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How Would Rally Drivers Tackle the Nürburgring Nordschleife? 

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Rally stages are no joke, and can vary from the mountains of Monaco's Monte Carlo to the wild landscapes of Kenya and everywhere in between. But what about over 20km of Green Hell? The Nürburgring Nordschleife is a monstrous track, so Hyundai sent Thierry Neuville and Martijn Wydaeghe, as well as our own Tom Howard, to the Nürburgring to see what rallying over the famous track would be like, and to find out how important pacenotes are to a rally driver.
0:00 Rallying on the Nürburgring Nordschleife
0:46 Recce & Pacenotes
7:52 Running the Stage
10:26 Debrief Interview
13:53 Final Thoughts
#wrc #rally #nürburgring
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@AutosportOfficial
@AutosportOfficial 29 дней назад
For an extended view of our "Rally Vs the Nürburgring Nordschleife" video, with Hyundai's Thierry Neuville and Martijn Wydaeghe, check out @HMSGOfficial's video below! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2xX7tyqRQZY.html
@FernandoZome
@FernandoZome 16 дней назад
"...the road is very smooth, very wide..." is definitely a rally people thing to say about the nordschleife 😂
@guiseppe36749
@guiseppe36749 11 дней назад
i've been there, and to be honest it actually is a pretty wide track. games an video footage makes it look narrow due to FOV.
@FernandoZome
@FernandoZome 11 дней назад
@@guiseppe36749 hey, that's nice! And no doubt, on video it seems much more scarier
@GreatistheWorld
@GreatistheWorld 17 дней назад
“Opens for endless fast” is one of my favorite pace notes ever
@Retheraq
@Retheraq 14 дней назад
When is that?
@Retheraq
@Retheraq 14 дней назад
9:15 found it
@lasstunsspielen8279
@lasstunsspielen8279 6 дней назад
Sounds like Döttinger Höhe
@bett431
@bett431 29 дней назад
Actually crazy to find out how Thierrys normal pace notes work, because that system needs a lot of experience and confidence with his car.
@exist
@exist 29 дней назад
I can only imagine if the Nordschleife was still in it's 1960s layout, a rally here would've been like watching a modern day Group B event.
@Pointlessusername-zr3jy
@Pointlessusername-zr3jy 16 дней назад
They actually have local rallies on the circuit
@zelig1799
@zelig1799 29 дней назад
Is there a single sim racer who couldn't drive this track blindfolded at this point?
@TomGS
@TomGS 29 дней назад
Either Misha or Jimmer.... With Misha, i would be terrified. With Jimmer, I would be terrified and entertained.
@urchin13_
@urchin13_ 28 дней назад
@@TomGSYea jimmer is just nonhuman on this track.
@SternLX
@SternLX 19 дней назад
I wouldn't try it blind folded and that's having thousands of laps around it in simulators and a few dozen real driving laps around it(during Tourist Drives).
@abhibeckert
@abhibeckert 16 дней назад
Sure, could drive it slowly blindfolded. At speed though, no two laps are the same.
@veialyyad4816
@veialyyad4816 15 дней назад
I cant get bored of this track is had 1100+ hours on Nurburgring across 4 sim games compared to other track which all combined is less than 200 hours
@cerdic9
@cerdic9 29 дней назад
Martijn Wydaeghe sounds completely different in English, I thought he was dubbed over at first.
