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Human Performance SECRETS Behind Norwegian World Champions: Olav Aleksander Bu 

Rich Roll
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The legendary coach of Kristian Blummenfelt and Gustav Iden, Olav Aleksander Bu, joins Rich to talk about his unique science-based training protocols that are producing astonishing results in the world of swim-bike-run. To read more about Olav and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾bit.ly/richroll729
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:31 - How did you make Kristian & Gustav so good?
00:04:06 - Culture is fundamental to development.
00:08:39 - Values and Priorities
00:11:16 - Applying values to tactics, strategies and practices.
00:16:02 - What has Olav learned from Kona?
00:22:02 - Olav's Background: Lifelong Curiosity to Tinker
00:24:31 - Family tragedy
00:25:38 - Olav's transition into endurance sport
00:29:38 - Meeting Kristian & Gustav, merging technology with physiology
00:32:23 - Ad Break
00:33:52 - Limited advancements in triathlon sport beyond bikes
00:43:23 - Olav’s 2 fundamental ruling laws of energy for training
00:46:24 - Understanding lactate testing / VO2 Max / Capacity vs Concentration
00:59:21 - Separating Quality from Intensity on a Training Plan
01:05:20 - True discipline and intentional training
01:06:06 - Layers of importance: 1) velocity. 2) power. 3) lactate (efficiency)
01:15:20 - Core body temperature
01:19:59 - 80% of each calorie spent is devoted to heat; 20% to velocity
01:21:35 - Mechanical vs thermal power
01:22:48 - Evolutionary advances in heat management
01:26:50 - HRV. Don’t allow it to dictate your workout
01:30:13 - Difficult to predict overtraining, recovery
01:32:48 - Recovery, sleep, calories & listen to your body
01:36:43 - Maximal sustainable energy expenditure, What is the Limit to Human Performance?
01:40:59 - Closing Remarks
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@Timr3
@Timr3 Год назад
My 14 key takaways: -Culture Culture is the fundament of the Norwegian team. Culture comes with work ethic, habits and passion for each other. -Personal values Being a good human has inherent value. A gold medal is something we give value to. Surround yourself with people that consciously and subconsciously make you a better person. -Transparency Transparency creates a work environment for growth. Being transparent about yourself as a person builds trusts. Being transparent about ones advantages builds a stronger training environment. -Evaluating A race analysis needs some time to mature. There is less emphasize on data and more on the evaluation of the performance by the athlete. -Curiosity Olav has been curious since he was a kid. The drive to learn and understand separates him. -Competitive Being competitive does not only apply to sports. Olav wants to become the best in the things he does and expect nothing less from the people he is working with. -Physiological The physiological systems operate like a black box between input and output. Physiological numbers don’t explain the whole picture and there are still a lot of concepts that are not understand fully, such as: maximal lactate steady state and glycogen uptake. -Performance and technology Today much more of the research can be done in Vivo. This creates holistic training programs and stops obsessing over details. -Quality work If you work toward a specific goal, every session should be separated by quality instead of intensity. You should always be able to answer the question: what is the purpose of this session. Don’t be a workout hero and race day zero. -Lactate production Lactate is produced in the muscles and released in the bloodstream. The amount of lactate that is produced gets influenced by a lot of factors such as: blood volume, blood plasma and hydration. The body can use lactate as fuel. -Core body temperature The body turns around 20% of the energy uptake into mechanical power. The rest is turned into heat. When the body overheats, blood flow will be directed towards the skin instead of muscles which will reduce performance. -Heart rate variability HRV can be influenced by activities such as breathing techniques or a warming up routine. Readiness for training should therefore not be determined by the HRV but rather the perceived fatigue of the athlete. -Recovery Doing a hard session when not fully recovered will have a negative impact on future performance instead of a positive one. Listening to your body is important. -Nutrition Eating a variety of foods with enough calories is important for performance. Supplements can be used to fill gaps that require some additional attention.
