For an extended view of our "Rally Vs the Nürburgring Nordschleife" video, with Hyundai's Thierry Neuville and Martijn Wydaeghe, check out @HMSGOfficial's video below! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2xX7tyqRQZY.html
Haha is it actually not that wide or smooth for a race track? I only have experience with rally. You could have two separate rallies at the same time by drawing a line down the middle of the road at this place. Hell you could do 3 or 4 on the wider sections I saw.
@@Caldwing No it is very bumpy and there is alot of variety in grip with different weather conditions. Contrary to most tracks, the road of the nordschleife was put on and not into the mountain. Theres 3 different areas where cars can go flying for a short period of time since the difference in height is so great. Also many dangerous parts, like flugplatz, that can result in nasty accidents with strong enough wind blowing from the right front. There is no margin for error on the nordschleife, much like rally
To give an idea on the performance differential between Rally1 and TCR, here's a little breakdown: Both cars are powered by single-turbo inline 4's and connected to a 6-speed gearbox. However that's where the similarities end. The Elantra TCR's inline 4 is a 2-litre unit vs the i20 Rally1's 1.6-litre. The TCR engine produces 340hp 460nm of torque; 10nm more than the Rally1 engine but is 35hp down. Furthermore, the TCR is purely combustion-powered whereas the Rally1 car is boosted part-time by a 125hp hybrid electric motor to deliver a combined 500hp. The TCR is based on a production Elantra road car chassis, modified with fender flares and other miscellaneous racing components, while the Rally1 car is built on a bespoke safety-cell chassis fitted with a silhouette body shell with a passing resemblance to the i20 production car. The TCR Elantra in its current Balance of Performance weighs in at 1295kg with driver and without fuel, while the rally1 i20 weighs in at 1260kg empty (assuming both occupants weigh 75kg apiece, that puts the Rally1 car at approximately 1410kg) As for the transmission, the Elantra TCR can either run a 6-speed race-spec gearbox, or with a 35kg weight reduction benefit, use the OEM production-spec transmission. Both options solely power the front wheels. The i20 Rally1 solely uses a race-spec 6-speed gearbox that delivers the power of the Combustion engine to all four wheels simultaneously with a 50:50 front-rear torque split from the 4WD system. However, the hybrid motor solely powers the rear wheels, meaning the combined torque split is approximately 37:63 rear-biased when the hybrid motor is deployed.
The problem with the rally car on track is its ratios, it's just not built for this, in a race between the 2, the rally car will be faster in corners but maxes out at what, 190 kph? I think the TCR can reach more than that. Especially on the nordschleife with VERY long straights my money would be on the TCR. Unless you can change the ratioes of the rally car, but 1. Is it made for 200+, can it physically do it? 2. You will take away from its acceleration by messing with the ratios. Edit: I found the top speed of the TCR which is 154 mph (248 kmh). Pretty significant difference.
The Rally1 car has a 5-speed gearbox, and ratios are homologated for the whole season. I think I20's goes up to 201 kph. If Hyundai wanted they could change the final drive to make it go quicker. I don't think they would lose too much acceleration because of the hybrid system (oh and also make it deploy all the time not only at a certain speed)
@@lavishmctavish4905 with a longer final drive and different ratios the rally car would probably pull 175mph with 500hp, and carrying far more down force. Add in tarmac stage tyres and suspension, and I reckon the rally car would monster the ring. Factor in the pace notes, some lap time along with rally drivers lightening reactions at the limit, and it could yield epic times. I recall back in 80s group B, that they reckoned henri toivenenen could have qualified 3rd on grid for that years Belgium F1 GP. Modern Rally1s are faster than group B over a stage..,, I hope they do it.
I wouldn't try it blind folded and that's having thousands of laps around it in simulators and a few dozen real driving laps around it(during Tourist Drives).
Thierry has a French accent while Martijn has a Dutch accent, they are Belgian after all which is a multi-lingual country. Supposedly Thierry's mother tongue is actually German, but he usually has his notes in French and his accent in English is also quite French lol
Been watching motor racing since 1965. Seen them all watched racing in 4 different countries. Thee best. Thee most talented. Thee mist underrated. Thee most entertaining. Motor car racing in the world. Is WRC period.
