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In this video we'll have a casual conversation about why hunter pets aren't very exciting right now. But! We'll also talk about how we could improve on what needs to be addressed! We can only hope Blizzard sees this 🤞🤞 until next week, good hunting!
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@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
WOAH! Check out these BATTLE-WORN pets! --> ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fewOMwabe6s.html
@henrychurch6062
@henrychurch6062 3 года назад
Hey, just discovered your videos about a week ago. I main druid and only casually play hunter, but I like how you break things down for people like me who haven't much experience with the class yet.
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Thanks mate! Glad I could help 🤙🤙
@notunremarkable
@notunremarkable 3 года назад
Love the idea of raising your own pet. Would be a really interesting feature with plenty of replayability.
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Right! 👌
@zimattack9994
@zimattack9994 3 года назад
it would be fun if engineering could build a mechanical pet and giveing them weapons like buzz saw or lasers and more unique abilities like a damage to health convertor. I gess what im saying it make mechanical more like poppy from xenoblade chronicles 2
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
@@zimattack9994 Ooooh thats a cool idea too! 🤘🤘
@scottjames7243
@scottjames7243 3 года назад
As long as it not as tedious as Ark Survival Evolved!
@Argosh
@Argosh 3 года назад
You mean like when we needed to level up our pets from whatever level we caught them at?
@kalikid021
@kalikid021 3 года назад
I think what you really want is talent trees for each pet class, that allows for customization of abilities. This would make it easier to be able to have the model you like, and have better synergy/utility for your choice of pet with talent trees based on the class of pet.
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Yeah thats a good ass idea too, I would NOT mind that at all
@Wowzombie15
@Wowzombie15 3 года назад
This video was great, I agree with many of the changes, but I have some ideas -make worms a non exotic, why? Cuz they are just worms, a hydra is more exotic and we can use it in SV or MM -give all hunter specs a item, similar to hati, which lets us mount our pets, same functionality -we need some of the old abilities from Cata -let us change specs again, I want to use the model I love, not one that I don’t really love cuz it is better overall Keep up the good work, and I hope people would like these ideas
@DaMcGamer
@DaMcGamer 3 года назад
As usual very cool. Agree 100% on making more variety in pets. One thing that makes me go back and play Classic - having to find, train, level and feed a pet. Learning new abilities to teach it, etc. Love those aspects of being a hunter (can skip the dead zone and carrying arrows!!!). It just would be awesome IF Blizzard had devs that play hunters to actually rework the hunter pet specials. For BM hunters are pets are such a crucial part of our play, it really deserves better attention than it gets (still need more hp in pvp imho). Raising pets would be fun - even if there was a potential to fail (gotta give Blizz that RNG...), but it would add a ton of fun for hunters. Other games that you have to level/raise (ArchAge had a fun system for pets/mounts - they had to be out while you were in combat to gain xp). Special abilities - I'd be happy if they'd revert back to some of the BfA ones - like Spectrals with Spirit Pulse - change that back! But do agree - the ones with weak specials, I don't even consider using them. My fondest hope - Cheetah speed on a shorter CD or on-use with the daze - I'll take my chances!
@SmilinJoey
@SmilinJoey 3 года назад
I’m a relatively new player (about a month and a half) and I really appreciate your videos. You helped me find my bearings in this very confusing albeit fun game lol :)
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Glad I could help! 🤙🤙
@deadpewl5231
@deadpewl5231 3 года назад
Congrats on the anniversary m8! Great video!
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Thank you and thank you! 🙏🙏
@jeffreyarnold2626
@jeffreyarnold2626 3 года назад
i have no idea who the dev was for hunters in mop, but they clearly loved the class. raising a pet with abilities? interesting idea, but then you're essentially transmogging your pet. i really wish exotics went back to being the cool, unusual pets that had very useful abilities as before. most are rares, long spawn timers, take extra effort, or research to find.i think blizz is trying to make us a single target class.i been watching the direction of recent nerfs, stat priority, and ability changes. i prefer the cleave.
@edgyz0mb1e
@edgyz0mb1e 3 года назад
Dude mop was probably my favorite expansion just because of that lmao
@rusthealer5491
@rusthealer5491 3 года назад
I knew these were good ideas when i thought, huh why aren't some of these ideas already in game. Also we need to raise our own pets!
