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I guess we took those gem deals on Milsurp Flea Market buys for granted. In the late 80's to mid 90's, a perfect SKS could be had for $85, a Mosin Nagant was $65 and my favorite Swiss K31 was $125. That rifle you just unboxed would have been in a trash can with a "FREE" sign on it.

I've gotten into the habit of restoring rifles that are basically lost causes. Recently brought an Arisaka and Kar98 back to life, both were considered to be basically gone, for parts only guns. Both are up and firing now, lethally accurate.

This was definitely a roller coaster from the start, those Spanish Mausers are a diamond in the rough… or tar Pitt maybe? That enfield was beyond trashed.

Years ago, I bought a Swede M38 stock from Hunter's Lodge. I paid extra for the range chart on the stock. I received a stock with an old crack all the way through the butt stock, and 2/3 of a range chart. The other 1/3 had been scraped off through use. I will never order from them again.

Before trashing the wood, take the metal off, then spray the wood with Easy Off, use a hose and a rag (outside of course). Continue the cycle till the easy off lifts off nothing, then hose the wood down with water, wipe with a clean rag, then hose it again and dry the wood for 40 hours. You may find unit markings of historical value. Do not reattach any metal parts until after the wood has dried. Spain re-barreled their 1916s to 7.62 NATO, not to .308, so if it actually says .308 Winchester, that was someone else, not Spain doing the re-barreling. Run a head space gauge before using. Also check the chamber for pits, roughness, etc. Or just rebarrel them back to 7x57, your choice. Check also C&Rsenal and Forgotten Weapons for their videos on Spanish Mausers.

That last Mauser kinda reminds me of my Yugo M48! Thanks for sharing unboxings are always fun and we appreciate the honesty with what you received.

I’m not gonna lie, I’m actually blown away of how well they packaged your order. The last one I received came in a vacuum cleaner box with saw dust and old news paper as packing material. 😂 Yeah they absolutely burn their clients on shipping charges. Glad your guns turned out decent!

The roller coaster sight on the Spanish Mauser was original for the original cartridge they switched to the spitzer round then they switched most of them out to a tangent sight . Yours has the original magazine with the release button at the bottom that's a pretty good score man.

Good to know hunters lodge dallys in sending the merchandise. 90 days is a bit much. Good to know they gouge on shipping too. Thats really bad business.

When I was a kid you could find barrels with 303 British mark 4’s at Gibsons for $45.00 each. But that was a good bit of money then. I’m kinda old. Dang surplus firearms have gone crazy.

The people at hunter's lodge are geniuses instead of hauling their garbage to the dump. They put it in a catalog and sell it to people like you

Hunters Lodge has a long fine tradition of such things.

I had a Spanish Mauser converted to 7.62 nato, it could not handle the pressure, in fact the lugs set back in the receiver and the bolt jammed. I cut the receiver off and yes I could see the lug imprints. I sold the parts, I think I still have the stock. Just a warning, you don’t want excessive headspace and a head separation.

Thanks for this. I was really looking forward to seeing this update! And thanks for saving us all the trouble :-) Congrats on the 8mm, nice!

Thanks for doing this video...I often wondered about them but was always too nervous to buy anything. And people thought RTI was bad...

What I , from my dad is a Spanish 7mm Calvary carbine , the stock has been slightly sportized , the original sling swivel mounts have been nicely filled in and the stock wood fore end shortened . Wish it had the original stock any way at a gun show I bought the shirt rifle M 1916 listed as 7mm Mauser . When arrived home and disassemble it I found out it was converted to 7.62 x 51 NATO , no big deal , I just bought a M 1916 in the 7mm Mauser . Need only to acquire the long rifle . Thanks for the unboxing review of your rifles

The Spanish 1916 sight is the type 1 sight originally used for the 1916s. My barreled action has that same sight. The tangent style sight was the type 2 rear sight.

That Mauser with the 1922 date stamp is actually an unmodified rifle, and is most likely still chambered in the 7X57 cartridge.

Got an SKS last year that spent 40 years in cosmoline. Heat gun and brake cleaner will help alot.