@lps2564
@lps2564 Год назад
Thank you for taking the time to put this together 🤘
@alicequayle4625
@alicequayle4625 Год назад
Thanks for this.
@CoolInOlympia
@CoolInOlympia Год назад
I love that his philosophy is that what is important is to be a good PERSON!!!!
@user-gw1pf8kx1c
@user-gw1pf8kx1c Год назад
please tell this guy to write a book with all this content!
@arturoarino
@arturoarino 3 месяца назад
Wow, one of the best conversations I’ve heard, Thank you so much Rich for always bringing such great energy and insight into your podcasts
@nelson_alexander
@nelson_alexander Год назад
One if the most innovative minds in sport right now. Hopefully Kristian and Gustav can continue to elevate and dominate.
@johnnyhanel
@johnnyhanel Год назад
my guy shared a ton.. but also nothing at the same time lol. i wanted to hear training details, i guess i shouldn’t have expected him to share training secrets… the title just got me thinking he was going to.
@jessepratt6525
@jessepratt6525 Год назад
Awesome episode it was worth the wait. This is a man that is just bursting with knowledge in endurance training and articulates highly technical principles in a understandable way. I enjoyed how you got into his past before this career path and this has major replay value. It’s not a surprise his athletes are dominating especially when he touches on the human element as the most important aspect before the science.
@bitelshh
@bitelshh Год назад
Values ⚡️
@ericjou094
@ericjou094 Месяц назад
I never saw something so empowering for me and so human and technical at the same time, thanks so much.
@markphilpottultra
@markphilpottultra Год назад
Next level endurance conversation, without a shred of ego in sight. A fascinating insight to what it takes to take the sport of triathlon by the scruff of the neck, shake it up, and spit it out, creating the new baseline for everyone to copy or build upon.
@brijnich
@brijnich Год назад
Only 10 mins into this and the pod is next level culture values and data. Brilliant listen
@licencetostay007
@licencetostay007 4 месяца назад
I could listen to these two talk for hours
@BentoBensin
@BentoBensin Год назад
Just wow, incredibly fascinating conversation! Soo much to take in. This is one of those pods that needs to be consumed to multiple times. Can't wait for part two ;)
@FitterHealthierDad
@FitterHealthierDad Год назад
Such a fantastic interview you can really see how he applies his engineers mind to his coaching, it’s almost like he’s taking a lot of approaches from Formula 1
@Upsidestrength
@Upsidestrength Год назад
Amazing interview 💪💪 well done guys
@nicolasbarbalan8759
@nicolasbarbalan8759 Год назад
this is an amazing interview!! thanks so much
@paubalart1657
@paubalart1657 Год назад
Wow! What a guy! Definately a new huge approach to everything in sport. Looking forward part two
@LikeKoby
@LikeKoby 11 месяцев назад
How much do Gustav and Christian stretch or work directly on body mobility? Day, week, month? Do they test and compare results from their past in this regard? These are some questions I have never heard talked about for these two athletes.
@CoolInOlympia
@CoolInOlympia Год назад
This was a great interview about coaching and training!
@locorunner
@locorunner Год назад
One of your best episodes. Learned so much from this. Thanks Rich.
@nooahchannel
@nooahchannel Год назад
I am loving this talks with Olav Aleksander Bu. He is awesome.
@garretbrentDG
@garretbrentDG Год назад
Finally!!! Been waiting for this interview to drop. 😊
@andrewaposhian264
@andrewaposhian264 Год назад
Thank you so much for this podcast! Thank you, Olav for your openness, and thank you, Rich, for letting him go into details! Yes, please do a part 2, and part 3, and part 4 etc! As an age grouper triathlete, this is so fascinating and helpful.
@paulboston6820
@paulboston6820 Год назад
Great episode...always love when you have endurance athletes and coaching sharing how they are elevating human performance. When is Goggins coming back on?