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Thank you! Yeah it would just make sense, I just don't think blizzard is dedicating their resources to the right places nowadays.
@1stmaterayleigh500
@1stmaterayleigh500 3 года назад
Extremly good Ideas. Would add that Survial should be able to learn some exotic pets. The borrow attack from the worms makes so much more sense for a survial hunter. Special abilities that push your Focus regeneration just a small amout. I want some pet that has the ability to attach his self to the enemy. Making minimal damage but causing combinations of debuffs. Chanching absolutly the way the enemy must react. To raise your own pet would be nice but it would unbalance damage to much in my opinion. Over all amazing vid
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Hell yeah great ideas!
@carlosabrigojr3482
@carlosabrigojr3482 3 года назад
Congrats on having your channel for a year.. newly subbed.. I really hope they do rework some of the abilities on some pets. I feel like a lot of my pets will never see the light of day and just chill in my stables. Lol. I love love love the edit your pets idea.. I hope Blizz is listening.. I know the garrisons are not popular but I wish they would show pets as well as the mounts at the stables.. just saying..
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Thanks Carlos! Glad to have you on the crew 🤙🤙 and dude, I hope blizzard is listening too 🙏 cuz at this point I'm ready to full dive back into destiny 2 😬
@Zetsu941
@Zetsu941 3 года назад
Some sort of Pet Trainer/Master as a NPC who allow you to swap Pet Specs/Spells/passives would be a good idea.
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
That'd be cool!
@peterblake8673
@peterblake8673 3 года назад
I wouldn’t be keen on anything that forces me to choose a certain pet model. I already feel like I must bring a ferocity pet to group content for primal rage. There are loads of cool models in the cunning and tenacity trees. It seems that the only place that I have true freedom of choice is the second pet for BM. Your pick and mix suggestion would fix that as it decouples the model from the tree and its abilities. While providing more content for the Hunter class, I like it.
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Totally! Only problem is in PvP. If the enemy can't identify what your pet does it would kinda fck sht up 🤷‍♂️ nevertheless, I still want it lol
@peterblake8673
@peterblake8673 3 года назад
@@xBLUMONKEY I guess a pet transmog system would ‘fix’ my issue. Perhaps the original model would have to show in pvp?
@annhenry6056
@annhenry6056 3 года назад
I have learned so much from watching your videos. Very cool.
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
That IS cool 🤙 glad I could help, friend 🙏
@piratenmeutern6473
@piratenmeutern6473 3 года назад
BIGG THX for ur hard work and the amazing Hunter Videos Blue!! i realy love ur videos, allways fun to watch and i learned a lot!! Cheers Mate! ^_^ Greetings MrPirato
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Thanks!! Glad you enjoyed yourself 😊😊
@jeffreyfarwell1152
@jeffreyfarwell1152 3 года назад
Spirit mend returned would be nice the Battle rezz also. stay safe and healthy everyone
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Definitely! Or at least buffing spirit mend a little so solo players can at least benefit from it enough to take a spirit beast again
@scottjames7243
@scottjames7243 3 года назад
Blu i hit 60 2 days ago already earning epics from Raid Finder lol. I haven't watched the video yet but i can tell you i had not played since Legion and i was so disappointed with the way they reworked pet abilities. So many unique and very useful abilities just gone, like having the option for a battle res made hunter just more useful. It feels like the same mistake Destiny made with D2 at launch....water everything down and make it all uniform(maybe to try to balance competitive pvp). All that does is take the fantasy and flavor from the game, making it less fun and exciting imho! Love the content!
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
100% agree! Its funny you said that I've actually been playing a lot of d2 recently
@scottjames7243
@scottjames7243 3 года назад
@@xBLUMONKEY I've been thinking about redownloading. I haven't played since they made the changes.
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Its a whole new game. More rounded out and complete than d1 even
@shawnamoore4831
@shawnamoore4831 3 года назад
What I'd like to see is for a hunter's pet that is both a mount and a pet. It could be something that you could quest for the ability to make one of your pets mountable. I would so ride my Somberdawn into battle.