@viktornobrain7689
@viktornobrain7689 29 дней назад
He sounds so much calmer
@rolanddo4989
@rolanddo4989 24 дня назад
Probably because french is the most inefficient language on this planet lol
@wwanimator
@wwanimator 23 дня назад
Thierry has a French accent while Martijn has a Dutch accent, they are Belgian after all which is a multi-lingual country. Supposedly Thierry's mother tongue is actually German, but he usually has his notes in French and his accent in English is also quite French lol
@legoferrari14
@legoferrari14 29 дней назад
To give an idea on the performance differential between Rally1 and TCR, here's a little breakdown: Both cars are powered by single-turbo inline 4's and connected to a 6-speed gearbox. However that's where the similarities end. The Elantra TCR's inline 4 is a 2-litre unit vs the i20 Rally1's 1.6-litre. The TCR engine produces 340hp 460nm of torque; 10nm more than the Rally1 engine but is 35hp down. Furthermore, the TCR is purely combustion-powered whereas the Rally1 car is boosted part-time by a 125hp hybrid electric motor to deliver a combined 500hp. The TCR is based on a production Elantra road car chassis, modified with fender flares and other miscellaneous racing components, while the Rally1 car is built on a bespoke safety-cell chassis fitted with a silhouette body shell with a passing resemblance to the i20 production car. The TCR Elantra in its current Balance of Performance weighs in at 1295kg with driver and without fuel, while the rally1 i20 weighs in at 1260kg empty (assuming both occupants weigh 75kg apiece, that puts the Rally1 car at approximately 1410kg) As for the transmission, the Elantra TCR can either run a 6-speed race-spec gearbox, or with a 35kg weight reduction benefit, use the OEM production-spec transmission. Both options solely power the front wheels. The i20 Rally1 solely uses a race-spec 6-speed gearbox that delivers the power of the Combustion engine to all four wheels simultaneously with a 50:50 front-rear torque split from the 4WD system. However, the hybrid motor solely powers the rear wheels, meaning the combined torque split is approximately 37:63 rear-biased when the hybrid motor is deployed.
@lavishmctavish4905
@lavishmctavish4905 28 дней назад
The problem with the rally car on track is its ratios, it's just not built for this, in a race between the 2, the rally car will be faster in corners but maxes out at what, 190 kph? I think the TCR can reach more than that. Especially on the nordschleife with VERY long straights my money would be on the TCR. Unless you can change the ratioes of the rally car, but 1. Is it made for 200+, can it physically do it? 2. You will take away from its acceleration by messing with the ratios. Edit: I found the top speed of the TCR which is 154 mph (248 kmh). Pretty significant difference.
@gillesh333
@gillesh333 28 дней назад
The Rally1 car has a 5-speed gearbox, and ratios are homologated for the whole season. I think I20's goes up to 201 kph. If Hyundai wanted they could change the final drive to make it go quicker. I don't think they would lose too much acceleration because of the hybrid system (oh and also make it deploy all the time not only at a certain speed)
@gaycha6589
@gaycha6589 28 дней назад
@@lavishmctavish4905 with a longer final drive and different ratios the rally car would probably pull 175mph with 500hp, and carrying far more down force. Add in tarmac stage tyres and suspension, and I reckon the rally car would monster the ring. Factor in the pace notes, some lap time along with rally drivers lightening reactions at the limit, and it could yield epic times. I recall back in 80s group B, that they reckoned henri toivenenen could have qualified 3rd on grid for that years Belgium F1 GP. Modern Rally1s are faster than group B over a stage..,, I hope they do it.
@gaycha6589
@gaycha6589 28 дней назад
Great analysis
@Franko384
@Franko384 26 дней назад
Rally1 has 5 Gears. Not 6
@dudesidabe8243
@dudesidabe8243 18 дней назад
"That was relaxing" what a legend
@Racingwespe
@Racingwespe 28 дней назад
waiting for Misha to comment
@luboltz5201
@luboltz5201 22 дня назад
They filmed theirself. They may been in any place, do you see the track? do you see the drive? What may say Micha about this video?
@RichardMcLaren
@RichardMcLaren 21 день назад
Triggered!
@BeenNoticing
@BeenNoticing 19 дней назад
I'd love to see Misha do a WRC stage ride along. I think he'd really enjoy it, and I know it'd be entertaining to watch.
@henkverzeijl1525
@henkverzeijl1525 15 дней назад
Nordschleife has been a stage in the rally Köln-Ahrweiler for years, but reversed... Tip: Don't hit the guard rails when going rond the other way; the way the individual lengths are coupled together will peel your car open like a can opener!