@CAIrondad
@CAIrondad Год назад
Love it…. This is one interview I have looked forward to so thank you so much! But Rich, this reminds me once again of the interview with Lance a few years back. The table you used then was way, way better. More personal. This one now is insanely long. Why??? Please go back. 😬😳😎
@VogtJurgen
@VogtJurgen Год назад
Fantastically interesting discussion. Thank you.
@PatrickDelorenzi
@PatrickDelorenzi Год назад
Another banger RRP episode 👌👌Thank you 🙏
@gjgferreira
@gjgferreira Год назад
fantastic thanks for sharing knowledge greetings from Portugal
@brianm3924
@brianm3924 Год назад
Fantastic episode Rich Roll.
@sefintri
@sefintri Год назад
Lo esperaba hace meses, Thanks you Nice job and interview
@lizzobeach5179
@lizzobeach5179 Год назад
Great conversation! Thanks to both of you for letting us watch. And I cannot agree more about ignoring the Whoop before heading out for a big training day and definitely before races. So many times I’ve also gone out and then dumped out only to find I was high green or to have an amazing day and find out I was red. Great to hear that perhaps it is perhaps not the clear marker of what is to come as much as it is something to look at over time.
@wanieeka2867
@wanieeka2867 Год назад
😅 24:53 😅
@chmart
@chmart Год назад
Awesome, thank you!
@MrMattMcC
@MrMattMcC Год назад
Can't wait for this!!
@KlemenSuligojTri
@KlemenSuligojTri Год назад
Oh man, this is gonna be awesome!!
@spencemaddy
@spencemaddy Год назад
This episode is Gold!
@glywnniswells9480
@glywnniswells9480 Год назад
Why ignore Norways epic 400m hurdler and their 1500m runner plus these two untoucheable triathletes. Thats 4 athletes suddenly out of Norway smashing the world to bits. What Iden and Blumi are to triathlon their 400m hurdler is even more insane.
@oliverreithsrensen7062
@oliverreithsrensen7062 Год назад
And you dont even know how dominating they are in biathlon and cross-country skiing
@charliesmusic270
@charliesmusic270 Год назад
The hits keep coming!😊
@annac3514
@annac3514 Год назад
Another fantastic interview sans silly questions. I reckon, there will some day be a book or perhaps a data-driven app with biofeedback loops.
@CiPoMaXa
@CiPoMaXa Год назад
very interesting. Thank you
@danellis9385
@danellis9385 Год назад
It'd be interesting to see how morning light affects performance, or music or sound.
@andreaskvrner4508
@andreaskvrner4508 Год назад
Olav is on another level of smartness
@abegoldberg4030
@abegoldberg4030 Год назад
Awesome!!
@cicaizrogace8054
@cicaizrogace8054 Год назад
Vredi slušati ljude koji imaju vrhunske rezultate.
@matthewfoote12
@matthewfoote12 Год назад
Waited 728 episodes for this
@ericjou094
@ericjou094 Месяц назад
Do you have a video about the tool needed for amateur and sports endurance athletes, thanks again
@letransformateur6477
@letransformateur6477 Год назад
Greetings from Bergen!
4 месяца назад
1:31 is the most important section to me. How you feel is the most significant Predictor. No need to micro manage I think
@RXP91
@RXP91 Год назад
Excellent stuff! If Blood lactate tests are in mmol so a volume measure but since HR drifts up during dehydration as blood volume decreases - blood lactate is still a good measure of training zone as you're having to work harder for the same power output. The more I read and watch on devices to train - the more I realise the talk test and heart rate is superior to any power measurement. It's a real physiological measurement that responds to the internal state. A watt simply isn't a watt in physiology I've started to use HRV overnight to make sure I don't cross into the threshold for my long activities. Seiler states that crossing into Z3 is almost like a binary switch for the autonomic nervous system. If my HRV stays constant or increases I know I didn't cross the threshold.
@PhiyackYuh
@PhiyackYuh Год назад
You need to marry external and internal load. Thats where aerobic coupling comes into play. Seilers polarised wont work to your average punter who are time crunched. Those polarised work if you have 20+ hours a week training.
