How Ventile Cotton Really Works 

Ventile fabric works that way. When it gets wet, it goes slightly stiff because the fibers expand locking the fabric so that more water doesn't pass through. This means that single layer ventile will feel slightly moist on the inside in heavy rain but will not really let the water through. Combine that with a suitable layer (merino wool for example) underneath and you'll be very cozy in the rain. Double layer ventile will be completely waterproof. Yet both of them breath superbly. Fjallraven stuff doesn't come anywhere close regarding overall performance. The only thing where they top ventile garments is price :-D Ventile garments aren't cheap either, no question about that, but for example Fjallraven Smock number one is ridiculously overpriced for what it is.

cool vid thanks! So basically does that mean cotton is more absorbent than poly cotton fabric? looks like it would get quite heavy and stiff. Thanks again for sharing,

Tilak (Czech Republic) is also producing some nice Ventile jackets

Woah, amazing immersive video. Worth mentioning that Ventile, especially double, when sodden will take a very very long time to dry out without heat, I mean days. So, you're on a long trek in rain and camping out, the Ventile wets out and you store it out of the rain in the tent vestibule or somewhere, next day it's still sodden and wet and heavy. Poly-cotton like Fjallraven's G1000 dries much more quickly. G1000 isn't intended to be waterproof, so actually it has a different function to Ventile. Personally, I prefer non-waterproof but windproof and tough cotton or poly-cotton and if it rains heavily, I put over or under it a Columbia Outdry jacket. Wool layering always, which is still the best. Cheers.

Great video Anton - its answered a few questions I had on Ventile - keep the videos coming mate - ill share this one on Twitter :)

I really dont get this. Which jacket is which... were you suggeting the jacket you put on at the end was best..

Hello again.....I've found a Naava jacket on line, like yours ! Would you recommend it ? I really love the looks of it. Already have a Kare pants ! Give me advise please about the Naava. Thank you !

Nice video man. Question... The blue jacket was ventile cotton and it absorbed water? At 1:20, what was that jacket on the far left made out of?

Awesome channel!!!! Do you do all your filming on a canon 5d mark 3? Picture quality is superb!👌🏻

lovely video...Thank you for sharing this magical images and atmosphere. Can you also tell me what jacket you are wearing when arriving on the video. I think it looks the same as the Sasta kare trousers ... Am I correct about the kare trousers to ? And..... why Taiga and no Peski ? Wish to spend my money well ! Greetings from Belgium

quite pleased to have found your RU-vid channel. Like the video style too.

Reading about the Peski size you mention .... I have a chest 119cm, waist 106 this would require a XXL . But I am 182 tall and 87kg. Wich means I am smaller than you are.... Will this XXL have very long sleeves for me ?? I've watched your Arctic camping and the Peski fits you very well, but you have a XL. What is your chest size please and do you have a lot off space over in the peski ?

Wow, good demonstration! Thanks a lot!

Great vid, Prettybackward. I have a question - if You have to decide - would You buy Fjall Anorak again? Cheers from Poland!

Excellent video. What the temperature was on this day?

So when Ventile wets out it becomes waterproof.

Not certain I understand your point of the "limp" Fjällräven waxed polyester cotton anorak. Fact that it was not frozen/hardened by the water treatment indicates it had absorbed no water unlike the Ventile products? Is this not good??

Hey. Can I ask what make and model the ventilation jackets were. Very cool dog you have. What breed is it. Cheers Julian UK

Bought a Ventile Anorak made by Snugpack round 2005/06, went to Norway that summer, had hours of rain in Rondane. At that time I also wore a Ventile shirt underneath, so a double layer of Ventile. Man was I cold and soaked after a couple of hours, I was very unimpressed and very glad we stayed in a warm hut that night. And the stifness of the material after it got wet, very uncomfortable. Later I tried about everything to improve the waterrepellency to no avail. But it is very windproof, it does breath much better then any Gore or other material, it makes noise but not as much as most synthetics and it's still there and I still use it regularly, it almost seems indistructable. As with G1000 which it also very good but lighter and less waterresistant (hence the waxblock) you better treat it as a non waterproof but very windproof outerlayer (G1000 is not as windproof as Ventile is, read Ranulph Fiennes book Mind over matter). As long as you do not forget a simple waterproof for the worst rainy conditions it's a good reliable product, but don't mistake weatherproof for waterproof, you'll be dissapointed. But one more thing, last winter right after work when I wanted to jump on my bicycle, a thunderstorm went loose. I work in a shop and we sell these spray-on sillicon cannisters by the brand Atsco(?name right?). So I bought a bottle and immediately sprayed it on my old Ventile (I forgot my rainjacket this day, bad timing), put the anorak on at ones, it being wet from the sillicon stuff and I steppen outside into the storm. 50 minutes of hard wind and heavy rain and came home completely dry????? And even now month later it seems quite waterresistant but I stil bring the rainjacket...

Oh man.......is so cool!!!!!! Perfect

Hi, This is very good Video. I have two very old Ventile Jackets, both where made in the UK for Polar work. I stopped using them, Scotland, Wales many years ago. Paramo, I now use. it looks like No 8. and has stood up to hard use for around seven to eight years. Its good, but I am looking for a No 8. I like G-1000, Poly-Cotton mix, plus natural bee wax for reproofing. Keep well.