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
💯💯💯 you could do this with Hati but thats it, but yeah somber dawn would be a dope one for sureeee 🤙🤙
@robertgriffith3139
@robertgriffith3139 3 года назад
Revert pets back to legion. Also, give us blink strikes as a baked in class ability purely as mobility help so we have less issues with pathing.
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
💯💯💯
@Argosh
@Argosh 3 года назад
I guess the true problem is that hunters can have 5 different kinds of pets. So if you buff one niche use on all it basically becomes a general all around buff as soon as people cheese pet switches. Blizz aren't gonna let skill impact damage...
@BrezyMight
@BrezyMight 3 года назад
I just made hunter I feel like it be cool if other specs can do class hall but I get it.
@wuguxiandi9413
@wuguxiandi9413 3 года назад
Anything other than Ferocity is essentially gimping yourself currently. Ferocity is better at tanking than Tenacity pets... And I was super excited to hear that Cloud Serpents were going to be tameable, as I play Pandaren and have wanted one since MoP. however, those majestic, magically flying mythical creatures...are put in with common snakes. Cloud Serpents...the creatures that fought back the Zandalari hordes and were seen as worth of the Dragonmaw clan...don't get their own pet family. Stuck as Cunning pets, when they are really more of a Ferocity type in the lore. /end rant
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Yup! Its basically fcked lol
@neversalty
@neversalty 3 года назад
While I agree that people are very unlikely to take the stone guardian in PvP overall having NO cooldown on their exotic ability would just mean your pet just revives itself over and over again which would indeed be really annoying in PvP given that a big strat in arena, especially against BM/survival hunters, is to kill their pet first. Having a stone hound infinitely reviving itself would be sort of annoying and while it's significantly more beneficial to run a cunning or maybe even a ferocity pet, having no CD on that revive ability would be super tilting/hard to deal with.
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
I agree, but still stand by my point. It WOULD be tilting and hard to deal with. But you also wouldnt be getting DPSd as hard or CCd as often. Maybe NO colldown goes too far, but what I'm vouching for here is a little variety instead of HAVING to take 1 of 2 pets 🤷‍♂️ nam'sayin'? 😋
@neversalty
@neversalty 3 года назад
@@xBLUMONKEY I would definitely be down for a much shorter cd. 8m is definitely 100% overkill. That I'm sure we can all agree on.
@crickitschultz5397
@crickitschultz5397 3 года назад
i have used water walking tons of times very useful
@kfl_ink
@kfl_ink Год назад
Pet cosmetics and cosmetic changes would be awsome
@simpioustv4882
@simpioustv4882 3 года назад
My question is why the hell is the best tank pet a ferocity and not a tenacity spec???
@septuzwillz5936
@septuzwillz5936 3 года назад
That's good ideas.like cat id get ride of prowl and up grade a dif spec.hate prowl I think it's stupid .but know it's the for a reason..
@wrennable
@wrennable 3 года назад
Ok. First, we need hunter’s mark fixed. Does anyone in PVE even use this? Second, the raise your own pet thing is excellent, but instead of picking appearance I would want to see it locked to a choice of 4 species akin to your character’s race. However, I would like to see us have customization options for this. Obviously high quality models. I would love to raise a cleft hoof that’s got Tauren Totems on it for my horde hunter. I would love for my night elf hunter to have a night saber equipped with some night elf/Elune stylized armor. I think the exotic category should go. Give access to these pets to all specs. I think BM should just get access to TWO special abilities if they’re running two pets. Also give BM an overall pet buff to better than MM/SV pets. Not much, but slight and noticeable. I think it’s stupid that BM can cast all abilities on the move... this should be on marksman because they are typically without a pet. Survival should get access to all bow abilities in their spell book through the hand crossbow they use for kill shot. I would also like to see MM & BM get a melee knife ability that stuns the target for 5 seconds in PVE, 3 seconds in PVP so the hunter can escape. This could be on a 2 minute CD or something. Maybe SV should get a 1 minute CD because melee? I would take this as a talent that REPLACES disengage. Yeah, I said it.
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Damn those are all good ideas 🤔
@aaronbrungardt2917
@aaronbrungardt2917 3 года назад
Everyone has the same things or use the same strategy these days. Customization has always been frowned upon by WOW. They are getting better about it, so hopefully pets are not too far off. I'd like to bring talent trees back. It would be great to see some abilities just do more. But it seems these days most play BM with a pair of clefthoofs. I think of them as the "new bear", because at one time that's about all there was for tank pets.