It looks like they were cleaning out the far reaches of their basement. That shipment would have made me quite disappointed. But, you are an eternal optimist, I guess. If I had numerous old military rifles and needed a bunch of used parts, then maybe I, too, would be excited. Thanks for making this video and sharing this experience with us. I hit the thumb's up and subscribed, so for a brief moment I was your newest "family" member.

I wouldn't doubt if that enfield was in the hands of a dead man at one point

I ran across some of that black tar lookin stuff on a Mauser once. I took a towel and an iron and it would get it gummy enough to scrape off. Mercy it was a long rough task but I still have that 35dollar Mauser and it makes me smile when I look at it and she's a sweet shooter. I could be wrong but I think it's cosmoline exposed to high heat. Best of luck restoring those it's alot of work but it's very rewarding. Oh if they could speak the tales they could tell! Y'all stay safe and God bless.

The 1916 should have an op in front of the serial number. They were converted to 7.62X51 NATO in Spain when the Spanish adopted the CETME rifle in 1957. It might have a nice barrel.

FR8 and cetme bayonet Good packing job, commission stock, check with Sarco. I've cleaned up worse on enfields. May be worth the 189 they ask..... Spanish 1916 not too bad.....You may have sold several 43s for them, lol. Nice. I certainly need a couple Spanish mausers. You didn't strike gold but you did decent.

Wow, rough stuff , good luck with your restoration attempts! You're bayonet appears to be a Spanish CETME bayonet.

Anyone can ship long guns USPS. Licensed dealers (not 03 Collectors) can ship handguns USPS Priority Mail if you submit a USPS Form 1508 at the Post Office where you ship them. It's a very simple process and I prefer the service of the Post Office over UPS or FedEx.

the bayonet goes to a spanish cetme/h&k g3 type rifle they will also fit on a spanish fr7& fr8 mausers.

I know the vid is old but I did a lot or research into the M93/95 1916 pattern carbine, some were rechambered in 7.62 CETME not .308 Win or 7.62 NATO, the CETME was a lower pressure version of the NATO round and was meant for older model 1893 and 1895 receivers(and others) due to the poor metallurgy of the Spanish armories of the time, essentially the locking lugs could(and would) break off with an over pressured round like a lot of commercial .308. now with the sight and stock configuration yours "should" be a first pattern, but I have seen some where the parts were reused and converted to the CETME cartridge and used for training/transition until what we know as the CETME 58 or the CETME Model C. as far as the black stripe, that's the first I've seen one, Also a lot of M93/95 receivers that were left over were converted to the FRS-7 using the same 7.62 CETME round. now a rare bird is a German made M93 that survived Spanish service, not a lot of those were made before Oviedo took over production in Spain.

Interesting video. I like your positive outlook on some old guns that many people would write off completely. I also like that you're recognizing and making the most out of the charging market for Milsurp rather than just moaning about a situation that can't be changed. This is my first visit to your channel but I'll be looking at more of your videos in the future! Cheers from Ontario, Canada 🇨🇦!

Readiness Thanks for that video. I just might order one of the Spanish Mausers. I need a good project for this summer.

The Spanish Mausers made up for the, other two grease pipes sent.the bayonet used is a CETME bayo.

What we all paid 10 or 15 years ago has absolutely no bearing on what the market value/market price are today. Today is today.Yesterday is gone.

Will you possibly be ordering more from them in the future? Would love to see another video

I had bought a 1916 from SAMCO years ago, beautiful rifle but it was a jam-o-matic! Tried everything but no luck, finally sent it back and they returned my money. I ended buying (from someplace else) a all-matching (including bayo) K-11 Carbine

That No.4 Mk.1 forend looks like it might be worth cleaning up and saving. A wet cotton towel and a hot iron will loosen the crud then just wipe it off it takes days to get all the crud off and at least 48 hours after that before you can put the metal back on.

That 7:07 looks like 50 - 100 year old cosmoline that was stored in uncontrolled climatic conditions to me.

I love old pieces of junk like that as is or for a restore project but definitely buy one u can find parts for lol thanks for this vid

Hmm 🤔 This collection of parts would make a cool Bannerman rifle special.