@tomaszjankowiak3777
@tomaszjankowiak3777 Год назад
I have questions: 1. How has increased the aerobic and anaerobic performance (vo2max etc) of Blu and Iden since 2015? 2. What is the intensity of the race on olympic distance, half ironman or full ironman? 3. Is it possible that during next olimpic race Norwegian will have 0 medals?
@Bicyclechris
@Bicyclechris Год назад
Put his training formula and all the variables that are being considered into ChatGPT and see if it tailors an app or training plan.😊
@Nrk4u
@Nrk4u Год назад
That’s what’s up. Love this stuff
@jmm0935
@jmm0935 Год назад
There is not one interview I have watched with Olav where I don't come away a smarter human being.
@bmp713
@bmp713 10 месяцев назад
Anyone have any links to the research he is referring to regarding heart size and stroke volume changing much more quickly than originally thought?
@jeandupont8145
@jeandupont8145 Год назад
awesome video ! Can i ask you if Gustav or Kris takes any suplemment like probiotic, omega3, vitaminD, creatine ? Or its just caffeine and carbs ? :p
@dailydoseofmedicinee
@dailydoseofmedicinee Год назад
wow👏
@Seby-biketrial
@Seby-biketrial Год назад
thank you so much !! Very interesting information, perspectives. It is like opening a hood of a revolutionary supercar and trying to understand how it actually works. Human body & human consciousness is a miracle. and a miracle is a miracle until you understand the science behind it. We are diving deeper into the mind of God - simple & complex at same time.
@buckmanriver
@buckmanriver Год назад
I wonder what the best way to optimize velocity in trail running. Specifically, ultra trail running in ranges greater than 50km?
@whomstd
@whomstd Год назад
+1
@FreshwaterManlyBeach
@FreshwaterManlyBeach Год назад
Love Triathlon and the athletes. This interviewer Rich Roll wants big money rolls in his pocket and bank account. All theatre. Olav is great. Learn heaps from him.
@TracKnGravelDeWd
@TracKnGravelDeWd 4 месяца назад
Is there an episode 2?
@Dmcsquared68
@Dmcsquared68 Год назад
Q1: what were some of your biggest mistakes and how did that affect your training plan going forward? Q2: talk about blood sugar levels during training using the meters and how that affects the performance in real time. Q3: is there any future in lactate meters during performance, like the blood sugar meters that currently in vogue?
@uroldrberry
@uroldrberry Год назад
So. Blood sugar during training shown to be pretty irrelevant. Yes Abbot has a working version of a combo blood sugar/lactate continuous meter. Sane issues as blood sugar. Lag exists so not great for rapid changes and more accurate than base testing protocols.
@xcskiing_universe
@xcskiing_universe Год назад
Olav takes good English to a new level
@lisawade8544
@lisawade8544 Год назад
I love the explanation of Vo2 max. As a nonathlete but a health nut, it's good to know I can focus on improving my 5-minute stamina.
@letsrelaxwithtexts2114
@letsrelaxwithtexts2114 Год назад
not a single takeway on this conversation
@beepbeepnj2658
@beepbeepnj2658 Год назад
A few weeks ago I was at the gym with my friend Jim Nasium, I had a 10 pound dumbbell near the front door and the manager asked if I was taking it home. I said the sign on the wall said free weights.
@bobdown5520
@bobdown5520 Год назад
Funny
@Mg67890BFF
@Mg67890BFF Год назад
Didn’t know Juergen Klop was into triathlons
@Nrk4u
@Nrk4u Год назад
Definitely not pathetic 😅
@Rob.Kisiel
@Rob.Kisiel 4 месяца назад
Norwegians are great at Nordic skiing...Highest Vo2max athletes in the world...Carry that down to triathlons and bang.....