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Absolutely. Yeah clefthooves are basically our only option rn for tank/solo pets. In BFA at least spirit beasts were viable for solo players 🤷‍♂️ shoulda mentioned the spirit mend nerf in this video, oh well
@aaronbrungardt2917
@aaronbrungardt2917 3 года назад
@@xBLUMONKEY Just had a thought. WOW did make one thing recently that was cool for hunters, the tomes to tame direhorns, blood beasts, feathermanes, mechanical pets, and undead. It was fun to have something to go after again. That's what the Legion expansion was all about with the class halls, giving us hunters specific things to do that pertained to our class and I hope they go back to that and make us go on a challenging hunt for our pets.
@RobSassi
@RobSassi 3 года назад
Imagine breeding for pets is like how it's done in Pokemon. You mix two different pets for the chance of passing abilities to the egg?
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Ooh that would be sick!
@ronaldchin3239
@ronaldchin3239 3 года назад
Why would you ask Blizzard to nerf Beast Cleave? Knowing them, they will not listen to any of your good suggestions and just nerf bm even more. Its nutz. Have you seen where bm sits on the logs?
@crank279
@crank279 3 года назад
Well it would be nice idea yes, to create you're own unique pet. With Like condiuts system along with it. To skill up you're pet. And add like feral cat skins. Or be able to modify you're pet. In my opinion I'll rather see blizzard should stop working on another expansion for some time and instead work on in game modifications options . So you can modify you're character and so for pets. So like transmog for individual looks. Like say add two color fur. Or change eye colors of you're pet. Just in the limits it can be. Or add a pet that you can fly as a flying mount. And no not eye 0f the beast. But just flying ability Or a hunter pet that you can both ride and use as pet of course. I just don't get it why blizz onley so it seems to focus on expansion it self were it would be a great idea is to rather focus on game it self. Create more Battle ground. The garrison should also have bin combined in story as well. And have you're own stable in youre garrison and you see a number of you're pets walking. It's just idea.
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
💯💯💯 I agree with everything you said here
@Joshua-ix4bh
@Joshua-ix4bh 3 года назад
Instant res with no cooldown? So why not just remove their health and make them immortal? Seems like a bad idea
@ismaeldeleija8165
@ismaeldeleija8165 3 года назад
Very good video!
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Thanks! 💙
@Smokie1523
@Smokie1523 3 года назад
I agree. Pets are bland and boring anymore since they made them all the same with similarly useless exotic abilities. But i still think the core hounds are just as good as clefthoofs. They have 50% damage reduction on a 1 min cd, while the clefthoofs is 2 minutes for 50% or 60% reduction. While the hounds lack the extra armor and healing increase, i feel like the shorter cd on their big defensive brings them pretty much in line with each other as best tank pets. That said the heals you can get from the leech that ferocity pets bring by keeping mend pet rolling are worth mentioning. Its especially powerful with 2 clefthoofs if youre using the 2 pet talent in the first row. Paired with camo, u can heal quite a bit, quite fast, and all while stealthed. Feign death, camo, then mend pet and watch your health go right back up to full in no time.
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
I completely agree! Except on one thing tho... When you use Animal Companion your pets both basically do 60% of their normal damage. Which is good, you're basically getting 120% damage. But only your primary pet benefits from it's pet spec & abilities. Meaning only one clefthoof would get the leech, and since it's technically doing LESS damage you'll end up getting less leech. Test it out with just 1 clefthoof 👌 but yeah I actually just quit WoW recently, they're doing nothing for us and it's just not fun anymore. I'd rather have no game to call home than call WoW my home at this point lmao
@Smokie1523
@Smokie1523 3 года назад
@@xBLUMONKEY oh i cant say i blame you. I quit when bfa was out and didnt cone back till a few months ago, so im only just getting the burnout. But as far as satisfaction wuth blizzard as a company and how they run the game, that just doesnt exist. Its as if they are actively TRYING to ruin the game.