The Spanish Mauser looks like it would be a fun shooter. Obviously an expert gunsmith should look it over before taking it to range. Assuming he or she gives it a thumbs up it looks like a great shootable rifle.

The bayonet you have is a m1964 Spanish cetme c bayonet. The cetme c is pretty much just a g3 with wood furniture

The 43 isn't too bad and matching bolt is a +. Still M1943 Spanish mausers are pretty common even in exc condition. The 1916 like said the early style sight is uncommon but overall finding a 1916 7mm cal with a good bore is hard most are washed out with the fine shallow rifling they used.

A couple of those look like grave finds or something salvaged from burnt out vehicles.

My gew 88 parts came today from the Hunt Lodge. Very well packed. same time frame as you. Condition similar to yours. At least you got the rear sight slider. I have a Turk mix master, so we will see what parts I can salvage off this.

Thanks for doing this...great vid! Your vids are a treasure to a newbie into surplus like me. That one looks to be fire damage...like it was pulled out of a building that burnt the ground. The black is from tar and fire yuck. Wish I was retired so I could try restoring ...i'd love to do that. Keep up the good work!

The Milsurp guys from decades past lived my dream. A dream that sadly died before I was even born.

Looks like you did pretty good man! That enfield should fix up pretty easy

Looks like that enfield spent twenty years next to a wood stove. Baked out the cosmoline though😂

That black paint stripe on there is usually indicative of a parade or drill only rifle. Although usually its red. Just a thought.

The black bands on the Spanish Mauser means “un-recycled garbage” in Spanish military training manual

I remember buying two of those from Roses back in the early 90 for 40 dollars a piece and they look like new after cleaning them up

ok last comment! hehe I am glad i came across yor channel as so far i have learned a lot and its ben very interesting hearing about the back story and history f each firearm! Cant wait for more? ;>) Oh and i believe those black strips on the one gun mean it was used for a dress gun for the presitential guard or so on? Political shows basically lol

No way I would order from Hunters Lodge Corp.

I have used Hunters lodge for over 10 years, 6 orders, slow shipping, but no issues. You did forget to mention the severe storms that had their power out for in excess on a week during your wait. Now I am going to have to grab an Enfield too.

The band on the stock most likely is a identafacation paint for the battalion or company, that was commonback in the day

Im not gonna lie, I remember a local classifieds ad for guns that went through a literal housefire and they were in better shape than the Enfield and 1888. Legitimately I wouldnt even classify these as "poor" or "gunsmith special" these are relic/wallhanger for parts. If I was running that company I wouldnt feel right selling this stuff, or at the least without clear pictures on a modern website. The fact they do the old timey drawn newspaper ads and dont take credit card (so you cant do a chargeback when you get screwed!) is super sus. Im not gonna test my luck with these clowns, RTI is where I draw the line with my gun gambling lol.

That coating might be called stoving. A jungle antirust coating used by the brits.

Spanish CETME bayonet, love it!

Wow, that is the worst non battlefieldmetal detector reluctant #4 I have ever seen. The damage is incredible. I have never seen that kind of injury to the receiver on an Enfield before, but the rest of the damage would go along with that I guess. It is hard for me to imagine guns in this condition bringing these prices, having had a C&R license in the early 2000s where I was buying worn but complete shooter ready Model 44 Nagants for as low as $39.95 from SOG and nice arsenal refinished 91/30s for $79.95. Enfield I good condition were $125.00 & a Yugo M-48 Mauser was $100.00. Fear of restrictive gun legislation got guns bought up to the point we are at today. Those Mausers aren't bad though. Most of the spray painted military rifles I have had were training rifles, but I have no idea what yours might have been painted for. Just my two cents thrown out there. Good luck with your projects.

I wish the Spanish Mauser was still in the original 7mm....its questionable whether .308 Win is too powerful for that small ring Mauser action. I'd stick to 7.62 Nato and not any high powered loads.

That is a langvizier rear sight. It is also used with a low light optical sight. Made to fit rear sight blade

Glad I bought all my milsurps like 20 years ago. When good ones were $80 lol.