Over 30 years of mostly Winter climbing in Scotland (wet cold, wet snow, wet air, wet ground, wet everything, except on the occasional wonderful cold, dry day) I have found Gore Tex XCR (Patagonia Ice 9 jacket) the best at keeping me as dry as one can be when sweating in the rain / snow. I have also used Buffalo salopettes (Pertex covered fibrepile, not waterproof but quick drying and very warm) - good but not for sitting on belays so ultimately not suitable as the outer layer. I also used Patagonia's own H2No (smock) for years and found it not very breathable but very durable. Have used Mountain Equipment climbing salopettes (waterproof and breathable, looks like Gore Tex on the inside but don't think it is) and found them excellent. I used them and the Ice 9 in Norway and the Alps in winter (lovely dry cold) and the alps in Summer well above the snowline and found them excellent. I just don't recognise what people are talking about when they say Gore Tex doesn't work in humid conditions. That said, I like the feel and drape of 'natural' fabrics and so have bought a Fjallraven anorak in G1000 for woodland walks in nothing worse than showery weather. Not had the chance to try it in the rain but wore it sledging on a cold, dry crisp day in the Eifel recently and loved it. However, no way would I go into the Scottish hills in winter in it - you need to stay dry or the cold will do for you. Horses for courses. PS: that Paramo stuff has it's fans - never tried it. PPS: the British Army, the German Army, the Belgian army and probably others issue 'Gore Tex' waterproofs (called MVP by the UK military) - I think that says something.

great video. i did not quite understood which jacket is better. i think the green one which you put on is better. but wha material is it made of? and which company is it? i am thinking to buy Fjallraven sarek treckking jaket. but now i found your instagram and you have jackets from different company. not sure niw which one to buy. would you say that fjallraven is good jackets for outdoors from you experience? i would really appreciate your unswer, it would help alot. i have fjallraven vidda pro pents and they are good, just not sure about jacket. thank you very much. great videos, great insta pictures, great video quality and structure. greetings from nyc

I've tried out so many jackets over the yrs and the money some of them cost and they still not waterproof,and take ages to dry, I use a helikon pilgrim now, not waterproof but if it's saturated from heavy rain it's dry by the morning

This is a "very cool" video … ;-) not a lot of words needed to tell the truth! Thank you.

Mahtava video Anton! Jatka samaa rataa ja kohta oot youtubestara! T: Pietari :D

But in the end you wore one made out of Ventile so the "freezing" is not an issue? I might be reading this wrong :P Very cool and great way to demonstrate the differences!

thanks for the video mate, about to buy some CP Company Ventile jacket. best regards

I can't understand what is good and what is not cause I don't have experience in those things but I want to start climb mountain for hobby. Can someone help me and tell me the two jackets are good and the other one isn't. I have search for anorak 8 and I thought it was very good.

I don't get it. So you don't need a coat hanger for some of them

Can I ask please what shelter is that you are using? Is it a Vihe Loue 11?

Thank you for this comparison. I am a happy Fjellreven user from Norway. (Singi jacket, Gaitar no 1 trouser) I have used a lot of membrane jackets like gore tex, but they dont breath and they are noisy. I like G1000 alot better, but they get easily wet. I have never tryed Ventile but it looks very interesting. How would you compare the Ventile fabric to G1000? And what fabric do you prefer? The Sasta Taiga looks nice. I usually wear XL but in fjellreven I use L. How are the Sasta sizes?

XXL myisi aika hyvällä hinnalla (230€) tuota Peski-anorakkia, mutta kun menin myymälään katsomaan niitä tarkemmin, niin niissä olikin kirkkaan oranssit nyörit eikä mustat kuten tuossa sunkin Peskissä on. Se oli niin törkeän näköinen että jätin ostamatta. Eipä ne värit tietenkään vaatteen toiminnallisuuteen vaikuta, mutta en vaan halua kirkkaita huomiovärejä metsävarustukseeni. Oli kyllä paha pettymys, enkä tiedä miksi ovat moiseen ratkaisuun päätyneet. EDIT: Katoin väärin, Peski olikin tuo sininen eikä vihreä noista...

Reminds me on Columbia when girt was around

I am ignorant on this subject so the fact that nothing was said or explained really does nothing for me but I'm still interested in learning what the hell's going on here...lol

Outdoor "art house" cinema! Great 👍

This video says it’s not judging jackets/materials but it’s rather misleading. Every fabric has advantages and disadvantages. Double ventile has better breathability than just about all waxed/membrane fabrics something like 98% transmission so it is more comfortable to wear and is perfect for most walking conditions. Waxed and membrane fabrics get hot and sweaty very quickly unlike ventile. Ventile is also completely wind proof. When new the fabric does OK in most rain conditions and in light rain and showers it performs very well as it actually drys out but remains breathable during a walk. It’s not good in conditions of heavy rain in this situation it’s best to immediacy cover with a lightweight water proof. As I spend the vast majority of my time not walking in heavy rain it’s the perfect material for me.

actually no, it was not fjallraven logo. sorry

Ventile is only good for very cold dry weather, no matter what people who sell it say its not good for rain at all.

Eipä ois tullut itselle mieleen tehdä tällaista vertailua, maukas :D

That told me absolutely nothing!

и что ?? что за фокус

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Sasta peski anorak is the worst jacket I've ever tried. I have done 3 mountain hikes with the jacket at altitudes above 1000m, mostly in rainy weather. All it takes is a light rain and after ten minutes your shoulders are soaked under the backpack straps, then your whole back is soaked, and if it rains for more than three hours you will be soaked completely. My only luck was that my destination was a mountain hut where I could dry everything overnight. If I had planned on bivouacking, it probably would have been life threatening. The funny thing is, my friend with a jacket at a third of the price got much better results. The Peski anorak is suitable at most as a windbreaker, but certainly not for rainy weather. It will provide more function perhaps if you are hiking with a shopping bag in hand. Don't spend €550 on this crap!

running explaination/commentary would be REAL USEFUL , otherwise just come across as 'loony' in woods acting silly w/gear ! -cause all that , still have NO IDEA HOW IT WORKS !?!?