@izi193
@izi193 3 года назад
Congratulations 🥳
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Thank you! 🙏
@crickitschultz5397
@crickitschultz5397 3 года назад
and they still have updraft just checked
@siralswidi
@siralswidi 3 года назад
u think blizzard listened to you when u talked about pharadatyl? cuz they are returning updraft
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Are they really? I didn't hear! Fuck I hope so lol its all over the internet but I like to think I played a part 😋
@hannoverfist5628
@hannoverfist5628 3 года назад
hey kids....is it possible to create macros that include abilities from different pets? i strap my main attacks to pet attacks to try and cut down on down time for pets.......but all my macros are currently for devilsaurs.....so would it make any difference if i added attacks of other pets onto the macros ? or do i need all new macros for each type pet?
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
hey sorry for the late response! you can put em all in one macro like #showtooltip Cobra Shot /cast Claw /cast Smack /cast Bite /cast Cobra Shot if the command CAN'T be used, it just skips the line. This way you can cover all your pets basic attacks 👌👌
@hannoverfist5628
@hannoverfist5628 3 года назад
@@xBLUMONKEY ....thanks man. This may help up my game from awful to bad.... :)
@NinoBrown3025
@NinoBrown3025 3 года назад
hunter pets need to be more unique i dont like they all do the same baseline dmg they need to go back to when certain pets did more dmg than others, i also think bm pets especially exotic ones need much more powerful than just regular pets
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
You'd love this video, I talked about this stuff last week: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LzUuwXXB8o8.html I don't think some pets should do more damage, that would just make other pets obsolete and pointless. What I think we need is more pet abilities and ways to customize our builds using pets 👌
@NinoBrown3025
@NinoBrown3025 3 года назад
@@xBLUMONKEY well what I mean is dps pets shouldn’t do the same dmg as tank pets and yes some pets would fall under the useless category but it’s a lot of pets under that category already I just like the old style wear certain pets was used for certain roles ie pvp, solo tanking, dps...now bm exotic pets feel no different than mm pets it’s not much that separates them imo
@izi193
@izi193 3 года назад
Agreed!
@SupSimba
@SupSimba 3 года назад
i like the ideas, but i think pets need a nerf in PvP , their so OP its fighting 3 on 1...2 DPS and a ranged....i can understand it but just want a way to fight them, maybe a trinket that dispells them for or reduces dmg.....their so many different options for pets... slow + bleed you'll beat anyone feels like...i know DH are weak but dang...lol
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
against BM you gotta save the CC's for the pets, fears, stuns, roots, slows, charms, sleeps, trinkets literally everything you got lol hardest for us hunters is stuff like mass entanglement or even AoE slows
@SupSimba
@SupSimba 3 года назад
@@xBLUMONKEY i wanna complain so bad mannnnn...but i respect a good hunter there so well versed. Thanks for the tips tho! ima try that....i dont even try TBH when i get run over by a T-rex and a dang venomous snake while being shot at distance .... *cries internally* hahaha good times... 😁
@unholyscream69
@unholyscream69 3 года назад
which curia is better for the BM pvp?
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Curia?
@unholyscream69
@unholyscream69 3 года назад
@@xBLUMONKEY which covenant is better for the bm pvp?
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Either venthyr or kyrian depending on your playstyle my friend 👌
@masterblaster5078
@masterblaster5078 3 года назад
nerf beastcc leave is bed we already have shitty aoe the target cap now we going force change pet M+ dungeons on bosses to even more slower runns
@siralswidi
@siralswidi 3 года назад
itruee .. they need do make pets special again bruh. there all the same right now
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
💯💯💯
@sinnis4993
@sinnis4993 3 года назад
Why nerf beast cleave? Just buff those pets, lol.
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Yeah I put that in the video in text during the editing process 😋 I just want an actual reason to pick a certain pet instead of taking one prt everywhere with me. Technically we have variety but I think the system is lacking 🤷‍♂️
@sinnis4993
@sinnis4993 3 года назад
@@xBLUMONKEY tbh after I watched the whole video, I agree with the last part. Let us customize our own pet.
@xBLUMONKEY
@xBLUMONKEY 3 года назад
Yay! I've convinced someone haha though all of these ideas might not work in practice, i just would like to see a rework with a bit more variety and incentive yo choose and tame other models nahhmean?
@riggslong1817
@riggslong1817 3 года назад
Bring back pet feeding and happiness!
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