But untill you try to find all of the parts to fix up those heaps(arduous and frustrating$$), you can go to a gun show and get a nice one for the same price. I enjoy your programs though.🏆

The 88 Commission is actually unaltered, no notch cut on the receiver, the Turkish did not get their hands on it, if the barrel goes down on a taper, it’s most likely the original.318 diameter. If reproduction parts are ever made, you may have something there.

That black coating really does look like tar. If it is wd40 actually cuts it very well. Best of luck!

That lower handguard wood on that enfield is worth some money if it's in good shape.

That gew 88 action was in better shape and more complete than usual. Get the bolt body and the trigger guard is not the norm in my experience.

Lol the test fire in different calibers and missing bolt piece

My Enfield Jungle Carbine had cosmoline outside and inside the rifle when I bought it In 1985 from a place in Long Island NY

That Enfield looks like an Ethiopian export? The bayonet is an FR-7/8 Bolero bayonet, I believe?

I bought a really nice Webley revolver in .380 (.38 S&W) from Hunters Lodge back in the early "90s. I'm going to take a wild guess that bayonet is a CETME.

I think you have got your work cut out for you!! ..Interesting project though..The lee Enfield looks like it was dug up from a field!

I'm sure someone has probably already said it, but if not that's a Spanish FR8/ CETME bayonet.

The bayonet looks like one of the versions of a Spanish bayonet made for a CETME battle rifle. I have one and you should see a crest mark from the armory in Toledo, Spain where it was forged on the blade if an original and what I think it is.

When your talking about paying over $100.00 for junk like that I'm just flabbergasted .

Wow !! Those first two were pretty bad… the last two are decent, but would I take the gamble? NO. But thanks for the post!

The packing material is worth more than the junk they sent.

I am a FFL and ship firearms USPS quite regularly(kegally) it's both cheaper and quicker abnd tracking is a big +?

Welcome to the gun nut world you know you love it.

f for respect taking one for the team

I will certainly NEVER order from them again. Got a revolver that was unsafe to shoot. Subsequently got repaired, but no warning was given.

That fire rifle aka the enfield is an insult to money you spent .. and 100$ for shipping

That Lee Enfield looks like its been in a gun safe that's been in a fire , but You never know what people try to preserve stuff .