@Nrk4u
@Nrk4u Год назад
Take note 📝 kids
@letsrelaxwithtexts2114
@letsrelaxwithtexts2114 Год назад
coach kavanagh all over again
@wowser44
@wowser44 Год назад
Everything is Fine, Death is Callin' some see it as a blessing, others as a warning Don't cheat yaself this time Homie without the moon there ain't no sunshine, Darling explore the journey you've been living in a castle yet stuck in the same territory what is eternity without a new discovery? HOLD hands with destiny imagination is flying without a fee but the earthly ride ain't free sad but true you can't learn what you can't teach and you can't go where you can't reach no way to translate what we haven't lived The price we pay is in direct proportion to the prize we might receive new experiences create new emotions healing words are shared by preachers pain and suffering are the teachers floating like a butterfly will get ya stung by a beast "It's not a virtue to be naive" Keep an eye for the bird with the key it has a childhood memory filled with harmony collaborating and cooperating provides self relief giving and taking without expectation call it perpetual meditation self reflection, subtle elebaration can't cut corners there's no small time dealers, just small performers serpent bites don't kill, venom does Choose your poison what's the word of the day daddy? "Poise" son Maintain your composure Here comes the shocker Death is a metaphor for mystical, not physical Let go and surrender "If we don't trust ourselves, we can't betray ourselves" Use logic and reason somebody said: "Where there's trust there's treason" 6 million ways to die choose looking at the mirror, that mask what the hero does at once, the joker does at last Ready to take a gamble to get ahead in the game of life? then go right ahead, shine forth Being real is the best deal can't fake courage nor patience what silence is to the meek and ancients self created sickness is to pity patients Nothing new under the sun "What has to be done will be done" The more we get betrayed, the better writer we become No need to start a senseless war we can always raise the bar a new star will continue to get eclipsed by a bigger star Yet there's enough darkness for all of us to shine No Time, No Space, No Pressure Who knows how to measure and mix pain with pleasure? The best courage arrives while crying We can start willingly by walking or crawling Whenever we're ready to accept the calling Death to an Old Self to create New Cells, New Mind, New energy and strength to feel more clever to feel Death at a deeper level until we meet the Devil, that Fool the ego caught up in the high-achieving, oriented society and sometimes feeling above it and other times were so driven by selfish impulsivity, we can't stop it social media is the platform for any prophet, poet and puppet Stubborn to feel authentic by dominating others compelling urge to attain mighty powers yet afraid to demonstrate their true self no confidence, no self control and no patience to deal with others Wherever you go, there you are you still gotta face it by yourself with no confidence, no self control and no patience it's those thoughts running around like mentally ill patients aggressions and pretensions Relentless Screaming Set Me Free There's no escape It all comes down to choice and responsibility Individuality and maturity Self interests vs Ethics sexual deviance vs morality humanity will never eliminate the necessity to crave more, to do more that disease called "more" more of this, more of that Always wishing for something else A wish come true - is when we don't desire to be at some place else Right here, right now we create our woe and our wow The time is now and Perhaps we ought to know we have the freedom to say "No" Is everything fine? It's only Freedom calling but to experience true liberation we gotta be filled with new found hope and inspiration and like William Blake said: "Nothing Outshines Imagination" How would it feel to be the engager to a numinous nature? Yet we cling to our Boldness and stubbornness What's an empress to a high priestess? "vanities of vanities, it's all vanity" craving sophistication and worldliness while the boneless pray for a bonus the boundless mind appreciates life and death because it's endless They say the truth hurts I'll never forget Mircea Eliade's quote: "The opposite of life is not death, it's rebirth." FGirius flowin
@fernandog.aguirre2791
@fernandog.aguirre2791 Год назад
Be awarded that such a big performance and the effort it could end up with the life of this young talented human beings. This is getting OUT of normal human physiology!,
@battshytkrazy156
@battshytkrazy156 Год назад
🤯👊🔥💥💢🥵
@fmcdomer
@fmcdomer Год назад
Is it me? I couldn’t learn a single thing in the first hour
@zikaperic2133
@zikaperic2133 Год назад
Yeah it sounds very generic
@VogtJurgen
@VogtJurgen Год назад
I learned that teamwork, culture, discipline etc are often more important than the science. The culture forms the foundation that you build the crafted training plans on.
