can you resurface it to cover the stain?
@EdwardJamesBickels
@EdwardJamesBickels 5 лет назад
Take a shot every time he says "Portland Cement"
@mikefm4
@mikefm4 5 лет назад
Edward James Bickels 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤪
@luistoribio2700
@luistoribio2700 4 года назад
I like it., because im a rooky. Thanks for teaching me.
@01aharley
@01aharley 5 лет назад
It looks good from my house
@dilippatel3268
@dilippatel3268 5 лет назад
great info
@BritishBoy1971
@BritishBoy1971 5 лет назад
I mix mine in the Irish tumble dryer. Doing it manually in a wheelbarrow is too much like hard work!
@juliocanales
@juliocanales 8 лет назад
great video
@firdaussukri3519
@firdaussukri3519 8 лет назад
thanks for the information sir...thanks from malaysia
@nc3826
@nc3826 6 лет назад
KL was fun
@stevebruce8248
@stevebruce8248 6 лет назад
Very helpful.
@theclockmax
@theclockmax 8 лет назад
If you used mortar with blocks that will be in contact with the ground, in which he said not to use lime. Is there a way to reinforce it so in the future it will hold up instead of breaking down? I used lime when he instructed not to.
@gregpaul6480
@gregpaul6480 4 года назад
You should invest a segment on Roman concrete?
@HsingSun
@HsingSun 2 года назад
Thank you for the video. I want to build a 8'x8' small shed, what kind of gravels (below concrete) should I use for concrete mix?
@benjaminjohnson824
@benjaminjohnson824 5 лет назад
What # of stone is recommended for the sidewalk cement?
@EppingForest304
@EppingForest304 8 лет назад
Very helpful
@BayardoJSaenz
@BayardoJSaenz 5 лет назад
Hello guys, I have a question about the 3/4 gravel that you us before the concrete what is for and what hapen if you for example just pour the concrete over a plastic in the ground? Thanks.
@christophercrawford3924
@christophercrawford3924 5 лет назад
You guys used the right brand Quikrete America's #1 brand! Made by Americans for Americans! Chris in Albuquerque
@asifsba1
@asifsba1 5 лет назад
I wanted to wear a mask while watching this video.
@oldtwinsna8347
@oldtwinsna8347 3 года назад
covid prediction, wtf ?
@jonathanclark6489
@jonathanclark6489 6 лет назад
good stuff!
@curlykmk47
@curlykmk47 5 лет назад
Can anyone give me advice on what to do if I am pouring a step on a completed slab? Would I still need some kind of material in the bottom (like they use the aggregate), or just start with concrete?
@MikeTheMaker1
@MikeTheMaker1 6 лет назад
Some great info
@oskarbjornstad877
@oskarbjornstad877 5 лет назад
Sand is technically an aggregate not just stones
@johnsmith-wc8gs
@johnsmith-wc8gs 7 лет назад
this is enough to make any DIY'r call for some help
@PaulIstoan
@PaulIstoan 8 лет назад
7:20 I saw construction workers placing some wood separators after pouring the concrete, for large parts in order to not crack.
@davebainard8897
@davebainard8897 8 лет назад
That is just to control the crack. Don't let anybody fool you but in any large slab even with rebar, concrete will always crack.
@ericdeyoung8416
@ericdeyoung8416 7 лет назад
Paul Iştoan wood expansion joints are not near as common as saw cuts or tooled joints to control cracking in the Slab. but there are always 2 guarantees with concrete, it will get hard and it will crack
@jej3451
@jej3451 7 лет назад
I have rotten wood in my expansion joints. If I pull that out, what can I replace it with?
@davebainard8897
@davebainard8897 7 лет назад
Get some aerosol spray foam and fill the gaps. It will reduce tripping hazard and stop dirt and weed seeds from getting in there.
@jej3451
@jej3451 7 лет назад
Will it stand up to the sun and rain?
@juligrlee556
@juligrlee556 6 лет назад
What do you do with old concrete that is severely cracked or old concrete blocks that have been left over from prior projects? In other words, how do you recycle concrete? I would love to have it crushed up to use as gravel but where I live there likely isn't a nearby crusher.
@commentguy4711
@commentguy4711 6 лет назад
Just bash it unmercifully with a small sledge hammer and use it for fill. Use of a jack hammer for larger pieces. You can even use a diamond blade to score large pieces before breaking it up.