Well the only thing i dont like to do is buy wall hangers. I do have two that were family alumes so i keep them. A pair of old Black Powder 12guage shotguns. SideXside's. Great looking gun but so old i wouldnt even attemtp to fire one in fear it would blowup! LOL But if i buy a project gun i plan to get it running for my collection and buy 500ds for it for storage for a later time as i will shoot each and every one when im done. So i would take the time and put in the effort to get all of those in working order! That last muaser really got me going! I would love to have another one that isnt as costly and less historic so i can use it as a shooter! I run in a circle that has comp shoots with era spcific guns ,like one time it must be a K98 or the next an Enfield No3 or what ever.....There are even about a dozon guys and gals that own the Japanese WWII rifles (since i cant spell it) hehe but most of us have WWII era guns that we use in the hat draw each month. There are 12 differen guns that could be picked from the hat. From Nagant's threw Euros and and Allied/Axis guns and so on. The shoots take about a week each month giving people a chance to run the course picked for the games.....hehe At times is shoot and scoot or long range static and nonstationary targets. its a blast! Locally here in our bluest of states in our red county we have grown the numbers of participants that what use ot take a day or two now takes a full week to play out!It actually costs 5bucks to join so there can be a few 1st, 2nd and 3rd place prizes. The local gun club we do it at suggested it and asked us if we wanted trophies or prizes and of course most of us wanted prizes. Over the last few yars the prizes have been pretty nice gear, or a scope for 1st ,red dot for 2nd and a set of irons and so on. Or camping gear and even ammo not and then and its a good time ot be had. The club loves it as well as they get to sell burgers and dogs and keep a food truck that makes funnle cakes and so on! like a mini carnaval. They even had face painters a few seaons for the kids. I just love the whole idea as it got me into collecting mil-surps at 1st just for the games but as i started off with the 1st few , i just loved them as i pay just enough to get a decent gun. I dont mind if its not one of those historical guns so that i can get a new stock because i dont care of the stock matches if it makes the gun not only shoot better, but look great! Right now i can only join three shoots a month as i only own a Mauser my grandfather took of a German solder ,either in North Africa or Italy? He brought back two and we just dont know which one was tkaen from which Continent ? lol One is a Nazi marked as such and the other is a VZ24 that had the Czech state emblem on it and had a faded Nazi eagle on it with the small swastica in its talons. Im not sure if it was a Naval rifle as its a bit shorter barreled and taken in Italy where a lot of German sailors lost their ships and were fighting on land where they were most needed. After Germany lost all control of the seas and most of the air it was all over. Im just happy to have the one i did get that was my Pop Pop's! LOL Then ihave a Nagant of course and the 3rd is a trap door 45/70 Army from the old west.Thats a replica which is allowed as some of the guns are just out of reach for the average person lol Mine holds 4rounds and was used by the U.S. army during the indian war as Custers men were carrying them and the Rosavelts charge of San Juan hill! So thats one class i guess you would call it? We even have a Black powder of the arms of the war of 1812 and so on. Its just great family fun ! We can take as children and supervise them while teaching them how to use a firearm as well as firearms safety! There are prizes and face painting and ice cream and games for the children to give parents time with the family and shoot over the course of the day and enjoy it all! Best of both fun worlds!!! This has inspired me my friend to maybe get a few of those broken guns as they are all the same to use parts from all three to make one functioning gun. Even if i still have ot buy the bolt face or another part? Its quite satisfying to complete it to a functioning ,working gun that is decently accurate! LOL Good video bro thanks! Oh P.S. let me know if you had these all mailed to your door and if so how? lol

I really like the 1943 Spanish Mauser

Consider yourself extremely luck with those last two rifles. Hunters Lodge has a hard earned reputation going back many, many years for selling complete garbage. I’m amazed with the two Spanish Mauser but would never take that gamble unless I lived down the street from them.....

My 303 looked just like that out of a house fire. Lots of smoke damage and baked on grease

Cheer up , if you chain them all together you'll have an emergency boat anchor...

I'm in pa .just bought 7mm mag and 30.06 both together. 300.00 bucks. Deals are out there if u hunt for them

What’s the maker on the No4? I’m thinking it’s one of the Ethiopian imports or an Indian import. If it’s a POF one you might’ve done well despite the rough condition.

C&Rsenal has a semi-recent video about the M1916. The black paint isn't mentioned, though, and it's the first I've ever seen of it.

In 1954 Spain had to Chamber Rifles in the 7.62 Cartridge to gain entry into N.A.T.O. . Not chambered to.308 here. It was done in Spain.

The good ole' days are over. Just because these are guns doesn't mean they aren't trash.

JG has drill rifles in the enfield family for 125 great place for parts

Well, you got the package. Now we see what was recieved? You did give fair warning, in previous video. Time will tell? Well, we know now. Damn! I am not impressed. I doubt, you will order from them again. Nice pieces, however, worth cost. Addition to shipping cost, definately, A , hard sell. Peace from Ky. Brother, John.

I would be ashamed to sell that kind of stuff to anybody In that condition.

LOL, sometimes I type in Hunters Lodge on RU-vid and watch the show

as a glutton for abuse i just order an adrian helmet from hunter's lodge it was very cheap so i do not expect much (or anything!)

BTW did you determine the manufacturer of the No4 Mk1 yet? because it almost looks like a Early Savage due to the sight and the lack of stampings on the right side wrist piece.

LOL I think I'd rather have Covid than any of those rifles!

Anyone can ship a rifle or shotgun USPS. Anyone. As a dealer we have a form that the post office uses to ship handguns. Postal employees don't know a whole lot about anything. I had to tell a 20 year postal employee why i was using the form. I also have a box here that the form THEY KEEP is taped to the outside. It is supposed to be against postal regulations to ship ammo through the post office. I have received a lot.