@MemphiStig
@MemphiStig 14 дней назад
I'd love a copy of those pace notes.
@anxyietoo
@anxyietoo 13 дней назад
Watch the extended video in the description. It's the full onboard of the circuit with on- screen pace note captions
@zeus-mt7wx
@zeus-mt7wx 19 дней назад
Been watching motor racing since 1965. Seen them all watched racing in 4 different countries. Thee best. Thee most talented. Thee mist underrated. Thee most entertaining. Motor car racing in the world. Is WRC period.
@nollienick1121
@nollienick1121 15 дней назад
This is a amazing video. Really cool seeing the process they use to make the notes.
@speedmonkey75
@speedmonkey75 12 дней назад
That's the most calm I've ever seen rally drivers be in the car, lol. It's all relative!!
@MarcCastellsBallesta
@MarcCastellsBallesta 20 дней назад
I feel like the only corner they really enjoyed was the carrousel. I mean, they described the rest of the track as wide, smooth, and with a lot of room between corners.
@wrc5557
@wrc5557 29 дней назад
such a shame Criag Breen isnt still around to represent Hyundai here, coming from a karting and racing background he'd have aced it!
@Akash-uq8wg
@Akash-uq8wg 28 дней назад
Love it. Wrc is an amazing unique teamwork between tue pilots.
@Dillyvl
@Dillyvl 28 дней назад
thx, very interesting video.
@christophergardiner535
@christophergardiner535 27 дней назад
Love the sound of the turbo in the higher revs when it sounds like it sputtering. Don't know if I'm describing it right, I hear it in the Alpine A220 race car in GT7.
@GenericWhiteMan00
@GenericWhiteMan00 17 дней назад
I'd love to see the flip side competition to this. Send grip racers to a rally course.
12 дней назад
Was thinking the same. Rally is such a different beast.
@Dung30n
@Dung30n 6 дней назад
It seems both the navigator and the driver enjoyed their run of the green hell. and I can take one thing I always wondered about from my list. Thank you
@peter8084
@peter8084 24 дня назад
So what was their lap time then ?
@ericmarois6960
@ericmarois6960 14 дней назад
Was looking for the exact comment! I got to the end and asked:"so how did they do?" I thought for sure there would be some comparison of some sort with the same car and a pilot who knows the track or a just a comparison with recorded times with other pilots with driving cars of similar performance. I'm leaving a little unsatisfied, something's missing to this video as enjoyable as it is already.
@fermotor2019
@fermotor2019 23 дня назад
Let's Go Neuville!!...the Circuit!!
@paulkearney4565
@paulkearney4565 28 дней назад
Brilliant video but please do this in a WRC car and show those premadonnas at Porsche how we do it!! By the way, I'm a 911 driver with 2 Subaru's in my garage 💙
@yugimotobutjacked3231
@yugimotobutjacked3231 10 дней назад
I think we have a Master Blaster type scenario between the little guy and the big guy. 100% Master Blaster scenario.
@Exponaut_R-01
@Exponaut_R-01 9 дней назад
I’ve always wanted to hear that track as pace notes
@620Supercomp
@620Supercomp 25 дней назад
Cool to hear Martijns sight more than normal...
@694PDPX6R4
@694PDPX6R4 19 дней назад
while back i drove part of the nordcheife as a rallye stage in my metro 6r4 early evening in the dark no lamp pod .lucky the 6r4 is nosey i found the way via the photo flash from camera,s of fan,s. limited to 200 kph it great fun .p.s the rallye was blind no notes.
@martinlund809
@martinlund809 28 дней назад
Next time they should try a rally 1 car
@kurtwomack6473
@kurtwomack6473 23 дня назад
And your lap time was what?!?! 🕒⏳ Very interesting video.