@jewermank8536
@jewermank8536 6 лет назад
This video is way better @.5x speed
@syniister7055
@syniister7055 Год назад
that concrete was way too wet to broom, the steel float brings the cream up to the edge and as it sets makes it easier for the broom. (the perfect broom for concrete in my opinion is 50%nylon and 50%horsehair.) i understand for videosake they would show you the process, but there is timing for the concrete to setup and for things to be at the right readiness before moving onto the next step.
@Mchurchwell
@Mchurchwell 8 лет назад
When purchasing the sand, rock and Portland cements to mix yourself, how do you calculate how much you need?
@bubbah671
@bubbah671 8 лет назад
The gives a number of square footage. X by 5 is my guess 2 sand 2 Rock of equal portions
@cloudchaser966
@cloudchaser966 9 месяцев назад
7:34 You can't help a walkway from cracking?? I'd say in that case you either made it too thin or you didn't use enough steel reinforcement, after all!
@Mattstafford2009
@Mattstafford2009 5 лет назад
That's a lot of dust to breathe in if you're indoors!
@gnuthad
@gnuthad 7 лет назад
Why use a shovel to mix when you could be making things easier with a spade?
@SolidSharkOFFICIAL
@SolidSharkOFFICIAL 5 лет назад
I want to see how it's transported
@giovannifiorentino8947
@giovannifiorentino8947 6 лет назад
Pelease add a short vídeo to show the pour hardened and stripped from the form.
@industrialsales878
@industrialsales878 7 лет назад
Ever tried making your brick mix using GFRC ?
@nc3826
@nc3826 6 лет назад
GFRC should be used more. Since like in this post the metal reinforcement is improperly placed...
@chidrole
@chidrole 7 лет назад
I love ❤️ putting concrete in my underpants!
@carlingallagher2441
@carlingallagher2441 6 лет назад
Same 😂😂😂
@Blox117
@Blox117 6 лет назад
yeah, that way im always rock hard
@JohnSmith-su3ze
@JohnSmith-su3ze 6 лет назад
What is this substance called 'sand' that they are using?
@baki8514
@baki8514 5 лет назад
Do i have to add stone?
@assyrianme
@assyrianme 6 лет назад
I thought you only use lime and sand for mortar for older buildings. Bricks expand and contract in the summer/winter, but concrete doesn't and breaks the brick.
@pettypendergrass8596
@pettypendergrass8596 6 лет назад
i prefer stir fry, the wok way.. i'm certain they have it wrong
@MRRED7777
@MRRED7777 7 лет назад
isnt 1/6 like 1 bud of sement and 6 bud of sand ? and ad water that much it isnt swamp
@RWW1980
@RWW1980 6 лет назад
Could you do parts by weight?
@inv1cmaj
@inv1cmaj 11 месяцев назад
Very informative. However they are using bare hands on wet concrete/cement ? That is a huge mistake and will cause burns.
@firstnamelastname7476
@firstnamelastname7476 7 лет назад
lol at all the tradies commenting on the small slab taking a long time.. don't think they understand concept of demonstration
@briandeschene8424
@briandeschene8424 7 лет назад
FirstName LastName Agreed. Plus, when I'm interested in DIY instructions, I'm looking for complete and understandable not cost efficient. I work with computers for a living and I'm sure my approach to doing my trade when I'm on the clock differs significantly from how these building tradespeople approach "messing around" with their PC at home.
@haha5571
@haha5571 6 лет назад
Ironically it takes Tradies a long time to ever call you back or get around to actually doing the job
@mikejones1298
@mikejones1298 6 лет назад
Except they finished it wrong. You're supposed to broom at the end and edge and float first.
@DeuceGenius
@DeuceGenius 6 лет назад
This was not a good demonstration
@psidvicious
@psidvicious 5 лет назад
Right. I’m surprised they got that wrong. Edge and groove THEN broom. It matters.
@billfromelma
@billfromelma 8 лет назад
So is that the same sand used to make garden soil drain better? What is it called?
@daisy9910
@daisy9910 7 лет назад
You need to use washed river sand when making concrete.
@electroimpex8897
@electroimpex8897 4 года назад
3:21 spider on the shovel
@microphonixvirtualstudio1634
@microphonixvirtualstudio1634 4 года назад
I am asumming youu heve a use for the slab of concret?
@ChristopherRIdleyUK
@ChristopherRIdleyUK 6 лет назад
good info thanks. but one needs to watch 4 vids or so to cherry pic best info.
@Fragrancemex
@Fragrancemex 4 года назад
Im so greatful hugs
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