Yes, the only form of motor car racing that gives me close to the feeling of watching motor bike racing, isle of Mann can never be replaced for fear of death for me.. skill and fearlessness unmatched..
Nordschleife has been a stage in the rally Köln-Ahrweiler for years, but reversed... Tip: Don't hit the guard rails when going rond the other way; the way the individual lengths are coupled together will peel your car open like a can opener!
I feel like the only corner they really enjoyed was the carrousel. I mean, they described the rest of the track as wide, smooth, and with a lot of room between corners.
Was looking for the exact comment! I got to the end and asked:"so how did they do?" I thought for sure there would be some comparison of some sort with the same car and a pilot who knows the track or a just a comparison with recorded times with other pilots with driving cars of similar performance. I'm leaving a little unsatisfied, something's missing to this video as enjoyable as it is already.
It seems both the navigator and the driver enjoyed their run of the green hell. and I can take one thing I always wondered about from my list. Thank you
Explanation: WRC fans are happy, because their promoter finally does his job. We are in a golden time car, action and skill wise, but its got almost no promotion.
@@thegotterdammerung I think you are being quite biased here. Lets be real for a second F1 is not a "weird teenaged boy's version of the real housewives" its still the same racing series, just happens that with social media the personality side is pushed harder than before. Its been on a steady increase in popularity since 2017 or so and its not all that different racing wise from decades past. Regardless if you dont like it, your description shows a heavy negative bias, and love it or hate it, Liberty media is doing something right. WRC was doing great in the 80's and was even more popular in the 90's however here in 2024 you cant go a WRC event without talks of the issues of the future, the sport needs to shake up its media output, and how it presents itself, because currently having 2 and a half teams and only being able to watch being a paywall aside from 1-2 stages in countries with broadcasts IS NOT sustainable.
while back i drove part of the nordcheife as a rallye stage in my metro 6r4 early evening in the dark no lamp pod .lucky the 6r4 is nosey i found the way via the photo flash from camera,s of fan,s. limited to 200 kph it great fun .p.s the rallye was blind no notes.
Love the sound of the turbo in the higher revs when it sounds like it sputtering. Don't know if I'm describing it right, I hear it in the Alpine A220 race car in GT7.
incredibly bad video editing.. We didn't see anything from the lap, and thier speed, or how they take the corners. 15 min video and not a single minute where you can see how do they drive.
Why cant they make an audio/video recording during the recy? Then they kan make the notes comfortably after the drive… is it a antiquated regulation thingy in rally?
They do record it as well when they do it in real life. Then after they can use the recording to check for mistakes. They would still want to actually go and drive the course to see the conditions on the ground. In a real rally they would actually stop and get out of the car sometimes to check the placement of rocks and other hazards.
This course is essentially a wide open drag race compared to any tarmac rally stage. The narrowest parts of it look wide enough to have two rallies at the same time side by side. I didn't see a single turn more than like a 3. No real elevation changes, no jumps, no crests, no rocks or cliffs. A Sunday pleasure drive really.
Well he is not even driving rally car, that Hyundai is Front-wheel drive track car. Rally1 would be interesting indeed, but it would need much longer final drive ratio because they have very limited top speed.
Go to any Hyundai dealership or watch a TV commercial in the United States and everyone pronounces it as Hunday. I don't know about the rest of the world as I was referring to US only.
The y is silent. Even Koreans(I've asked a few) pronounce it as Hunday. Rhymes with Sunday. Of course we're talking about the same people that add an extra I to Aluminum. Alu-mini-um? naw bruh... just naw.
I don’t know where you’re from but this is factually incorrect. They localized the brand name to make it the most efficiently pronounceable for local language speakers around the world.
you are completely missing the point. Also the irony in telling professional rally drivers they are doing something incorrect when spelling the Nordschleife the 'nordsleiffe' is embarassing.
Brilliant video but please do this in a WRC car and show those premadonnas at Porsche how we do it!! By the way, I'm a 911 driver with 2 Subaru's in my garage 💙
They only had two laps bud. Likely due to being racers they know the nord fairly well. Still this is rally on the nurb, so they get two laps for notes. That will help remember the various breaking points and what not which change depending on class of car.