@markolim8938
@markolim8938 Год назад
Yes. And basically from 1:00 to 1:05:30 all he said was keep your easy days easy. Most coaches would say the same. Kinda confirms that 80-90% easy- principle still holds
@markolim8938
@markolim8938 Год назад
Yes. And basically from 1:00:00 to 1:05:30 all he said was keep your easy days easy. Most coaches would say the same. Just confirms that 80-90% easy -principle still holds?
@jensonvaughan
@jensonvaughan Год назад
Not just you at all. Long winded and meandering.
@V0skAnian
@V0skAnian Год назад
To be honest, let Kristian and Gustav train with Dan Lorang, or other good coaches, they would still be the best and maybe even perform better. Sam Laidlow was faster than Kristian.... I think it's more the work ethic, atmosphere they are training in that are making them so good than the training method. #SORRYNOTSORRY
@brunospasta
@brunospasta Год назад
So, I might be pre-judding here. But I am 5 min in the video and instead of letting the guest and expert speak I mostly hear the host trying to showcase his opinons on a topic and proceeding without even asking a real question... I hate this if podcast hosts do that :(
@ivanjeremija9180
@ivanjeremija9180 Год назад
Don't ask them about blood doping- that's considered impolite in the world of pro endurance athletes!😂
@Menstral
@Menstral Год назад
I was shocked to hear such a backward opinion on supplements, especially after the analogy of the electric car not charging completely. Micronutrients are often depleted over time.
@tiki-turin
@tiki-turin Год назад
I was fascinated to see Gustav Iden just downing food he liked (e.g. salami on bread etc) rather than adhering to some scientifically thought out next level nutritional program when he had his breakfast at his training camp (on RU-vid) ...I also remember a great Norwegian (World Champ) Nordic ctoss country skier in the late 90s early 2000s (Thomas Alsgaard) who also loved downing pizza during his training..makes me.wonder, is diet and nutrition still overlooked by these guys or is it looked at by others too much?...surely if you add scientifically proven methods on diet for recovery and diet to fuel yourself there is another level these guys can go to?...or maybe the athlete can underperform if he/she doesnt like those kind of diets ..let the athelete eat what they want and be satisfied rather than a one size fits all approach to sports diets .. horses for courses etc? Just thinking 🤔
@gestell
@gestell Год назад
Hopefully clean... seriously doubt it!
@manextube
@manextube Год назад
I wouldn't put a dime on them being clean
@concretejungle9608
@concretejungle9608 Год назад
Genetics - that’s “what’s going on” in Norway 😅 It’s hilarious to observe non- north Europeans try to figure out how those natural for that genetic group results can be artificially manufactured outside of it.
@Samuel-bu7xr
@Samuel-bu7xr Год назад
He didn't mention the drugs part though...
@bartez2366
@bartez2366 Год назад
Exactly they are all doing it. Why lying 🤥 all the time.
@vnys
@vnys Год назад
Because everyone who excel at something must be cheating
@joeromano507
@joeromano507 Год назад
F*ck I hadn’t even thought about it! LOL 💯
@alicequayle4625
@alicequayle4625 Год назад
If they are all doing then it won't be giving them an advantage.
@Samuel-bu7xr
@Samuel-bu7xr Год назад
@@alicequayle4625 ahh, you my friend have found a way to enjoy professional sport despite it's shortcomings. I congratulate you. Individual response is variable. Access to new compounds often defines success in endurance sports. Doping isn't an even playing field, just like training developments, drugs get better too, or at least, less detectable.
@dailydata903
@dailydata903 Год назад
Questions to long and complicated.
@Balkac
@Balkac 10 месяцев назад
Because I don't have a girlfriend and I consider my chances a tiny bit higher when I don't look like complete crap. Easy as that.
@gordonkocher5872
@gordonkocher5872 9 месяцев назад
None of this counts all his athletes are on EPO… these guys are all liars
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