@Tjescoo
@Tjescoo 29 дней назад
I bet I won't see any "paid promotion" comments on this video! In other news: Yes! A WRC promotion 😍
@bett431
@bett431 29 дней назад
Explanation: WRC fans are happy, because their promoter finally does his job. We are in a golden time car, action and skill wise, but its got almost no promotion.
@AmbientMike
@AmbientMike 29 дней назад
@@thegotterdammerung the sport still desperately needs eyes on it, gatekeeping will only kill the sport.
@AmbientMike
@AmbientMike 29 дней назад
@@thegotterdammerung I think you are being quite biased here. Lets be real for a second F1 is not a "weird teenaged boy's version of the real housewives" its still the same racing series, just happens that with social media the personality side is pushed harder than before. Its been on a steady increase in popularity since 2017 or so and its not all that different racing wise from decades past. Regardless if you dont like it, your description shows a heavy negative bias, and love it or hate it, Liberty media is doing something right. WRC was doing great in the 80's and was even more popular in the 90's however here in 2024 you cant go a WRC event without talks of the issues of the future, the sport needs to shake up its media output, and how it presents itself, because currently having 2 and a half teams and only being able to watch being a paywall aside from 1-2 stages in countries with broadcasts IS NOT sustainable.
@jansefran1752
@jansefran1752 28 дней назад
There will be new lap record ... Neuwille could DO IT.👍🚙🚀🛸
@razorsitch9882
@razorsitch9882 14 дней назад
Not unless they un-retire the Porsche 919 Evo and stick a second seat in it he can’t
@BlueJazzBoyNZ
@BlueJazzBoyNZ 29 дней назад
Having Crashed at the Nordschleife It was visceral Pricey and a bucket list.
@Geenimetsuri
@Geenimetsuri 5 дней назад
For rally drivers, all corners in the Nordschleife are easy rights or lefts :-D
@donyiiovanni
@donyiiovanni 23 дня назад
I'd like to see it in a WRC car in Tarmac setup
@MrDevilkeh
@MrDevilkeh 21 день назад
Why cant they make an audio/video recording during the recy? Then they kan make the notes comfortably after the drive… is it a antiquated regulation thingy in rally?
@-yayschmitty-8440
@-yayschmitty-8440 2 дня назад
No way he called the literal Green Hell relaxing ☠️
@-yayschmitty-8440
@-yayschmitty-8440 2 дня назад
Granted he had pacenotes. But whatever 🤷‍♂️
@vinching926
@vinching926 28 дней назад
What if they took the 911 Dakar time trial route instead of the normal route?
@erikthys3911
@erikthys3911 10 дней назад
It's all straight:)
@jacohop
@jacohop 24 дня назад
What was the time??
@ALHEALY9110
@ALHEALY9110 28 дней назад
😎
@kimmikxgaming5010
@kimmikxgaming5010 6 дней назад
Jambo From Kenya
@dontfollowmeimlost6634
@dontfollowmeimlost6634 9 дней назад
" I think with a Rally car, we can go faster "💀
@K666_ANB
@K666_ANB 28 дней назад
Now get on a rallycross circuit, Lydden Hill, Höljes, Hell?
@OneHuntiBoi
@OneHuntiBoi 24 дня назад
Well... We have that video of the 911 Dakar on the Nords...
@300Exige
@300Exige 29 дней назад
No time ? 😢
@gaycha6589
@gaycha6589 29 дней назад
It will be quicker than most.
@300Exige
@300Exige 29 дней назад
@@gaycha6589 I’m sure, just curious what a good driver in a rally car might do around there.
@babar292
@babar292 28 дней назад
Well he is not even driving rally car, that Hyundai is Front-wheel drive track car. Rally1 would be interesting indeed, but it would need much longer final drive ratio because they have very limited top speed.
@andylies
@andylies 23 дня назад
I need to know how fast he was.
@davidbee9563
@davidbee9563 27 дней назад
All talk and not showing the entire lap with actual speed? Some idea how the car compares with a road version? Why?
@makantahi3731
@makantahi3731 16 дней назад
and, can we see their drive
@hebron205
@hebron205 13 дней назад
..and they were doing the notes in English for the cameras
@mberrey45
@mberrey45 20 дней назад
Go to any Hyundai dealership or watch a TV commercial in the United States and everyone pronounces it as Hunday. I don't know about the rest of the world as I was referring to US only.
@SternLX
@SternLX 19 дней назад
The y is silent. Even Koreans(I've asked a few) pronounce it as Hunday. Rhymes with Sunday. Of course we're talking about the same people that add an extra I to Aluminum. Alu-mini-um? naw bruh... just naw.
@rogerhouben9230
@rogerhouben9230 21 день назад
Easy full send😂
@FreestylerAlbert
@FreestylerAlbert 28 дней назад
incredibly bad video editing.. We didn't see anything from the lap, and thier speed, or how they take the corners. 15 min video and not a single minute where you can see how do they drive.
@gibsonshini2805
@gibsonshini2805 10 дней назад
Not like in Kenya really...😂😂 Welcome to 254
@Qaor
@Qaor 14 дней назад
Pace notes for the ring?? Just memorize it..
@yugimotobutjacked3231
@yugimotobutjacked3231 10 дней назад
They only had two laps bud. Likely due to being racers they know the nord fairly well. Still this is rally on the nurb, so they get two laps for notes. That will help remember the various breaking points and what not which change depending on class of car.
@59vaughn
@59vaughn 9 часов назад
Where's misha....?...🤔
@bastianjansen3212
@bastianjansen3212 15 дней назад
hat viel zu lange gedauert!
@razorsitch9882
@razorsitch9882 14 дней назад
How? Slowly. That’s how, they’ll be topped out in sixth bouncing off the rev limiter for about 85% of the lap at a guess
@KevBoy3D
@KevBoy3D 24 дня назад
Adenaur Forst. TF driver: *cut*
@dealscale
@dealscale 16 дней назад
I memorized the entire track by playing daily on my sim racing rig.
@Protato666
@Protato666 17 дней назад
Close circuit racing is just boring compared to what a WRC driver faces in a random gravel country road out there
@RS265trophy
@RS265trophy 24 дня назад
hard to understand the speaker
@piotrknapkiewicz9811
@piotrknapkiewicz9811 16 дней назад
Fatal camera angle.
@mberrey45
@mberrey45 21 день назад
It drives me nuts when people mispronounce Hyundai. It's pronounced Sunday but with an H. Sheesh. Get it right please.
@SylverPfeil
@SylverPfeil 20 дней назад
I don’t know where you’re from but this is factually incorrect. They localized the brand name to make it the most efficiently pronounceable for local language speakers around the world.
@danfox1458
@danfox1458 23 дня назад
So what was the time? a pointless vid if you don't even bother saying what the time is/was
@Time.for.a.new.september.11
@Time.for.a.new.september.11 26 дней назад
World leading? What a joke
@philippegohier6992
@philippegohier6992 29 дней назад
A pilot who dont know the nordsleiffe by memory is not a pilot.
@AmbientMike
@AmbientMike 29 дней назад
you are completely missing the point. Also the irony in telling professional rally drivers they are doing something incorrect when spelling the Nordschleife the 'nordsleiffe' is embarassing.
@stefans.2497
@stefans.2497 27 дней назад
Which time they drove?
@Racingwespe
@Racingwespe 21 день назад
A motorsport fan who writes "nordsleiffe" is not a good motorsport fan
@AmbientMike
@AmbientMike 21 день назад
@@Racingwespe its quite hilarious to try to speak with authority when making the most comical spelling error.
@puuzaa
@puuzaa 16 дней назад
Nobody in this video even claim that Thierry doesn't know track before.. 😅
@damag3plan
@damag3plan 12 дней назад
They should have done it backwards 🤔
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